I had crazy social anxiety in 2007 and bought wow on a whim. The escape and joy this game brought me was like nothing I've ever experienced before. It will always hold a special place in my heart
WoW is always the game that makes me sad every time I think about it. I met so many friends back in TBC and Wrath, and I can even still remember their character names and specs, and even their personal story IRL. Now I don't know where are they and how is their life doing.. FeelsBadMan
ctrlsoul i know exactly how you feel man....like truly lol you took the words from me. I have actually talked to two of them via battlenet but my i lost contact with best wow bud. Rip neoshaman -Onic from thrall server
I met one of my best friends on wow over 12 years ago. And literally opposite sides of the US. (Washington state /FL) next month he’s flying out to be a groomsman in my wedding kept in touch with him via Facebook and phone very consistently since 2007. He was a feral dps.
Wow was for a lot of us where we met our friends and hung out. After school we all moved further away and wow was our chill time.. I logged back in since wotlk last year and I got goosebumps all over my body seeing my character again.
I quit after wrath, the game for me ended there, Arthas dead and scourge finished i finished. I was the main tank for my guild and we played from release day right up until our Lich King kill. We where all great friends and every few months (now years) we all have a quick chat. When classic was announced we all starting chatting again. Mate thank you so much for this.
nox everything was just made up nothing felt right at all I really really miss that world of Warcraft, the story ended there. Now it feels like another author has taken on the challenge but doesn’t understand the fans or community.
Derp Inshmurtz mop was actually pretty fun imo, though i may be biased as a monk main. I enjoyed interacting with a race that up until that point was shrouded in mists and secluded from the rest of the world with underlying cause of what war can effect even to people who aren’t even involved. It’s tied for me to wotlk and legion for favorite iteration of the game. I still enjoy the game to this day.
Finally after years I got back into retail baby steps but currently playing a vulpera monk and loving the story. But alas if still cannot compare to the old days
Still remember some kids selling magazine subscriptions for their High School senior trip. I bought some and in one magazine that came was a disc with the 20 level intro to WoW. I, a non-gamer for the prior 15 years, put it in my computer and was hooked. If not for that subscription I'm confident I would never have played it. Strange how things happen. Gave it up after six years, but occasionally still feel the pull of Azeroth. I've briefly tried other games, but none could capture that feeling of exploration and discovery. I can still recall the sights and sounds of Elwynn Forest as I started exploring. Still something magical about it.
I can still feel it, after so many years I left world of worldcraft i still remember these awesome feelings that are hard to compare to anything else.I wonder now if people that explored Americas felt the same.
My theory is and remains that the secret behind WoW's success is the social aspect - both when you wanted to engage in it but also when you didn't. WoW did a tremendous amount of work on this area. Looking at the innovations it brought, it wasn't just "more casual" - rather it was a set of very carefully made changes to get you to meet others and to keep you engaged with them. The point of not losing XP when you die is so you don't get afraid of playing with others who aren't as good as you. The worst that can happen is you sit out for a little bit. The point of rested XP was to make sure you could play a little less than some of your friends and still catch up, while still keeping that friend ahead in XP to make his accomplishment mean something. The point of being able to respec characters was so that you didn't have to level from scratch again if you got something wrong (and not, as people later wanted, to constantly respec your character, removing its uniqueness in the process) The point of the 250 hour levelling grind was to keep people who just wanted to play by themselves casually content for months and months, while more hardcore players could get through it faster with dungeons and just plain playing more. The point of the colossal and hugely varied environment and the way the mountains were shaped was to keep some places remote for people who preferred to solo alone, while keeping other places central and full of people. (see for example Desolace vs. Tanaris. Both full of quests, but Desolace is much more remote) This is something Blizzard never replicated again, for some reason. And so on. I think LFG/LFR profoundly damaged that part of the game, and I think the biggest part people look forward to when playing vanilla is just meeting people and shittalking in The Barrens and all that stuff, because it really is a good time.
I really wish I had listened to a friend of mine who was constantly nagging me about playing WoW but I just kept evading the topic like the stubborn mule I was. Now I'm stuck with watching these videos and feeling some weird fake nostalgia for a game I've never experienced in its best state, hoping that Classic will give me just a taste of that when it launches.
i think that the essence of the game itself wasnt attach to the vanilla or any xpacs, the first time u play a mmorpg as wow on any of their xpacs u will experience this essence, any wow player would know what is this essence i mean.
You mean you feel bad for yourself that you wasted so much time on this game, but feel better momentarily by saying that you feel sorry for people who didn’t waste their time on the game.
Started playing on July 2006 13th birthday just resubed after a year off on my 25th bday. The game definitely has legs that much is true for me atleast and I love games always have and play alot of them. Wows just a fun game you get bored do other shit and sometimes you come back
My wife and I started playing wow together in Nov 2007. We still play today. We've taken a few extended breaks here and there, but we never flat out quit, and I don't think we will until the servers go offline.
Similar here - my then boyfriend got me a copy of the game to join him in 2006, we are still together and now married and still play together, lots of good memories in that game for us
This literally made me cry becauee this is too sweet. Something i've dreamed of ever since i started playing, having an so to play with. I hope you and your wife are doing great and still enjoy playing, even though the game has declined in it's quality.
What made Vanilla special for me was mostly the immersion. I still remember my first characters in the game, and how mesmerised I was after seeing the starting zones, and major cities. The atmosphere, visuals, and the music was amazing. Levelling was tough, and took a lot of time; so even the most asocial players made some friends. I've spent so much time in some zones that I have memorised them in detail. Something I cannot say about retail WoW, in which you can easily finish a zone in a couple of hours. I used to play in an RP realm, and I remember that RP wasn't just limited to certain hotspots in the world, but rather you could RP with other players all the time in every zone while levelling. It was always nice to save a player overwhelmed by mobs, and receive a formal knightly response. I have spent so much time adventuring; in the end, the game became a world, and my character became his own person. The game also used to give you this real sense of danger, which I felt strongly especially in more sinister zones like Duskwood or Burning Steppes. I wouldn't say retail WoW is a bad game really. But it isn't a groundbreaking MMO anymore. It doesn't produce or even try to produce immersion. Instead, it's just another game in which we endlessly try to get better gear to produce higher numbers for damage or healing. I miss being a broke adventurer putting himself in danger to get some filthy pants from the local innkeeper or something. Hope to share those adventures with you guys, and see you in Azeroth!
My most vivid memory from vanilla was pugging a zf. Didn't have much perspective on getting a group together then and I was an undead rogue, so I went to org and spammed for people to join until I found 4 others. Best memory was all of us traveling from org together to get there and how epic the gauntlet was for the first time back then, then fighting ghaz.
in vanilla and BC I made friendships that still hold on to this day. No comparison to everything that came after BC. I'll definitely give classic a try
What made WoW special was the "it's a big world out there" feeling. That feeling's long gone and not even vanilla private servers can fully capture that because people know every detail of that iteration of WoW - there's no mystery. Unfortunately, we probably won't ever experience something like that again because the gaming populace isn't looking for that kind of fulfillment anymore. All they care about is instant gratification.
Nesano I'm hoping that Blizzard will come out with a new world for us to begin with again. maybe Wow themed, but a different dimension where everything is new and fresh again. I agree with you about the world feeling small. It would take an entire retake of the game to accomplish that. IMO
The alternate reality thing is something I've fantasized about in many cases throughout my gaming life. It's probably something with a lot of money-making viability.
"All they care about is instant gratification" which is exaclty whats going to lead to a rebirth of this game. Lol. Warcraft is like fashion 😂 stuff always comes back around.
In my opinion WoW was so interesting back in 04/05 because of the lvl phase and the huge amount of players you were able to see questing and being in the main cities .. You knew many people by their nicknames and the "chat" was the "tool" to search for grp quest or dungeons.. you were forced to be interactive and there wasnt anything like "lvl boost" and if you seen somebody with lvl 60 and epic gear, you knew he was insane ... Epic still was EPIC ... now you get it everytime... Im looking forward to the classic re-release in 19/20
@ChrisCK Yea not, classic will be classic, the only failure will be the current wow. Its true that classic will not have anywhere near the numbers it did originally, but its not about the numbers its about the quality of players. Currently the game is filled with spoiled little cunts that want shit handed to them for minimum time invested and everyone is super antisocial. In classic your ass better become social real quick or you will forever stay having nothing but greens on your toon.
@@Rudizel Gotta agree with you man. I played back in Wrath for a few weeks which is not much but it happened and I saw how people actually enjoyed the game. I really didn't get to play the game for real until around Legion which is actually extremely late in the games life spam. I also got to play in the Classic Stress Test Servers and I would have to say this. I had more fun in the few days I played Classic in that stress test. Than any other time I ever played during Legion/BFA and that says something. So Classic won't fail but I don't see it being as huge as it was back in the day. But know that if you see a Pally called MaxVegas on that game. Than you will know its me and I will most likely never touch the latest version. Classic will most likely be my main version of the game as long as I keep finding joy in it.
@ChrisCK I disagree. Many of Classic's players are late comers/newcomers in the WoW genre and will still enjoy playing the original game that they missed out on. Also, the same features that made WoW so great will be back and players will still be able to have that infamous gaming addiction. Even knowing everything there is to know about the game still won't stop someone from having fun playing it. The community and social aspect is what made the game so great, not to mention it was actually a challenge and engaged the player immensely. Add to the fact content will be slowly released over time, I believe we will see plenty of life from classic.
