I used to race Formula cars, now I race sailboats. Honestly, the boats are more thrilling. Hard to describe that feeling to non sailors! These boats look like a blast!
Big F1 fan here, but yes I can only imagine what one of those starts must be like. Regatta starts for for me personally are just a thrill! Great planes you are working on! Love the aileron update!
It is a nightmare, more in all the work that has to be done to take the masts of (standing rigging), right the hull, manually bail out the water, drag her back to shore, manually set the masts, rig her, and be ready for the next race. Thanks for watching!
Got to sail on one of these amazing boats when I was in college. I had done a bunch of small boat sailing at the Severn Sailing Association in Annapolis. Solings, International 14's etc. NOTHING is like horsing these beasts around a race course. They will capsize at the dock when the mast is in. Just getting the boat moving was like the Bolshoi Ballet. Truly a great experience.....
@@andrewhuenerberg6969 It's insane how incredibly tippy they are. This season I raced a couple of races on Island Bird (smallest boat in the fleet). The difference between her and Flying Cloud (one of the biggest boats) is astounding. But yeah, capsizing before a race even starts is just the worst.
I couldn't agree more, sailing is never boring as long as I get to be out there with nature and an engine that is not running. Thanks for watching, and the comment.
Used to race half deckers and sailing cruisers on Norfolk Broads, UK ; don’t get too excited as to what we call our lakes and rivers! I used to take Wooden Boat magazine and always wanted to build a Banagat Bay half decker that looked as if it would fit Norfolk conditions admirably. Nothing as extreme as this but good fun. This looks fantastic!
Wow, these are beautiful boats! Looks like loads of fun sailing these. I would have liked to see footage when they tag or jibe. Particularly, I would like to see how they change the sitting boards to the other side.
It is like a ballet to go through tacks and jibes. There is a person that posts videos here on RUclips of some great footage where you can kind of see the board activity. Even a few capsizes and some great start footage. Here is a link to one, maybe that will show you what you would like to see. ruclips.net/video/zlVyMm4qhic/видео.htmlsi=7xkNYKNeajK-0JLh
I had no idea these beautiful boats existed. Nice to see them well turned out and must have an all Dacron rule on the sails. It might get a bit spicy when rounding marks.
Yeah, I struggled with that myself in the beginning, there are actually valid reasons for not wearing them (capsize and being trapped under the sails that quickly will fill with water - and now having to dive down and possibly being caught in the rigging. But I know what you are saying. We usually have 2 chase boats that follow each boat, they have life jackets onboard that they will toss to us as needed. Thanks for watching! (Some guys will actually wear them for the races - but few and far between).
@@andymueller82 I sailed during the 80’s, first with Dave McQuay as skipper, then Allen Noble. I was on the first sail after Dave finished his restoration…the wildest sail I’d ever known. I started out on the main, moved to the foresail, and then the jib. My moment of glory was winning best foresail tender at a Perry Cabin race; I beat Sidney Dickson in a beer chugging contest for the honor. Those were great times.
My apologies for the late reply, I don't believe I know Dave McQuay, but am familiar with the Noble bothers as it pertains to Flying Cloud's history. Great to chat with a former sailor! And a beer chug winner to boot! Love it.
@@andymueller82 Dave McQuay was the boatwright who restored the Flying Cloud to racing form. He was also the grandson of John B. Harrison, designer and builder of the Flying Cloud.
Thank you, yes these are only found on Maryland's Eastern Shore. Back in the day they would pick up the freshly dredged oysters that the Skipjacks harvested. They then would load the oysters onto the log canoes which would "race" them to the market, first boat there set the market price. Years later as the oyster business dwindled down, a few canoe owners started racing these and hence what we know now as log canoe racing was born.
I appreciate your comment more then you can imagine, the first time I went on a log canoe race, I thought "this is insane"! And I was hooked immediately! Thanks for watching and the comment!
Thank you so much, it's so much fun racing these AND being able to get some decent race footage. My crew cuts me a lot of slack since they also enjoy these videos quite a bit.
@@deerfootnz I will be posting more in the 2025 season. I have some more Log Canoe race videos on my channel, not sure if you have watched them, there are some good ones, including sadly when we capsized, which does happen.
They are so much fun, but also require so much work as we literally have to raise the masts manually before the regatta races that weekend. All the running rigging has to be sorted, it requires a crew of dedicated folks and owners for sure.
@@andymueller82 here in Sydney Australia the only class of boats with the hiking-boards (banana boards?) were the Vaucluse Senior and Junior dinghys (VS and VJs), but I've only ever sailed dinghys with wire trapeze. The rigs also interest me on your canoes. I've never sailed a boat that didn't have a boom, only a windsurfer.
