@porter9494you're just a bunch of wusses to me. A race so insecure that throughout history and present times it's always trying to prove to God that they are better than African people.
WP also created porn, atomic bombs, guns, slavery, ethnic cleansing, mass murders and Capitilist systems the oppresss even their own kind. I don't know about being respected while I agree with being feared yes. @porter9494
Go to all DA leaders interviews and Ramaphosa interviews and speeches before and after election. Then make a judgement on it. I can't explain for someone who is lazy to read, listen and do own research . Because will never get anything from SABC
@@Majozilukhozi you are the lazy one only started being vocal from 2019. We have been vocal and doing research since 2003. Go and read your school notes and prove me wrong
The next is the independence of the Western Cape with the discovered diamond, oil and the big trade port to the world being controlled by them, in the name of disguising as the good protectors in this area. That's how stupid we will be if we let them.
@DumaM-ir7rk ka fa ga rona re dirile tiro ka botlalo. We defeated Paul Kruger while Mzansi polishes his statue as some kind of wet hero. In fact it was my tribe ee mo kgemethilwng ene keuger yoo wa lona. Maybe you meant to say someone else is converting to khalate. Rona ga re opele thuntsha kana dubula leburu. Re a bolaile ra a lailela go tshamekela mo go rona. Ga rena nako ya dibodu kwano.
Stop your shit about let it be, you must be a white person to fool us that they will come crying, the other way around it's more crying for black people who are under economic apartheid.
That’s how it all started, like small, then next they eat more & more & demand for more & more recognition, & @ the end well see a very big Orania & a small & partial spots of South Africa & that will be the end of Africa, coz wars will be declared in the name of defending themselves. This is not right at all. We’ve witnessed how Israel came to being & its similar to this orania
Very soon this VFF is fast becoming irrelevant. If their strategists don't foresee this they Will soon get a rude awakening. The Afrikaners better play ball or they will be rendered irrelevant. Their trick of wanting to bring violence via some parties will not help. The ANC is becoming very powerful, the very same way they were powerful being supported by the EU/US front
@@lilianhaggland2031 under gnu... it's going... remember da and some europeans have been trying to break Cape Town away from south Africa....under gnu what's stopping them... I'm saying this because apparently cyril and his anc nec team sold the struggle in exchange for their freedom... what's next 🤔
Orania has been around for a long time. Its not that this happened over night after GNU. Really dissapointed with most blacks in South Africa - you simply do not want to get a long with whites
Some of these comments are utterly stupid. Verwoed's grand son said they bought this land in 1991, Ramaphosa was not even remotely close to parliament. The country was firmly in Apartheid's NP rule. Mandela was just released months earlier. It is just as ridiculous as this dude's assertions. So that yard is special because 400 people voted. What about Dainfern estate, or Blue Hills and over 3000 estates in SA. Should they also seek constitutional recognition cause they are important. Delusions of grandeur, in creating your own flag in a democratic country, and establishing a currency for an estate. Does he even know why other Afrikaaner brotherin of his aren't moving to his father yard in support, or are the claustrophobic of small spaces, or opt not to dig backwards like chicken. If his people are blocked from opportunities, it is not the government, but his cousins who still over 90% of our economy, and made sure that whoever govern will have no buying power. Take a hat off to this lady for asking the right questions, now its even clearer that orania sings the entire anthem, nx!
@porter9494 He wouldn’t be saying go back to Europe if your presence was needed here in our country, you see in Europe you’d stay nicely without a chance of seeing a BP even by mistake, maybe ya’ll should consider doing that and you’ll never be recognised as Africans no matter after how many generations. You’ll always be European. So why don’t you go there and show case your self proclamation to your fellow Europeans, we don’t need that here.
@@pietercelie are there indian afrikaaners??? or black afrikaaners??? stop playing....there was a WHITES ONLY Signage outside the gates of Orania....so you cant change tune now...afrikaaners are white....
This is going to be a major headache for S.A in future, from what this man is saying, one can deduce that their long term strategy is to eventually create an independent state within S.A. If politicians don't take drastic measures, and make the concept of Orania illegal, it will be an independent state in about 50 years.
@@SharonKeune-zo1zi Because S.A belongs to all South Africans, and no part of it's territorial should be annexed and given to a small group to form their own country within S.A
@@SharonKeune-zo1zi They're a community with ambitions of becoming their own country, that's why they have their own schools, universities, bank and currency...
