Tho big “take away” from this video (for me) . Is the guy drilling through the masonry with the flexi dryer vent tube over the drill bit and vacuum cleaner hooked up to it . 👍 pretty slick.
I went just the opposite. My fireplace had gas and fake logs, had a wood burning stove insert professionally installed which included a stainless steel chimney liner. It has a closed glass door, and is very efficient, unlike a traditional open fireplace. Burn approximately a face cord of seasoned hardwood each season. The insert has an electric fan with a thermostat, when operating, it heats the entire house and the house gas furnace literally never turns on. Natural gas in the Chicagoland area doubled in price two years in a row, and the supplier is requesting another rate hike. Love burning oak and cherry...
@@glxxyz what does video games have to do with anything? I grew up with wood as a main heat source and my cabin currently uses wood as a main heat source. Calling it 'free' heat isn't true.
I have a an older gas insert that has a manual switch,and a pilot light,but more convenient than when it was wood. Turn it off or on. Thanks for the video.
@trsmith2442 I agree. I saw recently that they seem to only be posting them on their website. Kind of annoying because I like just scrolling through youtube and seeing a new video, not having to go to yet another site to see if a new episode is posted
I love these type of fireplaces , I prefer the concentric vented type units with the power pile system, but this one is not bad. Just an FYI , Richard and the local code authority should know better ( the gas shut off valve has to be in the same room with the appliance and readily accessible). Next time don’t be lazy and install the floor valve.
I have one of these, and the surround was missing when I bought the house. I made my own out of sheet metal and painted it black with VHT Flameproof. But I didn't think to screw it to the box. It was just sitting there. I'm going to do that now.
My fireplace flue connects about 7 or 8 feet above the fireplace in which my gas furnace connects to at a Y junction basically. Can I still use this in it?
Your non-condensing furnace should not be venting thru a masonry chimney, but thru a chimney liner to a roof cap. If there is enough room for a second cap and additional intake/exhaust liners you should be fine. (Need room for 3 liners and 2 caps).
@@brianf714 intake/exhaust are segregated by metal panels inside the fireplace insert and are also seperate inside the chimney cap. Sealed combustion behind glass of insert has fresh air supplied from the inlet at the bottom of roof cap thru the liner into a channel inside the insert to an area below the burners. The combustion gasses rise thru the other chimney liner and out the top of the roof cap. A draft establishes and there's no issue. Unless a bird makes a nest up there, then the flames "ghost" or begin to lift off the burners.
My parents burned wood their whole lives. They are now in their late 70's and converted to gas. It's too much work for them to keep up with it. Thankfully, they live in Pennsylvania, so gas is a very affordable option.
@R50_J0 just how much is "excess" if none is falling down? Wild guess the house is from the 50s and we're looking at what moisture and the old soot has done to the original liner in 70 years. I don't see any black soot to speak of.
All that work for a largely inefficient heating system. Given that your country has extremes of cold in the northern states, it puzzles me why (a) You build houses from wood, which is a terrible insulator and (b) Why you use open fireplaces/oil heaters/gas heaters which can be dangerous. In my country (Australia) we use ducted gas heating which is way more energy efficient, and won't burn your house down, though we build houses out of brick, not wood. No chimney requirement either.
The vast majority of modern homes in the US use a gas furnace that's ducted throughout the house and if it's needed the simply add a cooling coil and outside unit. That's how it was for 50 years. Now. More and more homes are including a heat pump instead of the gas furnace. That seems to be the most efficient way to heat a Home now. And some colder climates. They may still continue to leave the gas furnace in there, but it's it acts as a backup on the cold days when the heat pump can't keep up. I know they say some of the newer heat pumps are good too below zero so I suspect that will go away. It's time progresses. All heat pumps have a resistance heating strip somewhere in the ducting as a backup just in case. That way all you have to have is your blower motor and that running. We build our homes out of wood primarily because it's very readily available And the most cost-effective way of constructing a house. Part of that is just due to the mammoth scale of the home construction industry in this country. I live in the state of Georgia which has 156 counties and in the last 10 years we have added about a dozen very large subdivisions. So that's one out of 150 counties in one out of 50 states and we built at least 3,000 homes in one year.
That insert looks Butt Ugly, a huge black panel with a squatty firebox. Totally ruined the aesthetics and appearance of the fireplace. Should have gotten one of those fake electric log and grate heat blower units.
Tho big “take away” from this video (for me) . Is the guy drilling through the masonry with the flexi dryer vent tube over the drill bit and vacuum cleaner hooked up to it . 👍 pretty slick.
Yup it's an osha requirement on all jobsites now too.
I went just the opposite. My fireplace had gas and fake logs, had a wood burning stove insert professionally installed which included a stainless steel chimney liner. It has a closed glass door, and is very efficient, unlike a traditional open fireplace. Burn approximately a face cord of seasoned hardwood each season. The insert has an electric fan with a thermostat, when operating, it heats the entire house and the house gas furnace literally never turns on. Natural gas in the Chicagoland area doubled in price two years in a row, and the supplier is requesting another rate hike. Love burning oak and cherry...
