Exactly and the custody issues started before Willow was born and long time before he even met Holly. Holly escalated the situation, but it's likely he would've done something like this even if there was no Holly.
His mother referring to him like hes so kind and so gentle is just weird. I mean she does know that he viciously murdered the mother of his child right? Her trying to excuse him by saying that he was just so in love with his child is vile as well. He killed her mother. That is not something you do to someone you love.
Did his mother ever say the word grandchild? It's like her son is in jail and now Willow no longer exists. That seems odd to me I get her still loving her son though. She knows he did this and she's ashamed of him for that and herself. She didn't say it but I saw that look at one point of "i raised a murderer". It was there when she was talking about when he told her he did it.
What can his mother do really??She is in her own hell and can’t believe her child did this…his hands took the life of a human being…she can’t disown her son…what kind of mother would she be if she didn’t love him through it? I can’t understand why she supported her son in seeking full custody when Alyssa was not an unfit mother and yet the woman she believed in and became tight friends with is the woman who put her son in a position to become a murderer..the sad irony!
Ugliness doesn't make anyone evil and conventionally attractive people can often be terrible. In fact, it's easier for them to be awful because people get distracted by the pretty. People who know that they would have been manipulated by the pretty evil person are the only ones who say, after the fact, "she wasn't even that pretty." 🙄
@@tarantellalarouge7632 His mother is the reason he ended up like this. Only a vain person like her would see a prospective daughter-in-law in the likes of Holly Elkins. He was so used to being manipulated by his foolish mom that there was no way he could resist an equally manipulative girlfriend in the shape of evil Ms Elkins. The only reason the mother is now shooting off her mouth non-stop is to silence her conscience. She gives me this horrid Melody Farris vibe.
Notice how the mom says terrible things about her son's girlfriend but doesn't say the same of her own son. The man visciously stabs the mother of his child in a fit of rage and anger but his mommy only blames one person. No wonder he's the way he is.
@@saltycat662 yeah, just the fact that he went back with a hunting knife to take care of the job is insane. That it's not a slip in character. He was born a monster. It just took this to bring it out.
Did they just see a picture of her eating a turgey leg one time and say “she loved eating turkey legs at the state fair”? Surely that wasnt a big part of her personality
They add these ridiculous random remarks alll the time in these videos. Like, WTF, out of all the things you could have said about this young woman and how she lived her life, you boil her down to THAT? Yuck.🤢🤦🏻♀️
They could have called 911 right away instead of waiting , like a bunch of idiots, but nope waits until after the effect, then calls ... Gee , she could have been saved , if the ppl in the office had a brain..
That she can sit there and say he's warm and loving, that he wanted to show Willow the world, while he always only wanted to take Willow away from her own mother and finally just did so is so nasty. You know exactly where that guy got his narcissism.
@@phillipsmom6252 yes me too,he is probably some control freak with his creepy,plastic girlfriend.And he would probably get bored of the kid after a few weeks
@@jwil2414 Any good father wouldn't mind sharing custody with the mother of his child. Any father who demands sole custody and sets the mother up for a criminal offence is not a good father.
He's a monster but he was also weak as hell. He was manipulated by that fake Instagram-model-wanna-be-she-devil. The victim's family said things were going well until it didn't. Enter she-devil
Andrew's mom is in complete denial defending her son, not realising she raised a monster, gross!! And Holly standing by Andrew makes things worse, I guess birds of the same flock fly together, UGH! Thank goodness the evil monster and the femme fatale are now behind bars, paying for their sins and answering for their crimes against Alyssa!
exactly!!!!!!!! that was not a heinous out of passion moment he was literally stalking her. this guy literally prank called the police. i cried on this episode
@@caramileelliott1719 it was more about deceiving police as to the most basic details of the murderer's identity... thereby ruling himself out. Andrew didn't go out of his way to frame an actual black individual, which he could have tried to do. It's like Sheldon Johnson wearing a wig when he was moving in and out of his victim's apartment... he was trying to pass as a woman to throw off investigators. He wasn't really trying to frame a woman for what he did. There is a difference. It's 100% NOT a hate crime.
Operating from his “core” and “love”? His mother is delusional to say the least. Listening to her made my blood boil. Your son is not only a monster, but an absolute idiot for thinking he would get away with this.
I am so glad others feel this way. I was a bit appalled that no one tried to help Alyssa during the attack, but watched through the windows of the apartment building!! She is with Jesus now.
This is an argument for licensed conceal & carry. Protection from a maniac- or to protect a coworker from a maniac! I was stunned hearing that no one helped.
Right, and it's not like he fired that one shot in a heated moment he then regretted - the way he chased her down and attacked her was monstrous and very intentional.
They should make a show called “When Hook-up Culture Goes Wrong.” I’ve seen or read about soooo many dating app flings that led to tragedies like this one. And that’s what happens when people value quick, cheap intimacy over solid relationships developed properly over time.