Its as special as calling KZN - kwa ZULU natal. What makes it so special to be linked to Zulus? To be fair it should be called Natal and that's it. The first settlers in that region were white Portuguese people that named that region Natal because they arrived on the 25th December. (Christmas in Portuguese). When this happenened a large majority of Zulu ancestor s were somewhere in Angola or further up north of Africa
He speaks a lot of rubish but the one that stands out is that he co-founded a piece of land in South Africa called Orania, Ramaphosa why do you allow land theft to happen again? Ramaphosa get your Act together......
For real. He needs to be decisive because his image and stature as an executive state president and CIC of the SANDF has depreciated almost to nothing. He has all the power vested in him but fails to use it. He needs to be a benevolent dictator.
You talk nonsense!!! Its not land theft if you buy it - the land in South Africa never belonged, does not belong and will never belong to any exclusive race.
You know mos they want their own flag and borders, their own military, own currency. Something like Is real, what happens when it gets strong and takes more land, when countries like us feed the monster?
Hence we anti GBV, your absolutely lost cos Orania is found based on race, secondly there was a case of a white man there found to have sexually abused young boys, Orania shall never be recognised by many progressive South Africans considering our dark history of apartheid.🇿🇦
@@yayaacombi6224 semantics ... as opposed to rest of South Africa where nothing works. Its usually stolen or broken by people that add very little value to society yet d under the impression the world owes them much.
Orania is racist because the basis of entrance is race and not culture as it is falsely claimed here …the false assumption here is that culture amounts to race , I can be Xhosa but raised in the Zulu culture , same way a black person can be raised in the Afrikaner culture. So this “we are preserving our culture by not allowing blacks to live here “ is an obvious fallacy. Zulus don’t need to make it hard for Xhosas to live in KzN as a means of preserving the Zulu culture, that would be ridiculous. I can’t figure out if this is racism or just lack of imagination, but whatever it is , it’s stupid.
But you hate whites, are you not happy they live quietly, mind there own business , don't bother anyone and build and develop there community with there own fund's.
The South African Defense Department must establish in Orania a permanent military training base and barracks , provide residential facilities for South African Citizens that would be stationed there for military service slong with their family members The territory is well suited for that purpose just like any other part of South Africa .
Really, why dont all people just leave Orania and its people. It is just causing a stir. I sometimes wonder why God has so much patience with us. It is unreal the hate. Who in his real mind will stay and live in Karoo
Zimdollar and Zig. Recently, Mr Mnangagwa visited Russia. Among the questions that President Putin asked Mr Mnangagwa was, "Mr Mnangagwa, why are your hyenas scattered all over other people's countries?" Mr Mnangagwa replied and said, "There in Zimbabwe, we keep hyenas in public parks. " Zimbabweans must comment on matters that affect their own country and leave South African affairs with South Africans. We don't doubt ourselves in South Africa. That's the reason we don't poke our noses in any country's affairs.
Orania is just like a village, SA gov is servicing Orania and Orania respect the law. Police in Orania are SAPS and they do everything according to the law
@@The12archangels refrain from calling us "bantus" we don't even call ourselves that. And it is Cyril's fault that we have whites-only enclaves post Apartheid
I support this. Orania is an excellent showcase of the prosperity a society can achieve if everyone rolls up their sleeves and work not only for the benefit of the individual but to advance their society as a whole.
Why are they afraid to go to the west and ask for the land and build orania. It's obvious these people were banned in all the western countries, they did something wrong surely they were from prison.
Built by boers on stole land....by the way boers didnt come to africa with millions...that money you talking about was made in SA, to the exclusion of black people....
That place was created by the former president of this country and was supported by him and his gov throughout his life. A government handout is still a government handout whether it's from ANC or NP. Stop lying to people.
to all people with their racial comments, please explain the difference between a tribal community and cultural community then ask your self why the MK of Zuma did so well, maybe just maybe what Carel said that SA should be a community of communities will get you past your racial short shortsightedness.
Karel, I respect your people and your idea. But comparing ghettos and orania is nonsense. Black people aren't allowed to live in Orania. There are a lot of white people who are embraced in black communities such as mine. I know 4 different white families who came here due to bad economic conditions. In Orania it is by choice and for the preservation or the Afrikaanner culture
"Black people aren't allowed to live in Orania" can you prove your point please? "There are a lot of white people who are embraced in black communities such as mine" Because they are forced to live there BBEE and AA forced them out of jobs so that for them is the only option.
