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Hi duke! Big fan, actually friends with jakin
lmao I love how you quoted my opinion on how 6e is gonna come out as "they sent me a box of shit"
video idea
how each class would explain how d&d is played
AMAZING! but quick question, whats ur fave edition?
How do you feel about Pathfinder?
Adbarian has multiclassed into Bard, he is now Adbardbarian
And thats just the start....
He shall become rouge adbardbarian and steal the episode to use his wizard rouge adbardbarian powers to make us subscibe
Then he will use his fighter wiz rouge adbardbarian monk power to pummel us to death with ads
and thats the artificers hat right? what happened to the poor man wish we could see more skits with him, druids and artificers are classes i play alot
@@Random-ix3oe the Rouge AdBardBarian wears only red…
I feel like 3rd onward is pretty much how every videogame attempts to balance things.
3rd: Hey, look, new mechanics!
3.5: So, the players broke the system with our own mechanics.
4th: NERF IT TO HELL
5th: Well, WE think it's balanced!
Edit: A word. I know English grammar, I swear.
"If we just claim everything is intentional then maybe people will think we have been accuratrly planning it all without any faults. So, for the DMG Im planning to say "do not give any magic items", Im sure thatll work out great and have no issues down to line."
Pfft, as if they even tried to balance 5e.
@@MelissiaBlackheart you cant fail if you never try in the first place!
Don't worry, 8.314159 Edition will fix all of the issues!
@@OneShotQuesters I wish I could be this optimistic...
5th: Well, WE think it's balanced!
lvl 10 Bard: Ok If you think so... (proceeds to one-shot tarasque)
I love the torching of the room followed by "OH Hi!"
Moral of the story: You may have different point of views, but you can still remain friends!
True friends don't quibble and argue about who killed who.
Angry religious mob: takes off shoes before storming in
@@Bos187 POLITE Angry Religious Mobs do that. Last game I was in, we had a rude one. Tracked mud all over the floor on their way to burn me at the stake.
alternative 3.5: "there's so much stuff in here we don't even know if some of our rules contradict each other!"
alternative 5e: "so there's basically two ways to play this game. the way twitter intended, and the fun way."
Welp it’s not like I care to be canceled. LETS DO IT THE FUN WAY!!
You forgot the way were an ability check nat1 mean failure that can destroy your body and nat20 don't guarantee success. You know.. the wrong in every aspect way.
Never disturb the balance of the dice! You choose the path of critical win/failure or choose the path of equal chance.
Gal dang...why didn't I think of that joke haha!
Not reading the new lore or playing the new adventures because they´re filled with woke shit while also buying said product for the cool mechanical features that you´re 100% gonna homebrew into way better stuff is such a 5e moment it´s no longer funny.
I.e. I don´t care what WotC says about Orcs being just as smart as other races this is my campaign in which every orc is a gruff retard and every dark elf is a total matriarchal psychopath that literally eats people for the name of Lolth.
Whats the fun way
I can remember when your only options were human, elf, dwarf, or halfling; your only classes were fighter, magic user, cleric, and thief; and your alignments were lawful, neutral, or chaotic. Man I’m old. Lol
I remember when thief was added to the core three (fighting man, magic-user, and cleric). Races were Human, Dwarf, Elf, or Hobbit. And don't forget that in Alternate 1.5 (Basic/Expert/Companions/etc), demihumans were classes as well as races.
OK grampa. Let's get you to bed
Sounds boring
@@105saphira I'm sure it wasn't for you. It required an attention span lasting longer than seconds.
@@falsnamae3511 that makes no sense
Pathfinder 1st Ed: Hey guys! This other company basically made D&D 3.75! They cleaned up a few areas, and made a bunch of improvements! Sorcerers actually have skills that benefit from their stats, Fighters have a bunch of sub classes that keep them from being so basic, and The Rangers don't completely suck now!
Pathfinder 2nd Ed: Why is the succubus wearing more clothes?
Starfinder: Well Magic has been heavily nerfed, but we get GUNS now!
bring back naked succubi smh
There are no subclasses in PF1 only archetypes wich every class has. So the fighter is the same thing and the ranger still suck to the point that the slayer is just a better ranger.
PF 1st Ed: Don't worry though, we still kept a whole bunch of useless feats, traits, and other things that trick you into thinking there is variety, but actually only let you to be useless in many different ways. 90% of your feats would actually only give you a +1 to something on the way to a feat you actually want! And you'll waste hours in analysis paralysis, reading them up, only to in the end still take the same thing everyone else does! The Rangers may not completely suck, but the Rogue sure does!
@@Observer29830 Try the Unchained rogue sometime, think it's a bit better. pretty sure all the Unchained classes are improved versions of the origionals.
I can't get over the wall-ad-barian lol. I had a barbarian character raised in the wilds who haaated walls and occasionally chopped his way through doors and walls so he could feel the breeze.
Name a better Duo, Ill wait
@@OneShotQuesters Best I could do was the Wad-barian but I think people will take that the wrong way lol. You def nailed it first time and that's why I love it!