If he was a female you would say he was! That man manipulated that poor helpless girl. haha For once a partner in crime woman got sentenced like a male criminal!
@johnsmith-ug5tp no I would not. Andrew is not Holly's victim. If he was such a catch like his mom claimed he should have dumped Holly and found someone else. Holly is trash and deserves prison. People need to be accountable for their own choices and actions.
All of those pictures of Holly perfectly posed with her tons of makeup - then the picture of the end at 38:43... yikes, I about fell out of my chair. That's the picture of the real her.
Not just holly! 95% of women with their tacky narcissistic selfie photos to the same thing! Reminds me of the great song from Alexander O'Neil from 1987. "Fake" Ya nothing but a fake baby! And ya busted haha
they thought it was like someone shooting at everything and anyone, like those school shootings etc.. surely you would not go out there too not knowing. Ask 'how' when your in the situation.
That was my thought as well. I’m still watching, but it seemed like they waited until after he was done, stabbing her before they called 911? But to me, if there are multiple people inside, then, yes, multiple people go outside to help.
Mom: "he's not that dumb" "It was just a bad moment" He was in fact that dumb and it wasn't a moment. It was an elaborate plan he went along with. At any time he could have said no.
@@KiKi519_ Fear is an irrational emotion. From the time of the shot, and the stabbing, it was all over in less than 60 seconds. Why is no one mentioning the apt maintenance guy that was only 15 ft away outside? Again, 90% of people would be frozen in fear and do nothing.
Why the ***co workers*** didn't call when they heard the gun shot knowing she was in trouble or someone was in trouble? They wait until ***AFTER THE EVIL MONSTER LEFT!***
Having sex with a fling from a dating app… not judging her because she’s barely an adult but HIM!! He’s a predator. What business does a 31 yo have with a 22 yo?!
So sad to know nobody opened their doors to help her. Did anybody called for help during the 1st attack? If someone did, maybe Alyssa could be saved from stabbing 💔
I knew it! Holly has an evil look about her. I think she was also jealous because Alyssa was prettier than her and a lovely person. Two things Holly definitely is not.
Mother is the root of it. Never held him accountable and enables him which gives her certain control over him, which is why he wanted the child - to have control over Alyssa. It's a very common dynamic. Misogynistic mothers can't raise proper men. Hence why he found Holly, another lunatic manipulating him.
For Alyssa to die that way is brutal and so personal . . . he would have harmed her in some way or another down the line. His obsession with sole custody of the child was just too great even before Holly came into their lives, she just ignited that flame of rage
He was obsessed with full custody because of the girlfriend! There are texts where Holly tells him she isn't going to be serious about them if he doesn't prove it and I know she was behind it
@Naturefan354 Did you not see the part where they say he asked Alyssa for full custody while she was still pregnant. I was like what!? 😳 The "girlfriend" wasn't even in the picture then and that was my point
@@TessedineM Ya I personally think her friend is full of it. I don't believe he asked her that while she was still pregnant, unless he was seeing Holly while Alyssa was pregnant? Then that's the only way that makes sense to me
@@Naturefan354 Well as purported, Holly came along when Willow was already born and then became obsessed with the child and that family picturesque life and wanted Alyssa out of the picture. I agree with you that he did it to some degree to appease his girlfriend but my point is that he was already in conflict with Alyssa before she came along. Also, he physically committed the crime alone and could have stopped at any point if he wanted to
I can't believe his girlfriend got more prison time than him. Andrew made the decision to kill Alyssa with his own hamds. Both should have gotten the same amount of prison time. There is so much evil, controlling people in this world. Both are bad seeds.
Holly got more time because she instigated the killing, & then made them all go through a trial. If she had admitted to her involvement, & took a plea agreement, she probably would have received less time than he did. Instead she lied & gambled with her freedom...and rightfully lost.
No one tried to help, but watched instead!?😮 Unreal He had time to stab 44 times and STILL NO ONE, ANY MAN, could have grabbed him, threw a rock, run him down!?? This is a disgusting display of selfishness.
Imagine killing a woman, then trying to blame it on your new girlfriend. And it working. He was a grown man who made a decision to take the life of his daughter’s mother. What an absolute coward.
Well, if you watched the full video then you know the judge and jury believed his story and she was a conspirator. They BOTH were blame; one did the crime and the other did was the mastermind.
@@sfletch3042If that was the truth then wouldn't the father NOT want full custody? Because the father would be footing the bill full time if he got full custody especially since women never pay child support or get ordered to pay it, he wouldn't be getting any financial help from the mom if he had full custody. That literally makes no sense
There are times when the English language cannot express enough how something is. This is the most horrific and evil case I think I have come across yet. Pure evil!