Prove what?. Name me one black person who resides there, that's my point. And secondly I did mention that bad economic conditions brought them there. Who would willingly go live in a ghetto ?. Yes BEE is a Female dog, but why do you now lash out at me as if I created or am a beneficiary of it ?. Blacks are just as screwed over by the government as whites and bickering over it won't change a single thing. 🙄
If Afrikaners go on like this, they will soon become irrelevant. I doubt that the ANC will agree to this, considering the shifting balance of forces internationally. We are experiencing our own Glasnost and Perestroika moment. Some are awake others are fast asleep and the ANC has the difficult responsibility of steering the ship
"If Afrikaners go on like this, they will soon become irrelevant" 😂You are definitely NOT aware of what is going on in Orania and other organisations but I think it is better that way. Internationally things are changing rapidly and Orania is following that trend, you are fast asleep.
@@michaelstamike If my presentation is somewhat above your head, I apologize. I'm referring to how the change in international balance of forces is impacting our body politic
Recognise? What does that mean? That is not going to happen. He must change the Klipdrift he is drinking. Just bcos we have a GNU does not change the gains of democracy.
NO CRIME, ELECTRICITY WORKS, EVERYONE WORK, STREETS ARE CLEAN, EVERYONE CAN VISIT AND THEY PARTICIPATE TO THE ECONOMY OF THE COUNTRY...... YOU SHOULD BE PROUD OF THEIR SUCCES AND LEARN ABOUT IT!
All civil servants should be paid on merit,basic plus merit,failed ministries penalised ,this lot drain our fiscus,very little value add,they are a liability.
"... and we do pray to God to save and to bless Africa because we are part of it, we are taking part of it, and we want to see the best Africa, the best South Africa, which would be a community of communities and not just a government with so many individuals under it". Yoh.
Verwoed is from the Netherlands. Communities are mixed here in SA, Sotho people share communities with Tsonga people etc. People from Orania think they're better than everybody else. He's reasons for wanting to be recognized don't even make sense. There's no space for apartheid here
Pretty much everything. Whites are forever “guilty” of all corruption in this country. I came from Northern Ireland, and was exactly the same politic between catholics and Protestants. Call it what you like, it’s a system of oppression, with extra never ending corruption to boot. This is not a country of hope, it’s one of never ending destructive politics
Malema warned us and we did not listen
Indeed
@porter9494you're just a bunch of wusses to me. A race so insecure that throughout history and present times it's always trying to prove to God that they are better than African people.
@porter9494 but the black people continue to be poor while whites continue to be richer more.
WP also created porn, atomic bombs, guns, slavery, ethnic cleansing, mass murders and Capitilist systems the oppresss even their own kind. I don't know about being respected while I agree with being feared yes. @porter9494
Malema must mind Zimbabwean affairs as he is one of them
They have planned this long time ago with Ramaphosa
😕😕🫥🫥Rams again, the narrative
Please share the plan
Go to all DA leaders interviews and Ramaphosa interviews and speeches before and after election. Then make a judgement on it. I can't explain for someone who is lazy to read, listen and do own research . Because will never get anything from SABC
@@Majozilukhozi you are the lazy one only started being vocal from 2019. We have been vocal and doing research since 2003. Go and read your school notes and prove me wrong
Why now ? The voices are louder now they know our time is now
if revote happens anc will never see lite
we don't care to be honest
DA, IFP will win nothing.
@@Questioning4u oh no you will care 😂,when your master is out of power, mkp viva viva, msholozi, msholozi
@@siyabongajacobdlamini1764 Msholozi the sellout we don't need State Capture and Gupta 2.0
@@siyabongajacobdlamini1764Zuma is old he must go rest@Nkandla next to his Fire Pool he is a Cry Baby
They isolated themselves and made it clear that its possible to be state-proof .. what changed now...
Exactly what I was thinking
What changed is the introduction of GNU
They have started 😂😂 viva GNU 😂
🤣🤣 those were my thoughts exactly
🤣🤣Amaqabane ka Zille
The next is the independence of the Western Cape with the discovered diamond, oil and the big trade port to the world being controlled by them, in the name of disguising as the good protectors in this area. That's how stupid we will be if we let them.
They are emboldened 😂😂😂
Not even a week before the return of segregation federal laws from this coalition.
I like the firmness of this news anchor.i like her personality,she just shows braveness
Orania does not recognise itself on the basis of race? What is this grand child of Verwoerd been smoking?