Love this! What stove did you end up purchasing. Looking to do the same. Thanks
@@glxxyz I wouldn't exactly say free... You're still paying for it somehow.
@@jackww839 The brand is LOPI, knowing what I know now, I'd definitely purchase it again.
@@glxxyz it's more than a few days. Plus when you're burning you have to constantly tend to the stove.
@@glxxyz what does video games have to do with anything? I grew up with wood as a main heat source and my cabin currently uses wood as a main heat source. Calling it 'free' heat isn't true.
Direct vent inserts the best. No combustion in the home keeping clean air. No wasted heat.Easy maintenance
This looks really great!
Lovely. Looks nice.
I have a an older gas insert that has a manual switch,and a pilot light,but more convenient than when it was wood. Turn it off or on.
Thanks for the video.
I hate how much space is lost of the original opening. I wish there was a better solution! I love This Old House!
Bring back the full regular episodes!
@trsmith2442 I agree. I saw recently that they seem to only be posting them on their website. Kind of annoying because I like just scrolling through youtube and seeing a new video, not having to go to yet another site to see if a new episode is posted
Preferably without Kevin.
@@akitas8165 kevin is a good host. stop hating
I love these type of fireplaces , I prefer the concentric vented type units with the power pile system, but this one is not bad. Just an FYI , Richard and the local code authority should know better ( the gas shut off valve has to be in the same room with the appliance and readily accessible). Next time don’t be lazy and install the floor valve.
nice video. somehow very calming
I have one of these, and the surround was missing when I bought the house. I made my own out of sheet metal and painted it black with VHT Flameproof. But I didn't think to screw it to the box. It was just sitting there. I'm going to do that now.
Perfect 👌 gas
Wow This Old House is finally in 4K HD!! Man, you guys look old. 😋😂 Love you guys!!
Yeah we did the opposite and pulled out the retrofit the previous owners did. I need to fix the bricks they drilled through to put it in.
You use all iron pipe except for that ProPress tee?
How do you put a heat pump radiator in the chimney to capture waste heat?
Excellent brand choice with Heat N Glo.
I used to sell them 25 years ago I knew exactly what brand it was before they showed it 😊
Hi Les!
"...no visible flames..."
That must be misspeaking and he meant no visible smoke. It's ethanol that has no visible flames and I'm not aware of anybody heating that way.
I have a cast iron wood burner that I really like. Is it possible to put gas logs in it safely? Thank you!
They should be able to look up fireplace supply store wherever you're at and give them a call.
Lovely house but that television placement was awful!
1:07 Can you imagine eating and facing a wall that close to you at the dining table.
I think some furniture arrangement happened just for the shoot.
“It’s all his wife” and she’s not too practical apparently, see also the tiny insert in the big opening, and the TV above the fireplace.
Doesn't anyone close their doors anymore?
My fireplace flue connects about 7 or 8 feet above the fireplace in which my gas furnace connects to at a Y junction basically. Can I still use this in it?
Your non-condensing furnace should not be venting thru a masonry chimney, but thru a chimney liner to a roof cap. If there is enough room for a second cap and additional intake/exhaust liners you should be fine. (Need room for 3 liners and 2 caps).
I’m confused… how can the exhaust and intake be so close to each other?
They should not be.
Exhaust is higher than the intake. It rises away. Also, the exhaust will come out as a column of air. The intake will come from all around.
@@brianf714 intake/exhaust are segregated by metal panels inside the fireplace insert and are also seperate inside the chimney cap. Sealed combustion behind glass of insert has fresh air supplied from the inlet at the bottom of roof cap thru the liner into a channel inside the insert to an area below the burners. The combustion gasses rise thru the other chimney liner and out the top of the roof cap. A draft establishes and there's no issue. Unless a bird makes a nest up there, then the flames "ghost" or begin to lift off the burners.
6:04 - Umm, should've you guys have swept the chimney flue first?😔
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Very nice wow , but what does it cost all that labor. I’m thinking of doing that.
I've never been this early. Glad to see TOH going strong!
I recognized the new gas insert’s remote control, looks like a Heat & Glow branded product. Am I correct?
6:50
Who wrote the TOH theme song?
My parents burned wood their whole lives. They are now in their late 70's and converted to gas. It's too much work for them to keep up with it. Thankfully, they live in Pennsylvania, so gas is a very affordable option.
Richard, your first two statements are wrong. There are other reasons to switch to a gas insert, but those aren't them.
In Chicago, permits are just a form of revenue. Rarely do inspectors actually "inspect."
Then don’t get them.. wink wink
Too short. The height should have been 6” more. It looks out of place
That insert is a good size.