The fact that her coworkers sat there and allowed her to be shot and then stabbed 44 times when she had run to them for help is just pathetic and sickening. They are cowards. I dont care if he stabbed me too. I cound NEVER have just sat there. Life is precious and yes my life is the most precious to me however i simply could NOT just sit there as another human was stabbed 44 times. That takes both tremedous effort as well as time to accomplish so they sat there for several minutes and allowed her to be stabbed to death. Its just cowardly to me to have just sat there and watched. Sorry but im not cut from that puece of cloth.
Andrew! What a wuss. To be manipulated that much , to the point of violent murder, by this woman. He deserves to be under the jail. Holly as well. Crazy woman. .
He wasn't really manipulated, they said in the video that the issues with him started during Alyssa's pregnancy and he tried to get full custody of Willow before she was even born. He was making her life hell long time before he met Holly. She definitely played a part in what happened, but given how obsessed he was with the full custody arrangement it's likely he would've done something to Alyssa even if there was no Holly. He just managed to find someone as crazy and evil as he is.
@@-notmycatOf course he was manipulated by his girlfriend. That's why he was relentlessly trying to get full custody because his girlfriend wanted them to be 1 big happy family with the mother outta the picture and yes he committed this crime on his on but i have no doubt his girlfriend was behind it
@@Naturefan354 Wrong. Did we watch the same video? He wanted full custody before Willow was even born and kept taking Alyssa to court since her birth. He met Holly months after Willow's birth and he was already in a full blown custody fight at that point. It's even said in the video that the situation calmed down when he met Holly and he was finally willing to reach an agreement. Alyssa was happy that Holly had seemingly good influence on Andrew. Holly is evil, but that custody fight and all the issues were already happening. She didn't create the situation, she helped to make it worse.
@@-notmycat Wrong. Nowhere in the video did it say he had been taking her to court over custody since birth, in fact she could have been the first one to iniate custody it in the first place. The only proof that we have that he asked her for full custody before birth is her friend saying that he did and I don't really believe that. The only way it would make sense is if Holly was in the picture when Alyssa was pregnant otherwise it doesn't even make any sense.
@@Naturefan354 Honestly I don't know what else to tell you. It's all in the video. He was pushing for full custody from the beginning and kept taking her to court over it. It's literally all in the video. You must be trolling or maybe you're his mother. She was also very quick to excuse his actions. Also why would we not trust her friend? Why would she lie about it? She has nothing to gain from it. Are we supposed to believe a man who brutally murdered the mother of his child so he could finally get the custody he so much wanted?
How the mother can say that her son was acting out of love is beyond me. You don't shoot and stab someone 40+ times unless you're an evil person. Pure evil, that poor woman.
His mom said he was such a good man. And he framed his child’s mother with drug distribution and eventually stabbed her 40 times. That’s how good her son was. The guts she has to say her son is good….. 😢
Mercy killing?! Are you kidding me? This is one of the most tragic and heartbreaking cases I’ve ever seen and I’ve seen them all! RIP beautiful Mom…Alyssa🩷
The mom is smiling like her son is some saint. AND, why wouldn't those two phychos just have their own love child? .. idk JAW FLOOR, JAW FLOOR... Disgraceful
Why don't people who're just dating casually use contraception? It's extremely irresponsible! Especially when the woman decides to have the baby and a custody battle ensues! It sounds as though they hardly knew each other. Highly unfair to the child/ children. Children born out of wedlock, I know an outdated concept and term, do not receive the same benefits, consideration, respect by government agencies as those who're born to couples that are married!
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His mom says Holly is evil to the core, yet her son just had a "moment." Please lady, you're pathetic minimizing his part!!
Agree! Ugh
Exactly and the custody issues started before Willow was born and long time before he even met Holly.
Holly escalated the situation, but it's likely he would've done something like this even if there was no Holly.
Agree.
Gurl… these CUNexTuesday’s and their sons are something else! (And before anybody has anything to say… if it don’t apply, let it fly)
@@MimiB1974. What does CUN…etc mean?
His mother referring to him like hes so kind and so gentle is just weird. I mean she does know that he viciously murdered the mother of his child right? Her trying to excuse him by saying that he was just so in love with his child is vile as well. He killed her mother. That is not something you do to someone you love.
Did his mother ever say the word grandchild? It's like her son is in jail and now Willow no longer exists. That seems odd to me I get her still loving her son though. She knows he did this and she's ashamed of him for that and herself. She didn't say it but I saw that look at one point of "i raised a murderer". It was there when she was talking about when he told her he did it.
She was low-key frightening to me
Well, where do you think he learned that he can do anything he wants?
What can his mother do really??She is in her own hell and can’t believe her child did this…his hands took the life of a human being…she can’t disown her son…what kind of mother would she be if she didn’t love him through it?
I can’t understand why she supported her son in seeking full custody when Alyssa was not an unfit mother and yet the woman she believed in and became tight friends with is the woman who put her son in a position to become a murderer..the sad irony!