Only 0.1% of white people are eligible to live in Orania.
@DumaM-ir7rkre tsile go tsaya lefatshe la rona.
Bottom line
@DumaM-ir7rk The land belongs to those that live in it.
@DumaM-ir7rk ka fa ga rona re dirile tiro ka botlalo. We defeated Paul Kruger while Mzansi polishes his statue as some kind of wet hero.
In fact it was my tribe ee mo kgemethilwng ene keuger yoo wa lona. Maybe you meant to say someone else is converting to khalate. Rona ga re opele thuntsha kana dubula leburu.
Re a bolaile ra a lailela go tshamekela mo go rona. Ga rena nako ya dibodu kwano.
@DumaM-ir7rk y the way, where are those documents you mention so highly of?
Where did you read them so we can all go cross reference too?
Let Orania be and let them not sell nor buy or visit any other place in SA and see if they will not come crying.
No can do. Isreal started like that.
Stop your shit about let it be, you must be a white person to fool us that they will come crying, the other way around it's more crying for black people who are under economic apartheid.
Ñ Boer maak ñ plan, you won't see a Boer cry.
Thank you Naledi for asking all my questions🙏😀
Artikel 235 moet in die Grondwet ingeskryf word!!!!
I am white there is somthing rong about oranja i wil rather live between black poeple
I agree. They're acting like Israel now
That’s how it all started, like small, then next they eat more & more & demand for more & more recognition, & @ the end well see a very big Orania & a small & partial spots of South Africa & that will be the end of Africa, coz wars will be declared in the name of defending themselves. This is not right at all. We’ve witnessed how Israel came to being & its similar to this orania
Well, that’s why you have the option. You do not however have the right to stand in the way of other’s cultural determination
Now go live between them groot bek😂😂😂😂
This must be abolished SAP. This is apartheid and it doesn't have a space in South Africa.
Dream on. Your spineless Ramaphosa will do no such. They will get their wish. So relax and watch your gnu madness unfold
Very soon this VFF is fast becoming irrelevant. If their strategists don't foresee this they Will soon get a rude awakening. The Afrikaners better play ball or they will be rendered irrelevant. Their trick of wanting to bring violence via some parties will not help. The ANC is becoming very powerful, the very same way they were powerful being supported by the EU/US front
Agreed
Nonsense. This is a Constitutional right of every nation on earth. SA must accommodate ALL the nations trapped within it for long term peace.
@@pietercelie BS💩💩💩.
I remember Deklerk in 2017 if Ramaphosa wins it would be a victory for them 😂, zakhala now they are popping up one by one 😂.
This is the beginning of Israel. It cannot be allowed.
You zombie.. Orania don't have their own military.
It's only a matter of time mate, give them special rights and you will see. They already have a mitia
Idiot. Eventually they will create one. It must not be allowed @@jacquesdewet2661
The apartheid government was friends with Israel, for sure they learned this thing from there ,next thing theyll be bombing us wanting more land
Yes for now, overtime, they will have one@jacquesdewet2661
This is the Reason why the Constitution needs to Change
We haven't gone far with gnu and orania is already giving cyril a warning shot....kusazoba lit lapha..... Western Cape is going too.
you are too asleep....
Never
@@lilianhaggland2031 under gnu... it's going... remember da and some europeans have been trying to break Cape Town away from south Africa....under gnu what's stopping them... I'm saying this because apparently cyril and his anc nec team sold the struggle in exchange for their freedom... what's next 🤔
😂😂😂
Orania has been around for a long time. Its not that this happened over night after GNU.
Really dissapointed with most blacks in South Africa - you simply do not want to get a long with whites
ANC voters look the damage you caused in SA with this GNU, ur to be blamed for this nonsense.
And da voters
Orania will be recognized by the ANC, EFF, MK, & all Indigenous Black Africans when Orania & its founders & citizens are RETURNED to Europe. ✌🏿👋🏾👋🏾
Sadly those people are white Africans
how can they return to europe? they've been in africa for more than 300 years. should all black europeans in europe return to africa?
@@lm_b5080brown people have always been here. The cradle of humankind proves that.
I fully agree with you
And bantu colonisers from the north tsek back so my Khoi people can have their land back.
What is this Nonsense ???????😡😡😡😡😡😡😡they can’t be serious
The nonses has always been there it's now showing it's imagine openly they even print there own money
They own your mind and land
You voted for Ramaphosa. So you must accept such things
@@AndrewMcFarlane_1 no they don’t
@@Bommogo how do you know?
