I actually like the grill on the BMW.. Looking forward to them including the R1S (and hoping they work out some of Kyle’s complaints before then). The Rivian interior looks and feels amazing!
Instant smile as soon as you were in the IX says it all, just ordered mine in oxide to replace my Etron 55 black edition I bought new in 2020 40k trouble free miles, tried a Tesla I found it decent enough but not in same quality league as the German cars.
Have been driving etron for 2 years now. Lovely car. Low efficiency is fine for my lifestyle. The other two cars are significantly more expensive. When I test drove them, MX didn't feel special. iX was awesome. I like the styling too but it is too big for my needs. With that size I would like a third row
I’m picking up my Model X in 2 weeks after waiting over a year. I’ve never been in a Model X. I currently have a 2022 Model Y and absolutely love it. Not sure which one I’m going to keep.
I had one of the first 3,000 Model X’s made. A Tesla engineer once told me that the first 5,000 X’s were basically made by hand. Consequently, I never had any of the build quality or mechanical issues with the falcon wing doors. Sold it a couple of months ago for a Ford F-150 Lightning. I have nothing but great things to say about the X, though I think it took them several years to catch up to the quality of the ones they built by hand in the early deliveries.
I think Tesla Model X would be my pick if it was cheaper. …I think the price of the X will eventually come down but won’t for now since there is such a backlog.
yep especially if performance is a consideration as well. Hard to beat the long range on performance, near impossible to beat the plaid on performance for the price.
I see what you did there…got the beaver front of the IX 50 facing away😂. Despite all the flack this car receives for its design I absolutely love mine.
Is the e-Tron actually all that inefficient when you look at real-world data? My 2021 averages 2.8 mi/kWh in high-speed interstate cruising (~240 mi range) and as high as 3.6 mi/kWh in 30 mph stop-and-go traffic (~300 mi range). You have to know how to drive it and take advantage of true coasting with two induction motors by paying attention to terrain and flow of traffic and keep it in Dynamic mode for the lower ride height (10% efficiency advantage over Auto).
Agreed and similar experiences with mine. I often get a longer range with it than I did with my 2020 Model Y, which had a serious case of false advertising in terms of range.
I had both a 19 and 21 e-tron and loved them both. There's nothing else as comfortable to get into and just relax on your drive. It's honestly the best car I've ever had to live with and it's any absolute beast in the snow. I briefly had a model 3 performance and now have a GV60 performance and truthfully, the e-tron's shorter range didn't matter. I have a 280 mile round trip commute so no matter what, I need one charge to make it in any car.
How does the etron compare to the gv60? We were shopping for a new car for my dad in 2019. He wanted the ultimate isolation hwy cruiser and the etron prestige would have been perfect - especially since he doesn’t drive long distances anymore. But at the time, we didn’t know anything about EVs (besides Tesla) so my dad ended up getting a fully loaded x5 w air suspension and acoustic windows, etc. he traded it in recently for an Ioniq 5 which he loves. But it’s a little too low for his aging knees. The etron would have been perfect. But it’s hard to justify paying msrp+ on the etron now considering we could Have gotten $20k discounts on the prestige back in 2019.
@@Wasabi9111 Like Kyle said, the e-tron is like driving a bank vault. It feels like a true luxury car and is honestly probably the most comfortable car I've ever had. The GV60 has all of the same luxury features and is super quiet and well built, but for some reason you just don't get that same luxury feeling as in the e-tron. I think Savage Geese said it best, it's like someone described luxury to the GV60 designers but they never actually felt it. The GV60 is an amazing car, but the e-tron is just truly exceptional in the feeling of luxury and comfort it provides.
Lift up that back shelf in the model X and you can fit 4 medium suitcase standing up and then layer duffle bags and backpack over top . My luggage fits in the frunk. We do lots of 5 person road-trips in our 6 seater model X.
Good review. I don’t think I would never select the Tesla because of cost and styling. The windshield comes up too high and would be a lousy experience driving if the sun was shining in my eyes continually. The Audi e-tron sounds like a nice care unless the suspension is too floating. I remember driving a Lincoln Town car with air suspension and the floating cycle started getting to my stomach. I actually like the looks of BMW iX 60. But the control knob area might drive me crazy and perhaps the steering wheel. I really have to drive a car before I buy. I don’t understand how people are buying Rivian’s and Ford Lightning without a test drive.
Just so people know usa and canada e-tron use use led matrix design lights and the digital matrix light are on chronos editon (usa only) or the sports back version (both) the usa approved the digital in 2021.
We had a '2019 Prestige and traded it for a '21 Presitge. The little things that you point out to be so perfect is exactly my feeling about the eTron and makes it so hard to think about anyting else. We have completed several long road trips sucessfully and CCS will get better shortly. So range will become less of a consideration. Wonder what the next eTron will be like.
Audi E-Tron facelift will have a lot more range due to a new-generation battery, more efficient motors with greater energy recuperation, and new electronics that work together to increase range by nearly 50%, going from 259 miles to 373 miles. It should be revealed before the end of this year.
I live in Norway and am in the process of buying an IX 40, I worked out I don’t need the range of the 50, so long as I can drive to Trondheim and Lilliehamar from Molde I’m ok.
@@frikkinnorwegian5227 I went on a long trip today, started at 100%, drove 380km, 27% of the battery is remaining, it’s GOM says it has 80km of range left. If I’d kept going I guess I would get 450km, which is better than WLTP.
@@frikkinnorwegian5227 the car I bought is 12 month old, but it was never used, it had only done 57km, I paid 699,000. The only option I would like which it doesn’t have it rear wheel steering.