I have been asked to try WoW by numerous friends over the years, and my answer has always been "no". They would then usually say that they think I'd love it, to which I'd reply "that's what I'm afraid of".
i played WoW for about 6 years. Starting with its first release in Europe. To me Classic, BC and Northend were the perfect set, a complete story, from start to end. Beautiful design, great story telling, and adventures to do for every type of gamer. I loved it, still remember the big awe when I first time entered Stormwind as a tiny human warlock; I remember how I did endless quests to get another demon pet - but being totally proud in the end to have achieved it. I remember endless PVP sessions in Alterac, exciting like a good suspense movie. I found (real life) friends, love and adventures. Many places in WoW I remember just as I had lived there. When I listen to the soundtrack, I still get very emotional. It was a great time. And I don't regret it. Cataclysm destroyed WoW to me, not only as they destroyed many of my old favorite spots in the game. Pandaria looks truly beautiful, but at that time, to me WoW lost its old spirit already long time. Everything became too easy, too fast, gathering XP the fastest way as the only goal. No more travelling (I will always remember the time when we waited for the next ship and had a chat), no more experiencing this great artificial world. You beam from A to B, rush through the instance with no efforts needed and so on. You get your package of XP and stuff for character number 6. Buy everything you need instantly. It became mechanical. Byebye WoW, it has been a great time!
I have always loved waiting for a ship 💕. Even when no one was around and I was playing super late at night it felt very “real”. Like waiting for a bus late at night lol.
What's so entertaining about this video, it's dismissive nature to other games or its inaccuracy? Also he just repeats everything what he already told in other vids. My favorite part is where he calls Age of Conan the WOW killer and absolutely refuse to mention Lineage 2 or any other Korean style MMORPG which were free to play and probably had comparibale player base to WOW.
The social interactions with people were what made WoW special. The introduction of new systems (dungeon finder, garrison, phasing/realmhop/flying mounts etc.) slowly ate up what was left of the early experience. I defenitely felt like the people I met and played with became more anonymous and alien with every expansion. Nowadays you just finish worldquests with random people that you will probably never ever see again in your WoW lifetime. Back then beating a challenging task together could forge friendships for life.
Its not the same anymore. There is no social connection anymore nor do you even have the desire to. Back in the days, you know everyone who played on your server like your own neighborhood. You say hi to people when you bump into each other in ironforge.
the oposite is what made me leave the game that is ppl being less social the community changed feeling hollow game playing. with out the fun interactions the game isnt fun that simple. my account also got hacked and turned into a gold mining char for 6 months before i decided to try again 12 - 18 months down the track. everything almost gone and blizzard wldnt help with my hacked burnt out character. Almost everything was gone including some high lvl crafts. Crazy hey
The game became so easy it was no longer necessary to discuss fights or work as a team. I tanked a whole instance without anyone saying a single word. All the players cared about was the loot.
I dont think classic will be as popular as people think it will be, blizzard may see a slight temporary resurgence of people looking for nostalgia. But most like me are just burnt out on the game.
@@candlestyx8517 it's not just nostalgia though. A solid playerbase has been on private servers for the past 6 or more years. The game is just good and it will bring back a large population. Probably not what it was, but definitely a worthwhile investment for blizzard
Not really. WOTLK saw the peak of one of the biggest community cancers that have ever graced the game known as Gearscore - which is still a flamboyant ass-cancer problem today on basically all private servers, too. Then you have the Dungeon Finding system. They both took a pretty big, hunky shit on the social aspect of the game with only WOD later topping it with SP phone game garrisons.
@@Coecoo yeah it is so understated how much players themselves ruined the game. Word of mouth and social interaction used to be the metric by which players were judged, but as the game grew more groups and guilds wanted to clear content, leading to the desire for faster and more efficient ways to judge players. Achievements became a metric instead of a trophy, gearscore was a necessary hidden system instead of the now built-in iLvl system.
idk about the community, the graphics, the combat, the story and the freedom to explore got me hooked from minute 1. didn't really interact with anyone outside of my circle of friends who had brought me there.
@@lancejohnson3278 FPS scene is pure cancer too because of that. Back then you had to find a clan/ team or search for pugs in IRC chat. Now it's only a few clicks to get mixed with 4-5 dickheads without any communication. Like you say, people were judged by that and more often then not left alone.
Well I don't know what the forum specifically entails, I just recall frost shock being a frustrating ability to play against as shamans could use it to kite you along with slowing totems. What I found humorous was the fact there's a lengthy forum and imagining the salt that would be induced in that discussion.
Kerem Kurt yeah Basicly people were pissed about it because the duration of the slow effect was equal to the cooldown of frost shock so they could perma slow you in arena. And very specc Ofc could use it so everybody got pissed especially in 2v2 where it had way more impact because almost everybody ran a dps healer comp . I played an heal sham in arena above 2,2k and I gotta say it was good but not op. U def. couldn’t use it on CD because it drained your mana a lot and other classes had lots of tools to get to you.
The thing with WoWs history is that at the time of its release it was something new and massive. Also one thing to point out is that WoWs history came from the 3 previous strategy games blizzard made, which were a huge success themselves. WoW gave you the opportunity to "enter" the strategy games you played and loved. WoWs community has aged. I remember when i first entered WoW i was like 12-13 years old. My only responsibiliy was school, so i had a huge amount of time to invest. Many people follow a same story as mine. I remember me playing WoW with friends and raiding with them. Now, 14 years later most of the initial players like me, have aged. I am 25 now, with a lot more responsibilities and with other interests. Do i still play WoW? yes. But i am a very casual player. Most of my friends quit wow years ago with some of them playing sparsely . I think its not that the expansions suck (except Draenor ). Its more like that the initial player base, which was 90s kids, have grown up and can no longer invest a lot of time in the game. New players come, but most of them have not played the initial games, the strategy games, and they cannot feel the hype of "joining" a huge world. That goes also for the 2000s kids. This is the reason a lot of people play and quit. Because they see wow just like another mmo, and not as a game that started in a small world (strategy games) and evolved into a huge world (WoW)
Yeah I would also agree with what you said. I watched my big bro play Warcraft 2/3 when I was really little. when i got the chance to play wow at age 11 or 12(vanilla/bc)...nothing could compare...it was like writing my own story lol!!!
Spooch Snoogens it's less about the commentator and more about the content of the video that he focuses on, really. I'd rather have him be monotone than someone who has focused on their commentating skills, making the quality of the content in the video worse.
Well rumours says that him and his guild made a fake pull and put it on video to get attention and should have been confirmed by Leeroy himself. As i said its rumours. But if thats the truth i think lots of the players i have seen in the game in the past should get famouse!
The reduction from 40 man to 25 and 10 man raids happened in Tbc, not in warth, you got that wrong sir. Anyway a great video, a solid 43 mins of entertainment Keep up with the good work
Yeah not sure why I said that...huge brain fart. Thanks for pointing that out - I'll pin your comment so people know. Edit: That was bothering me so much I went ahead and edited that line out. You may notice an awkward skip at 27:25, but I think it's better than having that error!
TBC's first raid was Kara, which was 10-man only. However, all TBC raids after were 25-man only, including Sunwell Plateau. Wrath introduced the option to do each raid as a 10 or 25-man group, starting with the very first Wrath raid, Naxx 2.0.
This vid feels like a fucking recap of my life. I've been here since dec 2004. I was 14 at the time. I'm 29 now. I've never stop playing apart from a 6month break during warlords of dranor. Thank you for the vid!
Figgyislyfee G it's not the same. Back then collecting epic 1 mount period took more time and skill than grinding old raids for mount drops like today. It was simply different.
I started playing when WotLK was around and that expansion still holds some of my dearest childhood memories. Wintergrasp song still brings a tear to my eyes
I always wanted to ask you. One of the most *iconic* themes of Wrath, was the “Riplash” soundtrack in Borean Tundra...common sense, right? But then, why the hell did they not include it in the Official Wrath soundtrack? I mean they even had a Borean Tundra track in the deluxe...BUT NO RIPLASH?! What the hell.
I think it's just a matter of space, there are so many music files in every expansion so they can only include a really tiny part of the music in the official soundtracks. Unfortunately your favorite was not selected even though it's great music.
This video makes me feel really emotional and nostalgia! I live in Turkey so had to play on EU servers, so since the game released in 2005 for Europe that means I was 12 years old, when I have created my first character in the world of Azeroth! He was a dwarf hunter whose name was Questimma in "RP" Argent Down server. There is a funny, childish and innocent story behind the name. One of my friends have learned the game from his brother and showed me, meanwhile I was playing my first mmorpg, or for that game you can just say a mmo actually, Knight Online! And my friend came to me, was very exited, and told, "hey do you know there is a game called World of Warcraft, where you can actually JUMP!" And i was really impressed by that because there was no jumping in Knight Online. And my friend logged in his account and enter the game with his dwarf hunter, whose name was Immaquest, so you see why my character name was Questimma, I mean come on I was 12 years old, and when I saw the WOW for the first time! My little mind was blowed away from my little fucking head fellas! I was like OMFG! Not only the jumping, you could even fly through an open enormous huge map and watch the fantastic view beneath you on a god damn gryphon! That was the best thing I have ever seen so far in my 12 years life! And I had to buy that game asap! So I did it of course and since that time I played every single expansion in the game, but, the classic wow! Man that game was a legend for me and for many people! I cannot even describe how I felt, how I was excited! That was a kind of a feeling that you cannot describe you can only live! I feel really really lucky that I had the chance to play classic wow during its released date! This game was a legend and it will always be! Dude you cannot imagine those graphs in that period of time the game released, how they were epic! And the obscurity in the game! The danger! It was a absolute great adventure! The music of the end of the video! This was a great video, which leave me in tears and made me wrote this comment here at 4:44 am! Thank you and love you! Great job!