Maybe when he was around the mom that’s how he presented himself. Nobody wants to believe their child is an animal
Wow. He's really stupid leaving evidence everywhere. What an idiot. And his mom and girlfriend are idiots too.
Perfect summary, couldn't agree more 😊
Agreed
I'm just going to say it, his girlfriend Holly looks like his mother. That's just weird AF.
They probably got the same plastic surgeon who made them lookalike. They both look weird.
Came here to say this if noone else did. A lot of psychological stuff to dissect here.
The Truth 💯
Came here looking for this comment. I thought the same thing. They look like Mother/Daughter or Sisters
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holly has no room to be calling anybody ugly😭
Nothing to hold her face up in prison
Yes a basic blonde vs a gorgeous brunette
Can’t compare
@@dafaq05 exactly what I thought
Amen to that!
I listened to the podcast yesterday and came here to watch just to see her face🙃
That girlfriend is a real piece of work. And she does not look half as good as she thinks she does.
Evil is ugly
Ya the mugshot she looks no better than his baby mama
Ha… for real. Could watch a drive in movie on that forehead
@@Jedi-John😂😭😂
Ugliness doesn't make anyone evil and conventionally attractive people can often be terrible. In fact, it's easier for them to be awful because people get distracted by the pretty. People who know that they would have been manipulated by the pretty evil person are the only ones who say, after the fact, "she wasn't even that pretty." 🙄
Mother is completely delusional.
Yes she is delusional but i find her courageous to come here and testify !
She just wants to see him in a different light.Not the Killer part.
@@tarantellalarouge7632 His mother is the reason he ended up like this. Only a vain person like her would see a prospective daughter-in-law in the likes of Holly Elkins. He was so used to being manipulated by his foolish mom that there was no way he could resist an equally manipulative girlfriend in the shape of evil Ms Elkins. The only reason the mother is now shooting off her mouth non-stop is to silence her conscience. She gives me this horrid Melody Farris vibe.
She even said she found Holly to be a wonderful person.
I almost burst into tears in public at the little girl asking if her mom had a phone number in heaven. I wish mine did and I'm 33.
I'm so sorry you have to miss your mom. Sending you a hug ❤️
@jessylinders thank you. I lost her when I was 30. I feel pretty alone in the world
Me too n I'm 36
@@prixprixprixyou have RUclips friends!! Not the same, I know… miss my dad every day 7 years on. I get it. I wish you peace in your heart. ❤️
I lost my mom at 26. Never gets easier!
He doesn't love the child, he wanted power over her and Alyssa
So they only had a meet up ? And then she got pregnant.
Yep… anyone who truly loved their child wouldn’t purposely traumatize them
Those mugshots of Holly without makeup on, no hair extensions, and her drooping fillers elicited quite the jump-scare. Yikes.
LOL jump scare hahaha
Like 95% of these losers with their selfies! I despise all of them
@@AvecPoesie I knew she was fake af but thought she was pretty... that mugshot was scary. What was Andrew thinking!?
He did it out of love??? WTF .. his mother is delusional. 😮 Don't let that paternal grandmother near Willow!! 😢
Your son's a monster, homie.
What’s a “Monster Homie”?
Like a really big friend? 🤷🏼♂️
Notice how the mom says terrible things about her son's girlfriend but doesn't say the same of her own son. The man visciously stabs the mother of his child in a fit of rage and anger but his mommy only blames one person. No wonder he's the way he is.
@@thecorvus100 yes. But I put a comma in just for you
@@saltycat662 yeah, just the fact that he went back with a hunting knife to take care of the job is insane. That it's not a slip in character. He was born a monster. It just took this to bring it out.
@@saltycat662, yeah cos he is just as guilty as she is , but his mommy , thinks he is good as gold ... Yeah well, we all know dif..
Did they just see a picture of her eating a turgey leg one time and say “she loved eating turkey legs at the state fair”?
Surely that wasnt a big part of her personality
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that was her whole personality. She was known as the 'turkey leg eater'
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks that was a ridiculous thing to add!!!!!!!!😂
They add these ridiculous random remarks alll the time in these videos. Like, WTF, out of all the things you could have said about this young woman and how she lived her life, you boil her down to THAT? Yuck.🤢🤦🏻♀️
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Well the girlfriend was deeply involved, but Alyssa was scared of Andrew. And Andrew stabbed her more than 40 times.
AND the co-workers in the office!! I have no words for them.
Ikr...🙄
I was so upset when I heard they just stood and watched as she's being murdered. The helplessness Alyssa must have felt 😢
You would do the same. Chill
What would you have done?
They could have called 911 right away instead of waiting , like a bunch of idiots, but nope waits until after the effect, then calls ... Gee , she could have been saved , if the ppl in the office had a brain..
Holly is a whole definition of EVIL.
She’s the pure devil. What else has she done and not been caught?
Classic definition of a jezebel spirit.
