The co pilot who survived the Tenerife aircraft disaster
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- In March 1977, two jumbo jets collided at Tenerife Airport killing 583 people. It was the worst crash in aviation history.
The two Boeing 747s were among those diverted from nearby Gran Canaria Airport earlier in the day due to security concerns.
But when the all clear came to resume their journeys, a combination of bad weather and miscommunication meant that Pan Am Flight 1736 was still on the runway as KLM Flight 4805 attempted take-off.
Captain Robert Bragg was the co-pilot aboard the Pan Am plane, and was one of the few who survived the collision. He spoke to Witness about that terrible disaster.
You have to feel for Bob, he is very old now but the image of that KLM aircraft coming straight at him must feel like yesterday even though it was 40 years ago
Ed Kahler
If you died, would you like your memory tarnished by idiots on RUclips???
-Sam
@@paulmadeja8550 wtf are you talking about? nobody is tarnishing anything. everyone is giving him the proper condolences as he deserves. someone saying he's dead isn't offensive. people are too sensitive on here.
I could only imagine how that must've felt. Truly terrifying. RIP Mr Robert Bragg .
I want to give Bob a big hug , fk corona
@@boaramongstpigs yea, Mr. Bragg is gone now God rest his soul, so will all of us sooner or later, one way or the other, the Atc should have never sent the Pan Am on the runway until the KLM had taken off given the existing conditions.
Bob Bragg passed away in 2017. He was 79. Besides having a new lease on life of almost 40 years, he was here to share firsthand on what REALLY happened and thus leaving nothing to speculation or conjecture. A great airman and gentleman as well.
well said sir
Rest in peace Captain Robert Bragg 😢 hope you're resting easy brother
He told us very little... and how could he tell any more? Most of that shit went down behind him.
To think almost 40 years have passed since this terrible day, Bob must go to sleep every night with the image of the KLM jumbo coming at him. He is the only one who can really tell what happened without need for reconstruction
Pitr yes what a haunting image he must have in his mind
ROBERT BRAGG, THE PAM AM FIRST OFFICER RECENTLY DIED FEBRUARY 9 , 2017 ..
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AMI I didn't know that until now, god bless this man, he finally joins his fellow colleagues in heaven, you have to imagine that this awful day was amongst his final thoughts
THE MAN IN THIS VIDEO- ROBERT BRAGG, (THE PAM AM FIRST OFFICER) RECENTLY DIED ON FEBRUARY 9 , 2017 : (
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RIP ROBERT BRAGG
Oh no I didn't know that...RIP.
Sorry to hear that. His speech is different than when he participated in the earlier documentaries, thinking maybe he had a stroke or something. At least he had a new almost 40 year lease on life after the crash.
Interesting how he describes the sound of the impact as seemingly minor when the other pilot said in another documentary it was a kind of shattering boom. Really says a lot about how unique perception can be from a shared traumatic event.
It could be... Yeah 🤔 shocking moments man
Yeah that's the interesting bit
People experience and remember the same traumatic events differently, sadly I know this from experience. My sister and I have PTSD from a shared trauma that we experienced from when I was 14 and she was 16.
I have an excellent long-term memory (and an awful short-term) for normal situations but I can only actively remember a couple things from that period, but I firmly believe that that what I can’t actively remember I experience in nightmares and triggers. My sister is the opposite, bad-longterm great short-term. She remembers everything but doesn’t get the nightmare (still has triggers). I’m not going to speak on her experience other than that, because it’s not for me to share.
The things I do remember we have different recollections of with specific details, one of which is a certain noise. I don’t want to go into this anymore because it’s really difficult for me to talk about.
PTSD sucks.
One of the air hostesses described the same thud-like sound.
two kids i went to school with lost their parents on that pan am jet.
40 years ago but the memory is fresh of that day at school when we all found out and were confused and saddened at the lost look in our two schoolmates eyes.
Fuck em
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How are d children?
His survival changed aviation. God bless him. I’ll fly with Captain Bragg anywhere!