The amount of work put into this presentation is just simply unbelievable. Thank you for this. I can’t even imagine all of the work that went into this.
This, this is pure gold MadSeason. You should be awarded for this beautiful bit of cinematic genius. 43 minutes and I was captivated all the way to the end. As if I didn't respect you enough as a content creator and player, you set the bar even higher. Keep it up man.
Personally, I consider myself a massive WoW player, but I never much cared about the end content. For me it’s about having alts (altoholic) and leveling. However, the levelling is the thing that they changed the most. They made it not easy, but a better word would be “straight forward”. In vanilla WoW you can be pretty creative with your approach to leveling and even your character build. Nowadays you have zero upgrades to gear til max level due to Heirlooms and really there is no free space to be creative with your character build and stats. If you fuck around with it in dungeons you get kicked.
Ironically if you’re a bad player in modern they’ll just kick you from the instance, but in Vanilla if you were a bad player people taught you how to play because it would be more of a hassle to find another tank/healer.
I never got the chance to play Vanilla WoW I was only 5 years old in 2004, I am really hoping at least some of what was experienced back then can be experienced soon. It can't ever be the same but if I could get just a glimpse, it would be worth a sub to me. @@loreaver3882
Fam, this video is so incredibly strong. I, similarly to some number of your followers, was not convinced by your particular style for a style, but I find myself seeking your detail of the game over its entire existence. By now, your style is a rare luxury to behold. I'm back in the game after 7 years off (since launch) and your quality intel is that which I seek.
I love your channel, it's very refreshing how chill you are when talking. Some other youtubers are too energetic to listen to while trying to wind down at night.
@@DagothDaddy I think I was already a few months into it at that point haha, so the addiction was set in. My brother gave me all sorts of shit since we watched every new episode when it aired back then. I sure miss those days sometimes.
What made it great is hard to explain. What it has lost over the years though, is the sense of greatness the world and game as whole had. That fact that leveling, and gaining gear/reputation was so hard and required so much time back then, made everything seem grand. In the endgame, me and my friends knew that some raids, and the best gear was something we weren't able to get our hands on. But that was okay! It made it seem grand! We would recognise players from the best guilds cos of their high tier gear and just watch in awe.. Blizzards quest to make everything accessible for every player ruined the game imo. Such a shame.
Attack of the The Eye Creatures the world WAS fun without needing to raid. Dungeons were enough to satisfy the majority of players because getting a group together was a time investment that made the run rewarding. You also had progression guilds to do earlier raids to gear for the newest raid. Any casual could have made it to all the content IF he invested the time. Now there is no hardcore group left because every casual is given the best gear for free, mobile gaming shit is more prevalent than ever and sub numbers have massively fallen. Tl;dr: yeah, fuck filthy casuals, catering to them drove away the hardcore crowd and the majority of casuals themselves who hated what the game became as it changed to appease them. Sub numbers dont lie, people voted with their wallets.
yes, I feel this also! I started playing +- 1 year late that mop was released and at that time leveling was still kinda hard (it took me months to reach max level and many kicks and deaths lol). Plus there was the community, that was much more united than now. I remember going ICC and Ulduar with some people with my guild and getting lots of cozy nights with them, since I hadn't a good pc to play the end game (it laggeg even in the starter zone eras lol so sad) Now I played like 5 months of legion and 2 o bfa and since 2013-2014 I can't even find an active guild. The only players I play with are my brother and a friend of him that I barely know lol It just seems so lonely, I miss those times of Mop in which I didn't care about gearing and leveling like a crazy just to..... have access to more gear?
This is one of your best videos in my opinion. Not only do you explain the history of WOW in a clear and concise way but the music and the old screenshots make the video feel so cozy...
oh yes!!!! after watching this whole video I have to say BIG THANKS to MadSeason... a really nice documented trip down memory lane. I still love the game like I did way back in 2005 (EU release)... Long may the fun continue! FOR THE HORDE!!!!
You had me until "FOR THE HORDE!!!!" Seriously though, I have one maxed horde toon so I can experience their side of the story. I feel you don't get the whole experience unless you have both sides.
I remember my mom and my dad started playing it right as it came out in 2005 in europe (i was 2 yo at the time), they had many fights over who got to play and who had to take me to bed or play with me. Even after they split up when i was 6, they still shared this hobby. My dad stopped playing 4 years ago because he was too addicted and wanted to focus more on running, my mom is still playing from time to time, every now and then when she saw me playing or i asked her if she wanted to play with me. I started playing when i was around 9-10 so 8 years ago. I still remember my first time logging in and making a worgen frost dk on my moms account, i still play with that same character. This game grew on me since it was the only thing my parents shared. I stopped playing after legion for some time, and after the allegations (because i don't want to support an work environment like that at all) probably gonna start playing again when they resolved all issues. I just love this game and it will always have a special heart in my place. It was my escape from an abusive household ( 8-14), bullying and my declining mental health. I will always be thankful for all the times it helped me forget about all my problems, selfhatred and pain. It always brought me joy and hopefully will again in the future.
I started playing wow 6 years ago but Warcraft 3 had a bigger impact on my life. Although i love the world Blizzard has built, seeing how wow is now, with all the micro transactions and all the other bs Blizzard has done over the years, Its really hard to come back and play it, I think a lot of people have moved on by now and so have I. But I'm thankful that it helped me cope with life and I really hope that Blizzard does the right thing, until then I will be waiting.
Funny that you mentioned the South Park episode, because that's exactly what that got me into the game. My introduction to the franchise and was Warcraft 3, and I only tried it because some classmates in middle school recommended it, and that was in 2005. I didn't even consider playing WoW at the time. My laptop didn't have internet access, I couldn't use my parents' computer, and my parents would never have agreed to pay the subscription fee, so instead I stuck with the RTS genre. But then, in 2006, I bought an RTS called Rise of Legends, installed it, and was unable to play it because my old laptop's MBs were too low. I realized I needed a new computer, but due to financial reasons, I had to wait for over a year. During that wait, I saw the South Park episode, and since I was getting a new computer with internet access and everything, I made my decision. I would still play RTS games, like Rise of Legends that I couldn't play before, but within a few years, WoW became my favorite game, and here I am still playing.
what originally made this game for me was loving the original warcraft rts games, and stepping into a character in that world, and experiencing the world and story from a different perspective. The friction between factions, and the perspective of playing in each faction and race and how unique it can be i always thought was very cool. I have taken many breaks but this always keeps me coming back.
Such a well made video! Good job man. Warcraft will forever have a special place in my heart. Played warcraft 2 battle.net edition in 1999, went to warcraft 3 in 2003, played vanilla wow and BC from 2006-2007, and I recently went back to WoW Classic. Started it back in August and I haven't stopped yet. I am making sure I do everything I missed back when I played vanilla. It really is a special awesome experience and I personally think it's the greatest mmo of all time.
Thanks for the trip down memory lane. I played the beta and was a day 1 player but havent played in years. For me, the massive-ness (is that a word?) of the world was what drew me in. I couldn't wait to explore what was out there. In those days it was hard to level up to the next zone so there was a truly feeling of accomplishment.
Just listening to the music brings back so many memories. I miss the old days of wow. I quit after mists of pandaria because they changed too much (redesigned areas, dumbed down talent tree ect).
exactly my sentinment. I was introduce by a relationship to the game and we would quest together, so revisiting and hearing the music is like going back to our date places :D. Then we split and I met and married a player from it. Never thought I would actually hate it. But I do, now. My kid loves it though.
I watch your video since a long time now, and I don't think I've ever left you a comment, but I have to say this: the best wow videos that I watch are yours, your channel is the only one I have notification for, and everytime youtube tells me that there's a new video I stop whatever I'm doing and watch it, even if it's a new player video, who cares, it's made by you, and I know exactly that it will be amazing and I will learn something new anyway. Even my boyfriend, who doesn't like wow videos at all, enjoys watching yours with me. This one is amazing as always, I love the passion you put in every single video you make, and I'm going straight to your patreon page to support you finally, it's due time. Thank you for your work, you're amazing!
Thanks so much for the thoughtful message, Fox! It's always motivating to read nice comments like yours. There's lots to look forward to in WoW with BfA and Classic on the horizon...can't wait!!
And here we are in 2020, where Shadowlands broke records for release and subs. So no, wow is not dead. And it wont ever die until something TRULY better comes along
I started playing wow when I was six years old. I played it on my father's account, just so he could work, and I was happy. Then, after my mother and I moved away, I couldn't play anymore, but I still heard the elwynn forest, felt the arathi Highlands, felt the wish to play again. And now, as I am old enough, as I am able to pay for a monthly subscription, I play on private servers. I don't want to support blizzard anymore. But I still wanna play WoW. This game stuck with me. For years without playing it, without being able to watch videos about it (I didn't have a phone or PC back then) and with MoP being the last expansion I played, I still loved it. I still wanted to play. And I still do. Rest in Piece(s), Blizzard, long live WoW
I came over from Dark age of Camelot in 2005. I feel so fortunate to have been introduced to this genre of games in the late 90s. I had such a blast playing during the early days. I recently reactivated my account and am enjoying the experience all over again! Great video!
