There's also the alternative variety of "Time to destroy God with the power of God.", or sometimes Persona even offers "Time to destroy my friends with the power of friendship...".
Being likely to die multiple times in the tutorial in Hard mode is, arguably, also part of the tutorial for Hard mode: It teaches you that the Random Number Gods have forsaken this hellhole, too.
Well played, anyone with the sheer dedication to do this is impressive, especially for Lucifer. I know the Lucifer fight in Chronicles has that Diarahan condition at 40k damage, and now I wonder if Nyarly's attempt at it buffless was affected by using the Maniax version to bypass the softlock and grinding? cause he does have that fight recorded, and yeah, Lucifer never uses Diarahan. Regardless, very well done on your part.
32:25 This is so funny for some reason, and I didn't even know about the "Pisaca Situation" until I saw his comment section of his Run without Buffs or Debuffs of Strange Jorney (Because I thought it was a joke I didn't understand).
I remember a video of 2 people that attempted to recall the plot of this game by memory after many years and one of their funniest lines was an exasperated "AND THEN YOU PUNCH THE SUN!". This is that line put into video format and I love it.
You can totally escape battles on Hard! The chance is just 0%. And no, that isn't me fucking with you - if you bypass the chance check, you can escape. This is done by ailmenting all the enemies and then Escaping. In the remake, there's a weird bug where ailments get cured faster, so this is pretty annoying...though this is how low level runs of Nocturne are done; early game, you have to fish for Zio shocks to escape battles and if you fail, you have to reload your save - miserable stuff. Alternatively you can also just get an Aeros and Erthys before entering the network and talk to the battles to forcibly end them - doesn't work on Choronzon, though... Troll is easy, even on this run. All you have to do is use the 2 Mahama Rocks you have access to by this point. Troll has no resistance to them whatsoever so you can very well kill him off this and skip the fight entirely. There's no reason you have to even think about this one. Other challenge runs usually either ban Dark Might because it's really OP or are running solo where you can't get it, so Dante proves a real tough nut to crack. Doesn't help that his attacks have absurdly high accuracy (over 100%) so Sukukajas are mostly useless. Here, though, where Dark Might is literally the only thing you can grasp, he doesn't seem so bad. Watchful is 50% of EXP, btw. Cursed corridor halves HP with every three steps. So yeah, grinding HP doesn't really help much! You probably should be killing the Virtues on White Rider's fight. With what you were doing, they'd begin physically attacking you and that'd be bad, but if you swap out a demon every time you get to -4 Rakundas, they'll keep wasting their time doing it, and on each turn you kill them, the enemy gets three turns post-summoning the Virtues instead of their usual four. If you had a team of Repel Fire users, I could definitely see it being worth it to try to get White Rider to use Prominence to skip his turn entirely, but I don't think you did at this point. Puzzle Boy: lol git gud I absolutely get using a guide for this if you're here just for punching God in the face, but come on, you found the other puzzles fine, why not dedicate an afternoon to the block puzzle game? Level 19 is really stupid considering there's spam of 4 quadrillion blocks and you only have to use three of them but the rest is fine. For Girimehkala, why didn't you intentionally get Muted by random encounters? That solves the entire fight, doesn't it? I feel like Girimehkala should be totally fine if you just get phys null off Arahabaki and let that coast you to victory. You'd need a mind null to stop Arahabaki from giving extra turns to Panic Voice unless you got Arakabaki muted too but it still sounds preferable to grinding to level 58! For Red Rider, I still feel as long as you kill both Powers at the same time, then you're better off than leaving them alive. You can't Sukukaja buff, so you aren't getting avoids, so Red Rider gets one turn, they get one each, then he gets one after. If you kill them, he Dragon Eyes to five turns, uses two summoning them, they get one turn each, then he gets only one to attack you. Sounds like a decent option if you can't penalize his turns, and Attack Mirror spam is the only way to do that. Oh, also if you have at least 3 allies alive, and are particularly unlucky, Terrorblade can hit one target 3 times, like 3 trucks. Lol, lmao even. But yeah Dekaja Rocks make it fine. For Kin-Ki, you should've been throwing Mabufu Rocks. Unlike Girimehkala, he can be frozen, which nullifies his physical resistance. With that and Arahabaki he should be fine...keyword should because debuffs suuuuuuuuuuck. You can swap out demons to remove them like White Rider, though! Ah, at Pale Rider I now see why you've not been swapping out demons - because someone told you they have to die to have their stats reset. Well, sorry, not the case. You could've been swapping to cut your debuffs this whole time. Hey, at least this is the fight where that matters the least, since you can't swap out Demi-Fiend and he's what matters here! I'm still shocked you first tried this even overlevelled - -4 in all stats on Demi Fiend + Loas suiciding = game fucking over.