@@MasterChief37yes it s one thing that is not mentioned in this review is that the bmw ix 40 is actually the most efficient in regeneration that s why you get so much more range. I saw bjørns review and said the same thing about the ix
37:31 is it possible to disable active noise cancellation? it would be interesting to know how much of the quietness is due to software and how much is due to build quality!
I was wondering the same thing but I don’t think you could turn it off. I was disappointed the iX doesn’t have acoustic side windows like the x5. Although the iX was very quiet on my test drive, wo the acoustic windows, you could def hear more of the loud vehicles driving next to you.
Fantastic video. This channel is legit and Kyle you and I have the same view on cars. No reason to hate on brands/models that don’t scratch your itch… it’s more about taste and finding the car that’s right for your use case.
While you are in the Seattle area drive the south burbs. In the south burbs most of the traffic lights are vehicle sensing so you typically wait very little.
About the e-tron’e regen, I think you can set the regen to a specific level and have it keep it there all the time by setting recuperation to manual mode
Leather, good quality leather, wears like iron especially if you put leather dressing or saddle soap on it once a year. Unlike plastic imitations, it also does not burn. If you are ever in a crash, you may appreciate the slight extra cost of getting flammable plastics and upholstery out of the car.
The front end on the BMW, aka Bucky beaver, is downright hideous. Looks wise, it’s a race between the ETron and Model X. Now that Model X is $78k non-Plaid and $90k Plaid, Tesla for the win.
The iX definitely has some design issues and quirks, but many of the issues you're specifically taking with the car have to do with it being the M60. Harsher suspension and harsher pedal feel are both M60 tuning issues that other reviewers have complained about. It has a lot of positives; the interior is super nice, the HUD is nice. The infotainment is solid, but could be improved further. However, I kind of take issue with 'settings location'. How often will an owner mess with the settings once they have it all setup? The mapping software could be better, but with Android Auto / Apple Carplay, I imagine it's fine. The steering wheel really depends on preferred hand placement. Some have said it's amazing, some say they don't like it. I do like that you can get multiple different paint, wheel, and interior color / fabric options for either free or for a low price. The blue fabric option looks amazing; even if you can't get ventilated seats with it. The seats should have more bolstering and better thigh extension. Another odd oversight. There's no excuse for the hard to reach front cup holder location and I don't understand why they left that gap between the center console and front of the wheel well for things to roll between. That space is essentially unusable except as extra foot room or pet walkthrough. It was a missed opportunity where they could have added more storage, where they could have pushed the cup holders more forward and higher, or could have put in an extra glove box. Removing the reflective crystal controls is no longer an option due to BMW's new options package setup. Reflective stuff inside a car's interior is literally the dumbest blunder a car company can make. IMO, they should have gone with a high quality wooden knob and wooden seat controls... maybe a darker contrasting wood to what's on the wood panel. Now that would have been really nice. It would have added to the lounge cozy feel. The only option may be to wrap it. The removal of the B&W system from the M50 is a major blunder, meant only to try and push people into the more expensive M60 trim; although I hear the standard system is fine. The rear storage could have been better, but the door hinge placement eats up some space, and the lack of side storage seems like a silly oversight. Door closing sound could definitely be better. The radiant heating in both front and back may be a game changer once this is tested in the winter. While there are some obvious blunders and missed opportunities in the BMW, I still think it's the best value for money... at least until the refreshed e-tron gets here; which will supposedly see a huge jump in range. I guess we'll see how price is affected. The e-tron is probably the best daily driver, but its really been handcuffed its demand primarily due to its weak efficiency and sparse range.
Real quick... when you're talking about car ownership... it really is a culmination of little things that can determine how someone feels about the vehicle. This is why it was such a shame the amount of criticism Audi got for their e-tron when it first came out. At that time, the EV media made it all about range, and didn't consider any other specs on the vehicle before crapping all over it. You really should go more into livability differences. For daily driving, sound system is actually a huge deal. Handling. Navigating a parking lot or backing into a driveway / garage. Camera quality and usability in both day and night. Highway road noise. How does it handle bumps? How's the traction control in winter? Comfort getting in and out? Long term seat comfort? How well does it hold the lane on the highway and how easily can you pass? Preciseness of lane placement? How does the cruise control and/or ADAS system perform in various situations? How is cabin comfort in the winter? Some cars have cold spots in the foot well for example. BTW, asking the buyers opinion of a guy who's channel name is "Tesla Flex", who owns a model X, and is probably a Tesla shareholder... ummm... I think it's a hard sell to say bias isn't gonna come into play. You personally own a Tesla, but you and Alyssa both own multiple vehicle brands, so I do think you have less bias on this front than a clear Tesla fan / investor / youtube content provider. Maybe instead of bringing along a Tesla person, you get some friends who have no skin in the game and don't currently own electric vehicles at all. Let them drive the vehicles, and let them say what they would spend their money on.
@@updlate4756 Good point beside on the Audi. I remember the e-tron going into development around the same time as BMW, atleast I think not massivly earier and that sounded strange. How is their car already finished when bmw like waited and waited with the release. It was like AMG mercs in the old days, BMW fine tuned M-s atleast a year after the basic model was out, but the AMG-s were out the same day as basic promising to be just as good. E-tron did have quality issues because of that I think. But maybe all are fixed.
I saved over 25k on my IX 50 vs the cost of a new Tesla X. Love my IX, however I agree with Kyle on the software. Tesla has the absolute best software and BMW could learn a lot from Tesla on that front.
