When "Good Game" Fails -- Student Infield Breakdown
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- Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024
- Full clip is available at: systembytodd.com
First of all, I want to say a big thank you and send encouragement to the student whose footage I'm breaking down here. While I do point out his mistakes and even give him a bit of a hard time at points, I have a lot of faith and confidence in him. 1. He is dedicated 2. He's seeking guidance 3. He's a pretty cool guy overall 4. His game is above average already 5. He is very coachable and has relatively easy-to-fix mistakes. So once again, thank you and good job.
As far as the lessons in this video, the main ones (engaging the group, and sequencing of the interaction) are super common mistakes I see from students on my live coaching programs: www.toddvdatin... and toddimmersion.com so it's great to get them on camera and explain them to a wider audience.
The full clip is available at systembytodd.com . These are actually some of the more common mistakes I see, and the guy I was breaking down actually had pretty decent game compared to a lot of guys I see. You can learn a ton from this one, as well as some things that have never really been discussed before.
Thanks Todd.
- A nigga from New York
Todd please continue on this subjects its life changing. This is like pure gold.
Mr. Todd I always knew my future was going to be White and how to deal with white people.
I want practicality but I just don't know how
“The Master has failed more times than the student has tried”
Good on this guy, I’m sure he’s killing it now!
very nice....
....and please thank your student for having the balls to allow himself to be critiqued for our benefit.
I thought about that. I was like damn would I have the balls to be filmed and critiqued by a guy I've watched for years and a bunch of other dudes? Props to these guys
That guy has way, I mean way, more courage than I ever did when I was single. I hated rejection so bad I was very passive in my approach. I admire his courage.
Same
And now?
@@sharonlima8913Bro just doesn't approach now 💀
I love how Todd breaks everything down. The problem is in the field when you feel anxious it's very hard to think clearly so these excuses where the student could have teased is easier said than done.
These videos are a fantastic supplement to the "how to game" videos. By analyzing common mistakes, it feels a lot more like we're working together to create a better version of myself. Thanks, Todd!
Todd gives so much free Game its crazy.He can't be duplicated.
honestly Todd no homo but i love you, you've changed my life... beyond game. i hit a plateau for years.... yes years... now the past few month of going hardcore on your teachings ive improved expontentially more than i did all those years fucking around listening to less credible sources... thank you , i will repay you one day. I feel obligated. wish you the best man
Everyones all mad at the dude. Like, who cares, it's good for teaching and learning.
No one is entitled to be mad at this guy.
Sometimes when watching advanced game, the lessons seem unrelatable. This video was a great way for me to see the practical problems in my own game! Todd V, you the man! :O
This is a great learning tool. My personal game sucks. By seeing in real time someone make mistakes and then have them critiqued is invaluable. Hope you can produce more of this type of video with a variety of other learning students.
Thanks.
On the other hand doing what he's doing is still a lead over lots, lots of young guys. Even if it's a bad, short set - so many guys are not even there to approach and follow the conversation. Most of the time any "game" IRL appears between a known girl and a guy, not a stranger girl and a guy (which is still better than nothing if it pushes you forward). Great reminder that wherever you are with your skills now anyone had to be there some day in order to advance further.
Jesus how good Todd's solutions and answers I really envy his fast and witty responses and hope I'd be close to his level one day
Just found your channel, incredible content and thank you for your videos.
I was a professional poker player for 5 years and it's crazy how similar these 2 games are. It's all about information, sequencing a coherent story and backing yourself. "If you aren't getting it in bad then you're not getting it in enough" - Phil Ivey, telling poker players to take more risk, be aggressive and less concerned about losing, is almost tantamount to "If you're never getting an offended response, that's a problem"
Makes so much sense.
Another skill I studied during this time was body language, just as an added dimension of information and reads- your own body language is perfect, laid back, open with the right gesturing movements.
Your student however, starts off relatively open albeit a bit rigid but works himself into a defensive arm cross and self comforts regularly. Even to someone who doesn't know how to consciously pick up on these things- instinctively they will and will not work in your favour.
I'm surprised this wasn't addressed to your student and viewers- I know it's quite specific, but it would be interesting to know your thoughts on body language in game.
For those who are still struggling with the chat-up process, here are the five steps:
1) Open with premise.