I don't see any reason they couldn't set the unit up on some blocks, as long as there's room to make the connections.
@ its too small for that huge opening. I would have paid to maybe modify the opening and tile around it with a nice shaker style fireplace kit
@@Nafpaktos-Florida looks perfect to me.
Natural gas yes…propane..no
Why would you put such a small gas insert in a large opening? Wasted opportunity.
That insert is a really good size.
Should have spent the $ got rid of that 80% steam boiler. Left the fireplace alone.
Kinda would have been nice to clean the chimney first, but that’s just me.
Filthy house
the owner said he had the chimney cleaned
@ but when the flexible metal pipes are threaded through the chimney, there appears to be excessive creosote accumulation.
@R50_J0 just how much is "excess" if none is falling down? Wild guess the house is from the 50s and we're looking at what moisture and the old soot has done to the original liner in 70 years. I don't see any black soot to speak of.
@@rupe53 Look at 6:03 a couple of times.
That wood burning fireplace was worthless.
So was its replacement.
Now they can be warm while watching TOH on the ceiling mounted TV.
Should alway stick with wood fuel
Nope, only as a last resort
They'll call ya to come cut and split the wood and clean and service the chimney.
Watch the video backwards to learn how to convert a gas fireplace to wood.
Why convert to gas when you have a perfectly fine wood fireplace?
Thank you! The show should be about converting a gas fireplace to a wood fireplace 🤦🏼♂️
because that guy is the "Happy wife happy life" type...
As a firefighter son, he did a good way. Wood is good, but it’s not reliable. You have to go chop it. Gas is just cleaner no smoke no smell
That wood fireplace is totally inefficient and if there’s a power outage the gas fireplace can keep the house warmer especially if there’s a generator
Must have skipped ahead for the full explanation? 1:08 for your reference.
All that work for a largely inefficient heating system. Given that your country has extremes of cold in the northern states, it puzzles me why (a) You build houses from wood, which is a terrible insulator and (b) Why you use open fireplaces/oil heaters/gas heaters which can be dangerous.
In my country (Australia) we use ducted gas heating which is way more energy efficient, and won't burn your house down, though we build houses out of brick, not wood. No chimney requirement either.
The vast majority of modern homes in the US use a gas furnace that's ducted throughout the house and if it's needed the simply add a cooling coil and outside unit. That's how it was for 50 years. Now. More and more homes are including a heat pump instead of the gas furnace. That seems to be the most efficient way to heat a Home now. And some colder climates. They may still continue to leave the gas furnace in there, but it's it acts as a backup on the cold days when the heat pump can't keep up. I know they say some of the newer heat pumps are good too below zero so I suspect that will go away. It's time progresses. All heat pumps have a resistance heating strip somewhere in the ducting as a backup just in case. That way all you have to have is your blower motor and that running.
We build our homes out of wood primarily because it's very readily available And the most cost-effective way of constructing a house.
Part of that is just due to the mammoth scale of the home construction industry in this country. I live in the state of Georgia which has 156 counties and in the last 10 years we have added about a dozen very large subdivisions. So that's one out of 150 counties in one out of 50 states and we built at least 3,000 homes in one year.
That insert looks Butt Ugly, a huge black panel with a squatty firebox. Totally ruined the aesthetics and appearance of the fireplace. Should have gotten one of those fake
electric log and grate heat blower units.
Wood is a pain in the butt
It needs more fake ash to look more realistic.
Its a shame to destroy a wood fireplace
Nothing was destroyed..they improved on the Model T also Forrest.
@XX-166 that's terrible. Leave the model T alone. It's an icon.
@ so was the development of the magnum condom with the reservoir tip.
@@ScreamingEagle-xl3twthat's why we all drive them still to this day.
And why you used a typewriter and the pony express to send in your comment.
@@jasonsgroovemachine the good ole days
So you’re going to ruin a historic fireplace smh
put in a wood insert
Nothing historic about that fireplace.
Wood is way cheaper than gas.
At least with wood it’s renewable and maybe even using trees that have fallen over. Gas fireplaces are silly and very wasteful
Should have converted to WOOD burning insert
And have the same inefficiency…NEGATIVE
Hate when people ruin old houses
TV too high
Why would u want to do that just so u can blow up your house. All gas should be banned.
Yeah, much better to burn it down with a wood fireplace.
@@akitas8165 team creasote! Chant with me: chim-ney fire! chim-ney fire!...
How to convert a wood fireplace to gas.
“This is not a DIY project.” So, hire someone. Got it. 😂
Yea you need at least 2 other professionals, Permits, And a lot of cash
fixmyproperty AI fixes this (AI Home Repairs). Convert Wood Fireplace to Gas
@ThisOldHouse are you guys available to help repair my gutter in Long Island?
always remember to keep the gas can outside if you have a gas fireplace, be safe people
Stop putting TVs over fireplaces !