So you’d buy the bmw ix with the flawed head rest thing instead of the x to test the flawed ccs charging network? Tesla has a ccs adapter you can test though doesn’t it? Any reason that wouldn’t work?
I love my Audi etron sportback but after test driving the ix50, it drove a lot nicer and acceleration was neck snapping quick compared to my etron. Then test drive the Tesla model x and felt that it still feels like a completely unique experience cause of the tech but I didn’t like the rattles and minor sounds it makes in the interior. I am looking forward to the lotus Eletre to come out that will be the best of all worlds if they can keep the price competitive.
Thanks for sharing this video! I’m curious to see how the Cadillac Lyriq AWD will hold up against this competition… Range and charging abilities should put it in the middle of the pack, but value for money may make it the best luxury EV to recommend
my issue with the iX is that i'd rather just get an X5 and save some money for a better looking car with the same comfort. With the Model X it is one of the very few EVs with a usable third row.
X5 does not have the same comfort at all. The ride and quietness is far superior in the iX. Overtime you will pay for all that gas and the maintenance. The insurance is cheaper with the iX as well.
@@kkgolf5371 Well, I voted with my wallet. I actually had reserved an iX and this was when it still qualified for the $7,500 tax credit. In the end I felt that I was really paying $30k more for an iX over a X5. I would never get that back. Also I hated that it lacked a frunk not necessarily that I need it but that it meant that it wasn't nearly as well engineered as EVs that have a frunk. In the end I went with the Plaid X. I have reservations for R1S and Lucid Air to replace my Y. Lucid for its efficiency and enormous rear leg room and R1S because it has an even better 3rd row but sacrificing efficiency.
Enjoying your videos. These luxury branded cars are too pricey for an average buyer in either form - the EV or the ICE. I am glad you are going to start reviewing cars that most ordinary folk can actually afford.
I’m really looking forward to you reviewing the Cadillac Lyriq. Jay Leno reviewed it on his show, and everything he really liked about it, is all the things you love about the e-Tron. The AWD version will sell for mid-$60k range and it has about 300 mile range.
I’m a retired senior. We have a Nissan Leaf sv plus as our around town car. For road trips we are looking at a Toyota or Lexus hybrid. We travel off the beaten path in the PNW, and want long range and no range anxiety.
You should test drive a model 3 or Y. The autopilot system is a god send on long road trips, really makes road trips super easy. Edit: you should actually book an overnight test drive as then you have the car for like 16 hours and can take it home.
@@Chris28mmz good idea. In the past I’ve rented for 3 days cars on Turo. That’s how we decided on the Nissan Leaf SV plus, which is my wife’s car. I think if I would get another EV, it would be the Tesla Y. I’ve hesitated because of CR reliability reviews. I know battery, motors, supercharger network is tops, however rattles would drive me crazy. Panel gaps and minor paint issues don’t bother me. I also like to drive on forest service roads where 8” ground clearance is recommended. The perfect car for me does not exist yet: an EV minivan with 400 miles range and 8” ground clearance. VW/Westphalia are you listening?
You would love a long range model Y. I have a 3 and an X also. The Y rides up higher than the 3 - much easier getting in and out of the vehicle and rides smoother. The supercharger network is so easy to use and locations are everywhere.
Thanks for the content. FYI, when viewing this in 4k (2160p60) the upper 2/3 of the frame seems a bit washed out (like there is a film on the lens or perhaps you are having a really bad air quality day in CO)
I cross shopped all those cars back in February and fell in love with the BMW iX. Ordered a fully loaded iX 50 with a build date for a 2023 model year next month. Me and my wife already have 2 Chevy Bolts for daily commute, and this will be a 3rd Car for long trips. We are paying cash for it because debt is dumb (where have I heard that before? LOL).
good job.. can't wait to include R1S to this price range. MB EQS SU would be a good add on to this list. Model X really needs those 4680 batteries at $130k.
Bought a 2021 Audi etron and within 24 hours it has a catastrophic motor (for science) and control module failure. 3 month wait for parts to fix it. No idea why it broke. So couldn't trust it for longer trips.
@@ezpoppy55 sorry. Motor. Semantics aside. Car failed. Within 24 hours. Not my first electric car, third. You? Not trying to bash Audi. Was beautiful. But when it did fail, The dealership had no idea what to do. Had to order parts from Germany. Then they would replace them still not knowing why they failed, with the exact same part numbers.
That’s no fun. My parents bought an id4. Within the first week the dash randomly lit up w all the warning lights several times and 2x it wouldn’t drive (all this is common with no fix based on the owner forums) so my parents immediately sold it.
@@alecstetzer2018 yeah. This is why I steered away from the etron. There's definitely some horror stories out there. I've had some issues with my Model X, but Tesla service has been great despite stories to the contrary. Makes me wonder if Audi hasn't figured it out since 2019 when I was researching options.
I hate the front of the BMW and for that reason do not even consider it. The Tesla is a great car with a great charging system but here in USA it does take an exceptionally long time to get. I love the ride and inside of the E Tron. There are some 2019’s on the market at acceptable prices. It charges quickly but is very thirsty. Since I only take long trips once in awhile and most charging will be done at home my choice is the Audi.