As a Catholic, I find DND to be such a wonderful hobby. I've seen more morality explored from a Rogue (I love rogues, btw) than some of the people telling me it's "amoral and sinful." And honestly, its a great way to understand people of different backgrounds (either IRL or in game) and how to grow.
Roleplay at its best.
Were you a Catholic in the '80s, when every adult in your life was convinced the game was literally satanic and in order to play it at all, you had to engage in a level of clandestine activity that would put a CIA agent to shame? Those were the days...
@@DolFan316 Not old enough actually, only recently confirmed 😊. I researched religion, faith, the lack there of, and eventually found truth and Jesus in the Catholic Church.
There are many people who place their insecurities onto others. Some people can drink and not become drunkards, others have to avoid that temptation. However... some people who are self conscious about their own vices try to force others to conform and abstain, even when its not a temptation they struggle with.
(For example: I confront my parents about drinking a beer once in a while BECAUSE I'm an alcoholic. They don't struggle, but I see it as a threat to me, or just don't understand that they may have never had an issue with alcoholism)
I highly doubt dnd is going to cause someone's faith to weaken... lol. But some very insecure people or those who don't understand the game may find it to be their stumbling block, so thet harass others.
It's unfortunate a minority gives all of us a bad name. God bless!
@@DolFan316 I was and am Catholic and went to Catholic HS and played with my friends. Teacher didn't mind, in fact nobody cared. The push then and now is to keep God at the center of your life, not other things. Now the reality of today world is completely the opposite. Catholics and most Christians don't care about what RPG you play or even if you do. The radical alphabet people are the ones pushing and not accepting of people. Sounds weird and ironic but unfortunately true. You show up at some places with anything they perceive as not fully supporting their cause and they want you banned. Heck this could be you wearing a Pepe the frog shirt, a pro life shirt or a MAGA hat... They will scream and attack you far worse than any Christians did back in the 80's. The "radical" Christians back in the day tried to stop a game from being played, but the radical alphabet people today will try and cancel your life.
As a fellow catholic playing dnd I salute you.
4th Edition: How it is actually played
"Ok, so I have a Power Bonus to hit, and we also have an aura bonus from the cleric, but the boss has an aura negative to hit, but I have combat advantage because flanking.... so.... uh... the hell is my Power to hit right now?"
"Alright, so we start combat, and the boss has four times as much health as us. What's the worst that can happen?" *6 hours later...* "And we beat the boss."
A lot of 4e's 'DnD outside of combat' was covered in rituals and the like, and there are even items i've taken (Map to Unseen Lands being my fav). But the big combat bloat with enemies having to many hit points, to many things going on at once (Although I did have one game where almost all combat was 'I sustain' because I had a sustain minor and standard on the field, and it was hilarious). Couple that with the crap shoot that was Character Builder going from easy to use program you can use to "Only online and with silverlight".
And just waaaaay to many books
Too many hit points was only an issue in the first 2 monster manuals. Afterwards, the game was much better balanced, and honestly has the best monster design and balance in any edition of D&D since.
Aso, 3.5 edition has a fuckton more books, what are you onabout?
Speaking of books.....can I offer you a book in this trying time?
My experience with 4e: Okay, my turn starts and I'm glued to the floor by like six different effects, and I'm on fire.
@@MightySchoop Sounds like you were dealing with a bad DM.
I built my own system based on 4E, but one of the things I absolutely insisted on was that it wouldn't be rife with a bunch of temporary constantly changing bonuses to attack and defenses because of just how much that ruined everyone's game experience.
Of course, 4 revisions deep and now there's a bunch of them anyway, because apparently I have trouble with commitment.
For AD&D it should've been: Who's ready for their character to be sacri- I mean killed in the first 20 minutes?
Love the T-shirt, you truly "Linked" all the editions together.
Ayyyyy!
As someone who learned to play DND from the memes, and has never played anything but 5th edition, this vid is actually helpful
It’s funny, but not accurate.
Not really that accurate dude. I'd recommend checking out the editions yourself via [legit ways] or by checking out online resources to see a generalized breakdown of the versions
1st and 2nd edition is TSR D&D
The others are all WotC D&D
TSR D&D is better than WotC D&D, though not everyone agrees, so what you should do is try it for yourself and see if you agree or disagree.
3.5 was pretty accurate if you have a mind to make a god 3.5 is the edition to do it. RAW i made a warlock who could do 216 damage a round lvl 1 (it took 5 rounds of combat building up from 36 at round 1 to get up to that lvl of damage but still)
At this point I genuinely don't know how much damage my character can do it's up to 72per round per round and he can literally shoot off spells all day, now instead of it capping at a number of rounds i picked up persistent spell, each casting can last 24 hours... quick math makes it look like my character could do over a million damage a round with a full 24 to prep... we aren't even lvl 8 yet
Admittedly this is a SUPER broken character and that's not including the damage from his pet grey render zombie, his dancing blades which also dance indefinitely, or his sidekick a sentient giant wolf spider who is a caster and significantly broken as well
Obviously I would never use this level of combat prowess there is literally no situation anyone of my level shpuld need 216 damage or the 432 i got a little later by picking up twined spell like ability, and literally nobody needs to be turning out 1,036,800 damage a round....