Cant wait to watch this later!! I swear i watched the stream vods at least twice. Excited to see all your hard work editing this dense banger of a challenge run. Merry christmas Nitsua, thanks for the present.
OH MYYYY THE VIDEO IS HERE!!!!!! I missed a few live streams but attended tons of them THANK YOU NITSUA FOR THIS HARD WORKED ON VIDEO I APPRECIATE YOU SO MUCH🙌🖤
To expand on the Mystical Chest, it's not quite "random" but guaranteed at New or Full. At 1/8, you have 1 in 8 odds of getting the rare, 2/8 you have 2 in 8, etc, up to 8/8 being guaranteed on Full and 0/8 being impossible on New.
I remember taking about 2 hours and 40 minutes trying to actually do puzzle boy with no guides, I did about the first 16 or so stages which I was impressed by, but then seeing the last 4 I legitimately gave up and took an extra 20 minutes or so even while following the guide because I had to make sure I was doing it step by step correctly
That's a good question. Didn't realized that. So I looked at the stream footage and Dante got muted because I used a muscle drink to heal him. An item that has a chance of a negative side effect. I just didn't bother to cure the mute as there's no point in curing an ailment that means nothing in this challenge run.
For fusing Surt you could have skipped two levels of grinding by getting cursed by a Magatama. After getting cursed, fusing an element with a Tyrant creates a higher level Tyrant. Anathema, Muspell, and Satan among others can curse the Protag
"Death of yhe devil hunter" sounds like sucb an understatement since in his own series Dante, in his won words "has been stabbed and jabbed by a lot of things" already not to mention "dying"
52 min- to give the great will some credit here, I think the only reason why those couple of murders in the park sparked the end of the world was because Yuko was emo and wanted the world to end because she was sad (legitimately she tells you she was sad about there being a bunch of people being unhappy in the world and there being people that do bad things, so she was sad about it and Hikawa helped push her into being nihilistic like him and just wanting to end the entire world and she thought to start over with a fresh slate while Hikawa just wanted everything blank and void forever) and Hikawa actively went about setting up the stuff needed to trigger it with her support via ritual sacrifice and such Very well done to managing to finish this mad idea
underrated channel, nice content as usual. I've been playing smt5 V recently and it is so much fun. In my opinion best jrpg now, in terms of gameplay. Hope You will do challenges in smt5V too. Thank you for great content!
Lucky that he learn about the changes between one and other version, I remember the video of Deuss and... that could be the real difficult point of the battle, the other change (attack+dekaja of lucifer) isn't relevant with the rules
White rider fighting you at every terminal isnt rng in my experience, i got away 100% of the time by saying i was ready, and then saying no when asked if i was sure, and i went to asakusa a lot. Also, you do not need to keep pixie in her evolution line. Fusing her into a stronger demon is perfectly fine, and fusing that demon into something else too, and so on. Whats important is that you never release the demon or kill them by giving them to the treasure finding soul. You can alwats tell what demon has the first pixie as their ancestor because it will always be at the top of your list when fusing in the cathedral of shadows
Definitely a for a man challenge. It's interesting but dang this is pure hard and almost masochism at some points. Glad your sanity is intact right Nitsua?
Just to let you know, the leveling up lowering magic damage, crit chance, and accuracy was all changed in the had version. The videos you linked are about the ps2 release.
I mean, I've never beaten a Zelda game and I had no issue with Okumura's palace. I never understood how so many people had issues with it, it's tricky but it's not THAT bad. (Certainly nowhere near as bad as some of the infamous Atlas teleporter dungeons.) Same with the puzzles in Shido's, it's a long palace but the rat puzzles are NOT hard at all. Edit: Oh hey, Atlas teleporter dungeon! They always suck, that's not special to SMT or even it's spinoffs lmao
Just some words of pronounciation of how i always did it. Mah-ta-Dorr, Sca-hahch, Zhou-Chou-Tehn, Kou-Moo-Kutehn, Jii-Kohku-Tehn :) Although, considering how much Nocturne is biased towards a Physical Build... How about a Run where Physical Attacks are banned.
It's absolutely all in great fun, but bro, you went into the hard game on the hard mode and aren't using the game's resources, of course the tutorial isn't going to be made to be passed.
Cant wait to see demifiend sliding forward and punching demons for 3 hours straight
I like to think he could just walk up like a normal person but he has the sick sliding power and he's gonna use it.