@@andyfeimsternfei8408 my reply was aimed at Martin. I was implying that if he doesn't have radar sense, the car doesn't need it either. Eventually, with high enough resolution cameras and powerful enough processors, the human influence on driving will become obsolete
@@andyfeimsternfei8408 How can be you be positiv about that? You had radar, but now its no longer used. I think that just shows how much Tesla is able to do, even after you bought the car. No other manufacture would do that
Great comparison quickie, thanks. I would love to see you do a charging video in a Tesla that challenges the Tesla network. By that I mean, drive the car off the main highways. Plan a route that has very few Tesla charge stations and see how you have to adapt to make it over those empty regions. For example: South on 285 out of Denver, charge at Poncha Springs then arrive in Durango and use the CCS adapter at one of 2 chargepoint fast charge stations. If you want to continue on to the Grand Canyon, you can't go through the Navajo Reservation on State 160 as there are no charge stations. There's a great Tesla station in Tusayan but getting there is sketchy. Anyway, see what it's like and drive safely.
Everything about my etron is just so ergonomic and comfortable and well thought out. The build quality is rock solid and they took no risks which is great thing. The seats in my Tesla make my back hurt after 30 minutes, but the seats in the etron are just so comfy and supportive.
Genesis gv60 is much better with price and all around. It has enough safety features. Enough speed. On Regular road 500HP is enough. If u like to drive to speed- better go with racing car with hamlet on racing track. Gv60 has enough space inside and the trunk. Everything is perfect. U wouldn’t feel empty’even it is EV. Just check
Etron wins for me simply because it has a panoramic sunroof that opens! Tesla started the stupid trend of fixed glass roofs and everyone is following them.
Got a 2019 e-tron Prestige with 10k miles on it for $58k after owning a ‘20 Model Y with horrendous phantom braking, and a Hyundai Ioniq 5, and the e-tron is by far my favorite of those. Love it. So luxurious and solid. In efficiency mode, I get far more range than the advertised max (240 miles mostly highway). The massage seats, sounds system, MMI, solidity is unbeatable. I’ve driven a BMW iX M50, ash’s while it is very nice, I prefer the steering, suspension, seats, and solidity of the e-tron. Add the $58k price and for me it’s the clear winner.
IX is the king!
I actually like the grill on the BMW..
Looking forward to them including the R1S (and hoping they work out some of Kyle’s complaints before then). The Rivian interior looks and feels amazing!
Instant smile as soon as you were in the IX says it all, just ordered mine in oxide to replace my Etron 55 black edition I bought new in 2020 40k trouble free miles, tried a Tesla I found it decent enough but not in same quality league as the German cars.
Have been driving etron for 2 years now. Lovely car. Low efficiency is fine for my lifestyle. The other two cars are significantly more expensive. When I test drove them, MX didn't feel special. iX was awesome. I like the styling too but it is too big for my needs. With that size I would like a third row
@Johntalkstesla > The model X will actually appreciate in value so it’s the best investment.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Etron too expensive. Q8 etron is 160k, model x is 84k and ix is 82k
I’m picking up my Model X in 2 weeks after waiting over a year. I’ve never been in a Model X. I currently have a 2022 Model Y and absolutely love it. Not sure which one I’m going to keep.
Would be nice to hear about your experience with the X after a year.
I had one of the first 3,000 Model X’s made. A Tesla engineer once told me that the first 5,000 X’s were basically made by hand. Consequently, I never had any of the build quality or mechanical issues with the falcon wing doors. Sold it a couple of months ago for a Ford F-150 Lightning. I have nothing but great things to say about the X, though I think it took them several years to catch up to the quality of the ones they built by hand in the early deliveries.
Careful the Tesla purist fanboys don't wanna hear about that Lightning...
Built by hand typically doesn’t mean great quality control. Ask an Aston Martin owner
@@Crono454 They sign the engine covers so the owner knows who they should hunt down for the shitty QC
Did you pop up wing function the entire time or did they turn in into a fixed wing?
I’d love to hear about the Lightning. Only if it didn’t have ridiculous markups and being overpriced.
LOL, 'Ive parked the BMW so you don't have to look at the front of it'. Nice one Kyle. You made me, nearly spill tea over my keyboard...😀😄
This made me chuckle too!
I think Tesla Model X would be my pick if it was cheaper. …I think the price of the X will eventually come down but won’t for now since there is such a backlog.
yep especially if performance is a consideration as well. Hard to beat the long range on performance, near impossible to beat the plaid on performance for the price.
Price just came down a second time a couple days ago. Wonder how that will effect the used Model X market..
I see what you did there…got the beaver front of the IX 50 facing away😂. Despite all the flack this car receives for its design I absolutely love mine.
Is the e-Tron actually all that inefficient when you look at real-world data? My 2021 averages 2.8 mi/kWh in high-speed interstate cruising (~240 mi range) and as high as 3.6 mi/kWh in 30 mph stop-and-go traffic (~300 mi range). You have to know how to drive it and take advantage of true coasting with two induction motors by paying attention to terrain and flow of traffic and keep it in Dynamic mode for the lower ride height (10% efficiency advantage over Auto).
Agreed and similar experiences with mine. I often get a longer range with it than I did with my 2020 Model Y, which had a serious case of false advertising in terms of range.
I had both a 19 and 21 e-tron and loved them both. There's nothing else as comfortable to get into and just relax on your drive. It's honestly the best car I've ever had to live with and it's any absolute beast in the snow.
I briefly had a model 3 performance and now have a GV60 performance and truthfully, the e-tron's shorter range didn't matter. I have a 280 mile round trip commute so no matter what, I need one charge to make it in any car.
How does the etron compare to the gv60?
We were shopping for a new car for my dad in 2019. He wanted the ultimate isolation hwy cruiser and the etron prestige would have been perfect - especially since he doesn’t drive long distances anymore. But at the time, we didn’t know anything about EVs (besides Tesla) so my dad ended up getting a fully loaded x5 w air suspension and acoustic windows, etc. he traded it in recently for an Ioniq 5 which he loves. But it’s a little too low for his aging knees. The etron would have been perfect. But it’s hard to justify paying msrp+ on the etron now considering we could Have gotten $20k discounts on the prestige back in 2019.