Holly was jealous because Alyssa was naturally beautiful and didn’t need any fillers…
@@gem8008 yes and looked much younger too
That she can sit there and say he's warm and loving, that he wanted to show Willow the world, while he always only wanted to take Willow away from her own mother and finally just did so is so nasty. You know exactly where that guy got his narcissism.
Well...people using fillers are not all like this monster...
She wanted the baby so she didn't have to go through a pregnancy, appearance is everything to her, a toy to throw away when bored.
The audacicy of that Girl to call Allyssa ugly. mannnnn
All of the women on here are bleep! All of them looked the same!
@johnsmith-ug5tp you're an entire tool box
@@Marlaina Awww.... the truth hurts.
I find it strange that he wanted custody of that little girl so bad.
What he wanted was control. Nothing strange in that. Far too common. And don't start me on his mother!!
Any good father would want custody of his child. That wasn't the problem.
@@phillipsmom6252 yes me too,he is probably some control freak with his creepy,plastic girlfriend.And he would probably get bored of the kid after a few weeks
@@jwil2414 Any good father wouldn't mind sharing custody with the mother of his child.
Any father who demands sole custody and sets the mother up for a criminal offence is not a good father.
He's a monster but he was also weak as hell. He was manipulated by that fake Instagram-model-wanna-be-she-devil.
The victim's family said things were going well until it didn't. Enter she-devil
Andrew's mom is in complete denial defending her son, not realising she raised a monster, gross!! And Holly standing by Andrew makes things worse, I guess birds of the same flock fly together, UGH! Thank goodness the evil monster and the femme fatale are now behind bars, paying for their sins and answering for their crimes against Alyssa!
She "stood" by him to deflect any suspicion of guilt on her part to look like the naive-in--love fiancee
How sick do you have to be to impose to your child a life without their mother
And think you can get away scot-free with being the reason your child has no mother 😮
That Holly prison pic at the end speaks volumes💀
So pretty.👽
@@Shekmet13Mwa ha ha ha! 😂
The way his mother talks about him, makes me want to throw up.
That mom, and moms like her, raise criminals. Hold your children accountable. Any action a person takes is part of their character.
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Correct
exactly!!!!!!!! that was not a heinous out of passion moment he was literally stalking her. this guy literally prank called the police. i cried on this episode
Facts
Its MOTHER! we arent 8 year olds.
He was trying to frame a black man. SMH 🤦🏾♀️ 😢😢
He should have been charged for a hate crime too.
That made me so mad. Reminds me of Susan smith
I'm not surprised.
@@caramileelliott1719 it was more about deceiving police as to the most basic details of the murderer's identity... thereby ruling himself out.
Andrew didn't go out of his way to frame an actual black individual, which he could have tried to do.
It's like Sheldon Johnson wearing a wig when he was moving in and out of his victim's apartment... he was trying to pass as a woman to throw off investigators. He wasn't really trying to frame a woman for what he did.
There is a difference. It's 100% NOT a hate crime.
It's a hate crime. @@michaelcoletta4547
You can only be charged a hate crime when a person received the hate.
Operating from his “core” and “love”?
His mother is delusional to say the least. Listening to her made my blood boil. Your son is not only a monster, but an absolute idiot for thinking he would get away with this.
I think Andrew's mother and Holly (his girlfriend)are physically very similar. 😮😮
She looks like a younger version of his mom 😮
Thought the same thing.
Me too
I thought the same. But after seeing her without makeup, filler and filter…. Holly is really something on the eyes.
Barbie dolls
Damn, are we ever gonna see a mom that holds their son accountable for murdering someone? So annoying how it’s always “my precious loving boy”
I have seen it on this show. Not all moms let their sons off the hook.
My mother would have disowned me!
44 times??????? OH MY GOD
Oh your God??? I'm confused. Tell me more.
@@thomasjensen6243Did you forget your meds today?
He hated her before the new girlfriend. The new girlfriend added fuel to the fire that was already burning.
Andrews mom is so delusional and her behavior is scary.
Imagine living the rest of your life feeling like an absolute COWARD for staying inside while she is being killed.
I am so glad others feel this way. I was a bit appalled that no one tried to help Alyssa during the attack, but watched through the windows of the apartment building!!
She is with Jesus now.
Absolutely correct...when you don't believe in the 2nd amendment of the U.S. constitution....innocent people die.
What can they do with a maniac with a gun and knife she decided to be with.
This is an argument for licensed conceal & carry. Protection from a maniac- or to protect a coworker from a maniac! I was stunned hearing that no one helped.
Yeah. Her coworkers were cowards and could have saved her. Like not one person? Where’s the good guys with guns?
His mother saying "it was just a moment", after he had been stalking her, tracking her car, framing her as a drug dealer, etc, etc, for months... 💀
Right, and it's not like he fired that one shot in a heated moment he then regretted - the way he chased her down and attacked her was monstrous and very intentional.