And you don't roll for that damage that's automatic and with surrounding and grappling rules they are near automatic hits
3.5 is the edition to become gods in and despite how breakable the characters are they are also breakable, like this character has nearly died twice (mostly because I rushed to get my damage up and prioritized getting damage on the field and shaping the combat (the spell used also shapes combat, earthen grasp and the spider uses them to spray a web wall it's great) instead if getting his defenses up)
Very funny take that everyone always thought in the back of their mind. Would love to see more about the sneaky snake druid :)
Sneaky Snake will be making a return soon!
@@OneShotQuesters I hope we haven't seen the last of the gents either! I know you got a little burned out on the outro, but I think the real gold of those shorts is the rapid-fire sharp dialogue that perfectly encapsulates player and DM emotions, expressed painfully candidly with that sort of Monty Python irreverence. I love those chaps
@@OneShotQuesters what about Artificer?
DnD 6th edition: “we've removed the option to make your character/monster Evil as not to offend anyone.”
Alright - pedantic old Wizard time. What we now call '1st Edition' is actually the retronym given to AD&D. The actual original edition from '74 we now call OD&D... which was followed by the Holmes Basic, then AD&D (1st Ed) followed by two more Basic editions (Moldvay aka B/X, and Mentzer aka BECMI). Then we had 2nd Ed AD&D, then WoTC took over with 3rd, 3.5, 5th, etc...
Also - your example of someone playing AD&D should have gone more like this - Devil Worship... who's ready to die in 20 minutes... OMG THIS IS THE BEST VERSION EVER AND NO ONE CAN TELL ME DIFFERENT! 😁
I love 2nd ed AD&D! I created my first campaign world in 2nd. And I actually miss having THAC0 in the later editions.
@@lisamarie06 I just loved all the bonkers splat books.
Oh, and Baldur's Gate I & II use 2nd ed. IIRC it was a lot closer to core rules before Beam Dog.
@@lisamarie06 Ah yes, Baldur's Gate. I played the hell out of those games back in the day. Good times. 🤩
Ngl, I kinda like 4e's design. There were sooo many great ideas in it! Nowadays, people seem to slowly be shifting back to those ways by unknowingly homebrewing 4e like mechanics with a little crunch. That, or PF 2e.
Definitely not an uncommon opinion for some people to say that a PF 2e is a spiritual successor to D&D 4e. Of course, certain other people seem to get real annoyed when you say that..
Yep. Everyone hated 4e but if you just give them 4e innovations with "totally not 4e, honest" stamped on it, they really like it.
4e responded effectively to some flaws in the various 3rd editions. And it incorporated the "we don't need rules to pretend to be an elf so instead of non combat rules here's some Dungeon Master's Manual advice on encourating everyone to behave like an adult at the gaming table" perspective for non combat scenarios, which is honestly what most people use in real life no matter the edition.
The most ironic thing about the edition wars stuff is that the most valid criticism of 4e never gets made, which is that its just kind of too hard for a lot of people to play. It assumes combat should be a challenging affair with tactical depth where you win if you make good decisions and lose if you make bad decisions, and a lot of tables are just too casual for that. That's the problem you actually experienced at the table with 4e.
@@patrickhickey4047 Yes, some valid criticism of 4e!
The difficulty of combat is a REAL issue with 4e. There's so much you need to know as a player before you can actually participate in combat. It's a great system if everyone knows it, but getting to that point is non-trivial. Even then, though, every combat takes ages to play through. There are no quick-n-easy fights.
Other criticisms: the bloat and errata. 3.5 had even more bloat, but because 4e frontloaded so many of the choices in character creation, I would see players bogging down before we could even start playing. The progression - The default progression in the game is roughly 10 normal combats (or equivalents) per level. Normal combats that can take 2-4 hours for even a seasoned group. There are 30 levels. Playing at that pace makes the game feel utterly stagnant.
I say this as a guy who would play/DM 4e in a heartbeat if I could find some experienced and/or enthusiastic players for it. The system really lends itself to super-creative builds and over-the-top animeesque action that I haven't really experienced in 5e, but it has its issues as-written.
People like to shit on 4e, but it has always been the easiest edition to teach to new players. You don't have to explain spell slots. You don't have to look through a massive list of shared spells. Preparing spells isn't a thing. You can relate almost everything to a videogame, and that makes it much easier for most new people to grasp. Plus, the closest thing to a warlord in 5th edition is a Feat, and that's fucking sad.
@@FredrickTesla With how much Warlord is loved you'd think there would be a version of it in PF2e and 5e
This is so much fun to watch 🙂
I want more videos like this...
