A very important point. Xoli woke up in the only city around South Africa that is managed well, crime and litter free and most importantly a town that works.
Not sure how we missed this. Because this community has it's own system and values that keeps it running smoothly and i'm sure whatever issues they face are dealt with in a way consistent with their laws/rules.
@@MegaNdela they alos dont elect corrupt communist criminals to lead them. (Note i say lead not "rule" like the ANC likes to say... people think the anc are kings... or dictators. They dont understand what a democracy actually is)
@@gstar3569 Methinks it's been revealed, proven and there's general widespread consensus on what the ANC is or has become. I don't dismiss your entry but am not sure it merits mentioning a movement so repugnant and deplorable - to drive your point home. I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but I have often wondered/doubted if the ballot is the way out of the mess we're in, or whether civil disobedience may be the remedy. Back to the Orania thing: There are most definitely a few important lessons to be taken here - in terms of accountability and governance. Thanks
It is already a prosperous place, with schools, a hospital, shops of all kinds, play parks, a beautiful garden nursery,lots of places to eat....etc... I know what I am speaking about...I have been there for a holiday! Every one is friendly and courtious ...like I will say in Afrikaans" Ordentlike,gasvrye, beskaafde,vriendelike mense!!" Dit was lekker om by julle te kuier! Van Houtbaai by die see!🌹❤👍👍🎼🎶🎵🎹
If that was a black town in a white Country they would’ve burned it down. White hate black prosperity . The government needs to get rid of them. They will be starting a war soon trying to start another apartheid tide.
@@liwilelilungwe858Ofcourse it's inevitable because they are already self reliant. They are only waiting for their population to grow and strengthen the local economy. Orania is Lesotho in the making. In 40 years they'll be richer and stronger than the rest of South Africa.
I am black South Africa and i fully support this community. whatever they are doing is what defines South Africa (Diversity - from different colours of our flag).
@MG I guess you don’t know really much about live TV interview and I’m not surprise if you were born during our dark past. Anyway he was checking his questions and we don’t use papers anymore. You have to keep conversation flowing dumb ass
@@tjradebe5204 i full understand but the time spent looking down at his phone is far too long and that makes it look unprofessional. Its also very clear that I was born before you...as that can be seen by the lack of your respect. Yoyr fikthy manners and name calling shows that you were birn into a generation that knows no respect and cannot debate a matter without having the manners of pigs.
I'm Black South African and to be honest I really like how these men protects their culture In my culture we do have Basotho Cultural Village They simply non-European
That's beautiful. I enjoy learning about other cultures. I am white and raised in an Afrikaans household, but I married an English man. I see my culture as English. We are both white and I don't think we would be able to live in Orania as we do not identify with the culture as they do. We love the wider South African culture like braai, socializing and my husband loves watching soccer. So we celebrate our own culture, but also the shared culture between all of us.
@@donnybrasco1601 that's definatly not on me but if you're not from South Africa but I'll say it's our national problem that has to be dealt with thoroughly All races and cultures deserves to be honoured and respected beastly regardless of what happened in the passed
I'm not white, but I'm proud of them for what they have created, I wish I could live there. It does feel good to live amongst your own culture. Well done Orania, I hope and Pray that jealousy of other races and culture don't try to damage you.
Earl M William - There's a lot of context you need to include in your thought process regarding Orania. Consider the history of South Africa and its inhuman Apartheid laws. For Example, Germany can never celebrate Hitler, period. Orania should not exists in South Africa, its highly insensitive to the history and land disposition blacks suffered.
@Kuben Vengetas - U raise very good points, I agree with most by the way. Black South Africans are not driven by revenge contrary to common White beliefs. Black South Africans need reparation. Its a false democracy if your previous oppressor doesn't acknowledge the wrong doings and most importantly 'NOT offer reparation. In 1994 Whites did not loose the ill profited land and wealth. I don't see a'lot of White South Africans today willing to relinquish the privileged position given to them by former Apartheid laws. Blacks South African, must forgive and forget. We can forgive, but never forget. An all white state like Orania in South Africa should never promoted.
@@Siya4k Wait, the guy just said the laws disenfrenchize them in terms of jobs and education and you yet blame them for moving away from the majority who disenfrenchize them and building their own stuff? First you force themselves away then bitch they went away wtf?
Yeah, I don't really have my own specific culture so dont fully understand cultures, but I guess if what they say is legitimately true and based on culture not race, I don't see any issue.
Then you are probably a pretty decent person. Educate yourself, we are LIED to CONSTANTLY and we keep thinking something sounds true but if you REALLY examine it you will see that if one thing is true, then another thing, can by extension NOT be..... but these conflicting "truths" are BOTH seen and FELT to be true (This doesn't make it so) and when this happens, YOU may not be aware of it but YOUR back brain, your subconscious IS aware and it causes PROBLEMS with your thinking/rationalizing. It affects your understanding of reality, a serious matter. It is done to you on PURPOSE. When you CHOOSE to accept a lie and live under it in silence, it SHAMES you and it HURTS you. That's why it's done to you, that and for the POWER it gives them over you. History in South Africa is well documented and IGNORED in favor of these LIES now told in it's place. The evil agenda is EVERYTHING
@@the_muser7105 no but us afrikaners arent just whites, we have a unifying culture and history, even language. I wished the anchor at the beginning said Afrikaner town, as there arent english speakers either
Black people have lived in Europe for centuries and can never be allowed to have their own community where they have schools teaching in an African language. This is crazy
We need some to just try it... >Talent is the willingness to try plus time Growing a few carrots or beans (R40 seeds can make like 10kg of vegetables, at least) is easy But you gotta get your hands dirty for that And maybe read up if your plant shows some strange signs, which is hard if you're not so good with english You have to be the change you want to see, do you want to farm? :)
You are very famous for the wrong reasons such as xenophobia, rape, murder, robberies day and night. For all doctors specialising in Trauma the best place to pla e and train is South Africa cause violence is rife
Do u know that they have Young Soldiers that are being trained in Orania Specifically to kill Blacks. They have a camp that is training young boys to hate blacks. Just imagine they say whites only they are flippin racist. They still use the slogan of Evil of Apartheid. KKKKKL EFF IS COMING FOR U GUYS
@Tony Hakai, They bealive in Hendrick Vervoed ideology, a man very prominent in South African history. What more to study. If you black, you might need camera's to go there like Xoli. These leaders might portray an inclusive ideology, but the problem their followers might see you as an unwanted human being because of the colour of your skin. Which is what their admired leader, Hendrick Vervoed bealived.
Everyone has the right to live and practice their own culture however they see fit as long as it is within the confines of the law. If you don't like it don't live there.
There shouldn't be any white only exclusive town in an African land they will develop muscle enough to control the whole south africa again and start claiming more. Give it 50 to 100 years and it will be like Israeli-Palestinian issue. If you spoil one of your son by giving him everything he wants and leave him alone he will rebel and think he is better and want to enslave the others.They should assimilate and live with every one else. if they claim they have a good culture of governance they should also share it and teach it to fellow south Africans. if they actually believe they are south Africans, These people will claim to be their own independent country in few years and there is no stopping them. I say leave them alone but they should not be allowed to self governance and own the land or what ever, the land should always belong to the south african government but they can live there pay taxes to the government and guided by the constitutiona nd the school curriculum.
"whites-only town" is incorrect label. It is Afrikaner-only town. I'm European and I can't live in Orania. I don't speak Afrikaans and I'm not an Afrikaner.
@Brick Topp you are one of the few people that make sense on this issue, how can you have a segregated white community in the middle of Africa that was established by the descendants of colonizers.
With the failed state like South Africa, can you blame Afrikaners for wanting self-determination. Leave them alone, it is their universal right to create a destiny they want for themselves. I really respect them for their will-power to start things amid insurmountable challenges. Perhaps minority groups should go for a referundum for such.
Errol Motau. They were the ones who caused the failure. Oranjestad ( lager) won't be SUCCESSFUL. In all the years that they've been going they only have a couple of thousand members. It's because they are hard core apartheid thinkers who have always suffered from zenphobia and alethophobia. ...and their crimes internally in their lager are rising.....G'day from Australia 🇦🇺
All of us South Africans, black or white we can learn or take something from Orania, they have a community that works, adhere to the rules set, can't we all aspire to be like them, we can all co-exist in a peaceful country where there is no crime, fair, equal chance to all, working systems and adhering to rules, but with crime, corruption, and no dignity in labour, lots of Orania towns and expensive estates will keep on thriving
Exactly!!. But look at some of our black people replies dude, they all just jumping to shout "racism " "racism" . All of us black people have our own homelands, Zulu, Xhosa, Venda..etc. we can learn so much on how to develop ourselves than thinking development is in cities & town & sending our kids to town schools & everything, we are so dependent & Orania shows how U can be independent as a homeland/village.