Not anymore he died 4 years ago
What changes may I ask? Just curious.
@@SAF3182 he passed a few years ago
@@tracksidequeen Yes, I'm aware but what changes?
@@SAF3182 improved and more standardized use of english, improved atc - pilot talking methods, implementation of ground radar and other similar stuff, extra caution when on the ground, the big problem of captains having to much power/first officers afraid to speak up, and most importantly, the memory of tenerife alone, whenever anything similar happens people always remember tenerife and get extra cautious
True country gentleman. He passed away about 7 weeks before the 40th anniversary. My God! What mental discipline these jetliner pilots have to have to carry so many people. It is not like driving a school bus. For almost 40 yrs to have that image of the K.L.M. 747 coming straight at you. Not exactly a 16 wheeler tanker truck. R.I.P. Capt. Bragg. You,ve earned your wings. God Bless this man.
Capt. Bragg seemed like a very nice southern boy, possibly a Vietnam or Korean war vet, pilot. R.I.P. Capt. Bragg. You,ve earned your wings. As an aviation historian I shed a tear for this man. To live with this survivors guilt for 39 yrs. and 11 months. Please God! embrace him. His immortal soul is now yours. Of course the souls of the 583 dead are also yours. Capt.Bragg passed away Feb 9, 2017.
Nice words, maybe he will finally meet captain van zanten in heaven and ask him why he did what he did that day
Maybe Mr. Bragg will have to travel to hell to meet van zanten and ask him that
Tom Sawyer I don't think so, Van Zanten didn't set out that day to have it be his last, fact is he made a most catastrophic error, I'm sure he'd have gone to heaven because chances are he was a decent man throughout his life
Tom, I know he disregard everything but he heard simply the word "ok" so he didn't abort the takeoff, you can't blame 1 man for 583 lives, it's allmost 600 people, if he heard the conversation between the Pan Am and ATC he would have aborted the takeoff straight away....... God bless all these people, lock after Van Zanten, and everybuddy alse offcource! Make sure that Jakob lives fine up there and that he is in the heawen, because he was such a great person/father!!! But that does not meam that what he did was ok, I just think that it was more Of a tecnical cause of the accident... than Pilot error..
Divine Perigrine Falcon God...Take care of the pilots of both crew, the other members of these crew and all pasengers, now one diservs too die in an accident, at least not like this
I once met Bob Bragg at a bar in Boothbay Harbor, Maine (mid 80s as best I can recall). We were introduced by a mutual friend, and talked for over an hour. To put it kindly, he was a mess. Terrible survivors guilt; :didn’t talk directly about the accident and talked a lot about the people on his plane who died (he didn’t have any sympathy for the KLM captain and by extension I guess for the passengers on the Dutch plane - at least he didn’t talk about them). He couldn’t work at anything, and defined his life in terms of “before Tenerife” and “after Tenerife.” Very sad. At least now his pain is over. RIP Bob.
You were proven a liar on the flight channel with a variant of this comment, which you’ve obviously modified for this video. On the flight channel, you told us that Bob never flew again having been so riddled with guilt. All that was proven a lie but your dumbass is right back at it here. Find something else to do jagoff.
Wow!! Really? He seems like such a gentle soul. I can't imagine what he went through
I met a woman in NYC whose grandparents perished in this disaster. They were on their way home to California. It took a very very long time for their family to receive any compensation or even an apology because these were "older people with no dependents". They had to sue for "mental anguish" which was a very real thing and they had to get psychiatrists and doctors involved. They smwere followed too. Tgey said at one point they wanted to give up but decided not to let KLM get away with it
@@francisnewlandnewland Were they on the Pan Am or KLM
@@roquefortfilesRead the last sentence of the comment.
it is an unfortunate reality that many safety procedures result from catastrophes. A good pilot never lets a schedule dictate his actions at the expense of safety.
Absolutely.
I hate to be that person, but I just want to let you know that the pilots were already severely risking their licenses because they were late due to incidents at airports.