@@OwenMichaels Windsurfing was how i got hooked on sailing. I missed out on racing the smaller boats (dinghy's ,Laser's, etc). Got onto a 38ft boat and the crew taught me everything they wanted me to know. Then years later I got invited to race on one of these canoes and was hooked immediately!
I love these old regional one-designs that one sometimes come across. These sailing canoes are very unusual and look like a lot of fun. I wonder if there are any boatbuilders in the Chesapeake area that still build them?
Hi there, thanks for watching and the comment. There are indeed some local builders still building these. There are also a few in various restoration stages, so seems like every other year or so we see another boat on the circuit.
Aren't they great? The "tops" are somewhat similar to a windsurfing sail. It's what we call the kite, and it's great that each boat has their own unique version. Definitely helps with identifying competitor boats. Thanks for the comment and watching!
I will continue to keep shooting, although my skipper does yell at me at times when I don't move fast enough on the boards because I'm capturing footage. I think he secretly likes seeing this too, so I think he cuts me some slack. Thanks for watching and the comment!
Correction my brother in law Johnny Campbell says you weren’t there that week actually. But great video, I got to reminisce my one time being a board man!!!
@@edcotterjr1926 Be sure to check-in, while we often need crew, we also found this last season that we started running only 3 boards, (less crew). It did help with finally securing a race win for Flying Cloud, which was so special.
I have noticed that myself. Glad I can contribute in this small way. There is some pretty awesome drone footage of log canoes being posted. Really enjoying these as it gives such a greater idea of the mayhem at regatta starts.
Too funny, the first time I got to sail on a log canoe was 3 years ago. I had the same exact thought "This is INSANE". Was hooked immediately, started to make it to more races, and even got to experience the dreaded capsize on Flying Cloud last year. So much fun, great people!
I had completely forgotten about the Chesapeake log canoes! As for exciting sailing: Sunfish race to provide the new kids’ their first race. I have 3 guys as crew, young brothers of my sailing friends, ages 8 to 10 (I was 17). A storm rolls in at the start. As the wind rises in gusts and bursts, we round the first mark in the lead by many boat lengths. The reaching mark requires a jibe, or a reverse tack loop. The wind now has to be over 30 knots. I jibe…stupidly. Boat turns turtle spilling all 4 of us into the water. No one is hurt. We right the Sunfish to find the top spar bent horizontal at the mast. Getting everyone aboard, we see the competition closing. Pulling in the sheet, we take off on a broad reach with the sail ballooning awkwardly. The boys shout over the wind dejected remarks as we steadily lose more of our lead. Yet we are screaming to the downwind mark as the race committee announces this is the sole lap due to the weather. Rounding the mark to tack to the finish finds the boat pointing about half as far upwind as an undamaged rig. The wind is even stronger as the rain begins, striking exposed skin like needles, into which we fly. As the competition closes to within a boat length, we cross the finish in first. The boys are ecstatic!
Yes, you have an exciting boat - with a keel! That's what makes log canoes racing so exciting, they are keel less. Hence the springboards and folks for ballast. Quick Tacking and gibing are like a ballet. You mess up - there is a good chance you will capsize.
You are welcome, keep in mind, some of these boats are over 100 years old now! Quite exciting and humbling to be able to take part of Maryland's Eastern Shore tradition when sailing these beautiful boats!@@williamstreet4304
Fantastic video that catches the feeling of racing tricky boats. What happened historically for some of the boats to have quite wide transoms? Canoe implies a canoe stern. I'm not asking to be annoying - just interested in what happened to the designs over time and why the variation appeared. Most obvious reason is more stability.
Very interesting and good catch. I haven't been involved with these boats long enough to understand all of the history. What I do know, is that JAY DEE (Sail#15) has a squared off stern. The boat I race on (Flying Cloud #22) used to have this as well. The Governor's Cup rulebook stated many moons ago that Log Canoes must have a canoe stern to race for that cup. Flying Cloud decided to comply and rebuilt her stern, JAY DEE never did, to this day, she does not race in the Governors Cup. She can and does however race in all of the other Regattas and is quite a competitive and well sailed boat. Can't speak to the size and widths, I suppose different builders just built them differently. Island Bird (#4), for instance, was built in 1892, she is the oldest and smallest boat in the fleet. Hope that helps a little bit, here is a great video from an interview of Judge North, he own 3 of these canoes. It is a great interview: ruclips.net/video/tSwPmWU1GqM/видео.htmlsi=0XOckeU0sABvlk51
Tacks are fast, gibes are slow (by design). Oh my ... the dreaded capsize. It takes hours to "right" the boat and get her ready for the next race, often causing the crew to work through their lunchtime. All of the standing rigging has to be removed (including both masts). the hull has to be righted and the water is removed by guys with 5gal buckets. This alone takes about an hour. Everything is towed back to the dock by the chase crew. Then the masts have to be stepped manually, all rigging secured and you are ready for the next race. I have a video here which depicts our capsize of Flying Cloud last season (towards the end). ruclips.net/video/CG2XzZFFJZ4/видео.html
There is a downhaul halyard, we can control the pitch angle, but yes, it is very much like a windsurfing rig. It's actually on the fore mast, the main mast is the smaller sail in the stern. Thanks for watching and the comment.