@@cfctoyko9649 Yes I totally agree with you, you right 100%. Everyone can live anywhere in South Africa but Orania is exclusive to Afrikaaners culture Only. Reason they are able to do that is bcz Orania is built on private land & doing everything with the law under the constitution. So maybe we should question our constitution bcz they are not braking any law.
You think that apartheid is something to be emulated? They have only retreated to this after their apartheid ideologies have been overturned by the Ubuntu spirit of South Africans. They are pretenders.
@Gloria Garcia And that wasn't even the point of the comment. I am criticizing the journalistic etiquette on display here. Instead of producing a race-baiting hit piece, how about they interview victims of farm murders and report on the government's implicit support of farm murders? Now there is a news-worthy story.
@@southafricannewschannel1988 So savage black-on-black violence and land-grabbing aren't considered crimes? The Bantu tribes were brutally intolerant, xenophobic and territorial long before Europeans arrived. Again, not the point of my comment anyway.
This video, in its entirety is exceptionally interesting to me. Uplifting too. The decorum portrayed by interviewer and interviewees is a significant 'structure' in and of itself in that this proves to all not only in South Africa, but across the world, that in spite of history (good or bad), personal preferences, ideologies, dreams and aspirations, level headed human beings CAN respect one another's differences and "agree to disagree". Of further significance is the fact that this piece of land is otherwise arid and from an agricultural perspective, provides far greater challenges than what a genuinely fertile area might provide. The significance of course, is that the human being CAN with determination, co-operation and fervent endeavour under God's grace, prosper against seemingly impossible odds. Very much enjoyed: Thank you!
Give the residents the power they in the past and ul see a different face of the humble beast... the only reason they agree to disagree with the majority is because they don’t have another choice... this is racist nothing more nothing less
@@nivzar740 You know, this is innocent, but I just wanted to say, if the whites agreed to the electric-sharing plan of Mandela among other national securities, and in return they got to go back their thoughts of a meritocratic system, in at least as far as the political choice of certain regions of their "meritocratic system," even inviting more Europeans to settle, would it be worth it to live in a nation capable of building it's own nuclear power-plants again, than waiting for them to be completed and shipped from other nations in 2033 at the earliest?
1) 682 comments No one here has a problem with Chinese buying land here, creating Chinese communities, creating motherland China wealth, creating police stations, "friendly" exposure of their exclusive culture, building and creating their own statues and cultural heritage, selling their motherland goods only, creating "taxless" wealth..... 2) I haven't heard in any similar interviews anyone from this community complaining or protesting about service delivery, begging or pleading for a bail- or handout or freebie. 3) This community live / co-exist in harmony and peacefull neighbouring with everyone around.... no word about landtheft or expropriation .... only creating communal success and progress. 4) Similar interviews disclose functional and maintained infrastructure built for and by the community. I presume the community also paid for it and therefore cherish it for the future development of this community..... 5) It seems to me that this community achieves their goals with their own initiatives and foresight lead their day to day existence. 6) This community it seems, live sparsely and survive off this barren stretch of desertlike arid land and excell in their efforts to create opportunities. 7) It seems, the critics here envy and expropriate like the rest of the country. It seems that the community supports one another, rather than relying on their government to provide support systems. It seems as if this community is building a future for themselves from / out of nothing. To me therefore, it is a no brainer..... this ccommunity should be an example to each one of the rainbow nation to create similar self sufficient communities for the benefit of the country as a whole and therefore be left to write the textbook of how to be successful amongs animosity from critics I can't see any wrong, besides that I can't live there to share their expertise to enrich my own understanding of cultural success. I hope their successes will encourage communities to follow in their footsteps
You said well that Chinese came and "bought" land. They are not the beneficiaries of imperial proceeds like these folks. It's not about racism, it's about whether you got to Africa legitimately. All the developments they have done in Africa cannot pay for the blood of a single person they killed.
Just like all of us, they want a place call home. A place were the Afrikaner can display his/her heritage, believes and languages. Just like me, or any of us can go to our respective communities eat our traditional food, speak in away how we speak, play in way, what we know. Stop thinking with your skin and think with your brain. Leave the people alone, they don't do anyone harm.
@@bullmarketstalkshow6977 we africans it angers us. they belong in europe. africans have no special heritage land in europe. they anger africans intensely, it wont be peaceful there.
@@blackiqexercise2805 Speak for yourself, I'm South Africa, just like all us, you included. This beautiful land belong to all us and everybody must participate, not certain people.
@@bullmarketstalkshow6977 YOU CANT DO THE NAZI HAND THING BECAUSE IT IS AGAINST THE LAW BECAUSE IT REMINDS ITS VICTIMS OF THE MASS KILLINGS OF MANY JEWISH PEOPLE. IT IS THE SAME CASE HERE, THEY CANNOT CREATE A EUROPEANS ONLY AREA IN SOUTH AFRICA.
The true afrikaans culture does not exclude other people. The problem came when "their ways" was forced upon other people, and the Dutch people, are totally 100% different, but apart from that preserving their language and culture is good, i would also preserve my Ndebele culture aswell
Couldn't agree more... we should be allowed to have self determination, let Xhosa people be Xhosa, Zulus be Zulu, Afrikaaners be Afrikaans. This would be a far better way for us to exist together in this country, as cultural states or provinces, with the ability to freely move, but when you are in a Xhosa area , or Ndebele or Afrikaans, or English... you abide by those rules and practises!
I'm black but I'm with orania...they want their culture not forgeten,orania is welcome everyone, who want to stay there n willing to love there culture and become Afrikaanar..do what they do...I love orania..keep up us..you r so amazing 👏 ❤
...like Soweto, they love their culture and we all need to respect that - providing that culture does not impose itself on another and exists within the confines of moral law.
You seems to love people who don’t love you or any other black person do you hear their logo remember you black skin tone cannot and isn’t welcome to live in Orania so go speak for your black people and pray God that things will be better for us check out the part that says only white to hell with them
Racial tension in our country is terrible. I find it fascinating how people want to be part of South Africa but not actually part of South Africa? Why is eNCA even making this news? A town of 1600 people shouldn’t be getting this much air time. Who cares what they do? Why not focus on issues that are affecting the growth of our nation ?
I think you should take a hard look at yourself. You went even slow such a successful little town to be on the news. I truly feel sorry for you that you are seeing things this way. There is no need for this hatred.
Frank deluca this is such vague and stupid comment. Tried reading it three times and it still doesn’t make sense. Maybe you should focus on advancing your grammar before flexing your fingers on your keypad
I live in Germany and support Orania! Read the people in Orania at rest and do not even stand against an Orania nation state. The people in Orania have to earn it Independently and to be with them! Learn from the story and show love, then love again.
phumzile ndlovu me too, me and my husband once spoke about this, we want to buy a house there and live peacefully! The place is peace of mind by looking at from far! But I know we cannot be accepted since we are Black!
Only that you wouldn't because there is a vetting process to get land stock and your desire to forget history will hurt you so bad. This community is an apartheid set up. If they are unhappy, they can go to EU. This is Africa. No African community in France which has a Humongous African population from slavery.
I admire their movement, but I personaly believe that the Idea came about from the basis of apartheid. The Idea about preserving the culture came after, when the world questioned the movement.
Leave the people alone they dont barrow everyone !!! Why always want to DESTROY what the Afrikaner have build up for themselfs. The country is big !!! Everyone can stay there .
French-Canadiens want Quebec to separate from Canada and become its own state, Confederates in the USA want to separate from the rest of the United States, Afrikaners want their own homeland in South Africa, and England wants to separate from the European Union. What is the common thread here?