The whole of South Africa should be Ran and administered like Orania
True MF story
They have a constitutional right that was signed in 1994. Why are some black people SO SUPER OBSESSED with Orania.
Loa tsenwa. Re tsile go tsa lefatshe la rona re bo re le kgemethe. 🤞🏿
Ukhuluma amasimba
It's in south africa, it cannot be separate
@@ThavenGovender-vv9xp re ka ba fagola ma orania
@DumaM-ir7rk Ka inbreeding yone ya bone ye ba ka tswa ba pateletsa bana.
The audacity 🚮🚮🚮
"my mother was the dauther of Hendrik Vervoed", just say it's your granddad dude 😅😂😂😂
Some thing... Manny
@@llewellynhenman8119 no not the same thing, he just doesn't want it to sound like he's associated with the architect of Apartheid.
He didn't know how to put it, 😂😂😂, seemed a bit scared or unsure what to say...
@@MannyWdzVerwoed was not the orgastrator of Apartheid, I was first presented by Mala.
Israel state started exactly like this
Just remember 8.5 million people speak afrikaans they only want to preserve the language
Some of these comments are utterly stupid. Verwoed's grand son said they bought this land in 1991, Ramaphosa was not even remotely close to parliament. The country was firmly in Apartheid's NP rule.
Mandela was just released months earlier. It is just as ridiculous as this dude's assertions. So that yard is special because 400 people voted. What about Dainfern estate, or Blue Hills and over 3000 estates in SA. Should they also seek constitutional recognition cause they are important.
Delusions of grandeur, in creating your own flag in a democratic country, and establishing a currency for an estate.
Does he even know why other Afrikaaner brotherin of his aren't moving to his father yard in support, or are the claustrophobic of small spaces, or opt not to dig backwards like chicken.
If his people are blocked from opportunities, it is not the government, but his cousins who still over 90% of our economy, and made sure that whoever govern will have no buying power.
Take a hat off to this lady for asking the right questions, now its even clearer that orania sings the entire anthem, nx!
y dont you go back to europe and build your Orania there
@porter9494your crazy, I don’t think you ok in the head that land doesn’t even belong to you😭😭
@porter9494 He wouldn’t be saying go back to Europe if your presence was needed here in our country, you see in Europe you’d stay nicely without a chance of seeing a BP even by mistake, maybe ya’ll should consider doing that and you’ll never be recognised as Africans no matter after how many generations. You’ll always be European. So why don’t you go there and show case your self proclamation to your fellow Europeans, we don’t need that here.
Sies marn look at this proud racist
@proud9494 I'm talking to you
Didnt he call us europeon immigrants?@@newkidontheblock_sa1296
Cannot make this up...Boere want their white only enclave...thanks Ramaphosa...
Afrikaner only. NOT race!
@@pietercelie are there indian afrikaaners??? or black afrikaaners??? stop playing....there was a WHITES ONLY Signage outside the gates of Orania....so you cant change tune now...afrikaaners are white....
@@pietercelieEthnocentrism, even worse than racism. Go make your lalaland in Europe.
Really can't make this up. Are we really here now?
Where everything works and its not stolen or broken by parasites.
Grandson of Hendrik Verwoerd😂😂😂.
ANC is finished next local elections, and we'll be reading its obituary in 2029 national elections😂
ANC has to go completely....
This is going to be a major headache for S.A in future, from what this man is saying, one can deduce that their long term strategy is to eventually create an independent state within S.A. If politicians don't take drastic measures, and make the concept of Orania illegal, it will be an independent state in about 50 years.
Why is it a problem for you. Why do they bother you so much. No one will stop you doing the same thing.
@@SharonKeune-zo1zi Because S.A belongs to all South Africans, and no part of it's territorial should be annexed and given to a small group to form their own country within S.A
@@saitamadecember2806 They brought the Kansas with there own money. The are a community not a country.
@@SharonKeune-zo1zi They're a community with ambitions of becoming their own country, that's why they have their own schools, universities, bank and currency...
Based on your jealousy and racism minds😂😂😂
Hats off Sir. Only federalism can work in the long term.Hope to visit Orania one day and contribute to its welfare.
Why is Orania anymore special than any other place - say Tshwane, Soweto, etc.?
What does it even mean to say a place is "special"?
Why do you even give it a thought
Nothing stop you from asking your ANC to recognise Soweto or tshwane.