Initially designed to haul oysters to market. Winds in the Chesapeake Bay are generally on the light side, but winds are very shifty with lulls and puffs all the time. Absolutely no reefing these sails. And yes, they are truly beautiful.
These boats don't have keels, they are not at all like the traditional monohull. Hence the need for the springboards and the crew acting as moving ballast. Thanks for watching.
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Yeah I know, I struggled with that myself in the beginning. I can now see why most folks don't. Being caught under the sails after a capsize might be better to not have one to get caught up in the rigging, etc.
I used to be a powerboater and sort of thought sailing was not my cup of tea. Been racing sailboats for a little over ten years now and can predict with 99.9% accuracy, that my next boat will be a sailboat. Racing these log canoes is so special to me.
And I thought sailing a classic 12m is cool. This seems to be a step up on the ladder. Funny, that they use the same system like the Bahama sloops to get the weight outside.
That "lounge chair" is not always so safe. Billy P and JAY DEE got entangled at the bumpkin, causing Billy P to capsize while JAY DEE still under full canvas was dragging her. The main sail trimmer got knocked off the bumpkin. Quite the site. There is a great drone video of this: ruclips.net/video/gXXDhoLY7qU/видео.htmlsi=qCmLHYlR3lmh4Oif
That was karma - not for the mizzen trimmer - but for the skipper. Just because you are on starboard doesn't give you the right to hunt down someone trying to keep clear. Though the way you guys like to mix it up, like flagrantly barging at the start, makes the racing more exciting to watch. We want more! Thanks for posting!
I had a non sailing coworker comment the other day suggest that sailing may be boring because the lake is always the same. True... but the wind is always different. Thats what non sailors dont get. Its not about the lake. Its about the wind.
Yes, and just after you got the sail trim sorted and moving along nicely, the wind direction changes by 20degrees ... LOL. I used to be a power boater, never really "got" the sailing thing, got lucky to get involved with Wednesday Night Racing for 10yrs now, not sure I would own a powerboat again.
These boats are simply amazing in construction, their history, etc. I could highly recommend to maybe look at this RUclips video, where the gentleman that owns 3 of these boats is interviewed. ruclips.net/video/tSwPmWU1GqM/видео.htmlsi=PMb2PWND4mqBSodk
Not at all, the idea is to have these keel less log canoes be heeled to where the leeward rail just touches the waterline. Sometimes it means everyone is out on the boards, and sometimes you will see only one person manning the boards with everyone else "squelched" down on the leeward side. Really depends on the prevailing wind.
Happens every race, usually one or two boats will capsize. Sometimes it is caused by the sudden wind shift, wind shadow from another boat, etc. Just can't get the springboards and folks (ballast) moved as quickly as it is needed, and over she goes. Totally sucks when it happens, as you now have to de-rig the boat (masts), drag everything ashore and re-rig for the next race. Thanks for watching and the comment.
Boring! Anyone who has stood on the pointy end of a big yacht during a serious race start knows that it is one the noisiest, most hectic places in existence! Exhilarating.😁
They are called Chesapeake Bay Log Canoes. Nothing canoe about them, it refers to the dugout build technique which started with a single log. Here is a pretty good link that explains them further. www.milesriveryc.org/chesapeake-bay-log-canoes
Demolition Derby? Collisions are rare but they do occur. There usually will be protests to the race committee and the offending boat will be disqualified for the race, so generally they are avoided.
I have raced for some years now, including some off-shore stuff. Racing Log Canoes for me personally is about as much excitement as I've had on the water. Thanks for watching and the comment!
OMFG. Talk about a missed opportunity. Anytime you have a vessel with this much canvas, self trimming ballast, slim long water lines and an enthusiastic class and you tell me its not boring..... BUT THEN you show a light wind day for the example of "not boring" (?) Damn go back and do it again when the conditions warrent a raised heart rate.