@birdman33369 But nobody is calling for a Monolith. I personally think its the need for white societies to see themselves as separate from nature. And I mean this in no offence
@@pvtcit9711 You don't need to want to marry someone to get along with the person on a platonic and / or social level. The trouble in South Africa: the "Afrikaners" (or rather the initial Cape Dutch settIers and the British who came later) had this weird idea, that they can just claim land on the other side of the globe and not have to consider the consequences they cause for the locals. The British eventually realised that this Colonialism thing just doesn't go along very well with democratic values, since it forces the colonial power to use repression to subjugate the rightful owners of the land. The "Afrikaners" on the hand, driven by their particular cultural values, thought that they were smarter than the British, the French, the Spanish and the Portugese, who all started shutting down their colonial program eventually. The "Afrikaners" (= the National Party as their main political outlet) thought that if they introduced the delusional social-engineering approach commonly known as "apartheid", they could maintain their minority dominance and their continued presence on most of the fertile land of the territory, while not having to deal with the rights and aspirations of the actual South African population. Looking back, the National Party was basically a mad cult of weird social engineering proponents, who motivated by bigot delusions and inspired by European Fascism (it's German brand in particulary), thought that by introducing their apartheid policies, they could forever exclude the majority of the population from participating in their monocultural system of governance, which is of course absurd. No country can be run by an alien minority which attempts to almost completely sideline the majority of the land's population, only to benefit their small minority. It's just not the way that prosperous, stable, peaceful and enlightened societies work. Mind you: I'm not saying that "multicultural" societies don't have issues: in fact they have. In the case of South Africa it's the "Afrikaners" who are actually foreign to the land, hence the autochthonous South Africans can rightfully demand the foreign minority to integrate into the majority society, just as we expect Muslim foreigners (for example) in Europe, to respect the Christian tradition and secular values. The Orania-type of Afrikaners on the other hand seems to think that the majority has to adapt to their values, which is of course another instance of their delusional and warped mindset.
i admire the stance of this community which is showing that whenever people are united, they can achieve whatever they want. Let Orania be a country on its own and be cast out of this corrupt world of ours which is full of envy, jealousy and hypocrisy
Knowledge is power, there is stregnth in unity. White is supreme. The Boers will prove the ANC and the black majority wrong. Take a try and see in the next 10 years with the rapidly delapidating economy and infastructure.
Dludla baba u heard that Nigerians also want to build their own country in SA as well as Ethiopians after all this nonsense Let's stop admire things that are not need to b admired
As much as i dont like their exclution world as we know it. But I think these 2 boere boys explained/justified very well. I mos def dont want to live in orania as a black person. I never met anyone who would. Except uncle Ruckus, he would love it there. Anyways, Leave them alone!!
Let them be, they ask nothing from any of you who are so damned critical. Rather mind your own lives and business. They at least do not have riots and looting, stealing and causing havoc!
The Orania should accept black highly educated people and this would be the right way to create healthy cociety because if the poor people will come that will create APARTHEID by the force of economy.
Very informative and I for myself wouldn't mind to take a tour and learn about the Culture... their message is well understood... everyone wants a place called home... like Zulus going to Kzn where they find their roots and aswell as other tribe's our Afrikaner Family needed such a place although before the grounds were a bit different but ey we developing to know what Orania really is.... and I tell you since I got to be smart all I knew from other people of my kind they said it's a No Go Zone so it was always make me to have so much questions... I'm thankful I came across this as one of the young Black People we are a new generation and just like other countries colour of our skin is only a pigment not a dividing structure.
You will be amazed at how different Orania is compared to what the media tells you. I've been several times and have often seen people of colour come in and out of the town, buying things, saying hello and just being met with friendly people.
@@Swft675 We all foreign to this land if you look hard going back so although we came first and they followed, just like us who were born here they were also born here they can't call another place home when they have never been out there...
Yeh, I've seen this same dude interviewing these two before, asking the same questions. There are black villages that nurture specific ethnic cultures. Let them be too.
@Brick Topp Brick, That's a fair response. I see your point. I agree in accepting all people and peoples. I also agree in sharing national resources. I believe that if one group grabs the natural resources they can certainly fair better than another group because they create an un-level playing field. In America we have much inequality too, like South Africa; there are many similarities. Do you people feel that the new government since 1994 has rectified some of this problem? Ladd
as far as i can remember Orania was created from literally nothing and in the middle of nowhere. they probably have irrigation etc but still dont think many people would want to life there.
i like how the blacks always have to go on red alert as soon as a white group ,organisation or community is formed..leave these people alone ..and stop harrasing them..dont see them constantly harrasing black communities ...
White-only is very very generalizing. I am white but in no way afrikaaner. I would love the safety of Orania but I'm not sure I would fit their specific culture. I have visited the Netherlands but when I get back home I am glad to be within my own culture again. All this media indoctrinatin about hate between the races is a method of turning cultures against each other. Isn't it funny how those who control the media and the weapons industry are either the same people or people who can agree on so much for the sake of their idea of our future. Let's not fall for this shit. We the common people may not agree on how live together but we can agree that we all want peace for our families. Thank you Orania for leading the way for other minorities and for not leaching on anybody in the process.
@@nkosinathimpembe3597 as was clearly stated.... That budget.... that money always disappears thanks to the corruption endemic to SA government. Orania would probably actually put it to good use. However its a moot point as Orania isnt asking for, nor taking anything. They are self sufficient and have made that town out of barren land. They are not asking government for any hand outs. If any thing the rest of SA could learn something from them.
Perhaps time for enca to recognize people's human right to associate with who they want? Orania doesnt deem itself entitled to free anything, it builds what it needs by itself.
One is either born an Afrikaner or not an Afrikaner. Just like one is either born a Zulu or not a Zulu. One cannot become an Afrikaner. Impossible. In addition, the right of Afrikaners to assimilate in Orania is protected by both national and international law. Beyond that, even if the laws change, Afrikaners have an inalienable God given right to exist and not to disappear or allow themselves to be destroyed. The people of Orania are peaceful. They are a threat to no one. The people of Orania are hard-working . The people of Orania perform their own labour as they don't wish to be enslaved or enslave people of other cultures. The people of Orania have their own institutions. The people of Orania have their own land. The people of Orania are Afrikaners. Talking about race. Yes, Afrikaners are White, just like Zulus are Black. So what? It leaves room for true diversity and the celebration of it. There is no need to become racists and destroy true diversity and whole peoples in the process. It is funny how 99.99% of those who cry racism are the true racists as they wish to destroy the races that God created, both Black and White.
I've been called many names. Just leave these people to live their lives. I don't understand what is wrong with black people. I am also black. White people respect and don't undermine white people.
This interviewer is good... and for those who stupidly think Orania is like the rest of other villages with only black people. Those black villages accept everyone and you don`t have to be black or practice African cultures to be part of them 7:02
The push to discredit Orania is purely out of jealousy. Because the current SA government has failed to maintain a fully functioning country given to them. They now see fit to vilify the afrikaner who under great hardship and opposition has out of almost nothing created a booming town when all other towns in SA have failed under the anc. Instead of taking lessons from the afrikaner they taint their achievements. I'm not afrikaner but it's very admiral mense. Keep it up.
Afrikaneer respects and want to preserve their culture!! I don't see anything bad in that!! Let them be!!if they don't want outsider it's OK let them be!!!
I think every tribe in a Africa has a home area. I think we should accept Afrikaans as a local tribe with all right and privileges. Then from there we in unity of diversity build Africa. The zulu had Kwa zulu why not Afrikaans Kwa Afrikaan?
The Zulu were a kingdom in THEIR HOMELAND. Your desire to forget history will hurt you so bad. This community is an apartheid set up. If they are unhappy, they can go to EU. This is Africa. No African community in France or UK which have a Humongous African population from slavery.
An intense, but not tense, interview. When Joost said:" You will know when you're an Afrikaner", I felt my heart beat faster and I knew, This is my people. One day...hopefully soon, I will do my part there..
Which country in the world would allow that? Who exactly are those people? Can the South African law enforcement identify them, they live in South Africa after all. The only official country within South Africa is Swaziland 🇸🇿.
Well we have the zulu culture with a zulu king in kwazulu-natal.. Goodwill Zwelithini kaBhekuzulu... we have a Ndebele culture , Swazi culture and so forth... so why not a afrikaaner culture. the thing is people are still stuck at rasism...And this is so openly visible with the questions this reporter is asking.. he cant wait for the white man to say somting wrong... when Black folks see white people they say aaaaahhhha rasist!!!!! but in fact there is rasism in those who are blaming and pionting fingers. And dont tell me B.E.E is not rasism. because it is.... and the goverment owns most of the land.... so then give it to the people,but the wont... rater take what you did not work for..But at the end of the day .. its about to try and piss off the afrikaaner and steal for what they have worked for. they want what the afrikaaner build from the gound up. Why want to take another persons farm??? let the goverment give the people the land so that they can farm...ther is so must money.. imagine you can have 1 monthes tax money.. what can you do for the country.. but unfortunately is gets chowed up but the goverment.. when the afrikaaner was ruling this country the the rand was stronger then the dollar on 15 March 1982... where is it now?? most people is sitting without work... afrikaaners hate rasism... thats why they wanted mandela the be released from prison... afrikaaners liks peace and harmony
They have a self-sufficient peaceful, and prosperous town. The rest of black S. Africa can't stand it. It's easy to see the racism and envy in the interviewer who's working to find fault.
It’s an Afrikaner cultural territory for Boers. The Anglo can’t live there either. All groups should emulate them and create their own respective territories.