7.3.5 patch was the patch that fixed the shitty leveling, now its like old WoW leveling, questing is now actually worth it, and dungeons are as hard as they used to be, and reaching the max level in the fastest time possible is no longer needed, now you can just enjoy reading quests and going at your own pace like the old days. Thats what ive heard and seen about 7.3.5, i was able to try out 7.3.5 on a free week, boy the leveling was just like back in my good ol noob days, fun as hell and absolutely addicting, That was back in late BC and early to end WotLK. God i miss those days
I joined back in 2005 and Personally as the years went on I felt the speed at which the patches and advanced raids came out was far to quick, and the people who raced to get there caused the downfall with their need for more. as things went on getting LFR made it possible for myself a more casual player who also wanted to see that content, but cheapened the experience dramatically from what it was when i started and the first time my guild downed the second boss in Molten Core (having taken a month of attempts). That was an insanely exciting moment to me, compared to even just the first raid boss in Wrath which years later *new guild different faction ect* that we downed on our very first attempt as a casual raiding guild. Maybe the game was easier because experience, or mechanics, or anything. It definatly felt that the hardcore raiders above Rushing to beat the endgame content were pushing the way and removing entire aspects from the game that made it as fun as it was. I went into instances to help people with class questing, or even just to play a game with friends, in vanilla. But in later years if you werent pushing for endgame chances are you would never see it untill after the next expansion when you could go back and run it with 3-4 people instead of a whole raid.
Galiant I agree. Going to play Classic at a slower pace this go around. Don’t have to worry about speed or a expansion to replace raid gear with greens.
If I had to choose one game to play for the rest of my life this would be it, however I feel like something went missing once Cataclysm was introduced. I remember having this feeling of being overwhelmed when it came out, as the world that became very familiar and homey to me has been shattered. I guess that was the point, but it just didn't feel right. A lot of the items and mounts that you had to work hard for have also become way too accessible due to complaints from people who wanted instant gratification and did not want to invest significant time into the game. Although I was by no means an addict, I felt like you deserved to stand out in the game if you have chosen to invest the time in getting certain items and achieving a certain status, which made the game challenging and gave you something to aim for. But with the introduction of Cataclysm I felt like the essence of this was gone, and I quit playing. Still, I'll always remember 2004-2010 as the best gaming days of my life.
They say games are a waste of time and don't teach you anything, but WoW certainly did. I remember always being strapped for gold when I started playing back in late 2004, and I quickly realized that grinding and doing quests for a few coppers and silvers wasn't going to get me anywhere. That's when I discovered the WoW auction house! Instead of just selling stuff to vendors, I started to sell it on the auction where I would make exponentially more. Then I further discovered that I can just buy under-priced items from the auction itself and flip it right back for many times the original amount. By my early lvl 30s back in 2005 I had well over a 1000g (which was a lot back then), a mount by level 40, and a bunch of epic gear for several of my characters. Needless to say I never had problems with money since. This success has eventually led me to ask the same question of myself in real life: "I want to start a side business, but what am I good at?". The answer was of course, selling stuff online! That kicked off my eBay business which is now netting me a very solid profit (enough to comfortably live on) and that's on top of my everyday job (which is also paying more than peanuts). I literally would not be where I am now if it weren't for this amazing game, and ill be forever grateful for all the memories and the things that it taught me!
What a remarkable Video. Touching - reminding me of long spended time with (at least SOME time) alot of friends in my hometown. Lots quit early at 2003/2004. Others switched to private servers to have their specific "Warcraft-Feeling" in Wrath of the Lich King or Vanilla. This video was recommened by RUclipss' interpretation of my watching behaviour - but again I can say - it does not fit my behaviour. This time it underestimated my behaviour. :P I liked everything - that calm and sometimes lethargic voice, that sepcial WoW-aspects everyone would /sigh and lean back by a cup of tea which were told in this video. I played alot of year with one of the heartful-greatest PvP- AND Roleplay-Guild ever. I made a few songs on a shitty microphone and my low-level-songwriter-skill, but it was fun for me. I seeked my last sparks of joy out on private servers but - and I'm sad AND even-tempered writing this - it is done. Blizzard - in my point of view - made some serious mistakes after their peak(s), did NOT hold on promisses made - so this fruit began to fowl from inside - like guilds (ingame) and clubs (real world) did and will ever do. Thank you MadSeasonShow for this touching video which showed me, how many years of my life I have been playing, arguing, hating and loving things given to me by an oeconomic society. Thank you.
I agree with 1.7 mill i came back from a break since beginning of cata ,started back upv2 weeks before legion drop managed to have almost 3 110's by then (which is a fuckin joke) , but i lived through it becauze bfa promised alot pf thimgs including a resurgence im world pvp as they had systems in place tp encourage this. Leveled tp 118 only ever saw 1 other person my level to fight and every other time i saw horde they were just groups of 120s going around killim solo players and even that was barely ever. Im waiting for classic im gonna join. Guild raiding tarren mill and cross roads every got dam day. And it's gonna be the shit
That handshaking squeal...memories! US Robotics Sportster Flash: a little king on its own. I would secretly disconnect the house phone from the wall socket while wow-ing. Just in case. Because Onyxia would not understand. Dad eventually found out, there was hell to pay. That and the humongous phone bill lol.
The thumbnail said 43 minutes but it feels like 5 minutes. One of the best Madseason videos and that says a lot.
Tyrant I was shocked when I saw how long it actually was lmao
14 years? felt like 3 xD
I am only pissed a little that he skipped MoP conpletely without saying anything...
Budliky CZ maybe coz it sucked?
@@NeinnLive mop had the greatest additions to the games and the worse additions too, its a 50/50 xpac
I had crazy social anxiety in 2007 and bought wow on a whim. The escape and joy this game brought me was like nothing I've ever experienced before. It will always hold a special place in my heart
D S same
It saved your life kid 🙂👍🏼
Mystic Quartz 😂😂😂
The game saved many lives
@Satan Please dont become a psychiatrist
WoW is always the game that makes me sad every time I think about it. I met so many friends back in TBC and Wrath, and I can even still remember their character names and specs, and even their personal story IRL. Now I don't know where are they and how is their life doing.. FeelsBadMan
ctrlsoul i know exactly how you feel man....like truly lol you took the words from me. I have actually talked to two of them via battlenet but my i lost contact with best wow bud. Rip neoshaman
-Onic from thrall server
I met one of my best friends on wow over 12 years ago. And literally opposite sides of the US. (Washington state /FL) next month he’s flying out to be a groomsman in my wedding kept in touch with him via Facebook and phone very consistently since 2007. He was a feral dps.
Wow was for a lot of us where we met our friends and hung out.
After school we all moved further away and wow was our chill time..
I logged back in since wotlk last year and I got goosebumps all over my body seeing my character again.
@Hastur Dagon i am so sorry to hear that
@Hastur Dagon damn that's awful, I hope you are going to be OK
Not gonna lie, that south park episode was what brought me into wow.
True
Brought a ton of us to wow
Me 2
it's hilarious how accurate the episode is.
It's kinda funny, considering how the SP episode portrays the game and its players. Not quite the most positive advertisement right there.
I quit after wrath, the game for me ended there, Arthas dead and scourge finished i finished. I was the main tank for my guild and we played from release day right up until our Lich King kill. We where all great friends and every few months (now years) we all have a quick chat. When classic was announced we all starting chatting again. Mate thank you so much for this.
nox everything was just made up nothing felt right at all I really really miss that world of Warcraft, the story ended there. Now it feels like another author has taken on the challenge but doesn’t understand the fans or community.
Derp Inshmurtz mop was actually pretty fun imo, though i may be biased as a monk main. I enjoyed interacting with a race that up until that point was shrouded in mists and secluded from the rest of the world with underlying cause of what war can effect even to people who aren’t even involved. It’s tied for me to wotlk and legion for favorite iteration of the game. I still enjoy the game to this day.
My main perished in the Sundering of cata never to be seen again
Finally after years I got back into retail baby steps but currently playing a vulpera monk and loving the story. But alas if still cannot compare to the old days
You still play?
Still remember some kids selling magazine subscriptions for their High School senior trip. I bought some and in one magazine that came was a disc with the 20 level intro to WoW. I, a non-gamer for the prior 15 years, put it in my computer and was hooked. If not for that subscription I'm confident I would never have played it. Strange how things happen. Gave it up after six years, but occasionally still feel the pull of Azeroth. I've briefly tried other games, but none could capture that feeling of exploration and discovery. I can still recall the sights and sounds of Elwynn Forest as I started exploring. Still something magical about it.
I can still feel it, after so many years I left world of worldcraft i still remember these awesome feelings that are hard to compare to anything else.I wonder now if people that explored Americas felt the same.
Sometimes is good to have emulator instaled and have wotlk back....
My theory is and remains that the secret behind WoW's success is the social aspect - both when you wanted to engage in it but also when you didn't. WoW did a tremendous amount of work on this area. Looking at the innovations it brought, it wasn't just "more casual" - rather it was a set of very carefully made changes to get you to meet others and to keep you engaged with them.
The point of not losing XP when you die is so you don't get afraid of playing with others who aren't as good as you. The worst that can happen is you sit out for a little bit.
The point of rested XP was to make sure you could play a little less than some of your friends and still catch up, while still keeping that friend ahead in XP to make his accomplishment mean something.
The point of being able to respec characters was so that you didn't have to level from scratch again if you got something wrong (and not, as people later wanted, to constantly respec your character, removing its uniqueness in the process)
The point of the 250 hour levelling grind was to keep people who just wanted to play by themselves casually content for months and months, while more hardcore players could get through it faster with dungeons and just plain playing more.