@@Wasabi9111 Like Kyle said, the e-tron is like driving a bank vault. It feels like a true luxury car and is honestly probably the most comfortable car I've ever had.
The GV60 has all of the same luxury features and is super quiet and well built, but for some reason you just don't get that same luxury feeling as in the e-tron. I think Savage Geese said it best, it's like someone described luxury to the GV60 designers but they never actually felt it. The GV60 is an amazing car, but the e-tron is just truly exceptional in the feeling of luxury and comfort it provides.
@@symawd Did you try the IX? I'm trying to decide between the IX, e-tron 55 sportback, Mach-e GT PE, EQC and EQE.
@@frikkinnorwegian5227 No, it wasn't out at the time
Lift up that back shelf in the model X and you can fit 4 medium suitcase standing up and then layer duffle bags and backpack over top . My luggage fits in the frunk. We do lots of 5 person road-trips in our 6 seater model X.
The ix is a great vehicle. I didnt even bother to test drive the tesla but the ix felt the best compared to the mercs and the audi
When I saw the way the iX was parked 🤣
Interesting review but you should do this round up again when the Mercedes EQS SUV is available for press reviews. Thanks Kyle.
Good review. I don’t think I would never select the Tesla because of cost and styling. The windshield comes up too high and would be a lousy experience driving if the sun was shining in my eyes continually. The Audi e-tron sounds like a nice care unless the suspension is too floating. I remember driving a Lincoln Town car with air suspension and the floating cycle started getting to my stomach. I actually like the looks of BMW iX 60. But the control knob area might drive me crazy and perhaps the steering wheel. I really have to drive a car before I buy. I don’t understand how people are buying Rivian’s and Ford Lightning without a test drive.
e-Tron suspension is not floating at all. Very taught, it feels like other MLBevo platform cars (Q7, Cayenne).
People complain many things about the model x, the windshield isn’t one of them.
@@nelauren right? I had to lol at that silly comment.
Really? What do u do when the sun is low and straight in your face?
It's winter and low sun is almost a daily issue here.
This guy, probably some kid or someone that’s very indecisive. I’m actually confused as to why I replied 😂
Best description of Tesla vehicles I've ever heard: "Let's start with fart mode and work backwards". 🤣
52:18 you know the trick how to get the full depth? = increase the size by 2x3
I vote model X for SC network and the most storage for 6-7 passenger vehicle
Just so people know usa and canada e-tron use use led matrix design lights and the digital matrix light are on chronos editon (usa only) or the sports back version (both) the usa approved the digital in 2021.
We had a '2019 Prestige and traded it for a '21 Presitge. The little things that you point out to be so perfect is exactly my feeling about the eTron and makes it so hard to think about anyting else.
We have completed several long road trips sucessfully and CCS will get better shortly. So range will become less of a consideration. Wonder what the next eTron will be like.
Audi E-Tron facelift will have a lot more range due to a new-generation battery, more efficient motors with greater energy recuperation, and new electronics that work together to increase range by nearly 50%, going from 259 miles to 373 miles. It should be revealed before the end of this year.
How come you traded it in for a 2021?
@@Wasabi9111 There were still big discounts on the '21 so had the same payment for the newer car. There was nothing wrong with the '19 car.
did you get audi care? is there really no maintenance..... just a checkup every 2 years? how many miles did you have on the 2019? Thanks for your time
@@cjceeez9897 14K on the MY2019
iX is among top seller in Norway. Actually as a package it s the best out of the three. E tron (2023) in the second place.
I live in Norway and am in the process of buying an IX 40, I worked out I don’t need the range of the 50, so long as I can drive to Trondheim and Lilliehamar from Molde I’m ok.
@@MasterChief37same 😀 how is the range on the 40 here? Doable?
What price and equipment did you get?
@@frikkinnorwegian5227 I went on a long trip today, started at 100%, drove 380km, 27% of the battery is remaining, it’s GOM says it has 80km of range left. If I’d kept going I guess I would get 450km, which is better than WLTP.
@@frikkinnorwegian5227 the car I bought is 12 month old, but it was never used, it had only done 57km, I paid 699,000. The only option I would like which it doesn’t have it rear wheel steering.
@@MasterChief37yes it s one thing that is not mentioned in this review is that the bmw ix 40 is actually the most efficient in regeneration that s why you get so much more range. I saw bjørns review and said the same thing about the ix
I have the IX50. The front will grow on you after awhile 😂. The ride and drive is awesome
I am picking up an iX 50 this week in Dark Graphite - M Sport. Was blown away by the vehicle during an extended test drive.
I haven't even ordered mine yet and I already like it now
A lot of the issues you mention with the iX are better with the 50. The suspension is more comfortable and the pedal is mapped less sporty.
37:31 is it possible to disable active noise cancellation? it would be interesting to know how much of the quietness is due to software and how much is due to build quality!
I was wondering the same thing but I don’t think you could turn it off. I was disappointed the iX doesn’t have acoustic side windows like the x5. Although the iX was very quiet on my test drive, wo the acoustic windows, you could def hear more of the loud vehicles driving next to you.
The Rivian R1S is currently shipping to customers, I got mine over 2 weeks ago...
I like the IX design...
what wrap is on the model x??
Would you still choose a different vehicle over the Tesla Model X with the recent price drop?