@@andrewdutoit9571 the word boer is usually used in a derogatory way to describe Afrikaners. Not all Afrikaners are farmers and that is my problem. It's like saying all coloured people are gangsters.
@@shanaazabrahams1319 To be honest most White South Africans are Boere. During the Boer War not all combatents were farmers either. During the Bush War the SADF and the SAPS were known as the Boere, that being both English and Afrikaners and in my opinion that same pioneering blood is in the veins of the modern day Whites. It is not allowed to show itself for reasons known which is a pity as I feel there is no greater Patriot's in this Country than the Whites.
There is more than enough places that Blacks can live and do there thing. Some people prefer to live in a clean, safe area, and they have full right to do so.
The problem I have with Orania is that it is is open to all Afrikaners... as long as you come from an affluent background. I tried to settle there about a decade ago and lasted exactly 3 days because the snobs who lived there didn't want me there... most of them are totally heartless...
So sad when he says, hopefully we will go to the museum later on... Where else in SA can you go and freely visit a museum that was not plundered or a area where monuments, good or bad, are still being kept. Hypocritical behavior... especially when we consider that most of those monuments where sponsored, or salvaged to be erected on this hill. Did you consider that no one might have yet donated a FW de Clerk statue?
You are spot on Dianne. Bophuthatswana was dismantled in South Africa but we have Orania. Mr, Mangope adored his culture too and ways of doing things just like Orania.✌️🇿🇦
To the Orania people and eNCA . I have immigrated to Australia because of a job offer I received and soon will become a citizen of Australia and by comming to live here they interview you to see that you accept and appreciate the culture and laws of the country and they take it serious . Every state has a completely different culture and dialex but is yet all together the Commonwealth of Australia absolutely nothing wrong with that. It seems like the presenter was trying to force them to say that they are racists . I can also tell you that it hasn't been easy to adopt a different culture so please respect any culture to continue being recognized it does not mean that they can't work together.
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Let the people in Orania live in peace. Its not that deep. Its like a Afrikaans village, just like there are Zulu and Xhosa villages.
You people love segregation, why not move to a country that you won’t need to segregate? Eg Finland 🇫🇮 Netherlands 🇳🇱 etc
Go to Netherlands and do that. Their culture is not of African origin.
I'm a Black by the way😊
I choose not to be bitter.
@@tasneembashir4880 nope.
A very important point. Xoli woke up in the only city around South Africa that is managed well, crime and litter free and most importantly a town that works.
Not sure how we missed this. Because this community has it's own system and values that keeps it running smoothly and i'm sure whatever issues they face are dealt with in a way consistent with their laws/rules.
@@MegaNdela they alos dont elect corrupt communist criminals to lead them. (Note i say lead not "rule" like the ANC likes to say... people think the anc are kings... or dictators. They dont understand what a democracy actually is)
@@gstar3569 Methinks it's been revealed, proven and there's general widespread consensus on what the ANC is or has become. I don't dismiss your entry but am not sure it merits mentioning a movement so repugnant and deplorable - to drive your point home. I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but I have often wondered/doubted if the ballot is the way out of the mess we're in, or whether civil disobedience may be the remedy. Back to the Orania thing: There are most definitely a few important lessons to be taken here - in terms of accountability and governance. Thanks
Woke or visited?
I thought that black people are not allowed there after 9 in the evening
I am not white...but i have to say the afrikaner people are just clinging to their heritage...nothing wrong with that
You are not brown either
Excellent
@@eliasnestor9482 I'm open minded and awakened 😉
In a few more years time, Orania will be turned into beautiful cultivated farms,decent schools ,hospitals administrative buildings etc.
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It is already a prosperous place, with schools, a hospital, shops of all kinds, play parks, a beautiful garden nursery,lots of places to eat....etc...
I know what I am speaking about...I have been there for a holiday!
Every one is friendly and courtious ...like I will say in Afrikaans" Ordentlike,gasvrye, beskaafde,vriendelike mense!!"
Dit was lekker om by julle te kuier!
Van Houtbaai by die see!🌹❤👍👍🎼🎶🎵🎹
If that was a black town in a white Country they would’ve burned it down. White
hate black prosperity . The government needs to get rid of them. They will be starting a war soon trying to start another apartheid tide.
After that they will ask for independence mark my words
@@liwilelilungwe858Ofcourse it's inevitable because they are already self reliant. They are only waiting for their population to grow and strengthen the local economy. Orania is Lesotho in the making. In 40 years they'll be richer and stronger than the rest of South Africa.
I am black South Africa and i fully support this community. whatever they are doing is what defines South Africa (Diversity - from different colours of our flag).
Shawn Mahanuke very good point!
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Because you're s***
They don't want you around them and lie all they want.
Amen my brother... SELF DETERMINATION! Its the future !
I wish we could do this the every town in SA, irrespective of colour or creed. We would have a fantastic country.
So this is how they interview now looking at their cellphones while talking...Xoly..sorry boet but very unprofessional
Recording is unprofessional?
How he is going to read comments without a phone stupid
@MG I guess you don’t know really much about live TV interview and I’m not surprise if you were born during our dark past. Anyway he was checking his questions and we don’t use papers anymore. You have to keep conversation flowing dumb ass
@@tjradebe5204 i full understand but the time spent looking down at his phone is far too long and that makes it look unprofessional. Its also very clear that I was born before you...as that can be seen by the lack of your respect. Yoyr fikthy manners and name calling shows that you were birn into a generation that knows no respect and cannot debate a matter without having the manners of pigs.
MG nn he is very unproffesional
I'm Black South African and to be honest I really like how these men protects their culture
In my culture we do have Basotho Cultural Village
They simply non-European
That's beautiful. I enjoy learning about other cultures. I am white and raised in an Afrikaans household, but I married an English man. I see my culture as English. We are both white and I don't think we would be able to live in Orania as we do not identify with the culture as they do. We love the wider South African culture like braai, socializing and my husband loves watching soccer. So we celebrate our own culture, but also the shared culture between all of us.
Jammer om van jou kak te hoor
@@donnybrasco1601 that's definatly not on me but if you're not from South Africa but I'll say it's our national problem that has to be dealt with thoroughly
All races and cultures deserves to be honoured and respected beastly regardless of what happened in the passed
@@the_muser7105 11 official languages therefore 11 Cultures 😁👌🏽🇿🇦
@@Roberto97810 ek is n boer. Hier gebore
I'm not white, but I'm proud of them for what they have created, I wish I could live there.
It does feel good to live amongst your own culture.
Well done Orania, I hope and Pray that jealousy of other races and culture don't try to damage you.
Earl M William
- There's a lot of context you need to include in your thought process regarding Orania. Consider the history of South Africa and its inhuman Apartheid laws. For Example, Germany can never celebrate Hitler, period. Orania should not exists in South Africa, its highly insensitive to the history and land disposition blacks suffered.
@Kuben Vengetas - U raise very good points, I agree with most by the way. Black South Africans are not driven by revenge contrary to common White beliefs. Black South Africans need reparation. Its a false democracy if your previous oppressor doesn't acknowledge the wrong doings and most importantly 'NOT offer reparation. In 1994 Whites did not loose the ill profited land and wealth. I don't see a'lot of White South Africans today willing to relinquish the privileged position given to them by former Apartheid laws. Blacks South African, must forgive and forget. We can forgive, but never forget. An all white state like Orania in South Africa should never promoted.
😂😂😂 you sound White AF dude
Kuben Vengetas absolute delusion.
why are you denying that you are white are you ashamed
y bother people who don't bother you at all, Ai leave this community alone man,
Well said
Salutations, Dube. I wish more people would think like you.
cause they are carrying on the same mindset that started Apartheid... segregation! we cant have a state within a state
The land was stolen and sold told them.
@@Siya4k Wait, the guy just said the laws disenfrenchize them in terms of jobs and education and you yet blame them for moving away from the majority who disenfrenchize them and building their own stuff? First you force themselves away then bitch they went away wtf?
No person burned your buss, you felt safe. And you even parked your bus their. Nothing like KZN.
I personally have no problem with this community...
Sduduzo Ka-Mbili me too realy leave them alone
Yeah, I don't really have my own specific culture so dont fully understand cultures, but I guess if what they say is legitimately true and based on culture not race, I don't see any issue.
Then you are probably a pretty decent person. Educate yourself, we are LIED to CONSTANTLY and we keep thinking something sounds true but if you REALLY examine it you will see that if one thing is true, then another thing, can by extension NOT be..... but these conflicting "truths" are BOTH seen and FELT to be true (This doesn't make it so) and when this happens, YOU may not be aware of it but YOUR back brain, your subconscious IS aware and it causes PROBLEMS with your thinking/rationalizing. It affects your understanding of reality, a serious matter. It is done to you on PURPOSE. When you CHOOSE to accept a lie and live under it in silence, it SHAMES you and it HURTS you. That's why it's done to you, that and for the POWER it gives them over you. History in South Africa is well documented and IGNORED in favor of these LIES now told in it's place. The evil agenda is EVERYTHING
Wait 50yrs then we’ll have another Israel-Palestine here. No white homeland in Africa.