Keep up the good work ☺️
I'm going to Throw it back ☺️
4e had plenty of mechanics for out of combat encounters. It's just that those mechanics are explained once, and the combat powers take up most of the books, confusing serious players of past editions who didn't bother actually reading anything.
Skill Challenges was an amazing system, not perfect at the start, but once errated, it was great.
yep. 4e has a lot more then just combat. and heck there is a reason to play non casters. 3.5 non casters were glorified meat shields, 5e classes like paladin does everything fights can but better.
Same for 5e, so I don't understand the hatred for 4e but the obsession with 5e. None of the D&D editions support roleplaying because the game itself is a war game, NOT an RPG. It's considered RPG ONLY because there are classes in the game. But there's no actual roleplaying involved whatsoever. By default, social encounters do NOT exist in D&D, because there have never been any written rules to allow them at all. It is up to the DM entirely, which is truly pathetic. If the book is guidelines, then why not guide DMs to use social encounters?
@@nyxnightmare3542 That's not entirely true. Both 4th and 5th editions have rules for social encounters, including awarding XP for completing them, but mainstream 5th edition tends to ignore these rules in favor of improv comedy/roleplay. That's why social skills exist, for instance. Treating the rules as guidelines actually hampers roleplaying in this case because people prefer not to use those mechanics since they feel it limits the fun.
For 4E, non-combat lived by the rule of "less is more." Having mechanics for narrative interactions just slows the game down.
As an avid 4E player, I agreed with that take, but weirdly, many of the people who still run 4E seem to try and use as much of the 4E non-combat rules as possible, and inevitably it makes things worse than just relying on fiat.
That being said, I do understand how people might feel like 4E's approach breaks suspension of disbelief; there's such a "Gameplay and Story Segregation"-y aspect to it, because of how precisely defined combat is and how everything else isn't that if you're not the kind of person that doesn't go for that, it's understandable why you might think 4E doesn't serve you well.
As it comes to D&D systems, 4th edition is still my favorite.
4E introduces at-will powers (the equivalent of cantrips for every class), and every class gets a variety of selectable powers.
Features an extremely balanced class and combat systems, makes it so you (probably) won't die in the first hour of playing.
I know 4E gets a lot of rag from most D&D players who haven't even given it a chance.
Having played it for about a year circa 2009 or so...I'm glad I discovered Pathfinder.
4e had a lot of good ideas. It also had a lot of bad ideas and unfortunately (at least for my group) those outweighed the good ones. But we're quite happy with pathfinder 2e which does take a lot from 4e.
4e has some great ideas but as someone who played it for 3 years Im never playing it again, I will take stuff like abilities that trigger on bloodied and other mechanics I like and use them in 5e or maybe try pathfinder. My main problem is it felt like you chose a subclass and that was your choice for your character sure you could as a dex ranger take that ability that can only be used with strength and due to having the other subclass is also just fundamentally weaker but you shouldn't and won't
4th edition can be a great game
the reason people get so up in arms about it...
...is that said game is very much *not* D&D.
4th edition is a World of Warcraft ttrpg set in the Forgotten Realms. It's Diablo at Baldur's Gate.
4th edition is a videogame you play on pen and paper.
@@Darasilverdragon I'm still rather lost as to why people say it's so different. Less complicated, sure, but I'm not understanding what parts of DnD are missing from 4e. The only things I can tell that are missing are spell slots, shared spells lists, and preparation spell classes. what's missing that isn't related to spells?
"or homebrew it so much, that it's not even D&D anymore?"
This seems like a good time to remind people that There. Are. Other. Systems.
Do you want to be laying down machine gun fire for your hacker while your magic user zaps orks working for a dragon? Shadowrun.
Do you want pure Cyberpunk? Well there is the TTRPG literally named Cyberpunk.
Do you want to play in Dresden files? There is literally a system for that.
Do you want to play with magic and six shooters out west? Deadlands.
Want to send paper thin, paper durable characters to investigate Eldritch cults in the 1920's? Call of Cthulu.
Want a lightsaber? There is an official Star Wars sysstem for TTRPG.
you forgot GURPS :p
You say there are other systems. YOU ARE WRONG.
Want to play sci-fi fantasy? Warhammer 40k systems. There's like 7 of them or something.
@@SollowP But I really don't want to promote GW, greedier than dragons.
On the other hand, D&D as a mechanics system is extremely good, so homebrewing items, feats, races, etc. on top of it is often a better approach than switching to a totally different system.
I really felt the AD&D bit.
One friend who played for a short time was a Mormon, and insisted we keep the player's handbook face down so he wouldn't have to see the demonic idol art.
Another friend's uncle was on the "D&D will lead you to devil worship!!" train and tried to take away the books and minis my friend had so they could be properly burned.
0:54 So this is why Kotor is so much fun.
So anyway i started lightnin XD
I'll have you know my AD&D 2nd ed players survived for 30 MINUTES, thank you!
Mine survived a whole session... I was taken prisoner and kept in a cell
check out the podcast Red Handed, they did an episode on the santanic panic, I had no idea how serious it was!! very informative and gave context for the judgement from church
4e is definitely the most underrated D&D format. I had a blast playing it with friends back when it was new
Great video One Shot, keep it up!