That is the beautiful thing about racing in the rivers of the Chesapeake Bay ... "wait 10 minutes and the wind (weather) will change". The "light wind day" was literally maybe for an hour during that race. Then heart rates were up again!
I used to race Formula cars, now I race sailboats. Honestly, the boats are more thrilling. Hard to describe that feeling to non sailors! These boats look like a blast!
Big F1 fan here, but yes I can only imagine what one of those starts must be like. Regatta starts for for me personally are just a thrill! Great planes you are working on! Love the aileron update!
Capsizing one of these looks like a nightmare !
It is a nightmare, more in all the work that has to be done to take the masts of (standing rigging), right the hull, manually bail out the water, drag her back to shore, manually set the masts, rig her, and be ready for the next race. Thanks for watching!
That is an insane amount of sail area! But they look absolutely beautiful!
Considering some are over 100 years old, so much work goes into them to keep them as beautiful and race worthy as we can.
Got to sail on one of these amazing boats when I was in college. I had done a bunch of small boat sailing at the Severn Sailing Association in Annapolis. Solings, International 14's etc. NOTHING is like horsing these beasts around a race course. They will capsize at the dock when the mast is in. Just getting the boat moving was like the Bolshoi Ballet. Truly a great experience.....
Great comment, you can appreciate how "tippy" these are. You should come out with us again!
@@andymueller82 yessir! One time we didn't even make the start before we capsized. No recovering from that, just a tow back to shore....😊
@@andrewhuenerberg6969 It's insane how incredibly tippy they are. This season I raced a couple of races on Island Bird (smallest boat in the fleet). The difference between her and Flying Cloud (one of the biggest boats) is astounding. But yeah, capsizing before a race even starts is just the worst.
those boats look like a blast
They truly are. Have never sailed anything this exciting.
Sailing is never booring, even in light winds. Interesting boats.
I couldn't agree more, sailing is never boring as long as I get to be out there with nature and an engine that is not running. Thanks for watching, and the comment.
I had such a wonderful season sailing on these "canoes" with Brad J and his crew. Crazy down river sprints and no prisoner starts. Brilliant!
It is a bit addicting, isn't it? Hope you will be out there next season as well! Thanks for watching! Which canoe were you on?
Amazing racing timing the counterbalance at the exact time when it’s needed!
Timing is everything!
I wept with joy whan I saw this. Thanks.
Love your comment! Thank you so much!
Used to race half deckers and sailing cruisers on Norfolk Broads, UK ; don’t get too excited as to what we call our lakes and rivers! I used to take Wooden Boat magazine and always wanted to build a Banagat Bay half decker that looked as if it would fit Norfolk conditions admirably. Nothing as extreme as this but good fun. This looks fantastic!
Love your comment! Thanks for watching!
Hiking planks on big heavy boats like these is nuts and fabulous all at once!! And those rigs???
Thanks so much for posting this...
Thank you watching! And the comment. It is almost "insanity", I guess that is why we like it so much!
What a graceful design. Amazing!
Thank you for watching and the comment!
Wow, these boats are spectacular!
They truly are! And so much history with each single boat. And some great crews on all of them. Thanks for watching, and the comment!
And I thought those outisland Bahamians could max- out a waterline , just beautiful !
These also max out the waterline ... sometimes a bit too much.
Wow, these are beautiful boats! Looks like loads of fun sailing these. I would have liked to see footage when they tag or jibe. Particularly, I would like to see how they change the sitting boards to the other side.
It is like a ballet to go through tacks and jibes. There is a person that posts videos here on RUclips of some great footage where you can kind of see the board activity. Even a few capsizes and some great start footage. Here is a link to one, maybe that will show you what you would like to see.
ruclips.net/video/zlVyMm4qhic/видео.htmlsi=7xkNYKNeajK-0JLh
I had no idea these beautiful boats existed. Nice to see them well turned out and must have an all Dacron rule on the sails. It might get a bit spicy when rounding marks.
Great comment, and YES spicy at roundings, but even worse at the start! Thanks for watching!
Interesting seeing the balanced jib setup. No winches needed, just a light touch on the sheet.
Yup, you got it! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for this. As an SF Bay sailer including on Bird Boats (now racing more than 100 years), I've always been curious how the log canoes worked.