@@sbusisomolose8139 yes I agree that is what is going to happen!!!!!!!!!!!
There is alot of tribal communities over the whole South Africa, each with their own believes and unique cultures. Orania is nothing unique.
True. It is as if people assume all white people have the same culture. That's nonsense. Skin colour do not dictate culture, socialization does.
Seems unique to me
@@the_muser7105 no but us afrikaners arent just whites, we have a unifying culture and history, even language. I wished the anchor at the beginning said Afrikaner town, as there arent english speakers either
So true! Diversity/Inclusion is not the enemy of self-determination
Return to Denmark
Black people have lived in Europe for centuries and can never be allowed to have their own community where they have schools teaching in an African language. This is crazy
iam coming from black only location....why are we also not famours .....
We need some to just try it...
>Talent is the willingness to try plus time
Growing a few carrots or beans (R40 seeds can make like 10kg of vegetables, at least) is easy
But you gotta get your hands dirty for that
And maybe read up if your plant shows some strange signs, which is hard if you're not so good with english
You have to be the change you want to see, do you want to farm? :)
Because you are not WHITE enough.... eNCA would rather try and make race news than go and put presure on government because of location poverty....
Because we have not made our township attractive.
The different is that your area don't block other race and tribes, if white wanna live in your area, you should allow them
You are very famous for the wrong reasons such as xenophobia, rape, murder, robberies day and night. For all doctors specialising in Trauma the best place to pla e and train is South Africa cause violence is rife
Unfortunately people can't live peaceful without mentioning any sort of race leave them alone they are not criminals we should learn from them
I give you 40yrs then your words become ash in your mouth.
What about the land they sold from us
Do u know that they have Young Soldiers that are being trained in Orania Specifically to kill Blacks. They have a camp that is training young boys to hate blacks.
Just imagine they say whites only they are flippin racist. They still use the slogan of Evil of Apartheid. KKKKKL EFF IS COMING FOR U GUYS
@@cheflondon4981 Maybe they are being trained to kill EFF Blacks. It would be wise to learn that.
@@peacemathebula3597 exactly!
Why do you want a Zulu homeland! Venda? Sotho? Hope they will be interviewed as well
learn South African history then you will know
Potego Molobela sorry I am from Antartica
They won’t be because their only reason to have any identity is to blame Boers for their troubles.
Zulu homelands, Xhosa homelands etc were created by APARTHEID
@@jjbv2147 stop race baiting your victim mentality is 🤢🤦🏼♂️
I'm not gonna lie ,living in Orania doesn't sound bad I'm black by the way.. I really wouldn't lie I'd love to just study them
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For what?
@@nancybreaux9684 curiosity thou .. how they live , how do they make it work . How they function the works ..
@Tony Hakai, They bealive in Hendrick Vervoed ideology, a man very prominent in South African history. What more to study.
If you black, you might need camera's to go there like Xoli. These leaders might portray an inclusive ideology, but the problem their followers might see you as an unwanted human being because of the colour of your skin. Which is what their admired leader, Hendrick Vervoed bealived.
Everyone has the right to live and practice their own culture however they see fit as long as it is within the confines of the law. If you don't like it don't live there.
exactly live and let live
We will stay there by force no one will stop us ,Africa is for Africans
@@selfemancipation7967 My God - you had to edit that piece.
Y'all are hiding behind the "culture card" justifying racism that's all
@@vuyogqola exactly
leave them alone. They are very successful they are hard workers. Good example for other communities to uplift themselves
There shouldn't be any white only exclusive town in an African land they will develop muscle enough to control the whole south africa again and start claiming more. Give it 50 to 100 years and it will be like Israeli-Palestinian issue. If you spoil one of your son by giving him everything he wants and leave him alone he will rebel and think he is better and want to enslave the others.They should assimilate and live with every one else. if they claim they have a good culture of governance they should also share it and teach it to fellow south Africans. if they actually believe they are south Africans, These people will claim to be their own independent country in few years and there is no stopping them. I say leave them alone but they should not be allowed to self governance and own the land or what ever, the land should always belong to the south african government but they can live there pay taxes to the government and guided by the constitutiona nd the school curriculum.
@@mekit.mariam3198 conspiracy
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@@mekit.mariam3198 well said . Cant agree more with you.Thats exactly my thoughts.
Shame poor old FW DE Klerk belongs nowhere, he is not welcome in Orania or in the new SA 😂
lmao!!!
Why not ??
Because he is a traitor
Hahaha
David Herman and he is far better than verwoerd. I personally think he played a pivotal role in uniting the nation and bringing an end to apartheid.
"whites-only town" is incorrect label. It is Afrikaner-only town. I'm European and I can't live in Orania. I don't speak Afrikaans and I'm not an Afrikaner.
It's truly crazy.
@Brick Topp you are one of the few people that make sense on this issue, how can you have a segregated white community in the middle of Africa that was established by the descendants of colonizers.
Top notch professionalism portrayed by the interviewer and the respondents. Am impressed ...
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With the failed state like South Africa, can you blame Afrikaners for wanting self-determination. Leave them alone, it is their universal right to create a destiny they want for themselves. I really respect them for their will-power to start things amid insurmountable challenges. Perhaps minority groups should go for a referundum for such.
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Errol Motau. They were the ones who caused the failure. Oranjestad ( lager) won't be SUCCESSFUL. In all the years that they've been going they only have a couple of thousand members. It's because they are hard core apartheid thinkers who have always suffered from zenphobia and alethophobia. ...and their crimes internally in their lager are rising.....G'day from Australia 🇦🇺
Orania was fathomed quite a while before democracy
He's race baiting
well done Orania - God bless you, may you carve a good future for the afrikaaner, based on lessons from the past.
Tyrone Askew by lessons of the past you mean apartheid right?
They were killed hundreds thousand of native s africa people i think they learnt from the past lesson.
You mean their evil past?
All of us South Africans, black or white we can learn or take something from Orania, they have a community that works, adhere to the rules set, can't we all aspire to be like them, we can all co-exist in a peaceful country where there is no crime, fair, equal chance to all, working systems and adhering to rules, but with crime, corruption, and no dignity in labour, lots of Orania towns and expensive estates will keep on thriving
Exactly!!. But look at some of our black people replies dude, they all just jumping to shout "racism " "racism" . All of us black people have our own homelands, Zulu, Xhosa, Venda..etc. we can learn so much on how to develop ourselves than thinking development is in cities & town & sending our kids to town schools & everything, we are so dependent & Orania shows how U can be independent as a homeland/village.
they are group of white racist people thats what they are
@@kamvaallan2653 you're allowed to go to Venda but not Orania, I think that's what blacks are complaining about.
@@cfctoyko9649 Yes I totally agree with you, you right 100%. Everyone can live anywhere in South Africa but Orania is exclusive to Afrikaaners culture Only. Reason they are able to do that is bcz Orania is built on private land & doing everything with the law under the constitution. So maybe we should question our constitution bcz they are not braking any law.
You think that apartheid is something to be emulated? They have only retreated to this after their apartheid ideologies have been overturned by the Ubuntu spirit of South Africans. They are pretenders.
Leave orania alone!!! They have the right to self-determination just like any other tribe in South africa
No white homeland in Africa as there is and never will there be a Black homeland in Europe.
@@sbusisomolose8139 can't do without us l o l
On Africa land?
Return to Denmark
@@ericcastle7296 can’t do what without you?
Criticizing the only crime-free community in South Africa - so brave.
@Gloria Garcia Do yourself a favour, and go look up crime statistics in Orania. It's a matter of public record.
@Gloria Garcia And that wasn't even the point of the comment. I am criticizing the journalistic etiquette on display here. Instead of producing a race-baiting hit piece, how about they interview victims of farm murders and report on the government's implicit support of farm murders? Now there is a news-worthy story.
Crime started in 1652 in South Africa when thugs from Europe came and stole our Land.
@@southafricannewschannel1988 So savage black-on-black violence and land-grabbing aren't considered crimes? The Bantu tribes were brutally intolerant, xenophobic and territorial long before Europeans arrived. Again, not the point of my comment anyway.
Ow and let me guess it's the only crime free community in South Africa because it's the only community that doesn't have black people?
Why wouldn’t black South Africans leave these white people the hell alone?
Let them live in peace!