2) "Stack" base on what you observe about her.
3) Vibe with her.
4) She invests in you by asking questions about you.
5) Close with getting her number or going for an instant date.
If you're a total begininer this is not easy because old habits die hard which is why you need to book Todd bootcamp.
what does open with premise and stack base even mean, practically speaking?
@@moviedude22 Open with premise is what you saw that guy in all of his approaches. All the girls knew what he was there for as soon as he opened his mouth.
Stack is simply using whatever you observe about her and "stack" information about it. For example, he observed one of the girls was wearing a cool shoe, he could stack a lot of information about the shoe and then "Vibe" from there.
@High Level Spanish You done all that while she's investing, Einstein.
@High Level Spanish There was nothing missing. It's you that didn't understand the 5 steps I mentioned. You talked about the girl qualifying herself but if you really know what "she invests" means in pickup, you would know that's when you have to cheekily make her to qualify herself.
@bloomingben5119 this is vary informative thank you!
This is so so helpful! Please keep doing videos like this because I like watching the in field that you do, but because I’m still a beginner, I don’t really know how to fix my mistakes or how to notice what mistakes I am doing so seeing an infield of a student, somebody who might be a lot closer to my level, is very helpful to see what those mistakes are and to realize that you were doing that all along. This way, I feel like I am getting coached by you. Please make more vids like this!!!
Do more of these, really good stuff Todd
Amazing video TODD, pure game, did the same mistakes this past months, huge respect for you !
I thought of you as a theoretical lecturer but I found this to be great visually practical and applicable advice. Excited if this is a direction you’re heading in with future videos.
The potential is definitely there with this man 🏅
Todd you r the best ! i've seen alot of guys but you r unique n simple at the same time n u provide us all needed infos in all kind of situations! salutations from Morocco
Morocco is hard place to game. I approached there few girls and it felt like I am going to be shot by somebody when talking to them
From Morocco too lol
@Marouan Elouardi no way ! i thought i'm the only one watches these things hhh
@@arkadmedia9300 what the heck ! am i dreaming i literaly never thought that guys from morocco would be watching the pick up girls thing
@Marouan Elouardi that's awesome dude ! i'm really surprised , three moroccans replied like within 2 minutes , i was thinking that maybe i'm the only one watches these things , i'll add u bro or u can add me on facebook ' Hamza moza Bourriz '
Todd I just want to say thank you. you have amazing content. I just realized how entitled some of your audience is and its ridiculous you are exposed to that. I appreciate everything you've had to do to get to this level.
It also seems like if one is doing these and there’s a string of tough ones that get shut down, it would be hard to trust that anything is going well after a certain point. So this perseverance is commendable.
hey todd can you bring more content of Mr. JP
Arthur O Can you stop jacking off to NBA players
agree bro, JP was dope, hope he is alright
@@droptopfab9162 you need mental help bro. I feel bad for you seek help there is still hope for you.
Jp is cool. 😎
@@arturoorendain1477 Great comeback btw.
Please do more of this it's helpful
More videos like these Todd! I learn so much from them!
Great vid! Put out more of these infield trials and errors! They are very useful
The only real Pick Up Artist from RSD. Thank you Todd for what you do.
Massive value here Todd ! God bless u
Indeed great content Todd, you are right it exposed certain details I’ve never heard or seen in action. Huge value to see these “fail” moments. Either recommended for somebody that already knows something about game because otherwise if your brand new it can kind of confuse your steer you towards the wrong direction
If you *haven't* had this happen, you aren't approaching enough.
Yes! If anything this deserves to be the top rated comment. This actually happened to me quite a bit, I open, then establish a premise, the girl doesn't talk that much and I either get this awkward silence or question after question after question. I'm still trying to figure it out, but what I've figured out is that I should probably initiate more topics and do most of the talking in the beginning, then as she opens up I start to let her talk more. Another thing that kind of worked for me is I read a bunch of topics ranging from chess to movies to investing to 9 ball pool; anything to stay up on current events, so when a girl even mentions slightly any of this stuff I can immediately continue the conversation.