Glad you liked it! These are quite amazing to sail, and especially to race. So much fun!
not a life vest among them, brilliant
Yeah, I struggled with that myself in the beginning, there are actually valid reasons for not wearing them (capsize and being trapped under the sails that quickly will fill with water - and now having to dive down and possibly being caught in the rigging. But I know what you are saying. We usually have 2 chase boats that follow each boat, they have life jackets onboard that they will toss to us as needed. Thanks for watching! (Some guys will actually wear them for the races - but few and far between).
As a former Flying Cloud crew member, this video brings back many fond memories. Thank you!
You are so welcome! When did you race on her? Who was the skipper?
@@andymueller82 I sailed during the 80’s, first with Dave McQuay as skipper, then Allen Noble. I was on the first sail after Dave finished his restoration…the wildest sail I’d ever known. I started out on the main, moved to the foresail, and then the jib. My moment of glory was winning best foresail tender at a Perry Cabin race; I beat Sidney Dickson in a beer chugging contest for the honor. Those were great times.
My apologies for the late reply, I don't believe I know Dave McQuay, but am familiar with the Noble bothers as it pertains to Flying Cloud's history. Great to chat with a former sailor! And a beer chug winner to boot! Love it.
@@andymueller82 Dave McQuay was the boatwright who restored the Flying Cloud to racing form. He was also the grandson of John B. Harrison, designer and builder of the Flying Cloud.
Wow. I've been sailing my whole life, and I've never seen these. We don't have anything like them in the UK. Fantastic sailing.
Thank you, yes these are only found on Maryland's Eastern Shore. Back in the day they would pick up the freshly dredged oysters that the Skipjacks harvested. They then would load the oysters onto the log canoes which would "race" them to the market, first boat there set the market price. Years later as the oyster business dwindled down, a few canoe owners started racing these and hence what we know now as log canoe racing was born.
Been racing for over 50 years so I say this with all due reverence... You guys are nuckin' futs!
I appreciate your comment more then you can imagine, the first time I went on a log canoe race, I thought "this is insane"! And I was hooked immediately! Thanks for watching and the comment!
I have seen photos of these both before but never video. This is wonderful. You have a new subscriber.
Thank you so much, I do appreciate it!
Beautiful little boats
They really are, thank you for watching!
Magnificent yachts.. I would love to go sailing on one of them anytime... whoooo hoooo....
We are often look for crew, so come on out!
@@andymueller82I would love to but I am in Melbourne Australia.. just a bit far for an arvo sail... thanks for the offer tho.
That would be a good sail just to get here! I understand!@@TimsBitsnPieces
Gorgeous. Never had the pleasure but back in the day I would have followed along on my lazer. Good job shooting.
Thank you so much for the comment! Lazers are so much fun too!
Extraordinaire et pour tout dire magnifiques voiliers
Merci d'avoir regardé, ces voiliers sont vraiment magnifiques !
Not seen these boats before, they're very beautiful.
They truly are! Thank you for watching and the comment!
Great stuff. Good day out on the water. Especially, getting a group of people that size together and enjoying the fresh air with each other.
Couldn't agree more! Well said! Thanks for commenting and watching!
Fantastic footage!
Thank you so much, it's so much fun racing these AND being able to get some decent race footage. My crew cuts me a lot of slack since they also enjoy these videos quite a bit.
@andymueller82 you guys look like you are having fun! I want more!
@@deerfootnz I will be posting more in the 2025 season. I have some more Log Canoe race videos on my channel, not sure if you have watched them, there are some good ones, including sadly when we capsized, which does happen.
@andymueller82 I certainly will watch
Thanks for posting. I've never seen this class of boat before. They look like great fun to sail.
They are so much fun, but also require so much work as we literally have to raise the masts manually before the regatta races that weekend. All the running rigging has to be sorted, it requires a crew of dedicated folks and owners for sure.
@@andymueller82 here in Sydney Australia the only class of boats with the hiking-boards (banana boards?) were the Vaucluse Senior and Junior dinghys (VS and VJs), but I've only ever sailed dinghys with wire trapeze. The rigs also interest me on your canoes. I've never sailed a boat that didn't have a boom, only a windsurfer.
@@OwenMichaels Windsurfing was how i got hooked on sailing. I missed out on racing the smaller boats (dinghy's ,Laser's, etc). Got onto a 38ft boat and the crew taught me everything they wanted me to know. Then years later I got invited to race on one of these canoes and was hooked immediately!
Fantastic Andy!
Thank you so much!
Looks like some serious fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is so much fun! I'm so happy to have gotten involved with these. Thanks for watching!
I love these old regional one-designs that one sometimes come across. These sailing canoes are very unusual and look like a lot of fun. I wonder if there are any boatbuilders in the Chesapeake area that still build them?