This video, in its entirety is exceptionally interesting to me. Uplifting too. The decorum portrayed by interviewer and interviewees is a significant 'structure' in and of itself in that this proves to all not only in South Africa, but across the world, that in spite of history (good or bad), personal preferences, ideologies, dreams and aspirations, level headed human beings CAN respect one another's differences and "agree to disagree". Of further significance is the fact that this piece of land is otherwise arid and from an agricultural perspective, provides far greater challenges than what a genuinely fertile area might provide. The significance of course, is that the human being CAN with determination, co-operation and fervent endeavour under God's grace, prosper against seemingly impossible odds. Very much enjoyed: Thank you!
Give the residents the power they in the past and ul see a different face of the humble beast... the only reason they agree to disagree with the majority is because they don’t have another choice... this is racist nothing more nothing less
Very well put mfer godspeed!
@@nivzar740 Bist du verrück!Ist nue ein tolerant!
Julius Malema will put an end to this nonsense in due time. If you want a white only town, Africa is not it.
@@nivzar740 You know, this is innocent, but I just wanted to say, if the whites agreed to the electric-sharing plan of Mandela among other national securities, and in return they got to go back their thoughts of a meritocratic system, in at least as far as the political choice of certain regions of their "meritocratic system," even inviting more Europeans to settle, would it be worth it to live in a nation capable of building it's own nuclear power-plants again, than waiting for them to be completed and shipped from other nations in 2033 at the earliest?
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No one here has a problem with Chinese buying land here, creating Chinese communities, creating motherland China wealth, creating police stations, "friendly" exposure of their exclusive culture, building and creating their own statues and cultural heritage, selling their motherland goods only, creating "taxless" wealth.....
2) I haven't heard in any similar interviews anyone from this community complaining or protesting about service delivery, begging or pleading for a bail- or handout or freebie.
3) This community live / co-exist in harmony and peacefull neighbouring with everyone around.... no word about landtheft or expropriation .... only creating communal success and progress.
4) Similar interviews disclose functional and maintained infrastructure built for and by the community. I presume the community also paid for it and therefore cherish it for the future development of this community.....
5) It seems to me that this community achieves their goals with their own initiatives and foresight lead their day to day existence.
6) This community it seems, live sparsely and survive off this barren stretch of desertlike arid land and excell in their efforts to create opportunities.
7) It seems, the critics here envy and expropriate like the rest of the country. It seems that the community supports one another, rather than relying on their government to provide support systems. It seems as if this community is building a future for themselves from / out of nothing. To me therefore, it is a no brainer..... this ccommunity should be an example to each one of the rainbow nation to create similar self sufficient communities for the benefit of the country as a whole and therefore be left to write the textbook of how to be successful amongs animosity from critics
I can't see any wrong, besides that I can't live there to share their expertise to enrich my own understanding of cultural success.
I hope their successes will encourage communities to follow in their footsteps
Orania se mense het breins met hoe IK. Dis hoekom dit so goed gaan daar
You are completely right!
You said well that Chinese came and "bought" land. They are not the beneficiaries of imperial proceeds like these folks. It's not about racism, it's about whether you got to Africa legitimately. All the developments they have done in Africa cannot pay for the blood of a single person they killed.
Listening to this I don't see any problems
o stlaela. houtkop!!!!
Damn I wish I were u
Hey black people have pure black communities everywhere. Why can't white people have their own?
@@theflammiferofwesternesse6122.
You can live in any Black community if you want but Black people are not allowed to live in Orania
@@theflammiferofwesternesse6122 well that's you whites just like to think their special more special
I take my hat off to these people of.Orania . Seems such a well run community .
Not in africa
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@@Nhlanhla-k6d ? What do you mean?
Orania doing it for themselves, respect
Shew this mainstream outfit tried their best to no avail lol
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For argument sake: IT IS AN AFRIKANER COMMUNITY!
Reiaan Hobson Are you coloured people allowed there ???? as you come from them right ??
Just like all of us, they want a place call home. A place were the Afrikaner can display his/her heritage, believes and languages. Just like me, or any of us can go to our respective communities eat our traditional food, speak in away how we speak, play in way, what we know. Stop thinking with your skin and think with your brain. Leave the people alone, they don't do anyone harm.
@@bullmarketstalkshow6977 we africans it angers us. they belong in europe. africans have no special heritage land in europe. they anger africans intensely, it wont be peaceful there.
@@blackiqexercise2805 Speak for yourself, I'm South Africa, just like all us, you included. This beautiful land belong to all us and everybody must participate, not certain people.
@@bullmarketstalkshow6977 YOU CANT DO THE NAZI HAND THING BECAUSE IT IS AGAINST THE LAW BECAUSE IT REMINDS ITS VICTIMS OF THE MASS KILLINGS OF MANY JEWISH PEOPLE. IT IS THE SAME CASE HERE, THEY CANNOT CREATE A EUROPEANS ONLY AREA IN SOUTH AFRICA.
The true afrikaans culture does not exclude other people. The problem came when "their ways" was forced upon other people, and the Dutch people, are totally 100% different, but apart from that preserving their language and culture is good, i would also preserve my Ndebele culture aswell
Like BEE IS FORCED ON US
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Couldn't agree more... we should be allowed to have self determination, let Xhosa people be Xhosa, Zulus be Zulu, Afrikaaners be Afrikaans. This would be a far better way for us to exist together in this country, as cultural states or provinces, with the ability to freely move, but when you are in a Xhosa area , or Ndebele or Afrikaans, or English... you abide by those rules and practises!
How can you NOT congratulate and admire what they have done. Brilliant!
The Boer are the Bosses
@@akoamoseetave3091 I am voting EFF solely for Malema to put an end to this.
Speak the TRUTH and the TRUTH will set you FREE! Come guys it takes a big man to be honest.
Oranians r beautiful people n very hard working community, please leave them to live in peace
😂😂😂
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This interviewer was phenomenally professional in this, truly impressive
Arrogance is not professional
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I'm black but I'm with orania...they want their culture not forgeten,orania is welcome everyone, who want to stay there n willing to love there culture and become Afrikaanar..do what they do...I love orania..keep up us..you r so amazing 👏 ❤
...like Soweto, they love their culture and we all need to respect that - providing that culture does not impose itself on another and exists within the confines of moral law.
You seems to love people who don’t love you or any other black person do you hear their logo remember you black skin tone cannot and isn’t welcome to live in Orania so go speak for your black people and pray God that things will be better for us check out the part that says only white to hell with them
Racial tension in our country is terrible. I find it fascinating how people want to be part of South Africa but not actually part of South Africa?
Why is eNCA even making this news? A town of 1600 people shouldn’t be getting this much air time. Who cares what they do? Why not focus on issues that are affecting the growth of our nation ?
jip agree. or talk about the R15bil less taxes coz of people that immigrated in last yr. and where we will get it from to cover expenses.
I think you should take a hard look at yourself. You went even slow such a successful little town to be on the news. I truly feel sorry for you that you are seeing things this way. There is no need for this hatred.
Frank deluca this is such vague and stupid comment. Tried reading it three times and it still doesn’t make sense. Maybe you should focus on advancing your grammar before flexing your fingers on your keypad
@@lazola808 maybe you should stop being so full of hatred against the people who built society.
Because of BEE
The news reader adding her opinion about the place and people at the end is wrong and subjective to what news is meant to be. Which is neutral.
That's why it earned them the 200th thumbs down from me...
@@Spacekriek oh they are crying themselves to sleep till this day.
What did she actually say exactly?
@@Spacekrieklmao they don't really care to be fair
Black people are so tolerant.
Yeah, we tolerate sh#t
I live in Germany and support Orania!
Read the people in Orania at rest and do not even stand against an Orania nation state. The people in Orania have to earn it Independently and to be with them!
Learn from the story and show love, then love again.
No white homeland in Africa. We won’t allow the birth of another Israel-Palestine situation.
I support Orania
@@sbusisomolose8139
Listen here boy
Every race has right to protect and build their culture /language
@@thamagethato8000 Africa is not for white people
I'm confused, how is only allowing white people furthering racial diversity?
Leave Orania alone.
It's the place to be... Bless you 🙏
Its a pity I'm black but I would have loved to stay in Orania it seems so peaceful and crime free . I love it.
phumzile ndlovu me too, me and my husband once spoke about this, we want to buy a house there and live peacefully! The place is peace of mind by looking at from far! But I know we cannot be accepted since we are Black!
Tracey Henry What race are you?
Only that you wouldn't because there is a vetting process to get land stock and your desire to forget history will hurt you so bad. This community is an apartheid set up. If they are unhappy, they can go to EU. This is Africa. No African community in France which has a Humongous African population from slavery.
I admire their movement, but I personaly believe that the Idea came about from the basis of apartheid. The Idea about preserving the culture came after, when the world questioned the movement.