The point of the colossal and hugely varied environment and the way the mountains were shaped was to keep some places remote for people who preferred to solo alone, while keeping other places central and full of people. (see for example Desolace vs. Tanaris. Both full of quests, but Desolace is much more remote) This is something Blizzard never replicated again, for some reason.
And so on.
I think LFG/LFR profoundly damaged that part of the game, and I think the biggest part people look forward to when playing vanilla is just meeting people and shittalking in The Barrens and all that stuff, because it really is a good time.
I genuinely feel bad for the people that never experienced this game back at release up until wrath.
I started playing in September of 2007. That's when I started High school and got my first own computer. :)
I really wish I had listened to a friend of mine who was constantly nagging me about playing WoW but I just kept evading the topic like the stubborn mule I was. Now I'm stuck with watching these videos and feeling some weird fake nostalgia for a game I've never experienced in its best state, hoping that Classic will give me just a taste of that when it launches.
i think that the essence of the game itself wasnt attach to the vanilla or any xpacs, the first time u play a mmorpg as wow on any of their xpacs u will experience this essence, any wow player would know what is this essence i mean.
You mean you feel bad for yourself that you wasted so much time on this game, but feel better momentarily by saying that you feel sorry for people who didn’t waste their time on the game.
Started playing on July 2006 13th birthday just resubed after a year off on my 25th bday. The game definitely has legs that much is true for me atleast and I love games always have and play alot of them. Wows just a fun game you get bored do other shit and sometimes you come back
My wife and I started playing wow together in Nov 2007. We still play today. We've taken a few extended breaks here and there, but we never flat out quit, and I don't think we will until the servers go offline.
This is my dream
Similar here - my then boyfriend got me a copy of the game to join him in 2006, we are still together and now married and still play together, lots of good memories in that game for us
Same! Me and my girlfriend started in Wrath, still playing in Shadowlands, same characters and all.
@@Hadesrebornn life is good 😢
This literally made me cry becauee this is too sweet. Something i've dreamed of ever since i started playing, having an so to play with. I hope you and your wife are doing great and still enjoy playing, even though the game has declined in it's quality.
What made Vanilla special for me was mostly the immersion. I still remember my first characters in the game, and how mesmerised I was after seeing the starting zones, and major cities. The atmosphere, visuals, and the music was amazing. Levelling was tough, and took a lot of time; so even the most asocial players made some friends. I've spent so much time in some zones that I have memorised them in detail. Something I cannot say about retail WoW, in which you can easily finish a zone in a couple of hours. I used to play in an RP realm, and I remember that RP wasn't just limited to certain hotspots in the world, but rather you could RP with other players all the time in every zone while levelling. It was always nice to save a player overwhelmed by mobs, and receive a formal knightly response. I have spent so much time adventuring; in the end, the game became a world, and my character became his own person. The game also used to give you this real sense of danger, which I felt strongly especially in more sinister zones like Duskwood or Burning Steppes. I wouldn't say retail WoW is a bad game really. But it isn't a groundbreaking MMO anymore. It doesn't produce or even try to produce immersion. Instead, it's just another game in which we endlessly try to get better gear to produce higher numbers for damage or healing. I miss being a broke adventurer putting himself in danger to get some filthy pants from the local innkeeper or something. Hope to share those adventures with you guys, and see you in Azeroth!
My most vivid memory from vanilla was pugging a zf. Didn't have much perspective on getting a group together then and I was an undead rogue, so I went to org and spammed for people to join until I found 4 others. Best memory was all of us traveling from org together to get there and how epic the gauntlet was for the first time back then, then fighting ghaz.
Every video I watch of you is of insane quality, one of the purest and best WoW content makers out there. Keep up!
Agreed. Hayven..
Thanks Mad. This video has to be one of the (if not THE) most comprehensive retrospectives on the history of World of Warcraft I have ever seen.
Glad you liked it Ruth....thanks for watching as always my friend
Beautiful man, just beautiful... Thanks a lot for the hard and amazing work you put in !
in vanilla and BC I made friendships that still hold on to this day. No comparison to everything that came after BC. I'll definitely give classic a try
“The drums of war thunder, once again.” Gave me chills. So stoked for classic.
best part :)
Same, I got the nerd chills.
Now we gotta wait for tbc
You could seriously make 8-hour long videos and I would still watch and listen to every second, repeatedly!
Thanks again :D
What made WoW special was the "it's a big world out there" feeling. That feeling's long gone and not even vanilla private servers can fully capture that because people know every detail of that iteration of WoW - there's no mystery. Unfortunately, we probably won't ever experience something like that again because the gaming populace isn't looking for that kind of fulfillment anymore. All they care about is instant gratification.
Nesano I'm hoping that Blizzard will come out with a new world for us to begin with again. maybe Wow themed, but a different dimension where everything is new and fresh again. I agree with you about the world feeling small. It would take an entire retake of the game to accomplish that. IMO
The alternate reality thing is something I've fantasized about in many cases throughout my gaming life. It's probably something with a lot of money-making viability.
"All they care about is instant gratification" which is exaclty whats going to lead to a rebirth of this game. Lol. Warcraft is like fashion 😂 stuff always comes back around.
SundayRide1204
Damn i just hope you are right... I NEED A NEW, GOOD MMORPG not all the bullshits on the market right now
I was just recommended Pantheon. Might be worth looking into.
In my opinion WoW was so interesting back in 04/05 because of the lvl phase and the huge amount of players you were able to see questing and being in the main cities ..
You knew many people by their nicknames and the "chat" was the "tool" to search for grp quest or dungeons.. you were forced to be interactive and there wasnt anything like "lvl boost" and if you seen somebody with lvl 60 and epic gear, you knew he was insane ... Epic still was EPIC ... now you get it everytime... Im looking forward to the classic re-release in 19/20
The community made the game for me
It's coming in August. Cannot wait
@ChrisCK Yea not, classic will be classic, the only failure will be the current wow. Its true that classic will not have anywhere near the numbers it did originally, but its not about the numbers its about the quality of players. Currently the game is filled with spoiled little cunts that want shit handed to them for minimum time invested and everyone is super antisocial. In classic your ass better become social real quick or you will forever stay having nothing but greens on your toon.
@@Rudizel Gotta agree with you man. I played back in Wrath for a few weeks which is not much but it happened and I saw how people actually enjoyed the game. I really didn't get to play the game for real until around Legion which is actually extremely late in the games life spam. I also got to play in the Classic Stress Test Servers and I would have to say this. I had more fun in the few days I played Classic in that stress test. Than any other time I ever played during Legion/BFA and that says something.
So Classic won't fail but I don't see it being as huge as it was back in the day. But know that if you see a Pally called MaxVegas on that game. Than you will know its me and I will most likely never touch the latest version. Classic will most likely be my main version of the game as long as I keep finding joy in it.
@ChrisCK I disagree. Many of Classic's players are late comers/newcomers in the WoW genre and will still enjoy playing the original game that they missed out on. Also, the same features that made WoW so great will be back and players will still be able to have that infamous gaming addiction. Even knowing everything there is to know about the game still won't stop someone from having fun playing it. The community and social aspect is what made the game so great, not to mention it was actually a challenge and engaged the player immensely. Add to the fact content will be slowly released over time, I believe we will see plenty of life from classic.
I have been asked to try WoW by numerous friends over the years, and my answer has always been "no". They would then usually say that they think I'd love it, to which I'd reply "that's what I'm afraid of".
I played. I was addicted. No ragerts.
You're depriving yourself of one of life's pure pleasures my child
I admire your self control, I just couldn't help myself. When I made a character on my friends account I HAD to have the game.
Try wow classic, you'll love it!
Dont play it now..... its extremely appealing. You will get hooked on it like fetinal 😂
i played WoW for about 6 years. Starting with its first release in Europe. To me Classic, BC and Northend were the perfect set, a complete story, from start to end. Beautiful design, great story telling, and adventures to do for every type of gamer. I loved it, still remember the big awe when I first time entered Stormwind as a tiny human warlock; I remember how I did endless quests to get another demon pet - but being totally proud in the end to have achieved it. I remember endless PVP sessions in Alterac, exciting like a good suspense movie. I found (real life) friends, love and adventures. Many places in WoW I remember just as I had lived there. When I listen to the soundtrack, I still get very emotional. It was a great time. And I don't regret it. Cataclysm destroyed WoW to me, not only as they destroyed many of my old favorite spots in the game. Pandaria looks truly beautiful, but at that time, to me WoW lost its old spirit already long time. Everything became too easy, too fast, gathering XP the fastest way as the only goal. No more travelling (I will always remember the time when we waited for the next ship and had a chat), no more experiencing this great artificial world. You beam from A to B, rush through the instance with no efforts needed and so on. You get your package of XP and stuff for character number 6. Buy everything you need instantly. It became mechanical. Byebye WoW, it has been a great time!
This..
I have always loved waiting for a ship 💕. Even when no one was around and I was playing super late at night it felt very “real”. Like waiting for a bus late at night lol.
43 minutes of pure entertainment, thank you so much. I love your channel.
What's so entertaining about this video, it's dismissive nature to other games or its inaccuracy? Also he just repeats everything what he already told in other vids.
My favorite part is where he calls Age of Conan the WOW killer and absolutely refuse to mention Lineage 2 or any other Korean style MMORPG which were free to play and probably had comparibale player base to WOW.
@@desmonddies Dude.