Fantastic video. This channel is legit and Kyle you and I have the same view on cars. No reason to hate on brands/models that don’t scratch your itch… it’s more about taste and finding the car that’s right for your use case.
While you are in the Seattle area drive the south burbs. In the south burbs most of the traffic lights are vehicle sensing so you typically wait very little.
About the e-tron’e regen, I think you can set the regen to a specific level and have it keep it there all the time by setting recuperation to manual mode
Bang and Olufsen Sound system in the Audi
It seems like the BMW is the way to go!
Forward to 2024 and model x is way cheaper and as of now the same year etron and Ix are depreciating the same
Tbh the R1S would be the winner if included. But given these 3 I would take the BMW.
We have a 2019 Etron and love it.
Leather, good quality leather, wears like iron especially if you put leather dressing or saddle soap on it once a year. Unlike plastic imitations, it also does not burn. If you are ever in a crash, you may appreciate the slight extra cost of getting flammable plastics and upholstery out of the car.
Lol thank you Kyle for pointing the BMW iX's nose away from the camera. But I guess you can't hide the rear end either. Oh well.
I’ll pick Rivian R1S 😀
I must arrest you about the Audi etron app - it SUCKS! At least here in Europe. It fails almost every day 😢
But I love the car!
Really appreciate your journalism keep up the great work.
The front end on the BMW, aka Bucky beaver, is downright hideous. Looks wise, it’s a race between the ETron and Model X. Now that Model X is $78k non-Plaid and $90k Plaid, Tesla for the win.
The iX definitely has some design issues and quirks, but many of the issues you're specifically taking with the car have to do with it being the M60. Harsher suspension and harsher pedal feel are both M60 tuning issues that other reviewers have complained about. It has a lot of positives; the interior is super nice, the HUD is nice. The infotainment is solid, but could be improved further. However, I kind of take issue with 'settings location'. How often will an owner mess with the settings once they have it all setup? The mapping software could be better, but with Android Auto / Apple Carplay, I imagine it's fine. The steering wheel really depends on preferred hand placement. Some have said it's amazing, some say they don't like it. I do like that you can get multiple different paint, wheel, and interior color / fabric options for either free or for a low price. The blue fabric option looks amazing; even if you can't get ventilated seats with it.
The seats should have more bolstering and better thigh extension. Another odd oversight. There's no excuse for the hard to reach front cup holder location and I don't understand why they left that gap between the center console and front of the wheel well for things to roll between. That space is essentially unusable except as extra foot room or pet walkthrough. It was a missed opportunity where they could have added more storage, where they could have pushed the cup holders more forward and higher, or could have put in an extra glove box. Removing the reflective crystal controls is no longer an option due to BMW's new options package setup. Reflective stuff inside a car's interior is literally the dumbest blunder a car company can make. IMO, they should have gone with a high quality wooden knob and wooden seat controls... maybe a darker contrasting wood to what's on the wood panel. Now that would have been really nice. It would have added to the lounge cozy feel. The only option may be to wrap it.
The removal of the B&W system from the M50 is a major blunder, meant only to try and push people into the more expensive M60 trim; although I hear the standard system is fine. The rear storage could have been better, but the door hinge placement eats up some space, and the lack of side storage seems like a silly oversight. Door closing sound could definitely be better. The radiant heating in both front and back may be a game changer once this is tested in the winter.
While there are some obvious blunders and missed opportunities in the BMW, I still think it's the best value for money... at least until the refreshed e-tron gets here; which will supposedly see a huge jump in range. I guess we'll see how price is affected. The e-tron is probably the best daily driver, but its really been handcuffed its demand primarily due to its weak efficiency and sparse range.
Real quick... when you're talking about car ownership... it really is a culmination of little things that can determine how someone feels about the vehicle. This is why it was such a shame the amount of criticism Audi got for their e-tron when it first came out. At that time, the EV media made it all about range, and didn't consider any other specs on the vehicle before crapping all over it. You really should go more into livability differences. For daily driving, sound system is actually a huge deal. Handling. Navigating a parking lot or backing into a driveway / garage. Camera quality and usability in both day and night. Highway road noise. How does it handle bumps? How's the traction control in winter? Comfort getting in and out? Long term seat comfort? How well does it hold the lane on the highway and how easily can you pass? Preciseness of lane placement? How does the cruise control and/or ADAS system perform in various situations? How is cabin comfort in the winter? Some cars have cold spots in the foot well for example.
BTW, asking the buyers opinion of a guy who's channel name is "Tesla Flex", who owns a model X, and is probably a Tesla shareholder... ummm... I think it's a hard sell to say bias isn't gonna come into play. You personally own a Tesla, but you and Alyssa both own multiple vehicle brands, so I do think you have less bias on this front than a clear Tesla fan / investor / youtube content provider. Maybe instead of bringing along a Tesla person, you get some friends who have no skin in the game and don't currently own electric vehicles at all. Let them drive the vehicles, and let them say what they would spend their money on.
@@updlate4756 Good point beside on the Audi. I remember the e-tron going into development around the same time as BMW, atleast I think not massivly earier and that sounded strange. How is their car already finished when bmw like waited and waited with the release.
It was like AMG mercs in the old days, BMW fine tuned M-s atleast a year after the basic model was out, but the AMG-s were out the same day as basic promising to be just as good.
E-tron did have quality issues because of that I think. But maybe all are fixed.
Wouldn’t the BMW be marked up? So same price as the X if not more?
I saved over 25k on my IX 50 vs the cost of a new Tesla X. Love my IX, however I agree with Kyle on the software. Tesla has the absolute best software and BMW could learn a lot from Tesla on that front.