Leave the people alone they dont barrow everyone !!! Why always want to DESTROY what the Afrikaner have build up for themselfs. The country is big !!! Everyone can stay there .
😂😂😂😂 I’ve heard that before
Leave these people alone. I would do the same thing for my family. Just leave them alone.
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An example of being organised. Something that a race like mine should learn instead of being jealous.
French-Canadiens want Quebec to separate from Canada and become its own state, Confederates in the USA want to separate from the rest of the United States, Afrikaners want their own homeland in South Africa, and England wants to separate from the European Union. What is the common thread here?
It makes you think ??
@@chrisrichter6327 How do you think we can ensure long-lasting peace where both sides are supplied an equal amount of goods and services?
@birdman33369 But nobody is calling for a Monolith. I personally think its the need for white societies to see themselves as separate from nature. And I mean this in no offence
@@Kozmiknomadiko You don't "get supplied" goods and services. You afford them.
@@pvtcit9711 You don't need to want to marry someone to get along with the person on a platonic and / or social level. The trouble in South Africa: the "Afrikaners" (or rather the initial Cape Dutch settIers and the British who came later) had this weird idea, that they can just claim land on the other side of the globe and not have to consider the consequences they cause for the locals.
The British eventually realised that this Colonialism thing just doesn't go along very well with democratic values, since it forces the colonial power to use repression to subjugate the rightful owners of the land. The "Afrikaners" on the hand, driven by their particular cultural values, thought that they were smarter than the British, the French, the Spanish and the Portugese, who all started shutting down their colonial program eventually.
The "Afrikaners" (= the National Party as their main political outlet) thought that if they introduced the delusional social-engineering approach commonly known as "apartheid", they could maintain their minority dominance and their continued presence on most of the fertile land of the territory, while not having to deal with the rights and aspirations of the actual South African population.
Looking back, the National Party was basically a mad cult of weird social engineering proponents, who motivated by bigot delusions and inspired by European Fascism (it's German brand in particulary), thought that by introducing their apartheid policies, they could forever exclude the majority of the population from participating in their monocultural system of governance, which is of course absurd. No country can be run by an alien minority which attempts to almost completely sideline the majority of the land's population, only to benefit their small minority. It's just not the way that prosperous, stable, peaceful and enlightened societies work.
Mind you: I'm not saying that "multicultural" societies don't have issues: in fact they have. In the case of South Africa it's the "Afrikaners" who are actually foreign to the land, hence the autochthonous South Africans can rightfully demand the foreign minority to integrate into the majority society, just as we expect Muslim foreigners (for example) in Europe, to respect the Christian tradition and secular values. The Orania-type of Afrikaners on the other hand seems to think that the majority has to adapt to their values, which is of course another instance of their delusional and warped mindset.
I am English and I love Afrikaans people!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣and I can't stand them
@Brick Topp SA was kho’sian before the Dutch and Bantu’s moved in. The land doesn’t belong to you
i admire the stance of this community which is showing that whenever people are united, they can achieve whatever they want. Let Orania be a country on its own and be cast out of this corrupt world of ours which is full of envy, jealousy and hypocrisy
Knowledge is power, there is stregnth in unity. White is supreme. The Boers will prove the ANC and the black majority wrong. Take a try and see in the next 10 years with the rapidly delapidating economy and infastructure.
Go visit, you'll be very surprised just how amazing it really is.
I learnt a lot from the Boers, they are proud people and couragous
Salute you for seeing the truth , I hope it will inspire back people to come up with their own!
Dludla baba u heard that Nigerians also want to build their own country in SA as well as Ethiopians after all this nonsense
Let's stop admire things that are not need to b admired
As much as i dont like their exclution world as we know it. But I think these 2 boere boys explained/justified very well. I mos def dont want to live in orania as a black person. I never met anyone who would. Except uncle Ruckus, he would love it there. Anyways, Leave them alone!!
Hahahaha nice one! That was a funny boondocks reference.
It’s pretty understandable it’s their people and culture and they’re not harming anyone. Just like you said, “Leave them Alone”.
I agree 100%
Let them be, they ask nothing from any of you who are so damned critical. Rather mind your own lives and business. They at least do not have riots and looting, stealing and causing havoc!
Separation from any cultures its best way to go, Europeans must solve Afrikaana issues moving forward back to where it comes from as matter of records
The Orania should accept black highly educated people and this would be the right way to create healthy cociety because if the poor people will come that will create APARTHEID by the force of economy.
It's everybody's responsibility to preserve their culture and people of Orania are doing just that. Kudos to them
Leave them alone
Very informative and I for myself wouldn't mind to take a tour and learn about the Culture... their message is well understood... everyone wants a place called home... like Zulus going to Kzn where they find their roots and aswell as other tribe's our Afrikaner Family needed such a place although before the grounds were a bit different but ey we developing to know what Orania really is.... and I tell you since I got to be smart all I knew from other people of my kind they said it's a No Go Zone so it was always make me to have so much questions... I'm thankful I came across this as one of the young Black People we are a new generation and just like other countries colour of our skin is only a pigment not a dividing structure.
You will be amazed at how different Orania is compared to what the media tells you. I've been several times and have often seen people of colour come in and out of the town, buying things, saying hello and just being met with friendly people.
But is this their ancestral home? I think not.
But you wouldnt allow nigerians to do this. Or any other African but the white man, its fine
@@Swft675 We all foreign to this land if you look hard going back so although we came first and they followed, just like us who were born here they were also born here they can't call another place home when they have never been out there...
@@Swft675 one earth brother, a wet little rock flouting in space , you are just a byproduct of her rules of nature.
Yeh, I've seen this same dude interviewing these two before, asking the same questions. There are black villages that nurture specific ethnic cultures. Let them be too.
@Brick Topp do you think that whites should leave all of Africa?
@Brick Topp Brick, That's a fair response. I see your point. I agree in accepting all people and peoples. I also agree in sharing national resources. I believe that if one group grabs the natural resources they can certainly fair better than another group because they create an un-level playing field. In America we have much inequality too, like South Africa; there are many similarities.
Do you people feel that the new government since 1994 has rectified some of this problem?
Ladd
as far as i can remember Orania was created from literally nothing and in the middle of nowhere. they probably have irrigation etc but still dont think many people would want to life there.
Xoli Mngambi is the only guy I know who ask deep questions that shows u if u wrong
i like how the blacks always have to go on red alert as soon as a white group ,organisation or community is formed..leave these people alone ..and stop harrasing them..dont see them constantly harrasing black communities ...
White-only is very very generalizing. I am white but in no way afrikaaner. I would love the safety of Orania but I'm not sure I would fit their specific culture. I have visited the Netherlands but when I get back home I am glad to be within my own culture again. All this media indoctrinatin about hate between the races is a method of turning cultures against each other. Isn't it funny how those who control the media and the weapons industry are either the same people or people who can agree on so much for the sake of their idea of our future. Let's not fall for this shit. We the common people may not agree on how live together but we can agree that we all want peace for our families. Thank you Orania for leading the way for other minorities and for not leaching on anybody in the process.
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I am black but I support this community, they have not broken any law, i think they should be given the budget to develop Orania.
How about giving Alexandra, Finetown, orange farm, the people in KZN affected by the floods that budget instead??
@@nkosinathimpembe3597 they were given as Alexandra Rewal project, and also as Orange Farm renewal project, it all disappeared
The thing is, they aren't asking for a budget. They are self-sufficient
@@nkosinathimpembe3597 as was clearly stated.... That budget.... that money always disappears thanks to the corruption endemic to SA government. Orania would probably actually put it to good use. However its a moot point as Orania isnt asking for, nor taking anything. They are self sufficient and have made that town out of barren land. They are not asking government for any hand outs. If any thing the rest of SA could learn something from them.
Stop talking its not thier land remember the past time they have no right to own the land.
This place looks amazing i wish coloured people will follow in their footsteps and create our own community hope fully cape town
Coloured people...U racist prick!
@@truthrevealer460 you did not read properly
The entire Western Cape secession is happening (not just Cape town) but thats based on culture too (not skin colour).
Too bad we coming there next, orania gonna have to integrate just like China did Hong Kong
@@truthrevealer460 you shut up we are fucken coloured people in South Africa
Shame on E TV UN professional bios interviewer with trickster questions!!! He Interrupted most of the answers!! Very rude, no manners
Perhaps time for enca to recognize people's human right to associate with who they want? Orania doesnt deem itself entitled to free anything, it builds what it needs by itself.
@Brick Topp Orania was bought..It was unused land. We do not need your approval to excersize our humanrights ;-)
@Brick Topp And Id love to see the Europeans you are talking about...We are all Africans here. :-) Perhaps you need to drop the Xenophobic posts.