4 ed...
I started with 4ed, we only did combat, combat lasted for 4 hours... my friends argued for half the time about what the rules meant. Fun times.
I'm playing 5e and it's pretty much the same, except maybe we don't argue. Well we do, but we are engineers so it's a good sign.
4E feels like it was made to be implemented with a virtual tabletop framework.
It can still be sluggish (most of all because the "OH I FORGOT MY +2 BONUS TO HIT WHEN-" conditional effects), but using a Maptool or roll20 framework can help with some of those things.
So basically your typical miniatures game.
With MMO combat.
@@Taliesyn42 BETTER typical miniatures game you mean!
I played 4e when I was at school; it ended with the Cleric bludgeoning the Rogue to death because the Rogue player was an irritating rules-lawyer try-hard who annoyed the entire group (note for future reference: Never annoy the Cleric, especially when she has the highest comabt ability in the entire party!)
Fun fact: the first time I ever played D&D was with a group of friends back in college. I joined mid-campaign, and only got to play a few sessions before the semester ended, and then had a falling out with that group before we could start up again. I was so new I didn't even know there were multiple editions. Now, more than 10 years later, I came across my character sheet from that campaign and showed it to my brother, who is an experienced DM. From that character sheet and my vague memories we figured out I am the only living person he knows who has played 4th Edition!
based on the memes, i thought 4th Edition was just some books, dusty dice, and the wind whistling through an empty canyon nearby
I wasn't addicted to dice till this edition. I had three sets during my 3.5/3.75 years.
I used to play Shadowrun. You should SEE my six-sider collection.
@@Taliesyn42 I had friends who played Warhammer. I have an idea.
dice are life. dice are love.
No one talks about 4th edition it's like the fight club of the dnd editions
Forget 6th edition we're just gonna continue to edit the hell out of 5th edition to the end of time
I'll never understand the hatred towards 4th edition. First, as a DM from 2nd Ed. To current day, 4th was probably the easiest to put encounters together for a DM. Second, literally any table top gaming system is as role-playing heavy as the group makes it. I ran many a heavy role playing games in every edition of DnD, not to mention Star Wars, White Wolf, and many other systems.
To each their own, though!
I think it comes down to the game wanting to be both a TTRPG and a skirmish miniature wargame... It ended up doing neither very well..
@@tawesssoabbox Nah, people just didn’t give it a chance. I played it with some 3.5e friends and we all had a blast.
@@tawesssoabbox It did both very well... if you knew what you were doing.
And while many people have venerated the 4E DMG as being the best DMG, I'm not really convinced that the system was good at guiding people in doing both right.
In particular, I think that 4E would have been better if it focused MORE on the skirmish miniature wargame aspect mechanically, but also focused more on non-skirmishes narratively. 4E's non-combat rules tended to be pretty light, but they were still there, and I think they'd be better off not having been there at all and more handled by fiat.
I say all this because that's basically how my 4E play experience played out. But that experience wasn't necessarily typical.
@@Theycallmetomu I think you'd also find that players _like_ having rules for non-combat situations. If you can do everything, why bother doing anything? There are Rules-lite systems out there, but that's not what people go to D&D for. I played 4e for about a year, and it ended up driving me to Pathfinder mostly _because_ of the sparse rules for non-combat.
Also gotta say, ease-of-DMing doesn't mean players are gonna enjoy it.
4e was an amazing tactical simulator, but not good at much else.
@@seantheimp I certainly concede that "I play this rules light game for everything but combat, then fuse 4E on top of it" is the way to go.
Seeing as how that's what I did to create my own system!
3.5e: "Guys, look at our amazingly in depth lore! It's almost as if the world is alive and this will help you better understand it!"
5e: "So, you know all that lore we made before? We burned it. Firbolgs are Fae now. Yep. Not Giants, like they actually are. Also, Eladrin are just Elves. Not Fae, like they actually are. Don't worry, Humans are still the best race because we discriminate against every other race."
It depends. I play in 3 campaigns, all of them 5e. In two of them, Eladrin are commonly called Fae Elves. In 2 of them (one of them being the same as one of the campaigns previously mentioned) humans are decent. In the remaining set of 2, we haven't encountered ANY firbolgs yet. According to my undestanding of 5e lore, Firbolgs are a group of giants who spent multiple generations in the feywild (& thus have taken on some fae traits).
Baldur’s Gate was one of my first D&D video games in the late 90’s, then I finally got to start playing D&D in high school shortly after 3e released. Idk if I just love 3/3.5 the most because it was my first editions or not, but what he said about 5e is definitely true. Just like with video games and their mods now, 5e is just homebrewed so much it doesn’t even feel like the same game anymore. I don’t even know what they could possibly do with 6e because players will just homebrew it to death as well.
I started in 3.5 so it's not just nostalgia to say: I actually really enjoyed 4e. Probably my least popular D&D opinion.