She had beautiful eyes
They are GROSS! Makes me want to vomit!
They should make a show called “When Hook-up Culture Goes Wrong.”
I’ve seen or read about soooo many dating app flings that led to tragedies like this one. And that’s what happens when people value quick, cheap intimacy over solid relationships developed properly over time.
Even long term relationships turn but when you hook up and get pregnant by a stranger you in trouble
Andrew is not a victim.
If he was a female you would say he was! That man manipulated that poor helpless girl. haha For once a partner in crime woman got sentenced like a male criminal!
@johnsmith-ug5tp no I would not. Andrew is not Holly's victim. If he was such a catch like his mom claimed he should have dumped Holly and found someone else. Holly is trash and deserves prison. People need to be accountable for their own choices and actions.
All of those pictures of Holly perfectly posed with her tons of makeup - then the picture of the end at 38:43... yikes, I about fell out of my chair. That's the picture of the real her.
😂😂 your right
The only picture the editors of this episode should’ve used.
No need to catfish the audience with her heavily edited and filtered selfies🤣
@@yelenas2495😂😂
Not just holly! 95% of women with their tacky narcissistic selfie photos to the same thing! Reminds me of the great song from Alexander O'Neil from 1987. "Fake" Ya nothing but a fake baby! And ya busted haha
She looks like an oil painting of a Renaissance woman
How can the coworkers not help. She was banging on the windows and they left her to die.
they thought it was like someone shooting at everything and anyone, like those school shootings etc.. surely you would not go out there too not knowing. Ask 'how' when your in the situation.
So ...a person should engage a knife weilding maniac?
What and risk being shot themselves 🤦🏻♀️
what they supposed to do ,,getting out and getting hurt, by a maniac, you cant be serious .
That was my thought as well. I’m still watching, but it seemed like they waited until after he was done, stabbing her before they called 911? But to me, if there are multiple people inside, then, yes, multiple people go outside to help.
Andrew and Holly match each other in evil and psychopathy.
RIP. Alyssa.
He was hoping that she would be jealous of his new relationship. She wasn't and he didn't like that.
When Mothers defend their children, they aren't the best judge of character. They'll do anything to save them. He is a monster.
Not mine!!
She would have been the first to call the police.....
She loved eating turkey legs at state fairs ........wtf😂😂😂😂 that is a HORRIBLE description of someones personality 😅come onnnnnn
Mom was elated when son started dating a woman who looked like a younger version of herself. Yikes!
Andrew was a terrible father ! He needs to be locked up all his life. He never cared about his daughter at all, he took her mommy away what a monster.
The bra-mance between Holly and the Mom was creepy.
Andrews mom is a sociopath... So many dangerous people are Mama's Boys, but women can be dangerous too as seen here...
Mom: "he's not that dumb"
"It was just a bad moment"
He was in fact that dumb and it wasn't a moment. It was an elaborate plan he went along with. At any time he could have said no.
Imagine knowing help is behind those doors,that window ... But no one comes out !! What is wrong with people
That was my thought...maybe if she had stayed in the vehicle till he left idk he might not have followed her.
90% of people would do the same thing. Everybody is brave and rough until it happens to you.
@@johnsmith-ug5tpactually, no. None of them even called the cops until AFTER Andrew was done stabbing her and left. That is not rational.
@@KiKi519_ Fear is an irrational emotion. From the time of the shot, and the stabbing, it was all over in less than 60 seconds. Why is no one mentioning the apt maintenance guy that was only 15 ft away outside? Again, 90% of people would be frozen in fear and do nothing.
It's about time this episode came out, there were like 6 previews of this episode in the past 2 weeks!
I never watch the previews because then it’s like I watched the whole thing. No way! I gotta have the whole 41 minutes 😂😂❤❤
I'm surprised there wasn't another preview at the beginning of and during the episode.
@@rௐண yeah, no kidding!
Don't worry, they will re-upload this case over and over again for you after this.
Holly??
It amazes me how no one would help this girl. Where are all the men in this world?
Kissing each other! 👨🏻❤️💋👨🏻
The other woman, the third wheel....the cause of this tragic tale.🤬🤬🤬🤬
Poor Willow, growing up without parents... RIP Alyssa 😭💔💔💔💔
Holly would have mistreated Willow so awful if she would’ve had her.
who was the judge that kept letting him drag her to court
Why the ***co workers*** didn't call when they heard the gun shot knowing she was in trouble or someone was in trouble? They wait until ***AFTER THE EVIL MONSTER LEFT!***
Why did she choose him?
What gunshot she was stabbed
@@nikos9257did you watch the episode? She was shot then stabbed
@nikos9257 She was shot through the diver window. Then she got out to get help. He came back at her and stabbed her to death.
@@nikos9257She was shot in the car first
He operated with Love while STABBING her!!!! This mother is psychotic..