Hi there, thanks for watching and the comment. There are indeed some local builders still building these. There are also a few in various restoration stages, so seems like every other year or so we see another boat on the circuit.
That was great! Thanks for sharing.
You are so welcome. I rather enjoyed getting the footage!
I've heard about these most of my life and have never seen or especially be on one! Love the tops'l logos! Gr8 videography Andy
Aren't they great? The "tops" are somewhat similar to a windsurfing sail. It's what we call the kite, and it's great that each boat has their own unique version. Definitely helps with identifying competitor boats. Thanks for the comment and watching!
Nice to see new footage from onboard. Well done, keep shooting!
I will continue to keep shooting, although my skipper does yell at me at times when I don't move fast enough on the boards because I'm capturing footage. I think he secretly likes seeing this too, so I think he cuts me some slack. Thanks for watching and the comment!
Great video. Proud to say I’ve had the honor of sailing with you. I was the “guest John” few weeks back!!
Correction my brother in law Johnny Campbell says you weren’t there that week actually. But great video, I got to reminisce my one time being a board man!!!
I think I was there, had a few laughs over Ken referring to you as Guest John. That was the Cambridge race weekend?
Please come back and do it again with us! It is a ton of fun!
What extraordinary boats. Out of this world sail plans. Loved the video.
The sail plan is amazing, great that other appreciate that as well! Thanks for the comment!
Was that my classmate at Navy, Ken Reightler, at the helm?
That indeed is Ken Reightler at the helm. I have been racing with Ken on Flying Cloud for 4 years now, he's a great guy!
@@andymueller82 Awesome. I may be able to join you next season.
@@edcotterjr1926 Be sure to check-in, while we often need crew, we also found this last season that we started running only 3 boards, (less crew). It did help with finally securing a race win for Flying Cloud, which was so special.
Nothing like pure Mother Nature and harnessing her power!
There truly is nothing like it. Thanks for watching and the comment!
Wow amazing to see so many of them on the water together.
It truly is great to see. So many dedicated crew and owners keeping this tradition alive. Thanks for watching, and the comment!
I saw island bird and persistence in 2019 log canoe regatta at Cambridge Yacht Club!
Pretty neat to watch, isn't it? Thanks for watching and the comment!
Friends I introduce to sail either love it or hate it...
Same here, as a former power boater I have many friends that don't "get" sailing, and so many more that do.
Thanks for sharing - there are not many high quality log canoe race videos available!
I have noticed that myself. Glad I can contribute in this small way. There is some pretty awesome drone footage of log canoes being posted. Really enjoying these as it gives such a greater idea of the mayhem at regatta starts.
quite the unusual riggs!
They are quite unusual indeed. And so rare of a breed. Humbled to be able to race them.
That's truly insane, I love it😊
Too funny, the first time I got to sail on a log canoe was 3 years ago. I had the same exact thought "This is INSANE". Was hooked immediately, started to make it to more races, and even got to experience the dreaded capsize on Flying Cloud last year. So much fun, great people!
I had completely forgotten about the Chesapeake log canoes!
As for exciting sailing:
Sunfish race to provide the new kids’ their first race. I have 3 guys as crew, young brothers of my sailing friends, ages 8 to 10 (I was 17). A storm rolls in at the start. As the wind rises in gusts and bursts, we round the first mark in the lead by many boat lengths. The reaching mark requires a jibe, or a reverse tack loop. The wind now has to be over 30 knots. I jibe…stupidly. Boat turns turtle spilling all 4 of us into the water. No one is hurt. We right the Sunfish to find the top spar bent horizontal at the mast. Getting everyone aboard, we see the competition closing. Pulling in the sheet, we take off on a broad reach with the sail ballooning awkwardly. The boys shout over the wind dejected remarks as we steadily lose more of our lead. Yet we are screaming to the downwind mark as the race committee announces this is the sole lap due to the weather. Rounding the mark to tack to the finish finds the boat pointing about half as far upwind as an undamaged rig. The wind is even stronger as the rain begins, striking exposed skin like needles, into which we fly. As the competition closes to within a boat length, we cross the finish in first. The boys are ecstatic!
What a great re-cap! Pretty darn amazing!
@@andymueller82 Thanks Andy. It was screaming awesome hairy fun. Fastest I’ve sailed in a Sunfish. I’m sure you’ve wild stories to share as well.
Wow! That looks like even more excitement than our FT 10m in 20 knts of wind.
Yes, you have an exciting boat - with a keel! That's what makes log canoes racing so exciting, they are keel less. Hence the springboards and folks for ballast. Quick Tacking and gibing are like a ballet. You mess up - there is a good chance you will capsize.