I really think 4th edition was the best designed edition of D&D. For sure.
That said...I think that was actually a problem for a D&D customer base that was used to homebrewing all the problems out of the game...
I loved my 4th edition char ^^
From what I've heard 4e was basically DnD: Combat Edition. I'm trying to find some 4e books to yoink cool monster abilities for my 5e games. Because 5e is fun and easy to mod.
I liked 4th, buy then again I basically skipped from adnd straight to 4th so yeah
I started in 3.5 and really liked 4th as well. It felt the most balanced and I loved the different roles. I used an online gametable even in person so keeping track of effects was easy.
The Heroic Tier was a lot of fun, but yeah, once we got to the Paragon Tier, even basic fights started taking a long time because the damage wasn’t big enough for the amount of HP people had. I never got to see how the Epic tier was.
Ad-barian and the wall....
The best running skit so far
You are hilarious in all you do
I love it
Keep it up 😁❤️
for 4th edition you should have had all the players playing pathfinder with a GM instead of a DM for realism.
Oww my soul.
THATS IT!!!
YOU ARE OFFICIALLY CALLED BARD-BARIAN!!!
Bard: Um Actually? that was pretty good.
Fighter: well I mean he does have nice footwork. Not sure how useful it would be in combat though..
Wizard: can I stop casting dancing lights now?
Rogue: No way dude this is totally working Look at the gold we're getting!?
Druid: I hate you and your love of Furs...
paladin: HEY YOU THERE!! STOP THROWING FRUIT OR SO HELP ME I WILL SMITE YOU!!
Sorceror: Now that I think about it, Maybe I shouldn't Use Charm on Party members....
Warlock: Cathulu give me strength, I'm surounded by idiots..
Cleric: sighs, well at least it will be easier to get diamonds for when I have to res these idiots....
Ranger: IS THAT MY BEARS SKIN???
Alchemist: Perhaps that was a Bit Too Much Drink root...
Monk: Can i Punch Him now?
Party: NO!
Monk: awe...
I've heard someone who started with fourth end up tearing into it despite actively trying to remember the good times with it.
0:48 YOOOO TAHT'S MY DICE
I unironically love 4th it is my favorite to DM and perhaps my second to play next to 2nd/AD&D Hybrid. It breaks my heart no one sees the good that 4th has to offer. What little I've dabble in 5th has been completely unfulfilling.
Second edition will always rule supreme
You just made me scream-laugh at 1:30 in the morning, Duke. How could you, Duke?
I like 5th Edition's Divine Soul background for Sorcerer, but my personal favorite is 3rd Edition as I experienced it in Neverwinter Nights: Enhanced Edition, because a Pixie familiar was really useful for my Wizard.
You know, some friends of mine once told me about how, in this Discord server I'm in, before using 5e, they used what they simply liked to call, "primal D&D," where, it'd be mostly roleplay, and whenever someone wanted to attempt to do something a little out of the ordinary, they'd roll a straight D20, and the result would decide whether or not they could do it. What I find to be funny about this is that, in the very first two editions of D&D, dice didn't even EXIST, meaning that their, "primal," way, despite being very simplistic, still used dice that wouldn't be implemented until 3rd edition at SOONEST. Thinking about that reminded me of this video, so I thought I might as well make a comment about what I was thinking about here. Hope you enjoyed reading this!
Why do I feel like, come next April Fools, instead of Dee Dee at the end credits, we’ll see a dancing wall?
*Writes that down*
Because, sir, you are a genius.
Love your videos bro!
Should have ended the 4th edition with "I'm gonna play pathfinder, wanna join?"
D&D community: hahah! No one plays 4th edition
Mage the ascension: Ahah-AHAHAHAHAHAH! I know how it feels
I love watching your ads. You actually do something with it instead of just saying "here's an ad, it's an ad, nothing else"
I find it funny that Adbarian is getting Nat 1 Hat Performance every time he throws the hat to wear it.
First edition AD&D man, that's no joke. We used to have to homebrew some rules to prevent constant 1st-2nd level TPKs, namely at first level you add your CON score to your HP instead of your CON bonus, and even then players are hoping and praying they don't encounter enemies with ability drain or who have spell like abilities that give you the old "save vs death or die", and by the time the party has enough money to afford to bring dead members back to life, the enemies suddenly eat their brains, disintegrate them, or other unpleasant things that require a WISH to bring someone back from.
Lol the end "they sent me a box of bleep" lol
When your ads are so long that they take up half the sketch O.o
Huh, didn't realize the D20 has only been central to the game since 3e. How did it work in the old days?
The D20 system was standard in AD&D. I believe it was an option in the OD&D but has been a mainstay for quite a few Tabletop RPG’s
AD&D differed in that it used THACO (To Hit Armor Class 0)
@@verdantgrottobarbell5279 I have heard about THAC0, and get the impression it unnecessarily overcomplicated everything. I haven't seen many people who seem to miss it
1:52 when Ad-barian rolls a nat 20 in performance
Old 5e: Ehh dw about it being busted
New 5e: Yo we added 8 new subclasses that can all drop 87 nukes as a bonus action
agreed 3.5 is best^^
XD I played during 3.5... and when 4th edition came out my friends were so excited they went and bought the books... but we never got more than an hour into a campaign and they sold the books.