Lol right
Having sex with a fling from a dating app… not judging her because she’s barely an adult but HIM!! He’s a predator. What business does a 31 yo have with a 22 yo?!
The way his mom talks about him, makes me sick. No kind, loving man would do this to the mother of their child. ROT in hell Andrew and Holly.
Love starting my day with a full episode!
Me and you both
they just watched her get killed? so horrible
So sad to know nobody opened their doors to help her. Did anybody called for help during the 1st attack? If someone did, maybe Alyssa could be saved from stabbing 💔
They even waited till the killer left to call the police.
Despicable
I knew it! Holly has an evil look about her. I think she was also jealous because Alyssa was prettier than her and a lovely person. Two things Holly definitely is not.
"I want a real strong man"
"You need to do what I say"
Manipulation at its best.
Amazing how one never knows what turn life will take upon meeting a new person.
His fiance and his mum 🤣🤣🤣
Andrew’s mother is a piece of work. I surely hope she has NO influence over Willow.
Omg Holly’s face with no make up is terrifying 😳 Alyssa is beautiful even with no make up on. Willow will be a beautiful woman like her mother.
The only good thing to come from this is he will never get to see that baby again!
Yeah!
He probably will. He will be out in 35 years.
Willow will definitely know how special her mom was and how much she loved her. Just by watching this it’s obvious. What a tragic story.
“He’s doing the Bigfoot run from the vehicle” 😂💀
Mother is the root of it. Never held him accountable and enables him which gives her certain control over him, which is why he wanted the child - to have control over Alyssa. It's a very common dynamic. Misogynistic mothers can't raise proper men. Hence why he found Holly, another lunatic manipulating him.
If she would've played dead until he drove off and didn't immediately get out of the car she probably would've survived 😢
I was thinking the exact same thing. So heartbreaking.
He would've tried again
Her feminist childish girl power got her killed.
The coworkers thay stayed in is like wow and waited until the killers left to even call for help
For Alyssa to die that way is brutal and so personal . . . he would have harmed her in some way or another down the line. His obsession with sole custody of the child was just too great even before Holly came into their lives, she just ignited that flame of rage
He was obsessed with full custody because of the girlfriend! There are texts where Holly tells him she isn't going to be serious about them if he doesn't prove it and I know she was behind it
@Naturefan354 Did you not see the part where they say he asked Alyssa for full custody while she was still pregnant. I was like what!? 😳 The "girlfriend" wasn't even in the picture then and that was my point
@@TessedineM Ya I personally think her friend is full of it. I don't believe he asked her that while she was still pregnant, unless he was seeing Holly while Alyssa was pregnant? Then that's the only way that makes sense to me
@@Naturefan354 Well as purported, Holly came along when Willow was already born and then became obsessed with the child and that family picturesque life and wanted Alyssa out of the picture. I agree with you that he did it to some degree to appease his girlfriend but my point is that he was already in conflict with Alyssa before she came along. Also, he physically committed the crime alone and could have stopped at any point if he wanted to
I can't believe his girlfriend got more prison time than him. Andrew made the decision to kill Alyssa with his own hamds. Both should have gotten the same amount of prison time. There is so much evil, controlling people in this world. Both are bad seeds.
Holly got more time because she instigated the killing, & then made them all go through a trial. If she had admitted to her involvement, & took a plea agreement, she probably would have received less time than he did. Instead she lied & gambled with her freedom...and rightfully lost.
24 years old...so tragic
Holy moly miss hollys mug shot blew me away! Thay doesn’t look like the same person at all without all that make up!
No one tried to help, but watched instead!?😮 Unreal
He had time to stab 44 times and STILL NO ONE, ANY MAN, could have grabbed him, threw a rock, run him down!?? This is a disgusting display of selfishness.
Or called 911 right away?
Strange she didn't look under her car..that tracker was enormous! What a f sad story to a very beautiful woman!
How horrific her death must have been 😢
Imagine killing a woman, then trying to blame it on your new girlfriend. And it working. He was a grown man who made a decision to take the life of his daughter’s mother. What an absolute coward.
Well, if you watched the full video then you know the judge and jury believed his story and she was a conspirator. They BOTH were blame; one did the crime and the other did was the mastermind.
Wow... what an episode.... 😮
Cowards Cowards coworkers 😢! And shame on his mother for pretending as nothing have happened! This is heartbreaking 💔
Seems like he just didnt want to oay child support for 18 years
Exactly. After working in the legal field I can assure you 9 and a half times outta 10 that is why dad's try to get full custody.
@@sfletch3042If that was the truth then wouldn't the father NOT want full custody? Because the father would be footing the bill full time if he got full custody especially since women never pay child support or get ordered to pay it, he wouldn't be getting any financial help from the mom if he had full custody. That literally makes no sense
@@Naturefan354that is so true. Why can't you all learn? There were so many tragic stories because of child support and custody battle
There are times when the English language cannot express enough how something is. This is the most horrific and evil case I think I have come across yet. Pure evil!