Got ours at MSRP
You can definitely get the Bowers & Wilkens sound system in the iX 50 now.
As of July 2024 in US Tesla X LR costs $73,000 and that’s $30,000 less than BMW. As much as BMW is better, it’s not 30K better….
I believed e-tron Prestige's audio system is B&O, not B&W like the iX
Model X all the way, that windshield is too special to give up
So you’d buy the bmw ix with the flawed head rest thing instead of the x to test the flawed ccs charging network? Tesla has a ccs adapter you can test though doesn’t it? Any reason that wouldn’t work?
I love my Audi etron sportback but after test driving the ix50, it drove a lot nicer and acceleration was neck snapping quick compared to my etron. Then test drive the Tesla model x and felt that it still feels like a completely unique experience cause of the tech but I didn’t like the rattles and minor sounds it makes in the interior. I am looking forward to the lotus Eletre to come out that will be the best of all worlds if they can keep the price competitive.
Thanks for sharing this video! I’m curious to see how the Cadillac Lyriq AWD will hold up against this competition… Range and charging abilities should put it in the middle of the pack, but value for money may make it the best luxury EV to recommend
I love when you do these tests - Which one should you buy? 👌👍
Review video. Present rates for model x and model s. Now 25,000$ less compared to corona prices
“Quick” video at 55 minutes long??? I can’t imagine how much longer the in-depth video will be when it comes out 😂.
Great information nonetheless!
I was looking for this comment lol
#1 Tesla
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How can you seat so close to the steering wheel in MX?!!! Why do you hug it with your knees? 😀
my issue with the iX is that i'd rather just get an X5 and save some money for a better looking car with the same comfort. With the Model X it is one of the very few EVs with a usable third row.
X5 does not have the same comfort at all. The ride and quietness is far superior in the iX. Overtime you will pay for all that gas and the maintenance. The insurance is cheaper with the iX as well.
@@kkgolf5371 Well, I voted with my wallet. I actually had reserved an iX and this was when it still qualified for the $7,500 tax credit. In the end I felt that I was really paying $30k more for an iX over a X5. I would never get that back.
Also I hated that it lacked a frunk not necessarily that I need it but that it meant that it wasn't nearly as well engineered as EVs that have a frunk.
In the end I went with the Plaid X.
I have reservations for R1S and Lucid Air to replace my Y. Lucid for its efficiency and enormous rear leg room and R1S because it has an even better 3rd row but sacrificing efficiency.
Enjoying your videos. These luxury branded cars are too pricey for an average buyer in either form - the EV or the ICE. I am glad you are going to start reviewing cars that most ordinary folk can actually afford.
Awesome job! Appreciate the comparison and your honest assessments. Thanks!
I’m really looking forward to you reviewing the Cadillac Lyriq. Jay Leno reviewed it on his show, and everything he really liked about it, is all the things you love about the e-Tron. The AWD version will sell for mid-$60k range and it has about 300 mile range.
Minivan for road trip. Your favourite crossover for daily pain.
I’m a retired senior. We have a Nissan Leaf sv plus as our around town car. For road trips we are looking at a Toyota or Lexus hybrid. We travel off the beaten path in the PNW, and want long range and no range anxiety.
You should test drive a model 3 or Y. The autopilot system is a god send on long road trips, really makes road trips super easy.
Edit: you should actually book an overnight test drive as then you have the car for like 16 hours and can take it home.
You should test drive the Hyundai Ioniq 5
@@Chris28mmz good idea. In the past I’ve rented for 3 days cars on Turo. That’s how we decided on the Nissan Leaf SV plus, which is my wife’s car.
I think if I would get another EV, it would be the Tesla Y. I’ve hesitated because of CR reliability reviews. I know battery, motors, supercharger network is tops, however rattles would drive me crazy. Panel gaps and minor paint issues don’t bother me. I also like to drive on forest service roads where 8” ground clearance is recommended. The perfect car for me does not exist yet: an EV minivan with 400 miles range and 8” ground clearance. VW/Westphalia are you listening?
You would love a long range model Y. I have a 3 and an X also. The Y rides up higher than the 3 - much easier getting in and out of the vehicle and rides smoother. The supercharger network is so easy to use and locations are everywhere.
@@yolanda4731 thanks. No rattles?
Do you have a review comparing rivian R1S and ionic 5 ?
Thanks for the content. FYI, when viewing this in 4k (2160p60) the upper 2/3 of the frame seems a bit washed out (like there is a film on the lens or perhaps you are having a really bad air quality day in CO)
The Etron is a best seller in EU countries! Talk about how different countries can value different things!
Will the Cadillac Lyriq be the most similar to the e-tron? But cheaper.
Mercedes electric 2022 SUV?
NOT AVAILABLE YET
EQB is on sale now.
EQS suv is in stock at the dealers near me.
@@tychang8669 EQC and EQB, EQA are already on road in Europe for sometime.
Uh what is the year of these vehicles?
since model x so cheaper or comparable to other SUV then model X is winner?
I cross shopped all those cars back in February and fell in love with the BMW iX. Ordered a fully loaded iX 50 with a build date for a 2023 model year next month.
Me and my wife already have 2 Chevy Bolts for daily commute, and this will be a 3rd Car for long trips. We are paying cash for it because debt is dumb (where have I heard that before? LOL).
Dave Ramsey 👏🏾
Audi is always five or six years behind the market in their eiectronics.
good job.. can't wait to include R1S to this price range. MB EQS SU would be a good add on to this list. Model X really needs those 4680 batteries at $130k.