@@andymueller82 Thanks for that explanation. I'd never seen them before.
You are welcome, keep in mind, some of these boats are over 100 years old now! Quite exciting and humbling to be able to take part of Maryland's Eastern Shore tradition when sailing these beautiful boats!@@williamstreet4304
Fantastic video that catches the feeling of racing tricky boats. What happened historically for some of the boats to have quite wide transoms? Canoe implies a canoe stern. I'm not asking to be annoying - just interested in what happened to the designs over time and why the variation appeared. Most obvious reason is more stability.
Very interesting and good catch. I haven't been involved with these boats long enough to understand all of the history. What I do know, is that JAY DEE (Sail#15) has a squared off stern. The boat I race on (Flying Cloud #22) used to have this as well. The Governor's Cup rulebook stated many moons ago that Log Canoes must have a canoe stern to race for that cup. Flying Cloud decided to comply and rebuilt her stern, JAY DEE never did, to this day, she does not race in the Governors Cup. She can and does however race in all of the other Regattas and is quite a competitive and well sailed boat. Can't speak to the size and widths, I suppose different builders just built them differently. Island Bird (#4), for instance, was built in 1892, she is the oldest and smallest boat in the fleet. Hope that helps a little bit, here is a great video from an interview of Judge North, he own 3 of these canoes. It is a great interview:
ruclips.net/video/tSwPmWU1GqM/видео.htmlsi=0XOckeU0sABvlk51
looks like fun racing, still able to tack somewhat quickly? i wonder what does it take to right them back up after a capsize?
Tacks are fast, gibes are slow (by design). Oh my ... the dreaded capsize. It takes hours to "right" the boat and get her ready for the next race, often causing the crew to work through their lunchtime. All of the standing rigging has to be removed (including both masts). the hull has to be righted and the water is removed by guys with 5gal buckets. This alone takes about an hour. Everything is towed back to the dock by the chase crew. Then the masts have to be stepped manually, all rigging secured and you are ready for the next race. I have a video here which depicts our capsize of Flying Cloud last season (towards the end).
ruclips.net/video/CG2XzZFFJZ4/видео.html
What a strange rig. I wonder how you trim the top sail, looking as a windsurf rig, at the top of the main mast.
There is a downhaul halyard, we can control the pitch angle, but yes, it is very much like a windsurfing rig. It's actually on the fore mast, the main mast is the smaller sail in the stern. Thanks for watching and the comment.
are those Oxen blocks on the jib sheets?
I don't believe they are, but they do resemble them a bit.
This design looks to have been intended especially for light winds. Is that correct? No reef points, hardly any freeboard. (Very beautiful, tho').
Initially designed to haul oysters to market. Winds in the Chesapeake Bay are generally on the light side, but winds are very shifty with lulls and puffs all the time. Absolutely no reefing these sails. And yes, they are truly beautiful.
Why didn’t the knocked down boat right itself? I was under the impression that monohulls right themselves basically immediately…
These boats don't have keels, they are not at all like the traditional monohull. Hence the need for the springboards and the crew acting as moving ballast. Thanks for watching.
On the Chesapeake, we always called the spinnaker a 'kite'. Perhaps that's the origin of the term
Interesting thought. You might be on to something there!
Moin, liebster André,
Durch Zufall in dein Video gelangt.
Da ich gleich los muß, schaue und höre ich es später.
Ist sicher auch aufm PC?
Bin im Vollstreß.
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No PFDs?
Yeah I know, I struggled with that myself in the beginning. I can now see why most folks don't. Being caught under the sails after a capsize might be better to not have one to get caught up in the rigging, etc.
nope never thought that only watching cus i wonder what the vid will show
I used to be a powerboater and sort of thought sailing was not my cup of tea. Been racing sailboats for a little over ten years now and can predict with 99.9% accuracy, that my next boat will be a sailboat. Racing these log canoes is so special to me.
@@andymueller82 nice
That is a huge crew...! Personally 49ers, Moths, are a bit more exciting. ;P
The boat I race on has a crew of about 20. There are some smaller boats that only have a crew of 6 or 7.
And I thought sailing a classic 12m is cool. This seems to be a step up on the ladder. Funny, that they use the same system like the Bahama sloops to get the weight outside.
Yes you are correct, fairly similar setup as the Bahamian Sloop. About as close to a Chesapeake log canoe there is.
Thanks for watching!
Pretty sure I would flip it the first time steering. Just put me in that lounge chair trimming the mizzen!