If you haven't had this happen then you aren't approaching enough or you are really good looking and get a lot of positive sets. Lol
This man is better than all the so called dating coaches put together. His content is phenomenal!
teamometeamo Your a loser cuz you put datching coaches on pedestal
Lol and you're one cause you tried to 1 up
@@droptopfab9162 It's been a while since I last heard the word loser, because I stopped associating with them. Also, it's ironic to get word from a looser himself!
I like this type of content, do more of this please. This shows us what not to do and what to do.
Great video, Todd! This is one of my biggest sticking points. The student actually uses the same opener I use
They Todd immediately breaks things down (that the average dude would not see as mistakes) and how he knows x,y and z are missing reminds me of sales training.
Watching this hurts sooo fucking bad, but the learnings are invaluable. Not to say i am better at game than him right now, i still fucking suck, but still, damn these lessons are gold!
The cameraman did a great job 👍
That was a great comment
Lol
Subtitles when your client speaks to you would be great, can't hear them most of the time
This is literally every guy's problem who is new to Daygaming and flirting. I will be sharing this all over the place.
@DaKingInDaNorf And waste your time watching these type of videos and taking the time to respond on a comment... lol
He went in for the kill too quick lol, good job though, he went for it
Thanks to you and your tips I have dated several girls over the past few weeks. Thank you todd. one day I will come to the US to see u in person. I have so much confidence in me now compared to before...
Do more of these.
Thank you for showing this Todd. Great demonstration of the over/under number-this video has inspired me to get out there 🤘
This puts approaching into a much more realistic perspective, because that's what usually happens in my experience. Thanks Todd
One of your best videos!
By the way Todd I went to your hot seat a long tome ago
I still think you’re fucking A1.
You all need to be checking out his stuff this guy’s a legend when it comes to game and also when it comes to articulating certain concepts in a way you can grasp them. His teaching skill is unmatched
Todd is simply the Guru.
Great video. Really hammered down on some core fundamental.
No cap some of these videos make me feel like a natural
Gold a while i was more like this student right now i fixed some if not all these sticking points which is great.
Parroting also gives your subconscious time to answer well (you can also emphasise certain words this way). He's way too polite. I keep missing you when you're in town Todd!
He sounded like a robot up until the very end when some emotion leaked through lol, probably because he was nervous af and just reciting canned lines.
There are few things I can think of that are more nerve racking than to pick up a female like that. No alcohol, total stranger, just right out of the blue like that. I admire his courage.
When I was single my brain would just blank out I was so nervous.
I noticed the same. I think he would be more interesting to girls by playing with tonality. Having a smirk and flirty tonality on the opener
Powerful info as always
Todd I've a question. I'm in Europe. I've been talking to this girl at events & applied the rules of game. She's somewhat attracted to me but she told me she has a friend that she cares about. I tried to investigate more from her & she told me that's not her boyfriend so that means maybe a friend with benefits or a bf in the making. She hasn't dated anyone in 4 years. When she told me about this I showed her that I'm not really pleased by it & that's when she started coming closer to me by trying to cheer me up & asking why am I 'quite'? How'd I proceed in this particular situation & take things to the next level.
Ps: we've not kissed yet however I've been touching her kissing on cheeks & talking to her in ear like physically intimate. She seems like she takes things slow
One of the best Todds video 🔥🔥
Todd could you do a rejections compilation of yourself.
All this for free. Thanks man you’re the best !
Great video. More like these would be great
shout outs to your student being the example for this video but tbh i feel like he needs to loosing up a bit idk if hes scared or what but women feel the energy coming off of us so he needs to be more confident
Superb breakdown, Todd. Now, I wonder why we still talk so much about "getting the number" within the pickup community. Why not go for Instagram instead? It's way more casual and low commitment for the girl and, if you're doing things right (which you should) it's the perfect way to convey a nice lifestyle and social proof through your pictures, passively, without having to actually work on it during the interaction. It's also way more casual to restart the conversation there replying to a stories, and then you can go from there.
Hi Todd, great video! I was wondering if you could make a video about going out on actual dates with these girls from cold approach? You often make videos about approaching and I think Ive gotten quite good at that, I now have basically no problem going out, getting some solid numbers and getting the girl out on a date through text. However, these dates rarely lead to anything :/ I feel like I always escalate too soon or too late or choose the wrong venue for the date etc... A video on Day 2s would really help :)
After 8 years of game and 200+ lays let me give you one piece of advice that trumps every system. Don't have a system and don't think. All Game is, is ''YOU being OUT of your HEAD''. That's it, nothing else matters, no lines, no technics just flow and pure expression.