@@desmonddies stop talking about metin2.... any other mmorpg are buggy and shitty you toxic shit
@@desmonddies His voice is nice and relaxing. And he’s talking about a subject we enjoy. Not sure why you’re here though 😅
The social interactions with people were what made WoW special. The introduction of new systems (dungeon finder, garrison, phasing/realmhop/flying mounts etc.) slowly ate up what was left of the early experience. I defenitely felt like the people I met and played with became more anonymous and alien with every expansion. Nowadays you just finish worldquests with random people that you will probably never ever see again in your WoW lifetime. Back then beating a challenging task together could forge friendships for life.
Its not the same anymore. There is no social connection anymore nor do you even have the desire to. Back in the days, you know everyone who played on your server like your own neighborhood. You say hi to people when you bump into each other in ironforge.
I think its underestimating the effects of QoL changes combined with the market pressure to make the product more attractive for a broader audience.
Totally agree.
the oposite is what made me leave the game that is ppl being less social the community changed feeling hollow game playing. with out the fun interactions the game isnt fun that simple. my account also got hacked and turned into a gold mining char for 6 months before i decided to try again 12 - 18 months down the track. everything almost gone and blizzard wldnt help with my hacked burnt out character. Almost everything was gone including some high lvl crafts. Crazy hey
The game became so easy it was no longer necessary to discuss fights or work as a team.
I tanked a whole instance without anyone saying a single word. All the players cared about was the loot.
Not a single ad ?
Damn what a great channel, you just got me to sub
its one big ad dude lol
What's wrong with him making some money off of this O.o?
It's not like it's how we make our $ or anything... lol complaining about ads in 2019
make that 2 subs
@@NuclearGamerHD Hey! Dont act like you make money!
BFA: Is it... over?
Classic: No game rules forever, my son.
@ChrisCK remark... lol
I dont think classic will be as popular as people think it will be, blizzard may see a slight temporary resurgence of people looking for nostalgia. But most like me are just burnt out on the game.
@@candlestyx8517 it's not just nostalgia though. A solid playerbase has been on private servers for the past 6 or more years. The game is just good and it will bring back a large population. Probably not what it was, but definitely a worthwhile investment for blizzard
@ChrisCK Boy will you be wrong hahaha
@@candlestyx8517 Trust me, if blizzard does a good PR this can blow up...
What made it special? Community. Which was lost after Lich King.
Not really. WOTLK saw the peak of one of the biggest community cancers that have ever graced the game known as Gearscore - which is still a flamboyant ass-cancer problem today on basically all private servers, too.
Then you have the Dungeon Finding system. They both took a pretty big, hunky shit on the social aspect of the game with only WOD later topping it with SP phone game garrisons.
@@Coecoo yeah it is so understated how much players themselves ruined the game. Word of mouth and social interaction used to be the metric by which players were judged, but as the game grew more groups and guilds wanted to clear content, leading to the desire for faster and more efficient ways to judge players. Achievements became a metric instead of a trophy, gearscore was a necessary hidden system instead of the now built-in iLvl system.
Fact!
idk about the community, the graphics, the combat, the story and the freedom to explore got me hooked from minute 1. didn't really interact with anyone outside of my circle of friends who had brought me there.
@@lancejohnson3278 FPS scene is pure cancer too because of that. Back then you had to find a clan/ team or search for pugs in IRC chat. Now it's only a few clicks to get mixed with 4-5 dickheads without any communication. Like you say, people were judged by that and more often then not left alone.
I laughed at 16:31 "Why frost shock isn't overpowered" with 7 pages lol
hahahha i remember that shit
Well I don't know what the forum specifically entails, I just recall frost shock being a frustrating ability to play against as shamans could use it to kite you along with slowing totems. What I found humorous was the fact there's a lengthy forum and imagining the salt that would be induced in that discussion.
Kerem Kurt yeah Basicly people were pissed about it because the duration of the slow effect was equal to the cooldown of frost shock so they could perma slow you in arena. And very specc Ofc could use it so everybody got pissed especially in 2v2 where it had way more impact because almost everybody ran a dps healer comp . I played an heal sham in arena above 2,2k and I gotta say it was good but not op. U def. couldn’t use it on CD because it drained your mana a lot and other classes had lots of tools to get to you.
@@moulderzmoulder In classic they used downraning bro. U can use a rank 1 frostshock for very little mana and its the full slow.
@@horsthooden4600 yeah totally forgot
The thing with WoWs history is that at the time of its release it was something new and massive. Also one thing to point out is that WoWs history came from the 3 previous strategy games blizzard made, which were a huge success themselves. WoW gave you the opportunity to "enter" the strategy games you played and loved.
WoWs community has aged. I remember when i first entered WoW i was like 12-13 years old. My only responsibiliy was school, so i had a huge amount of time to invest. Many people follow a same story as mine. I remember me playing WoW with friends and raiding with them. Now, 14 years later most of the initial players like me, have aged. I am 25 now, with a lot more responsibilities and with other interests. Do i still play WoW? yes. But i am a very casual player. Most of my friends quit wow years ago with some of them playing sparsely .
I think its not that the expansions suck (except Draenor ). Its more like that the initial player base, which was 90s kids, have grown up and can no longer invest a lot of time in the game. New players come, but most of them have not played the initial games, the strategy games, and they cannot feel the hype of "joining" a huge world. That goes also for the 2000s kids. This is the reason a lot of people play and quit. Because they see wow just like another mmo, and not as a game that started in a small world (strategy games) and evolved into a huge world (WoW)
You are so right.
well said
30 year old checking in. I got better shit to do than play for 10 hours in a row nowadays.
Yeah I would also agree with what you said. I watched my big bro play Warcraft 2/3 when I was really little. when i got the chance to play wow at age 11 or 12(vanilla/bc)...nothing could compare...it was like writing my own story lol!!!
I have 25 too.same story:)))
43 minutes of pure joy incoming holy cow thank you !
Enjoy! Thanks for watching.
Are you not ENTERTAINED!?
Spooch Snoogens it's less about the commentator and more about the content of the video that he focuses on, really. I'd rather have him be monotone than someone who has focused on their commentating skills, making the quality of the content in the video worse.
I was so addicted at one point I called in sick a whole weekend and grinded my warrior 50 straight hours lol.
Based.
Respect! :)
I love how important Leeroy Jenkins is in WoW's history
Well rumours says that him and his guild made a fake pull and put it on video to get attention and should have been confirmed by Leeroy himself. As i said its rumours. But if thats the truth i think lots of the players i have seen in the game in the past should get famouse!
@@winterforth but they weren’t funny. leeroy was.
Ok, I know I'm not the only to grab some popcorn to watch this Emmy award-winning documentary.
The reduction from 40 man to 25 and 10 man raids happened in Tbc, not in warth, you got that wrong sir.
Anyway a great video, a solid 43 mins of entertainment
Keep up with the good work
Yeah not sure why I said that...huge brain fart. Thanks for pointing that out - I'll pin your comment so people know.
Edit: That was bothering me so much I went ahead and edited that line out. You may notice an awkward skip at 27:25, but I think it's better than having that error!
i am prety sure it happened in wrath , in tbc i rememeber ppl were raiding sunwell 40 man
nope tbc is right
realramas nope 40 man was cut in tbc
TBC's first raid was Kara, which was 10-man only. However, all TBC raids after were 25-man only, including Sunwell Plateau. Wrath introduced the option to do each raid as a 10 or 25-man group, starting with the very first Wrath raid, Naxx 2.0.
This vid feels like a fucking recap of my life. I've been here since dec 2004. I was 14 at the time. I'm 29 now. I've never stop playing apart from a 6month break during warlords of dranor. Thank you for the vid!
I started at the same time/age, I've taken breaks over the years but its crazy to think I've played this game for half of my life....
Same here. started in March 2005 - the game isnt the same anymore..so sad..
When everyone can reach anything, what does the player dream of?
Thats why watching videos from MadSeasonShow bring back the memories of glorious past...what a ride it has been.
KUCHENR1
Mythic progression and getting rank 1 in PvP.....? not much else to do similar to vanilla.... OH and collecting all mounts+ achievs
Figgyislyfee G it's not the same. Back then collecting epic 1 mount period took more time and skill than grinding old raids for mount drops like today. It was simply different.
I started playing when WotLK was around and that expansion still holds some of my dearest childhood memories. Wintergrasp song still brings a tear to my eyes
Seeing a populated and bustling ironforge makes me both happy and sad at the same time.
Thank you a lot for this! It's a masterpiece!
I always wanted to ask you.
One of the most *iconic* themes of Wrath, was the “Riplash” soundtrack in Borean Tundra...common sense, right?
But then, why the hell did they not include it in the Official Wrath soundtrack? I mean they even had a Borean Tundra track in the deluxe...BUT NO RIPLASH?! What the hell.
I think it's just a matter of space, there are so many music files in every expansion so they can only include a really tiny part of the music in the official soundtracks. Unfortunately your favorite was not selected even though it's great music.