That "lounge chair" is not always so safe. Billy P and JAY DEE got entangled at the bumpkin, causing Billy P to capsize while JAY DEE still under full canvas was dragging her. The main sail trimmer got knocked off the bumpkin. Quite the site. There is a great drone video of this: ruclips.net/video/gXXDhoLY7qU/видео.htmlsi=qCmLHYlR3lmh4Oif
That was karma - not for the mizzen trimmer - but for the skipper. Just because you are on starboard doesn't give you the right to hunt down someone trying to keep clear. Though the way you guys like to mix it up, like flagrantly barging at the start, makes the racing more exciting to watch. We want more! Thanks for posting!
Nice seeing so many life jackets
I know, I struggled with that also, I understand now why we don't.
I had a non sailing coworker comment the other day suggest that sailing may be boring because the lake is always the same. True... but the wind is always different. Thats what non sailors dont get. Its not about the lake. Its about the wind.
Yes, and just after you got the sail trim sorted and moving along nicely, the wind direction changes by 20degrees ... LOL. I used to be a power boater, never really "got" the sailing thing, got lucky to get involved with Wednesday Night Racing for 10yrs now, not sure I would own a powerboat again.
Tell us more. I've never seen boats of this kind before.
These boats are simply amazing in construction, their history, etc. I could highly recommend to maybe look at this RUclips video, where the gentleman that owns 3 of these boats is interviewed.
ruclips.net/video/tSwPmWU1GqM/видео.htmlsi=PMb2PWND4mqBSodk
So, the object is to have the most people sailing outside the boat?
Not at all, the idea is to have these keel less log canoes be heeled to where the leeward rail just touches the waterline. Sometimes it means everyone is out on the boards, and sometimes you will see only one person manning the boards with everyone else "squelched" down on the leeward side. Really depends on the prevailing wind.
The toughest job has the guy with the bucket..
LOL - we all take turns, whomever isn't doing anything race related, will generally help with bailing duties.
Ingen har flytväst
Ja, jag kämpade med det också. Det finns faktiskt giltiga skäl för att inte bära en (kapsejsa och bli instängd under seglen).
Yes. Next
Thanks for watching anyway!
Love the spill.Pushing a little to hard.
Happens every race, usually one or two boats will capsize. Sometimes it is caused by the sudden wind shift, wind shadow from another boat, etc. Just can't get the springboards and folks (ballast) moved as quickly as it is needed, and over she goes. Totally sucks when it happens, as you now have to de-rig the boat (masts), drag everything ashore and re-rig for the next race. Thanks for watching and the comment.
Dudes.
Dudes - for sure (and some lady's too)
Boring! Anyone who has stood on the pointy end of a big yacht during a serious race start knows that it is one the noisiest, most hectic places in existence! Exhilarating.😁
Exhilarating is truly the best way to describe it! You get it!
They aren’t exactly log canoes. Barely canoes at all. Still, beautiful boats
They are called Chesapeake Bay Log Canoes. Nothing canoe about them, it refers to the dugout build technique which started with a single log. Here is a pretty good link that explains them further.
www.milesriveryc.org/chesapeake-bay-log-canoes
The moment this becomes the norm of every day sailing, it is the day I stop sailing. Seriously, it is supposed to be fun, not a demolition derby.
Demolition Derby? Collisions are rare but they do occur. There usually will be protests to the race committee and the offending boat will be disqualified for the race, so generally they are avoided.
No it’s not boring, but then it’s not really exciting either depends on the hull, these look like more fun than most.
I have raced for some years now, including some off-shore stuff. Racing Log Canoes for me personally is about as much excitement as I've had on the water. Thanks for watching and the comment!
OMFG. Talk about a missed opportunity. Anytime you have a vessel with this much canvas, self trimming ballast, slim long water lines and an enthusiastic class and you tell me its not boring..... BUT THEN you show a light wind day for the example of "not boring" (?) Damn go back and do it again when the conditions warrent a raised heart rate.
That is the beautiful thing about racing in the rivers of the Chesapeake Bay ... "wait 10 minutes and the wind (weather) will change". The "light wind day" was literally maybe for an hour during that race. Then heart rates were up again!
Not at all.
Couldn't agree more.
Another amazing RUclips video ruined by annoying music.
Personally I do like the music. I think it would be too "slow" without it, but again, that is just my opinion. Thanks for watching!
That dramatic music is so annoying and unnecessary.
Thank you very much, maybe turn the volume down?
Very boring. Like watching paint dry.
Or watching corn grow!
Boooooring!
It's about as boring as watching paint dry! LOL