What you don't understand is, you've internalised all the concepts of game to the point that you can do it well without being in your head... it's called subconscious competence. Happy to debate this with you.
That’s just considered natural game. That’s the method you are describing.
Yo I've been doing this exact thing... Open, a little bit of premise and then try to close for something wayyyyyyyy too fast. The missing step seems to be to just ask a few qualifying questions and volunteer some information on your own. I need to go over The System again...
I also used to make that mistake , when I first started out 6 years ago , but now I don't anymore . It's because I now know what of a woman I'm attracted to emotionally . I have met beautiful women who can't turn me on and I cut the conversation because I don't like them .
Todd: I feel like you are worried about being a little offensive...
Guy in the background: yEeAaH
12:15
Holy shit, this video is absolute gold
This was awesome keep doing these
Just the video I needed. Love it!
Amazing!! However, I felt like his tonality was a bit monotone and “boring”? I felt like he could make himself more interesting by sounding more excited at times. Anyone noticed this also? Because I know I sound like this unless I do an effort to spice it up
Very informative man thanks
Man i honestly think you are one of the best people one would want to come accross in order to become better with girls
The guy done quite well.....takes balls to cold approach day game. He's on the way.
The video is very interesting, but why do you have a sword in the background? Which sword is it? 😊
Guy: bikes huh?
Girl: that's right
Guy: they yours?
Girl: yeah
Guy: both of them?
😭
If that guy’s an intermediate, then I’m the Magic Johnson of game, lol, and I’m not even that great yet.
@@fecaldegallo2247 lol definitely too much cringe to be intermediate 😂
+1 for Dumb & Dumber reference
Great VALUE its a hint of why you pay the master!!!!!
Please post more often on YT! Love your videos!
Mainly the student isn't confident, he needs to build up his confidence above all before game is analyzed. Todd is really good at getting in depth.
"Guy was horny and he hit on me and I said yes" LOL, that's hilarious.
Thanks Todd!
That first approach felt pretty weird tbh
Edit: Ok I just watched the whole thing and Todd is correcting them. Pretty common mistakes too!
I'm learning:]
Great analyzation! It’s good to see you critique students who have failed. Most of us make these mistake without knowing why, but this is the solution. Please make more
If they are in rush it’s hard to still talk and make a connection
I feel you're worried about being offensive a little bit.
Yaaaa!!!!
I'm trynna see more JP! Also more 2 sets! Give is JP in 2 sets!
Seemed like most of the girls were interested and left it open for him to close it but he didn't know how.
Good breakdown bro
Tone was a lot better at the end as well.
Before this video, I thought you never made video's on students infield.
Please be careful to all my fellow PuA family, RUclips is attacking us and blocking the big channels because of a documentary made in Europe. Please be safe and record all their videos.
Amazing video todd....
I have the same sticking points
This is amazing, love this!
I feel like the last girl was in to him and that's the reason the interaction was flowing smoothly. The other girls were just a waste of time, even if he had the numbers they will probably be flakes
There is a certain yo-yo period as you swing between too direct and fizzling out. I haven't got the hang of it yet but I do best when I let go a little and try to enjoy the interaction. Over many attemptsbin short succession, you basically develop an aura of command in a sense which gives you an incredibly sense of security from all the previous interactions. Todd must have done thousands of approaches.
Great one Todd!
Really cool video, it's how important feedback is
Todd, I love u man
Maybe when you're wearing more casual shoes. Lol
This was great.
I don't get why PUA coaches ultimately always come up with the "numbers game" argument. "You just have to do 100 approaches and you will get laid for sure". Yeah... guess what, if you approached 100 girls and got rejected 99 times and got laid once, your confidence, as well as your self-value won't be at an all-time high. You will feel pretty empty and crushed. That's why cold approaching, especially in the streets doesn't work in the long run for the majority of guys.
after every day approaching you need to stop and think what you could have done better, after doing that 100 times, you should be A LOT better at it...
Can you do more of the videos where you analyze movie character's game
Todd first video I've seen wow great content brotha