No they weren’t it wasn’t their fault. A bomb caused all of this to begin with unfortunately, they wouldn’t have been blamed
@@ThePilot4571 And in the end they lost something incalculably more important
And like that, a man stupidly took the lives of nearly six hundred people within the space of 30 seconds
Could not wait 3-5 minutes.
@@bloodyapril6392 It's also known as get-there-itis which often has fatal circumstances.
+@@muffs55mercury61 Thank You! You are so correct.
That poor lady who was jumped on top of 😢
Horrific.
Complete fog. Hey let's fly this plane down the runway without clearance. What could possibly go wrong?
@@summa1278 the ultimate fate that was against them was KLM pilot not taking any of those things that you listed into consideration. He also held the other planes up by fueling to capacity.. he didn't want to refuel at next stop...his way of "making up for lost time" even his Co pilot desperately questioned what he was doing and got nothing but reprimanded by that pilot... seconds before he realized that "fate was against them"
@@bigtendermoes1016 This is definitely not true. KLM captain wasn't that kind of guy at all! That's what they want you to believe, because it's easier to blame a monster as to blame a nice guy. Yes, he made a wrong decision to take off at that moment. Fuelling during waiting is not a crime. Nobody knew how long they should have to wait. The impatience of the PanAm crew may be making him more nervous/stressful.
@@corja2222 He should have listened to his Co Pilot.
@@bigtendermoes1016 yes, he should. There are a lot of that "should have..." issues in this case.
More like, we're well overtime, our careers are on the line, we have to get of here now.
Poor broken pilot. First you're involved with the worst air disaster in history, then you suffer the demise of your iconic, pioneering airline in 1991.
RIP and respect, Sir.
Weird how many of us return again and again to read, talk and think about this tragedy.
Looking out the window and seeing 300+ tons of certain death bearing down on you at 150 mph is just unfathomable, this man must of quietly suffered tremendously.
God bless them all, what horrible nightmares this captain must have. I'm surprised he was able to continue flying, a better man than I for sure....
Very sad. This didn't have to go down like this. RIP
The sadness started on this pilot 3:50 , his eyes are asking a very useful Question, why was the Captain of the KLM 747 in a hurry causing all this ☹️
It was a useful question 40 years ago. It's very well documented now why he was in such a hurry 🙄
His wife was banging the mailman and he wanted to catch them
@@MAXISORAWIGGLES why
The answer is online. It was the change of rules on the airlines side (pilot was trying to avoid a penalty for long flight hours ), fatigue, confusion..
R.I.P Mr. Bragg. Passed away last year.
Yah he passed away 3 years ago
This pilot died last month at age 79
At least Bob was able to continue flying for 20 years afterward.
hey can you tell what cartoon is that i like that cartoon but i forgot it name
@@izzatsafwan3678 it's happy tree friends
@@mmmmmh2851 oh thx so much for telling
we all will die
my mum has the ticket for this flight she was going to go on the planedge but she was to late thank god
Wow... Thank god
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That's amazing, I'm sure an aviation museum would love to have that piece.
@@the_norty_rider I would say never give a museam a piece of stuff that you DONT have to give how would it feel?
You having a peice of history
Or the meauseam having it
@@the_norty_rider same time you could
"one poor lady jumped to the ground, then everyone jumped on her, breaking her back and legs and arms"
This is the most frightening part of the whole story. I wonder what i would do in that situation. Would i have compassion for that poor woman who lept first? Or would everything that makes me human go out the window in order to ensure my own survival
Its gut wrenching stuff
I’d save myself first in all honesty
I don’t think I would be able to jump on another person.
Probably jump on the ground and hope I survive.
I doubt they landed on her intentionally.
Extremely sad confusing situation on the runway that day. RIP
The KLM pilot must be one of the most disliked people in aviation history.
Only because he survived. Plus the tower and both flights made mistakes
The KLM pilot did not survive. In fact, no one on the KLM flight survived. Only 65 on the Pan Am survived including this Pilot.
Warren B 61 survivors.
Ah you're right.
@@warbon8853 You're right, all 248 on the KLM plane were killed.