@@nedor64your comment is stupid
@@takhulu-gm6glIf you think so no problem.
Its as special as calling KZN - kwa ZULU natal. What makes it so special to be linked to Zulus? To be fair it should be called Natal and that's it. The first settlers in that region were white Portuguese people that named that region Natal because they arrived on the 25th December. (Christmas in Portuguese). When this happenened a large majority of Zulu ancestor s were somewhere in Angola or further up north of Africa
He speaks a lot of rubish but the one that stands out is that he co-founded a piece of land in South Africa called Orania, Ramaphosa why do you allow land theft to happen again? Ramaphosa get your Act together......
For real. He needs to be decisive because his image and stature as an executive state president and CIC of the SANDF has depreciated almost to nothing. He has all the power vested in him but fails to use it. He needs to be a benevolent dictator.
What do you mean he has to get his act together? He is in his Supreme Form right now 😆
😅@@dandyally9983
You talk nonsense!!!
Its not land theft if you buy it - the land in South Africa never belonged, does not belong and will never belong to any exclusive race.
Thanks Duma for addressing the madness of claiming ownership without receipts.
Nazo GNU😂😂
😂😂😂
Nelson Mandela, ANC President gave permission for Orania.
Every culture must get their own Orania then
Leave Orania alone. Oranianians want peace, where kids are free, women can walk anytime of the night.
Why do you want to interfere?
You know mos they want their own flag and borders, their own military, own currency. Something like Is real, what happens when it gets strong and takes more land, when countries like us feed the monster?
You are a sad case of coconut. Can there ever be an African version of Orania in Europe? Mxm
@@Madman73ff You scared of less than 3000 peaceful , law abiding citizens ?
they can go and be free in europe....where they come from....
Hence we anti GBV, your absolutely lost cos Orania is found based on race, secondly there was a case of a white man there found to have sexually abused young boys, Orania shall never be recognised by many progressive South Africans considering our dark history of apartheid.🇿🇦
If orania needs to be recognised....no problem,let them change their flag n use South Africa flag🇿🇦then maybe their matter can be attended to...
And use South African currency.
The flag of murder, rape and corruption. No thanks
Good thing.
Orania has a good & successful story 2 tell.
Everything seems 2 work there.
Seems is not make sure 🤔
@@yayaacombi6224 semantics ... as opposed to rest of South Africa where nothing works. Its usually stolen or broken by people that add very little value to society yet d under the impression the world owes them much.
Should KZN make their own currency like ORANIA.
It would be a good start!
😂 😂 😂 😂
What would you name that currency ???
And Western Cape
Orania is racist because the basis of entrance is race and not culture as it is falsely claimed here …the false assumption here is that culture amounts to race , I can be Xhosa but raised in the Zulu culture , same way a black person can be raised in the Afrikaner culture.
So this “we are preserving our culture by not allowing blacks to live here “ is an obvious fallacy.
Zulus don’t need to make it hard for Xhosas to live in KzN as a means of preserving the Zulu culture, that would be ridiculous.
I can’t figure out if this is racism or just lack of imagination, but whatever it is , it’s stupid.
But you hate whites, are you not happy they live quietly, mind there own business , don't bother anyone and build and develop there community with there own fund's.
Funny they want to be recognized by a Ramaphosa because they now know they have their step father.
It must never be allowed.
Thse white underestimate the black and it will be they downfall..fovever
The South African Defense Department must establish in Orania a permanent military training base and barracks , provide residential facilities for South African Citizens that would be stationed there for military service slong with their family members The territory is well suited for that purpose just like any other part of South Africa .
😂well said.
It's private land.
What a good idea.
@@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ubwe will scrap all that private land bullshit.
This is Africa not nerthalands
You see now??? it's only gonna get worse trust me
anc ere tlwayela masepa pila pila
Unfortunately we keep voting for it, some blacks even vote for DA😢
Language pls
O ska lebala black people who voted for da
ANC fall on the wrong hands who don't know about the struggle
Really, why dont all people just leave Orania and its people.
It is just causing a stir.
I sometimes wonder why God has so much patience with us. It is unreal the hate.
Who in his real mind will stay and live in Karoo
Nazo😂😂😂😂😂 its gonna be a long day for sellouts
Appropriate Orania without compensation and give the land back to africans.
Like you did in zimbabwe and look at zim now you zimdollar
We have double agents in this country
@@User-.-_007-s😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
This can only happen in Zimbabwe not democratic South Africa
Zimdollar and Zig.