Well, to be honest, if you just didn't mind players beeing bullshit overpowered with /some/ builds (or just by playing wizard :P) and milion of splatbooks to keep track on, 3.5 was indeed a blast to play.
Agreed. We just used feats and prestige classes from a selection of splat books and enjoyed ourselves.
3.5 allowed you to become an Illithid officially. It was through one of its endless amount of books, where you basically transform over time. Iirc you could also be vampire this way, and Lycan too, but I could be wrong.
Honestly, 3.5 had better character options because of the books. It definitely is way too much to use all at once, but if you use a few you can easily get unique characters. In 5e, all races are the same now that stat increases no longer exist, and even when they did you only got positives, so your characters are instantly gods just from level 1 since they can't have negative stats anyway. It's truly depressing seeing all the personality from the races being gutted in 5e for literally no reason. A Tiefling should be a Tiefling, not an Orc, and an Orc should be an Orc, not a Gnome.
If I had the mental capability of learning 3.5s combat system, I would never play 5e again. But because 5e has far less math and is the least complicated system ever, I stick with it. It's the worst for character building and lore since lore no longer exists in the franchise, but it's the only one I can play at all.
@@nyxnightmare3542 Rule 0: Play the way you want. The books are only guidelines.
Don't want to be gods? Use one of the million dice roll systems which give you under point buy equivalent.
Want to stick to the old racial bonuses? Do it. I do.
Want to run a game with more focus on racism, for some reason. Then run the game that way.
5e is the best because you can tinker with any part of it and not break Anything. I tried playing Pathfinder: Kingmaker and hated it because even when fully digitised I feel like I should be reading a guide on how to build my character instead of just having fun.
@@nyxnightmare3542 I think door to playing as Illithid were alredy opened in 3.0. DM manual listed them as one of playable moster races, with hefty level adjustemnt ofc (+8 IIRC).
And also, as pointed - books are always just base format, a guidline how the game should be played in eyes of the authors. If you don't like some of it's aspects, try some homemade rules.
@@nyxnightmare3542 I mean, it’s pretty easy to just use a lot of the 3.5 lore but with the 5e system.
Adbarian is having far too much fun with the wall. And I'm all here for it
Alternative 4e: Do you like combat? I sure hope so because you're about to spend the next 6 hours fighting a small band of goblins. Enjoy!
Really depends on at what point during 4E's run you're talking about.
But 2 hours? Definitely at least 2 hours.
The first time I ever played d&d was a little over a year ago I'm not sure what edition that was but the DM decided that he was going to kill all character is in a cutscene and we had no chance of interaction no chance of saving roles and we had to make new characters immediately just to play the next game
Damn, you encountered a railroader DM. That sucks. :/ I *really* recommend not playing with that DM anymore, ever. What they did was the exact opposite of what a DM *should* do. I'm sorry you had to experience that. D&D is actually a really fun game, as long as both the DM and the other players understand how to properly play it.
@@terraristit3752 hey man it's cool it was my first d&d campaign maybe not the best way to learn but I learned that I shouldn't play with that kind of DM speaking of which the whole group had such a terrible time that we never even got back together to play another campaign .
It seems that the Overlord series is based heavily on the 3.5 edition. Kinda explains why the main character is basically God.
I started watching D&D content on RUclips during Covid, and during all that time I still have yet to find out what the heck went down in 4th edition. Everyone is just too scarred to talk about it lol
4th had a major problem with presentation. It used very gamist language rather than natural language and a lot of people didn't like that martial classes could be as effective as spellcasters. 4th was the most robust of any edition for role play and non-combat encounter support, but they presented it very combat first. The combat rules were really good, but weren't laid out well which lead to a lot of really boring encounters run by new refs. Along with that Pathfinder really marketed against it, so most people just see the bad faith memes. What you'll see every person who actually has a good experience with 4th edition say is that all the homebrew fixes people do for 5th edition is to just make it 4th edition with better language
The books were REALLY EXPENSIVE.
The books really sucked.
The content really sucked.
There were more really expensive books.
They sucked too.
Many ppl bought the shitty expensive books.
All of them were shitty.
The game was pretty shitty. Ppl could mostly only remember how much $ they spent on shitty expensive books but remnants of how bad the game was left a shitty taste in their mouth. Those are the people that will pre-order 5.5 or 6e ... whichever comes first.
@@kevingumfory what an uninformed opinion
Petition to give adbarian a buddy: pal-ad-in
Makes a joke about 5th edition home brews...proceeds to a sponsor about a 5th edition "homebrew", love it!
From how it looks now, it's almost guaranteed that next edition will not be 6.
With how they revised races, it's heading up to dnd 5.5e.
6e will be saved until there will be major dnd revisions.