One is either born an Afrikaner or not an Afrikaner. Just like one is either born a Zulu or not a Zulu. One cannot become an Afrikaner. Impossible. In addition, the right of Afrikaners to assimilate in Orania is protected by both national and international law. Beyond that, even if the laws change, Afrikaners have an inalienable God given right to exist and not to disappear or allow themselves to be destroyed. The people of Orania are peaceful. They are a threat to no one. The people of Orania are hard-working . The people of Orania perform their own labour as they don't wish to be enslaved or enslave people of other cultures. The people of Orania have their own institutions. The people of Orania have their own land. The people of Orania are Afrikaners.
Talking about race. Yes, Afrikaners are White, just like Zulus are Black. So what? It leaves room for true diversity and the celebration of it. There is no need to become racists and destroy true diversity and whole peoples in the process. It is funny how 99.99% of those who cry racism are the true racists as they wish to destroy the races that God created, both Black and White.
"God created!"🙄
Lol u spent so much typing nonsense
Well said Paul Maritz.....Jisterday, is ek darm nou vir jou erg lus vir daai lekker koeksisters van Orania 😉
I've been called many names. Just leave these people to live their lives. I don't understand what is wrong with black people. I am also black. White people respect and don't undermine white people.
What a rude unprofessional way to conduct an interview. Read the questions off your cell phone
I am so happy to see this happening. God speed to them…we are not all the same and we have different ways.
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“This reporter is just so full of himself, that’s it’s just laughable...” (Enough said)
Great reporter. Says it as it is. G'day from Australia mate. COOOEE.
Nay, he is asking the right question.
No, he asked questions a lot of SAFFERS wanted to have asked, but he got answers that would have thrown many.
This interviewer is good... and for those who stupidly think Orania is like the rest of other villages with only black people. Those black villages accept everyone and you don`t have to be black or practice African cultures to be part of them 7:02
The push to discredit Orania is purely out of jealousy. Because the current SA government has failed to maintain a fully functioning country given to them. They now see fit to vilify the afrikaner who under great hardship and opposition has out of almost nothing created a booming town when all other towns in SA have failed under the anc.
Instead of taking lessons from the afrikaner they taint their achievements. I'm not afrikaner but it's very admiral mense. Keep it up.
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If you were to forbid freedom of association you would be against everything that freedom stands for. It should not even be a question.
leave them alone go and pest the guys from swaziland
Afrikaneer respects and want to preserve their culture!! I don't see anything bad in that!! Let them be!!if they don't want outsider it's OK let them be!!!
Leave Orania alone.....they bother no one!!!!!!°°°°
I think every tribe in a Africa has a home area. I think we should accept Afrikaans as a local tribe with all right and privileges. Then from there we in unity of diversity build Africa. The zulu had Kwa zulu why not Afrikaans Kwa Afrikaan?
The Zulu were a kingdom in THEIR HOMELAND. Your desire to forget history will hurt you so bad. This community is an apartheid set up. If they are unhappy, they can go to EU. This is Africa. No African community in France or UK which have a Humongous African population from slavery.
An intense, but not tense, interview. When Joost said:" You will know when you're an Afrikaner", I felt my heart beat faster and I knew, This is my people. One day...hopefully soon, I will do my part there..
What know why the say white only in the town by the say every color is are welcome there this is the racesr
Then go to Europe and build ur land there😅
which constitution ? thanks xoli for asking that question. we want it to be clear, leaving no gaps
Which country in the world would allow that?
Who exactly are those people? Can the South African law enforcement identify them, they live in South Africa after all. The only official country within South Africa is Swaziland 🇸🇿.
@@martmofo8353 Lesotho
Well we have the zulu culture with a zulu king in kwazulu-natal.. Goodwill Zwelithini kaBhekuzulu... we have a Ndebele culture , Swazi culture and so forth... so why not a afrikaaner culture.
the thing is people are still stuck at rasism...And this is so openly visible with the questions this reporter is asking.. he cant wait for the white man to say somting wrong... when Black folks see white people they say aaaaahhhha rasist!!!!! but in fact there is rasism in those who are blaming and pionting fingers. And dont tell me B.E.E is not rasism. because it is.... and the goverment owns most of the land.... so then give it to the people,but the wont... rater take what you did not work for..But at the end of the day .. its about to try and piss off the afrikaaner and steal for what they have worked for. they want what the afrikaaner build from the gound up. Why want to take another persons farm??? let the goverment give the people the land so that they can farm...ther is so must money.. imagine you can have 1 monthes tax money.. what can you do for the country.. but unfortunately is gets chowed up but the goverment.. when the afrikaaner was ruling this country the the rand was stronger then the dollar on 15 March 1982... where is it now?? most people is sitting without work... afrikaaners hate rasism... thats why they wanted mandela the be released from prison... afrikaaners liks peace and harmony
They have a self-sufficient peaceful, and prosperous town. The rest of black S. Africa can't stand it. It's easy to see the racism and envy in the interviewer who's working to find fault.
It’s an Afrikaner cultural territory for Boers. The Anglo can’t live there either. All groups should emulate them and create their own respective territories.
Do you know what word "boer" means
@@shanaazabrahams1319 Yes, Farmer and the problem is?
@@andrewdutoit9571 the word boer is usually used in a derogatory way to describe Afrikaners. Not all Afrikaners are farmers and that is my problem. It's like saying all coloured people are gangsters.
@@shanaazabrahams1319 To be honest most White South Africans are Boere. During the Boer War not all combatents were farmers either. During the Bush War the SADF and the SAPS were known as the Boere, that being both English and Afrikaners and in my opinion that same pioneering blood is in the veins of the modern day Whites. It is not allowed to show itself for reasons known which is a pity as I feel there is no greater Patriot's in this Country than the Whites.
@@shanaazabrahams1319 I don't find being called a Boer derogatory at all because that is what I am. I'm not ashamed of it.
Doing this right before the elections. Propaganda Proudly brought to you by the ANC.
ANC and ENCA news
I see Hendrik Verwoerd as the person who created massive infrastructure projects, the economy was booming under his tenure and people had jobs.
Black people were killed like flies on the 21 March 1960 when he was a Prime Minster and many more in his 6 years tenure.
@Tlhalefo Rakatana now 44.4% of the nation is unemployed.
There is more than enough places that Blacks can live and do there thing. Some people prefer to live in a clean, safe area, and they have full right to do so.
anc moto... go try to f-up everything that works.
Yeah yeah yeah
The problem I have with Orania is that it is is open to all Afrikaners... as long as you come from an affluent background. I tried to settle there about a decade ago and lasted exactly 3 days because the snobs who lived there didn't want me there... most of them are totally heartless...
I did wonder if we ordinary poorer South Afrikaners will afford to live there. Thanks now I know
You should go to your ancestors' home. They were criminals in Africa.
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"Maybe they dont want pple like you.? 😂😂🤣🤣
So sad when he says, hopefully we will go to the museum later on... Where else in SA can you go and freely visit a museum that was not plundered or a area where monuments, good or bad, are still being kept. Hypocritical behavior... especially when we consider that most of those monuments where sponsored, or salvaged to be erected on this hill. Did you consider that no one might have yet donated a FW de Clerk statue?
You are spot on Dianne. Bophuthatswana was dismantled in South Africa but we have Orania. Mr, Mangope adored his culture too and ways of doing things just like Orania.✌️🇿🇦
Orania is booming!!!
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Yes give me ORANIA any time. We need more communities like this!!! 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹
12:30 dude makes sense...a lot. I mean hadn’t I grew up in the Eastern Cape I wouldn’t know my Xhosa like I do now.
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To the Orania people and eNCA . I have immigrated to Australia because of a job offer I received and soon will become a citizen of Australia and by comming to live here they interview you to see that you accept and appreciate the culture and laws of the country and they take it serious . Every state has a completely different culture and dialex but is yet all together the Commonwealth of Australia absolutely nothing wrong with that. It seems like the presenter was trying to force them to say that they are racists . I can also tell you that it hasn't been easy to adopt a different culture so please respect any culture to continue being recognized it does not mean that they can't work together.
They clearly racist, answering questions in circles…
These men in the video is talking pure kak
This is so good.
They should all go to Australia
@@chai_r not even a 5 year old can fall for their lies
Afrikaners flee to Australia, knowing the situation is similar to what South Africa used to be.Another European occupied country
Wow! I like this idea of a community
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A clear antwoord to people of Suid Afrika🤝
I was with them until the FWD Clerk answer. I definitely respect what they are doing and I got some clarity.
More people should be proud of their inheritance.
Muslims in Europe not allowed to wear their hijabs.The universe is watching the injustices.