Recently, Mr Mnangagwa visited Russia. Among the questions that President Putin asked Mr Mnangagwa was, "Mr Mnangagwa, why are your hyenas scattered all over other people's countries?" Mr Mnangagwa replied and said, "There in Zimbabwe, we keep hyenas in public parks. "
Zimbabweans must comment on matters that affect their own country and leave South African affairs with South Africans. We don't doubt ourselves in South Africa. That's the reason we don't poke our noses in any country's affairs.
Federalism is perfectly OK in South Africa. People should be free to do what they want. I don't want to visit Oranja, so let them do what they like.
Orania is just like a village, SA gov is servicing Orania and Orania respect the law. Police in Orania are SAPS and they do everything according to the law
Cyril has drought sh@t in to our house 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
GO CRY😂😂
There’s more yet to come. This is just the top of the iceberg…Has the countdown to 2029 begun yet?
@@The12archangels refrain from calling us "bantus" we don't even call ourselves that. And it is Cyril's fault that we have whites-only enclaves post Apartheid
EFF voted that they be included in constitution - listen again. I hope they refuse to be part of SA on EFF TERMS.
Antartica has lots of free land with large ice resources for you to sell to the penguin market
why are we even allowing Orania to vote?
The same reason why people like you can freely comment on social media!
I support this. Orania is an excellent showcase of the prosperity a society can achieve if everyone rolls up their sleeves and work not only for the benefit of the individual but to advance their society as a whole.
You must be Afrikaneer or mad.
South Africa belongs to black people they must go back to Netherlands.
We all would if they do it in the Netherlands no place for a racist state here.
Why are they afraid to go to the west and ask for the land and build orania. It's obvious these people were banned in all the western countries, they did something wrong surely they were from prison.
YOU MUST GO BUILD THAT IN POLAND AND NITHERLAND
Strictly speaking, should probably not be allowed to
Oh yes i start to understand Mr.Malima.
Next is Western Cape, Good move guys Take everything. Take advantage of this GNU, this is your opportunity.
This lady Naledi under appreciated. She's simply good at her.
Enjoy her questioning and coverage always❤
🤣🤣🤣 all the chest pain comments.
They hate when people have things that work and aren't stolen or broken by parasites.
No ways. They can stay there. Why now all of a sudden
😢😢EFF TOLD U SOO SA 😢AES =HOPE ❤
Mark my words, we are heading back to the Homelands State. Reason's been the so called GNU will approve.
grow up!
Built by Afrikaners for Afrikaners proud what they have achived without a cent from government.
Boers*
Built by boers on stole land....by the way boers didnt come to africa with millions...that money you talking about was made in SA, to the exclusion of black people....
That place was created by the former president of this country and was supported by him and his gov throughout his life. A government handout is still a government handout whether it's from ANC or NP. Stop lying to people.
His grandfather was running the apartheid government.
to all people with their racial comments, please explain the difference between a tribal community and cultural community then ask your self why the MK of Zuma did so well, maybe just maybe what Carel said that SA should be a community of communities will get you past your racial short shortsightedness.
Dear Naledi, it about Identity... not color!!!
Karel, I respect your people and your idea. But comparing ghettos and orania is nonsense. Black people aren't allowed to live in Orania. There are a lot of white people who are embraced in black communities such as mine. I know 4 different white families who came here due to bad economic conditions. In Orania it is by choice and for the preservation or the Afrikaanner culture
0.1% of whites are eligible to live in Orania so don't feel offended.
"Black people aren't allowed to live in Orania" can you prove your point please? "There are a lot of white people who are embraced in black communities such as mine" Because they are forced to live there BBEE and AA forced them out of jobs so that for them is the only option.
They even only allow one type of white person.
Prove what?. Name me one black person who resides there, that's my point. And secondly I did mention that bad economic conditions brought them there. Who would willingly go live in a ghetto ?. Yes BEE is a Female dog, but why do you now lash out at me as if I created or am a beneficiary of it ?. Blacks are just as screwed over by the government as whites and bickering over it won't change a single thing. 🙄
This is so true, 100% agree with your statement...
Apartheid secterianism should not be tolerated.
ANC likes it, you late😅
If Afrikaners go on like this, they will soon become irrelevant. I doubt that the ANC will agree to this, considering the shifting balance of forces internationally. We are experiencing our own Glasnost and Perestroika moment. Some are awake others are fast asleep and the ANC has the difficult responsibility of steering the ship
"If Afrikaners go on like this, they will soon become irrelevant" 😂You are definitely NOT aware of what is going on in Orania and other organisations but I think it is better that way. Internationally things are changing rapidly and Orania is following that trend, you are fast asleep.