Persona protagonist: "Time to destroy God with the power of friendship!"
SMT protagonist: "Time to destroy my friends with the power of God"
There's also the alternative variety of "Time to destroy God with the power of God.", or sometimes Persona even offers "Time to destroy my friends with the power of friendship...".
Since I have a skill issue this challenge is just me playing the game normally 😎
Seeing you give up Focus literally brought a tear to my eye, I actually almost cried.
Being likely to die multiple times in the tutorial in Hard mode is, arguably, also part of the tutorial for Hard mode: It teaches you that the Random Number Gods have forsaken this hellhole, too.
Babe, wake up, new Nitsua Gamer video dropped. Time to sit for three hour straight for the dumbest idea on youtoube.
Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne: We get off on your tears
-an actual quote from a dev
Well played, anyone with the sheer dedication to do this is impressive, especially for Lucifer.
I know the Lucifer fight in Chronicles has that Diarahan condition at 40k damage, and now I wonder if Nyarly's attempt at it buffless was affected by using the Maniax version to bypass the softlock and grinding? cause he does have that fight recorded, and yeah, Lucifer never uses Diarahan.
Regardless, very well done on your part.
Ah, what an amazing journey,
I was there & i can't wait to go on another journey~
What a... Strange Journey, you could say
@furiouscorgi6614 indeed let's just hope it's not the Last Surprise for us
@FankyRonald some Mass Destruction might happen if it was
@@FankyRonaldbecause then the friends we should’ve killed will be able to Take Over
32:25
This is so funny for some reason, and I didn't even know about the "Pisaca Situation" until I saw his comment section of his Run without Buffs or Debuffs of Strange Jorney (Because I thought it was a joke I didn't understand).
32:26 Y'know, when you said "Nyarly's favorite demon" I had a feeling I knew exactly where you were going with this. Goddammit, man. XD
I remember a video of 2 people that attempted to recall the plot of this game by memory after many years and one of their funniest lines was an exasperated "AND THEN YOU PUNCH THE SUN!". This is that line put into video format and I love it.
You can totally escape battles on Hard! The chance is just 0%. And no, that isn't me fucking with you - if you bypass the chance check, you can escape. This is done by ailmenting all the enemies and then Escaping. In the remake, there's a weird bug where ailments get cured faster, so this is pretty annoying...though this is how low level runs of Nocturne are done; early game, you have to fish for Zio shocks to escape battles and if you fail, you have to reload your save - miserable stuff. Alternatively you can also just get an Aeros and Erthys before entering the network and talk to the battles to forcibly end them - doesn't work on Choronzon, though...
Troll is easy, even on this run. All you have to do is use the 2 Mahama Rocks you have access to by this point. Troll has no resistance to them whatsoever so you can very well kill him off this and skip the fight entirely. There's no reason you have to even think about this one.
Other challenge runs usually either ban Dark Might because it's really OP or are running solo where you can't get it, so Dante proves a real tough nut to crack. Doesn't help that his attacks have absurdly high accuracy (over 100%) so Sukukajas are mostly useless. Here, though, where Dark Might is literally the only thing you can grasp, he doesn't seem so bad.
Watchful is 50% of EXP, btw.
Cursed corridor halves HP with every three steps. So yeah, grinding HP doesn't really help much!
You probably should be killing the Virtues on White Rider's fight. With what you were doing, they'd begin physically attacking you and that'd be bad, but if you swap out a demon every time you get to -4 Rakundas, they'll keep wasting their time doing it, and on each turn you kill them, the enemy gets three turns post-summoning the Virtues instead of their usual four. If you had a team of Repel Fire users, I could definitely see it being worth it to try to get White Rider to use Prominence to skip his turn entirely, but I don't think you did at this point.
Puzzle Boy: lol git gud
I absolutely get using a guide for this if you're here just for punching God in the face, but come on, you found the other puzzles fine, why not dedicate an afternoon to the block puzzle game? Level 19 is really stupid considering there's spam of 4 quadrillion blocks and you only have to use three of them but the rest is fine.
For Girimehkala, why didn't you intentionally get Muted by random encounters? That solves the entire fight, doesn't it? I feel like Girimehkala should be totally fine if you just get phys null off Arahabaki and let that coast you to victory. You'd need a mind null to stop Arahabaki from giving extra turns to Panic Voice unless you got Arakabaki muted too but it still sounds preferable to grinding to level 58!