Actually I think rather then 4680, tesla really needs to bump up their luxury feeling in the seats, noise, and suspension.
Can’t stand the look of the IX
Hideous all the way around.
Bought a 2021 Audi etron and within 24 hours it has a catastrophic motor (for science) and control module failure. 3 month wait for parts to fix it. No idea why it broke. So couldn't trust it for longer trips.
Engine failure…? In an e-tron…? They don’t have engines. How could something it doesn’t have fail, catastrophically or otherwise?
@@ezpoppy55 sorry. Motor. Semantics aside. Car failed. Within 24 hours. Not my first electric car, third. You? Not trying to bash Audi. Was beautiful. But when it did fail, The dealership had no idea what to do. Had to order parts from Germany. Then they would replace them still not knowing why they failed, with the exact same part numbers.
That’s no fun. My parents bought an id4. Within the first week the dash randomly lit up w all the warning lights several times and 2x it wouldn’t drive (all this is common with no fix based on the owner forums) so my parents immediately sold it.
@@Wasabi9111 yeah I did the same thing. It was really unfortunate. Really liked it a ton.
@@alecstetzer2018 yeah. This is why I steered away from the etron. There's definitely some horror stories out there. I've had some issues with my Model X, but Tesla service has been great despite stories to the contrary.
Makes me wonder if Audi hasn't figured it out since 2019 when I was researching options.
Nice comparison. BMW gets the W for me. But perfer the Lyriq AWD over these.
I hate the front of the BMW and for that reason do not even consider it. The Tesla is a great car with a great charging system but here in USA it does take an exceptionally long time to get. I love the ride and inside of the E Tron. There are some 2019’s on the market at acceptable prices. It charges quickly but is very thirsty. Since I only take long trips once in awhile and most charging will be done at home my choice is the Audi.
High resale value of the Model X will return the price difference. Similar to Apple devices vs Dell etc.
No radar system on a 130000$ car is just insane
My Plaid X has radar but it's not used anymore. I'm on my second cross country >6k miles and I might drive 10 miles myself. Why do I need radar?
Do you even know what the purpose of Radar is? Do you have Radar-sense?
@@DescartesRenegade oh you are so wise!
@@andyfeimsternfei8408 my reply was aimed at Martin. I was implying that if he doesn't have radar sense, the car doesn't need it either. Eventually, with high enough resolution cameras and powerful enough processors, the human influence on driving will become obsolete
@@andyfeimsternfei8408 How can be you be positiv about that? You had radar, but now its no longer used. I think that just shows how much Tesla is able to do, even after you bought the car. No other manufacture would do that
Does’nt the E-tron have Bang & Olufsen sound system?? Not B&W…
Great comparison quickie, thanks. I would love to see you do a charging video in a Tesla that challenges the Tesla network. By that I mean, drive the car off the main highways. Plan a route that has very few Tesla charge stations and see how you have to adapt to make it over those empty regions. For example: South on 285 out of Denver, charge at Poncha Springs then arrive in Durango and use the CCS adapter at one of 2 chargepoint fast charge stations. If you want to continue on to the Grand Canyon, you can't go through the Navajo Reservation on State 160 as there are no charge stations. There's a great Tesla station in Tusayan but getting there is sketchy. Anyway, see what it's like and drive safely.
Ordered iX50, but delivery time is 1 year. Must be here mid-summer 2023.
Thanks for the video. But really most people can't afford anything even close to these cars. Love them and what they bring.
model x is now 80k- does this change your pick? etron most outdated, stuck in 2012.
Everything about my etron is just so ergonomic and comfortable and well thought out. The build quality is rock solid and they took no risks which is great thing. The seats in my Tesla make my back hurt after 30 minutes, but the seats in the etron are just so comfy and supportive.
Genesis gv60 is much better with price and all around. It has enough safety features. Enough speed. On Regular road 500HP is enough. If u like to drive to speed- better go with racing car with hamlet on racing track. Gv60 has enough space inside and the trunk. Everything is perfect. U wouldn’t feel empty’even it is EV. Just check
Etron wins for me simply because it has a panoramic sunroof that opens! Tesla started the stupid trend of fixed glass roofs and everyone is following them.
I already checked and I decide to buy genesis gv60
Kyle didn’t show the space in the back of the X - that panel lifts up- there’s way more storage back there
Very informative video, thank you 👍
Got a 2019 e-tron Prestige with 10k miles on it for $58k after owning a ‘20 Model Y with horrendous phantom braking, and a Hyundai Ioniq 5, and the e-tron is by far my favorite of those. Love it. So luxurious and solid. In efficiency mode, I get far more range than the advertised max (240 miles mostly highway). The massage seats, sounds system, MMI, solidity is unbeatable. I’ve driven a BMW iX M50, ash’s while it is very nice, I prefer the steering, suspension, seats, and solidity of the e-tron. Add the $58k price and for me it’s the clear winner.
You have had a Model X LR several times, and we still do not have a 1/4 time for this car?
How is that even possible!
How do you pay only $100 a year for the services on the Audi Etron they want to charge me $365 a year
very well done video your knowledge is very good over others
When will you review the EQS SUV?
Alyssa did a great job photographing this video! Very intuitive camera operator!
IX doesn't look to practical for the size it has, model X for me.
Model X 140000$ ??? Without tax? Weird, in Europe with 20% tax, it is 105k. The Plaid is at this price of 140....
Exactly and plaid is the fastest suv in the world after all...
In Europe the Model X price has dropped a lot. IX50 has kept it's value the best.
What are the parameters to call a vehicle "SUV" ?