They will agree man especially this ANC of Ramaphosa already they sold us to the DA
@@michaelstamike If my presentation is somewhat above your head, I apologize. I'm referring to how the change in international balance of forces is impacting our body politic
Nobody will ever get rid of Afrikaners. One of the strongest nations in the world. Give us bare land and we will build a masterpiece.
Gnu fruits
It's only 1700 people that live there. Very small group of people living in the past. Not important.
Only a matter of time until DA supports this.
Honestly, if you feel threatened by this then you are very uninformed. 😂
Wtf😂crooked proxy anc is turning this country into a joke😂
Orania must be cancelled
Totally canceled
With immediately effect....
@@JourneyWithDrBill In Netherlands. Go find your feathers there.
Must be invaded by force
😂😂 Only u can answer that question, I know u got stupid trick up your sleeves.@@JourneyWithDrBill
Very interesting indeed
Nobody should be forced to sing any national athem it's a freedom of choice. My national athem is the OUR FATHER PRAYER. 😂
Wait for land expropriation without compensation. This orange joke is going to be shut down.
Ftsk
Wrong timing on these people mara, ababini sisalwa ne GNU ne vote riging?
The voter that voted for EFF will be found 😂😂😂
😀😀😆🤣😂
🤣🤣🤣and they are laughing
Just like Isreal, i see Orania gaining 50 percent of south africa. When America and Uk back Orania , there will gain 73 percent of South africa
Why do you see Orania as a threat?
Recognise? What does that mean? That is not going to happen. He must change the Klipdrift he is drinking. Just bcos we have a GNU does not change the gains of democracy.
Here we go...😂
Where are all the clever blacks who voted for the DA?? This is the result of your actions!
So intelligent blacks vote for criminals?
@@Amogelang22o sethupethi.
Re tsile go tsa lefatshe la rona re bo re ba kgemetha. 🤞🏿
Le wena if you stand in our way.
They will never be let them go to hell
Legally recognize an entho enclave that has it's own currency and national anthem?
Orania in my grandfather land that was stolen
Who did your grandfather steal the land from ?
@@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub time is coming, justice will be served. Dont be ignorant you know very well what happened.
@@agenech1239 Yes , I know what happened. Black people stole land from the Khoi San.
@@agenech1239 The Khoi San want their land back.
@@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ubwho are the Khoi and the San if I may ask? Because almost all black people in SA are the descendants of the Khoisan?
More are still to come with this GNU . time will tell.
Am just waiting what will come
Segregation but anc is fine with that 😂😂😂
NO CRIME, ELECTRICITY WORKS, EVERYONE WORK, STREETS ARE CLEAN, EVERYONE CAN VISIT AND THEY PARTICIPATE TO THE ECONOMY OF THE COUNTRY......
YOU SHOULD BE PROUD OF THEIR SUCCES AND LEARN ABOUT IT!
Never a Yes or a No !!!
A place like Orania does NOT belong in SA🇿🇦‼️👺😰🤬😡🤬😡
Just because you say so. Are you a wannabe dictator ?
Never not on our land of our forefathers Oranua crazy state in a state to hell NO
All civil servants should be paid on merit,basic plus merit,failed ministries penalised ,this lot drain our fiscus,very little value add,they are a liability.
We cant allow this its either a part of South Africa or they going to have to have to go to Europe
I like the lady interview style.
Disgusting by the ANC
"... and we do pray to God to save and to bless Africa because we are part of it, we are taking part of it, and we want to see the best Africa, the best South Africa, which would be a community of communities and not just a government with so many individuals under it". Yoh.
Verwoed is from the Netherlands. Communities are mixed here in SA, Sotho people share communities with Tsonga people etc. People from Orania think they're better than everybody else. He's reasons for wanting to be recognized don't even make sense. There's no space for apartheid here
You are "excluded" in what way if i may ask?
About R200 Billion per year
@@donnieconradie800They claim to be self-sufficient moss, so they must keep up their good work
Pretty much everything. Whites are forever “guilty” of all corruption in this country. I came from Northern Ireland, and was exactly the same politic between catholics and Protestants. Call it what you like, it’s a system of oppression, with extra never ending corruption to boot. This is not a country of hope, it’s one of never ending destructive politics