For Red Rider, I still feel as long as you kill both Powers at the same time, then you're better off than leaving them alive. You can't Sukukaja buff, so you aren't getting avoids, so Red Rider gets one turn, they get one each, then he gets one after. If you kill them, he Dragon Eyes to five turns, uses two summoning them, they get one turn each, then he gets only one to attack you. Sounds like a decent option if you can't penalize his turns, and Attack Mirror spam is the only way to do that. Oh, also if you have at least 3 allies alive, and are particularly unlucky, Terrorblade can hit one target 3 times, like 3 trucks. Lol, lmao even. But yeah Dekaja Rocks make it fine.
For Kin-Ki, you should've been throwing Mabufu Rocks. Unlike Girimehkala, he can be frozen, which nullifies his physical resistance. With that and Arahabaki he should be fine...keyword should because debuffs suuuuuuuuuuck. You can swap out demons to remove them like White Rider, though!
Ah, at Pale Rider I now see why you've not been swapping out demons - because someone told you they have to die to have their stats reset. Well, sorry, not the case. You could've been swapping to cut your debuffs this whole time. Hey, at least this is the fight where that matters the least, since you can't swap out Demi-Fiend and he's what matters here! I'm still shocked you first tried this even overlevelled - -4 in all stats on Demi Fiend + Loas suiciding = game fucking over.
Cant wait to watch this later!! I swear i watched the stream vods at least twice. Excited to see all your hard work editing this dense banger of a challenge run. Merry christmas Nitsua, thanks for the present.
OH MYYYY THE VIDEO IS HERE!!!!!! I missed a few live streams but attended tons of them THANK YOU NITSUA FOR THIS HARD WORKED ON VIDEO I APPRECIATE YOU SO MUCH🙌🖤
Jeez, the effort put into this is insane, you’re a g nitsua
To expand on the Mystical Chest, it's not quite "random" but guaranteed at New or Full.
At 1/8, you have 1 in 8 odds of getting the rare, 2/8 you have 2 in 8, etc, up to 8/8 being guaranteed on Full and 0/8 being impossible on New.
YES IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS RETURN OF THE KING
I would love to see you play any other smt game with any challenge you think would be fun. This was a great video ❤
Yooo i only started drinking beer and here is the snack
wait hold on don't eat the video I still need to watch it
@@chessterstone it's a big ass snack there's enough for everyone
NitsuaGamer uploading PEAK!
This is a certified NitsuaGamer classic
I felt PHYSICAL pain seeing you discard focus..
Excellent video!
Godspeed, you brave simple man!
3 hour nitsua video? Im in
3 hour SMT 3 challenge run, let's goooo!
Just finished watching. Good job. :)
I remember taking about 2 hours and 40 minutes trying to actually do puzzle boy with no guides, I did about the first 16 or so stages which I was impressed by, but then seeing the last 4 I legitimately gave up and took an extra 20 minutes or so even while following the guide because I had to make sure I was doing it step by step correctly
thank you for the great content and fun streams :), you also inspired me to buy the game
love to see your back 😁😁😁
23:10 Secret ritual: Running in circles around a funny box for good luck
Game journalist, hard, or masochist? Yeah... that's painfully accurate.
I attempted a Persona 3 Portable No Skills challenge some time ago, and Fusion Spells being items in this version made things much easier
56:58 Hot take: The first 17 levels of Puzzle Boy are fun and engaging.
Spicy take indeed
When the hardest boss of the game is the lack of QoL future games have
Thematically it fits for how much of a super boss Demi-fiend is in cameos
THE GOAT IS BACK !!!!!
How is Dante Sealed in the Ahriman fight? Hes supposed to be immune to Ailments.
That's a good question. Didn't realized that. So I looked at the stream footage and Dante got muted because I used a muscle drink to heal him. An item that has a chance of a negative side effect. I just didn't bother to cure the mute as there's no point in curing an ailment that means nothing in this challenge run.
For fusing Surt you could have skipped two levels of grinding by getting cursed by a Magatama. After getting cursed, fusing an element with a Tyrant creates a higher level Tyrant. Anathema, Muspell, and Satan among others can curse the Protag
i genuinely didn't know that you could punch the bubbles in the blood vessel minigame!