This video makes me feel really emotional and nostalgia! I live in Turkey so had to play on EU servers, so since the game released in 2005 for Europe that means I was 12 years old, when I have created my first character in the world of Azeroth! He was a dwarf hunter whose name was Questimma in "RP" Argent Down server. There is a funny, childish and innocent story behind the name. One of my friends have learned the game from his brother and showed me, meanwhile I was playing my first mmorpg, or for that game you can just say a mmo actually, Knight Online! And my friend came to me, was very exited, and told, "hey do you know there is a game called World of Warcraft, where you can actually JUMP!" And i was really impressed by that because there was no jumping in Knight Online. And my friend logged in his account and enter the game with his dwarf hunter, whose name was Immaquest, so you see why my character name was Questimma, I mean come on I was 12 years old, and when I saw the WOW for the first time! My little mind was blowed away from my little fucking head fellas! I was like OMFG! Not only the jumping, you could even fly through an open enormous huge map and watch the fantastic view beneath you on a god damn gryphon! That was the best thing I have ever seen so far in my 12 years life! And I had to buy that game asap! So I did it of course and since that time I played every single expansion in the game, but, the classic wow! Man that game was a legend for me and for many people! I cannot even describe how I felt, how I was excited! That was a kind of a feeling that you cannot describe you can only live! I feel really really lucky that I had the chance to play classic wow during its released date! This game was a legend and it will always be! Dude you cannot imagine those graphs in that period of time the game released, how they were epic! And the obscurity in the game! The danger! It was a absolute great adventure! The music of the end of the video! This was a great video, which leave me in tears and made me wrote this comment here at 4:44 am! Thank you and love you! Great job!
Kerem Akyüz wholesome af
Every MadSeasonShow's show is like a Christmas present for me. Especially when it's 40+ minutes long. Much love from Bulgaria.
The amount of work put into this presentation is just simply unbelievable. Thank you for this. I can’t even imagine all of the work that went into this.
Wrath of the lich king was the most fun i’ve had on a computer game with great friends and challenging experiences.
When Madseason uploads Its an Instant like
This, this is pure gold MadSeason. You should be awarded for this beautiful bit of cinematic genius. 43 minutes and I was captivated all the way to the end. As if I didn't respect you enough as a content creator and player, you set the bar even higher. Keep it up man.
Personally, I consider myself a massive WoW player, but I never much cared about the end content. For me it’s about having alts (altoholic) and leveling. However, the levelling is the thing that they changed the most. They made it not easy, but a better word would be “straight forward”. In vanilla WoW you can be pretty creative with your approach to leveling and even your character build. Nowadays you have zero upgrades to gear til max level due to Heirlooms and really there is no free space to be creative with your character build and stats. If you fuck around with it in dungeons you get kicked.
Ironically if you’re a bad player in modern they’ll just kick you from the instance, but in Vanilla if you were a bad player people taught you how to play because it would be more of a hassle to find another tank/healer.
I never got the chance to play Vanilla WoW I was only 5 years old in 2004, I am really hoping at least some of what was experienced back then can be experienced soon. It can't ever be the same but if I could get just a glimpse, it would be worth a sub to me. @@loreaver3882
Fam, this video is so incredibly strong. I, similarly to some number of your followers, was not convinced by your particular style for a style, but I find myself seeking your detail of the game over its entire existence.
By now, your style is a rare luxury to behold. I'm back in the game after 7 years off (since launch) and your quality intel is that which I seek.
You voicing over with the ending gave me goosebumps. That was very well done.
THE BEST QUALITY AS ALWAYS keep up
you are the best
I can't believe it was 45 mins long. It felt like 10.
One of your best, Matt.
Thank you :)
I love your channel, it's very refreshing how chill you are when talking. Some other youtubers are too energetic to listen to while trying to wind down at night.
And now Classic is the best current expansion. lol
There should be a Micro Holiday where a max level elite dressed like the one in southpark just randomly spawns in places killing players
@@docp9956 it aired the day after I started Playing WoW
@@DagothDaddy I think I was already a few months into it at that point haha, so the addiction was set in. My brother gave me all sorts of shit since we watched every new episode when it aired back then. I sure miss those days sometimes.
Love the "drums of war" comment at the end.. a great lead into classic!
dude every time i listen to this very first wow intro song gives me goosebumps
What made it great is hard to explain. What it has lost over the years though, is the sense of greatness the world and game as whole had. That fact that leveling, and gaining gear/reputation was so hard and required so much time back then, made everything seem grand. In the endgame, me and my friends knew that some raids, and the best gear was something we weren't able to get our hands on. But that was okay! It made it seem grand! We would recognise players from the best guilds cos of their high tier gear and just watch in awe.. Blizzards quest to make everything accessible for every player ruined the game imo. Such a shame.
Yeah, because screw accessibility and letting others have fun and catch up.
Attack of the The Eye Creatures the world WAS fun without needing to raid. Dungeons were enough to satisfy the majority of players because getting a group together was a time investment that made the run rewarding. You also had progression guilds to do earlier raids to gear for the newest raid. Any casual could have made it to all the content IF he invested the time. Now there is no hardcore group left because every casual is given the best gear for free, mobile gaming shit is more prevalent than ever and sub numbers have massively fallen.
Tl;dr: yeah, fuck filthy casuals, catering to them drove away the hardcore crowd and the majority of casuals themselves who hated what the game became as it changed to appease them. Sub numbers dont lie, people voted with their wallets.
yes, I feel this also! I started playing +- 1 year late that mop was released and at that time leveling was still kinda hard (it took me months to reach max level and many kicks and deaths lol). Plus there was the community, that was much more united than now. I remember going ICC and Ulduar with some people with my guild and getting lots of cozy nights with them, since I hadn't a good pc to play the end game (it laggeg even in the starter zone eras lol so sad)
Now I played like 5 months of legion and 2 o bfa and since 2013-2014 I can't even find an active guild. The only players I play with are my brother and a friend of him that I barely know lol
It just seems so lonely, I miss those times of Mop in which I didn't care about gearing and leveling like a crazy just to..... have access to more gear?
This is one of your best videos in my opinion. Not only do you explain the history of WOW in a clear and concise way but the music and the old screenshots make the video feel so cozy...
MadSeasonShow is by far the best WoW related YT channel.
oh yes!!!! after watching this whole video I have to say BIG THANKS to MadSeason... a really nice documented trip down memory lane. I still love the game like I did way back in 2005 (EU release)... Long may the fun continue! FOR THE HORDE!!!!
You had me until "FOR THE HORDE!!!!" Seriously though, I have one maxed horde toon so I can experience their side of the story. I feel you don't get the whole experience unless you have both sides.
You sir made my evening im grabbing the popcorn :)
I remember my mom and my dad started playing it right as it came out in 2005 in europe (i was 2 yo at the time), they had many fights over who got to play and who had to take me to bed or play with me. Even after they split up when i was 6, they still shared this hobby. My dad stopped playing 4 years ago because he was too addicted and wanted to focus more on running, my mom is still playing from time to time, every now and then when she saw me playing or i asked her if she wanted to play with me. I started playing when i was around 9-10 so 8 years ago. I still remember my first time logging in and making a worgen frost dk on my moms account, i still play with that same character. This game grew on me since it was the only thing my parents shared. I stopped playing after legion for some time, and after the allegations (because i don't want to support an work environment like that at all) probably gonna start playing again when they resolved all issues. I just love this game and it will always have a special heart in my place. It was my escape from an abusive household ( 8-14), bullying and my declining mental health. I will always be thankful for all the times it helped me forget about all my problems, selfhatred and pain. It always brought me joy and hopefully will again in the future.
I started playing wow 6 years ago but Warcraft 3 had a bigger impact on my life. Although i love the world Blizzard has built, seeing how wow is now, with all the micro transactions and all the other bs Blizzard has done over the years, Its really hard to come back and play it, I think a lot of people have moved on by now and so have I. But I'm thankful that it helped me cope with life and I really hope that Blizzard does the right thing, until then I will be waiting.
Funny that you mentioned the South Park episode, because that's exactly what that got me into the game. My introduction to the franchise and was Warcraft 3, and I only tried it because some classmates in middle school recommended it, and that was in 2005. I didn't even consider playing WoW at the time. My laptop didn't have internet access, I couldn't use my parents' computer, and my parents would never have agreed to pay the subscription fee, so instead I stuck with the RTS genre. But then, in 2006, I bought an RTS called Rise of Legends, installed it, and was unable to play it because my old laptop's MBs were too low. I realized I needed a new computer, but due to financial reasons, I had to wait for over a year. During that wait, I saw the South Park episode, and since I was getting a new computer with internet access and everything, I made my decision. I would still play RTS games, like Rise of Legends that I couldn't play before, but within a few years, WoW became my favorite game, and here I am still playing.
what originally made this game for me was loving the original warcraft rts games, and stepping into a character in that world, and experiencing the world and story from a different perspective. The friction between factions, and the perspective of playing in each faction and race and how unique it can be i always thought was very cool. I have taken many breaks but this always keeps me coming back.
Great job on this video, definitely can tell it's a labour of love for you. Cheers!
Hey another large issue that people still constantly forget is that with the release of WoD is that it saw a large DDoS attack.
Now with TBC classic announced we will relive the glory days in outlands once again.
Such a well made video! Good job man.
Warcraft will forever have a special place in my heart. Played warcraft 2 battle.net edition in 1999, went to warcraft 3 in 2003, played vanilla wow and BC from 2006-2007, and I recently went back to WoW Classic. Started it back in August and I haven't stopped yet. I am making sure I do everything I missed back when I played vanilla. It really is a special awesome experience and I personally think it's the greatest mmo of all time.
Thanks for the trip down memory lane. I played the beta and was a day 1 player but havent played in years. For me, the massive-ness (is that a word?) of the world was what drew me in. I couldn't wait to explore what was out there. In those days it was hard to level up to the next zone so there was a truly feeling of accomplishment.
43 min...
Nice ;)
Just listening to the music brings back so many memories. I miss the old days of wow. I quit after mists of pandaria because they changed too much (redesigned areas, dumbed down talent tree ect).
exactly my sentinment. I was introduce by a relationship to the game and we would quest together, so revisiting and hearing the music is like going back to our date places :D. Then we split and I met and married a player from it. Never thought I would actually hate it. But I do, now. My kid loves it though.