Funny enough, a LOT of new 5e players seem to move down to Pathfinder 1e for the familiar style of system and the extra crunch. DnD 3.5 is hard for them to get support on, but PF is all free and open source.
@@littlekong7685 might try that in the future then, just have to find people willing to try with me.
@@Olav_Hansen Pathfinder society is a professionally GM'd group that guarantees a group to play with under clear defined rules, not free though, but well supported.
funnily enough one of the explanations that 3.5 gave for existing was to give the system a little more balance. while the overall power was increased, 3.0 still far surpassed the power scale in certain builds.
the strongest build ive ever seen was a 100% martial 3.0 build. i just cant imagine it losing to anything that isnt just infinite stats
I remember back in 3.5 I made some jacked up rogue thing that had full sneak attack 3/4 bab and 2-4 ability score bonuses added to absolutely everything. So because of that he never spent any money until he could buy the “expensive” belt of Magnificence +6 and became a god. Oh threw in leadership and a dragon cohort the party never knew about for funsies
Hey tim
That's why my dnd group mixes a little from 3.5 and pathfinder.
Adbarian needs to fight an ad blocking firewall at some point xD
Best one in a while, loved it!
ALL ON POINT !!! As a Gen X'er who has played all edtions. This is the GODS honest truth about D&D. But I still love it and still play it ;)
I want to see a 1st edition vs 5th edition monk video.
Keep it up duke!
Oof, I was not prepared for how hard this would hit.
Well played.
I've NEVER EVER met any player who had only one D20... Rarely only two. I started to play with the Blue basic D&D Box Set. Still play.
I already said this in a different comment section But my friend Rolled a NAT 20 on banging his head on the floor to get healed and then he hits a pirate in the balls with a plank of wood.
That home brew line about 5th edition hits home. As a DM, the amount of times I’ve just made shit up and gotten away with it is obscene.
It honestly does for me too but in a different way. Its gotten so bad to the point where when I do make an actual ruling from the PHB as a DM my players argue about it and say its super unfair despite it affecting both players and monsters...So then one of them becomes the new DM and showers them with items while running Icewind Dale and they think he is the best thing since sliced bread as they all skip through the game while he has to make up stuff like "The monster uses his legendary resistance to totally negate one of your Gunslinger Fighter's 3 attacks that do 30+ dmg but teleports away still because you used the wild sorcerers magical bullet he made out of chardalyn to get out of line of sight and harass these people upstairs who are now surprised since it had line of sight through a hole in the ceiling of the room your in"
Is 3.5 Pathfinder is still my favorite format It's so easy to work with and you can do so many different things with it. My friends and I were able to play pokemon campaign We did it in honor of the X and Y video games coming out It was a lot of fun I ended up making it to the elite 4 My percentage dice was really high when I rolled for my starter because we did random starters that weren't the original normal pokemon And I got a shiny poochyena I named her whiskey, And in honor of her every single one I ever caught many of the games ever since then is what I've named that pokemon especially if it's shiny
Damn, man. I sure love Wall. Best Character along with Ad-barian.
I see Adbarian multiclassed into bard
I recently converted my 3.5 character to 5th. It got nerfed bad. I miss 3.5.
Try Pathfinder 1e, still very much an active system with an active community. I know a LOT of players that started on dnd 5e and have ironically moved to PF1e for the crunch and the content.
Adbarian just really loves having a fancy wall and I'm just happy for him. Kinda wish I had a fancy wall.
"Hey, Tim."
"Hey, Bob." 🤣🤣🤣
4th gets the most hate, but it's the edition that I want to try the most. In my opinion it has one of the coolest combat systems of all the editions. And I would say it actually had much more mechanical support for out of combat than 5e does, which is to say any at all.
Not wrong, 3.5 literally *is* the 'we are gods' edition.
Honestly, I stand on the point that with everything they want to introduce and rework, they should just create 5.5 for the new rules and such, it wouldn't be that far off of a stretch and they could actuslly try and fix their CR system potentially
I feel like at some point you need to greenscreen the wall and add either the ad read, or graphics behind you during the ad read.
5th edition is basically easy rules of 3.5, that is easy to homebrew to 'fix' the game how you want. Really think 5e is possible to be the most balanced edition while still having alot of the greater loved features from previous editions. Buy yeah some fixes are necessary like to poison and subclass features. A few spells are wonky or op, but fixable
I recently got dnd and I’m exited to play it! My characters a changling that looks like a half elf cleric
wow dice very hype
The accurate prediction of the new "D&D One" aka 6th edition is great.
0:54 Why must you attack me like this?
Me:The gods across all realms shall fear me!
Friends:Why?
Me:For I have the mythical Flaming Lug wrench!
i recently joined a 3.5 game for the first time and it is very different from 5e and im tons of fun.
3.5 has a lot of really cool stuff and with all the development it received, as well as experience people have in running it, it's damn rewarding.
Pathfinder 1e is considered the ultimate "refinement" of 3.5, but it is part of a very different setting.