"Death of yhe devil hunter" sounds like sucb an understatement since in his own series Dante, in his won words "has been stabbed and jabbed by a lot of things" already not to mention "dying"
52 min- to give the great will some credit here, I think the only reason why those couple of murders in the park sparked the end of the world was because Yuko was emo and wanted the world to end because she was sad (legitimately she tells you she was sad about there being a bunch of people being unhappy in the world and there being people that do bad things, so she was sad about it and Hikawa helped push her into being nihilistic like him and just wanting to end the entire world and she thought to start over with a fresh slate while Hikawa just wanted everything blank and void forever) and Hikawa actively went about setting up the stuff needed to trigger it with her support via ritual sacrifice and such
Very well done to managing to finish this mad idea
“Shin Megoomi Tensey III: Cockturn” The Run
Ah can you beat nocyurne by mashing x
Wow look at that nerd being a channel member despite not being mentioned in over a year
@@DeadShoot48659 😂
Fun video. Commenting for the algorithm.
underrated channel, nice content as usual. I've been playing smt5 V recently and it is so much fun. In my opinion best jrpg now, in terms of gameplay. Hope You will do challenges in smt5V too. Thank you for great content!
Great, now do Metaphor Refantazio with only Strohl and the healer archetype
oh yeah, we're eating good tonight boys.
you're deus 2
you are completely insane for grinding for kagutsuchi
Correction, on chronicles, he can use diarahan MULTIPLE TIMES
Lucky that he learn about the changes between one and other version, I remember the video of Deuss and... that could be the real difficult point of the battle, the other change (attack+dekaja of lucifer) isn't relevant with the rules
Lol, love the Nyarly reference
Im 99% sure theres an npc in the early game that tells you that you should open mythical chests during a full moon
Thank you, Shin megami tensi 3; Nocturne.
White rider fighting you at every terminal isnt rng in my experience, i got away 100% of the time by saying i was ready, and then saying no when asked if i was sure, and i went to asakusa a lot. Also, you do not need to keep pixie in her evolution line. Fusing her into a stronger demon is perfectly fine, and fusing that demon into something else too, and so on. Whats important is that you never release the demon or kill them by giving them to the treasure finding soul. You can alwats tell what demon has the first pixie as their ancestor because it will always be at the top of your list when fusing in the cathedral of shadows
Man that's epic, what a run.
Definitely a for a man challenge. It's interesting but dang this is pure hard and almost masochism at some points. Glad your sanity is intact right Nitsua?
Left
Damn.
The first time I had real trouble with Girimekhala was in that Jack Bros game by the guys who made Touhou Luna Nights. That was seriously (un)fun.
1:17:07 deus must be crying again 🥲
Oh yeahhh this is gonna be awesome
24:15 I dubbed it Full Moon Shuffle.
Goat uploaded
These challenge runs show the reality of SMT Nocturne devs hating the players, there's a lot of dumb decisions for apparently no reason
So you’re saying you’re not Sailor Mars and just a normal guy? Crazy, can’t believe it, will need therapy to recover.
Just to let you know, the leveling up lowering magic damage, crit chance, and accuracy was all changed in the had version. The videos you linked are about the ps2 release.
I'm pretty sure it was not changed, and there's definitely evidence of inferior magic damage and physical accuracy later in the run.
1:49:42 FISH.
I mean, I've never beaten a Zelda game and I had no issue with Okumura's palace. I never understood how so many people had issues with it, it's tricky but it's not THAT bad. (Certainly nowhere near as bad as some of the infamous Atlas teleporter dungeons.) Same with the puzzles in Shido's, it's a long palace but the rat puzzles are NOT hard at all.
Edit: Oh hey, Atlas teleporter dungeon! They always suck, that's not special to SMT or even it's spinoffs lmao
I died to the tutorial once or twice on normal mode
So which was worse, this or the doing nothing run?
Run invalid because of use of dlc
insane
Just some words of pronounciation of how i always did it. Mah-ta-Dorr, Sca-hahch, Zhou-Chou-Tehn, Kou-Moo-Kutehn, Jii-Kohku-Tehn :)
Although, considering how much Nocturne is biased towards a Physical Build... How about a Run where Physical Attacks are banned.
Fight raidous version of lucifer
Dantes version is easy
Shame the game doesnt have more creativity sparking passives, but i guess thats more or less still true in modern smt
Pronounce Tetraja in the same way you would pronounce Tetrakarn
Youre playing smt with 3 characters lol but i wouldn't do this challenge let alone all 4 of my team only use attack camand
Punch
It's absolutely all in great fun, but bro, you went into the hard game on the hard mode and aren't using the game's resources, of course the tutorial isn't going to be made to be passed.
not a fan of calling demons personas....
nyarlys favourite heheh
erm i think you SHOULD play nocturne on hard on your first run. just like get better demons lol get better magatama
What lol
I was enjoying this until some toad like creature spawned In the bottom left corner and refused to leave.
Maybe if you kiss the toad, it'll turn into a human!
@@NitsuaGamer sorry toad, the princess is in another castle.
@@younesakdah1803Good. At least the toad can chill with friends while the princess can burn along with your ego 😏😎🖕