Warcraft is in a good place right now. Legion and its content stream was what we needed
Dude this game ready past to the legend Thais its this games is trash now a lot ppl ready left all serv are empty
Ben Shapiro he can’t even use English bro please no
Still 10 M players
Played WC2 and 3, and started WoW 11/24/04. Just watched this entire video. Fantastic trip down memory lane. Very nicely done.
Really happy you paid immediate homage to Everquest, we have P99 and you guys are running the same route we did on EQ
Did someone say Thunderfury blessed blade of the windseeker?
I heard someone mentioned [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]!
Yes, i said, [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]
Or Chuck Norris?
It's white and looks longer than your average cloak or cape.
I really like [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]
I watch your video since a long time now, and I don't think I've ever left you a comment, but I have to say this: the best wow videos that I watch are yours, your channel is the only one I have notification for, and everytime youtube tells me that there's a new video I stop whatever I'm doing and watch it, even if it's a new player video, who cares, it's made by you, and I know exactly that it will be amazing and I will learn something new anyway. Even my boyfriend, who doesn't like wow videos at all, enjoys watching yours with me. This one is amazing as always, I love the passion you put in every single video you make, and I'm going straight to your patreon page to support you finally, it's due time. Thank you for your work, you're amazing!
Thanks so much for the thoughtful message, Fox! It's always motivating to read nice comments like yours. There's lots to look forward to in WoW with BfA and Classic on the horizon...can't wait!!
I can't wait for new wow content and for the videos you'll make about it :D
I've noticed I'm the 100th patron... I feel almost honoured now XD
you made me get goosebumps when you said :'and for others the drums of war thunder once again.'
I can tell this took a lot of work thank you for this. Props on no ads. Also your voice is soothing lol.
Played it when it first came out for about 5 years. That was a nice trip down memory lane. Thank you
27:05 made me tear up. The memories. Thank you Mad
Talk about how Activision took over control of WoW for the Cataclysm expansion, and why that reason alone is why WoW died....
And here we are in 2020, where Shadowlands broke records for release and subs. So no, wow is not dead. And it wont ever die until something TRULY better comes along
@@Rheticle Shadowlands is partially doing so well because there haven't been any other great MMO releases to compete.
Well you prob know that old blizz team coming back up as a new company, so they might introduce something interesting to mmo.
tears in my eyes, memories, exitment, woohooo the joy of thinking about the wow history.
I WAS THERE!!
A Masterpiece this video! Well done!
I started playing wow when I was six years old. I played it on my father's account, just so he could work, and I was happy. Then, after my mother and I moved away, I couldn't play anymore, but I still heard the elwynn forest, felt the arathi Highlands, felt the wish to play again. And now, as I am old enough, as I am able to pay for a monthly subscription, I play on private servers. I don't want to support blizzard anymore. But I still wanna play WoW. This game stuck with me. For years without playing it, without being able to watch videos about it (I didn't have a phone or PC back then) and with MoP being the last expansion I played, I still loved it. I still wanted to play. And I still do.
Rest in Piece(s), Blizzard, long live WoW
Pure quality, this is amazing!!
"Let's do this LEEEEROOOOOOOOOOOOOY JENKIIIIIIIIIIINS !"
just WoW
Literally!
The puns are real
"5 years ago"
Already? Damn time flies.
I came over from Dark age of Camelot in 2005. I feel so fortunate to have been introduced to this genre of games in the late 90s. I had such a blast playing during the early days. I recently reactivated my account and am enjoying the experience all over again! Great video!
7.3.5 patch was the patch that fixed the shitty leveling, now its like old WoW leveling, questing is now actually worth it, and dungeons are as hard as they used to be, and reaching the max level in the fastest time possible is no longer needed, now you can just enjoy reading quests and going at your own pace like the old days. Thats what ive heard and seen about 7.3.5, i was able to try out 7.3.5 on a free week, boy the leveling was just like back in my good ol noob days, fun as hell and absolutely addicting, That was back in late BC and early to end WotLK. God i miss those days
I joined back in 2005 and Personally as the years went on I felt the speed at which the patches and advanced raids came out was far to quick, and the people who raced to get there caused the downfall with their need for more. as things went on getting LFR made it possible for myself a more casual player who also wanted to see that content, but cheapened the experience dramatically from what it was when i started and the first time my guild downed the second boss in Molten Core (having taken a month of attempts). That was an insanely exciting moment to me, compared to even just the first raid boss in Wrath which years later *new guild different faction ect* that we downed on our very first attempt as a casual raiding guild. Maybe the game was easier because experience, or mechanics, or anything. It definatly felt that the hardcore raiders above Rushing to beat the endgame content were pushing the way and removing entire aspects from the game that made it as fun as it was. I went into instances to help people with class questing, or even just to play a game with friends, in vanilla. But in later years if you werent pushing for endgame chances are you would never see it untill after the next expansion when you could go back and run it with 3-4 people instead of a whole raid.
Galiant I agree. Going to play Classic at a slower pace this go around. Don’t have to worry about speed or a expansion to replace raid gear with greens.
If I had to choose one game to play for the rest of my life this would be it, however I feel like something went missing once Cataclysm was introduced. I remember having this feeling of being overwhelmed when it came out, as the world that became very familiar and homey to me has been shattered. I guess that was the point, but it just didn't feel right. A lot of the items and mounts that you had to work hard for have also become way too accessible due to complaints from people who wanted instant gratification and did not want to invest significant time into the game. Although I was by no means an addict, I felt like you deserved to stand out in the game if you have chosen to invest the time in getting certain items and achieving a certain status, which made the game challenging and gave you something to aim for. But with the introduction of Cataclysm I felt like the essence of this was gone, and I quit playing. Still, I'll always remember 2004-2010 as the best gaming days of my life.
Same bro... 2004-2010 are the best memories stuck in the past...
I will truly miss this game and also your content Madseason , that's for everything my friend!
They say games are a waste of time and don't teach you anything, but WoW certainly did. I remember always being strapped for gold when I started playing back in late 2004, and I quickly realized that grinding and doing quests for a few coppers and silvers wasn't going to get me anywhere. That's when I discovered the WoW auction house! Instead of just selling stuff to vendors, I started to sell it on the auction where I would make exponentially more. Then I further discovered that I can just buy under-priced items from the auction itself and flip it right back for many times the original amount. By my early lvl 30s back in 2005 I had well over a 1000g (which was a lot back then), a mount by level 40, and a bunch of epic gear for several of my characters. Needless to say I never had problems with money since. This success has eventually led me to ask the same question of myself in real life: "I want to start a side business, but what am I good at?". The answer was of course, selling stuff online! That kicked off my eBay business which is now netting me a very solid profit (enough to comfortably live on) and that's on top of my everyday job (which is also paying more than peanuts). I literally would not be where I am now if it weren't for this amazing game, and ill be forever grateful for all the memories and the things that it taught me!
nice path of exile music at 13:05 min
Chris Wilson would be proud
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The end of this Video, the last 10 sec is WOW...
MY WOW, 2005😭😭....thx
What a remarkable Video. Touching - reminding me of long spended time with (at least SOME time) alot of friends in my hometown. Lots quit early at 2003/2004. Others switched to private servers to have their specific "Warcraft-Feeling" in Wrath of the Lich King or Vanilla.
This video was recommened by RUclipss' interpretation of my watching behaviour - but again I can say - it does not fit my behaviour.
This time it underestimated my behaviour. :P
I liked everything - that calm and sometimes lethargic voice, that sepcial WoW-aspects everyone would /sigh and lean back by a cup of tea which were told in this video.
I played alot of year with one of the heartful-greatest PvP- AND Roleplay-Guild ever.
I made a few songs on a shitty microphone and my low-level-songwriter-skill, but it was fun for me.
I seeked my last sparks of joy out on private servers but - and I'm sad AND even-tempered writing this - it is done.
Blizzard - in my point of view - made some serious mistakes after their peak(s), did NOT hold on promisses made - so this fruit began to fowl from inside - like guilds (ingame) and clubs (real world) did and will ever do.
Thank you MadSeasonShow for this touching video which showed me, how many years of my life I have been playing, arguing, hating and loving things given to me by an oeconomic society.
Thank you.
Your channel is shaping up quite nicely. I enjoy the diversity of your content. Thanks for all of your hard work!
dude this video was so amazing
Thank you for this! BFA slowly approaching that means I will be getting back into WoW. The cycle continues. =)
With classic slowly approaching that means I will be getting back to WoW. The cycle continues. =)
I agree with 1.7 mill i came back from a break since beginning of cata ,started back upv2 weeks before legion drop managed to have almost 3 110's by then (which is a fuckin joke) , but i lived through it becauze bfa promised alot pf thimgs including a resurgence im world pvp as they had systems in place tp encourage this. Leveled tp 118 only ever saw 1 other person my level to fight and every other time i saw horde they were just groups of 120s going around killim solo players and even that was barely ever. Im waiting for classic im gonna join. Guild raiding tarren mill and cross roads every got dam day. And it's gonna be the shit
Great video bro! had a blast playing this game back in the day. Orc warrior back in WOTLK
WOTLK where the days
January 2020, after Classic has had some time to play and next Blizzcon is over, remake this video?
That handshaking squeal...memories! US Robotics Sportster Flash: a little king on its own. I would secretly disconnect the house phone from the wall socket while wow-ing. Just in case. Because Onyxia would not understand. Dad eventually found out, there was hell to pay. That and the humongous phone bill lol.
43 minutes without comercial adds ..... Thank you !!!