The fact that her coworkers sat there and allowed her to be shot and then stabbed 44 times when she had run to them for help is just pathetic and sickening. They are cowards. I dont care if he stabbed me too. I cound NEVER have just sat there. Life is precious and yes my life is the most precious to me however i simply could NOT just sit there as another human was stabbed 44 times. That takes both tremedous effort as well as time to accomplish so they sat there for several minutes and allowed her to be stabbed to death. Its just cowardly to me to have just sat there and watched. Sorry but im not cut from that puece of cloth.
have you ever been in that situation ? Easy for you to talk, you'd be the first one running away
I feel the exact same way. "No greater love has a man than to give his life for a friend."
~Jesus Christ ☦️~
I agree.
They thought is was active shooter situation and they weren't armed. It's easy to judge them when you're not in that situation.
Andrew! What a wuss. To be manipulated that much , to the point of violent murder, by this woman. He deserves to be under the jail. Holly as well. Crazy woman. .
He wasn't really manipulated, they said in the video that the issues with him started during Alyssa's pregnancy and he tried to get full custody of Willow before she was even born. He was making her life hell long time before he met Holly. She definitely played a part in what happened, but given how obsessed he was with the full custody arrangement it's likely he would've done something to Alyssa even if there was no Holly. He just managed to find someone as crazy and evil as he is.
@@-notmycatOf course he was manipulated by his girlfriend. That's why he was relentlessly trying to get full custody because his girlfriend wanted them to be 1 big happy family with the mother outta the picture and yes he committed this crime on his on but i have no doubt his girlfriend was behind it
@@Naturefan354 Wrong. Did we watch the same video? He wanted full custody before Willow was even born and kept taking Alyssa to court since her birth.
He met Holly months after Willow's birth and he was already in a full blown custody fight at that point. It's even said in the video that the situation calmed down when he met Holly and he was finally willing to reach an agreement. Alyssa was happy that Holly had seemingly good influence on Andrew. Holly is evil, but that custody fight and all the issues were already happening. She didn't create the situation, she helped to make it worse.
@@-notmycat Wrong. Nowhere in the video did it say he had been taking her to court over custody since birth, in fact she could have been the first one to iniate custody it in the first place. The only proof that we have that he asked her for full custody before birth is her friend saying that he did and I don't really believe that. The only way it would make sense is if Holly was in the picture when Alyssa was pregnant otherwise it doesn't even make any sense.
@@Naturefan354 Honestly I don't know what else to tell you. It's all in the video. He was pushing for full custody from the beginning and kept taking her to court over it. It's literally all in the video. You must be trolling or maybe you're his mother. She was also very quick to excuse his actions.
Also why would we not trust her friend? Why would she lie about it? She has nothing to gain from it. Are we supposed to believe a man who brutally murdered the mother of his child so he could finally get the custody he so much wanted?
Asking for custody before the child was born. What if the child was disabled? I wonder if he would want full custody then.
We have to remember that he was already creating a lot of negative drama before his monster girlfriend walked in...
Coworkers failed to help her smh
The family courts need to be held accountable! This is not the first time this has happened.
How the mother can say that her son was acting out of love is beyond me. You don't shoot and stab someone 40+ times unless you're an evil person. Pure evil, that poor woman.
Why would Holly want another woman's child as her own? She didn't want to get pregnant with her OWN child???
I will never understand a man trying to take a little girl away from a good mother. It makes me questions his motives.
I just don’t get it, they could get anything and throw it at him but they did nothing, unbelievable
They will get themselves hurt. As police say do not tackle anyone who is armed and dangerous unless you are a trained professional
I’m sorry, but the coworkers not trying to help her was the last, ultimate betrayal. Everyone failed this woman.
His mom said he was such a good man. And he framed his child’s mother with drug distribution and eventually stabbed her 40 times. That’s how good her son was. The guts she has to say her son is good….. 😢
Mercy killing?! Are you kidding me? This is one of the most tragic and heartbreaking cases I’ve ever seen and I’ve seen them all! RIP beautiful Mom…Alyssa🩷
The mom is smiling like her son is some saint. AND, why wouldn't those two phychos just have their own love child? .. idk JAW FLOOR, JAW FLOOR... Disgraceful
You impregnate a young woman and then want to take her baby away from her altogether. Like are you mad or are you mad?
Why don't people who're just dating casually use contraception? It's extremely irresponsible! Especially when the woman decides to have the baby and a custody battle ensues! It sounds as though they hardly knew each other. Highly unfair to the child/ children. Children born out of wedlock, I know an outdated concept and term, do not receive the same benefits, consideration, respect by government agencies as those who're born to couples that are married!
Finally, this episode is out! They teased it with about six previews over the past two weeks-it felt like forever!