He said "I think it would be best to stay off the runway until the KLM is airborne" before the accident.
Three planes took off in front of KLM and Pan Am. A DC-8, a 737, and a 727. According to Pan Am First Officer Bob Bragg, the first plane back-tracked down the entire runway and then did a 180 degree turn. The other two exited at CHARLIE FOUR. Why ATC told Pan Am to exit Charlie Three, a 138 degree turn back towards the terminal, remains a mystery.
La culpa fue del ATC.
True. That confusion made pan am linger on the runway for far too long. If they were given the correct exit, they would’ve been out of the way before klm decided to take off.
may god rest this man s poor soul he went threw a lot be four his death I would have lost my mind to see what he had seen now he can rest and be with the others so long capt.
Larry Dockery Beautifully said. God Bless!
Very nicely said. Now, Capt. Bragg joins Capt. Grubbs (pilot) & flight engineer George Warns again.
God Bless You. Capt. Bragg. Agree with you completely. Kapitan Jacob Van Zanten broke all cockpit procedure. K.L.M. regulations. Could not wait 5 minutes for A.T.C. clearance. 583 dead. R.I.P. Capt. Bragg. A true gentleman.
Estos pilotos de panam jamás aceptaron su culpa de no salir por donde debían, y el ATC tampoco aceptó su incompetencia por haber manejado tan mal la situación y haber dado tan malas instrucciones en un lenguaje ambiguo.
I am so grateful that some people at least lived to tell the story. RIP now Capt Bragg. You were a great pilot and you have earned your wings. I am so sorry for be hat you had to witness on that terrible sad day. 🙏💖🙏
God Bless, our prayers are with him.
May I ask why? He is dead!!!
WHAT do you pray?
I was a young Airman back when this happened. I was involved with the USAF MedEvac misson that picked up burn victims and transported them to BAMC in San Antonio, Tx. I will never forget it.
@@MikeyJMJ they were alive and being transported to hospital
One detail that's worth adding is that immediately after the impact the flight engineer who sits behind the pilots facing right reached up to pull the alarm except there was no alarm there was no roof. The undercarriage of the KLM 747 missed him by about three feet.
He’s the FE and he quite literally described that in the very short video…
this was interesting, thanks for posting it!
he still fucking flew after that. People were just built differently back then I guess
tpstrat14 yes you perhaps are correct. This pilot flew prior to flying commercially. Yes, a different breed of individuals.
It was definitely the KLM's fault.
Seems to me it was miscommunication between KLM and the tower. The tower also told Pan-Am to take a turn that would have required a 4-point turn to make their taxi-way which is unusual for a aircraft of their size to be instructed to do. Been a long time since I reviewed Tenerief, so I might be muddling it up with another tragedy. KLM made a mistake, but I still think the tower is, at minimum, 50% on this one. KLM shares blame for not having that pilot in proper simulators after a long commercial-advertising campaign which featured said KLM pilot.
What do you know? Educate yourself. It was a combination of errors.
He and his Pan Am crew were responsible for not turning off the runway where they should have left. It,s so easy to put all the blame on Van Zanten alone.
@@rf6724 van zanten didnt have takeoff clearance but he still took off causing that accident. it's as simple as that. obviously a chain of unfortunate events happened that made that only possible in the first place, but in the end van zanten caused the accident.
@@rf6724 also they didnt turn at the exit they were supposed to because a 747 would have probably not been able to make that turn. i think you should educate urself. also saying that van zanten is not 100% responsible for this would be the same as defending someone running a red light and causing a crash because the other guy stalled his car on the intersection.
R.I.P. Capt. Bragg. The impatience of that Dutch Pilot to take off in that fog. My God!
Even though captain van Zanten caused the accident he was a star pilot and training captain for KLM. The captain of the PAN AM Victor Grubbs said that just before impact van Zanten lifted his right wing which made the impact higher up the fuselage of the PAN AM saving some 60 lives in the PAN AM including the crew on the flight deck. Its a real shame such a skilled pilot made such a basic mistake.
I feel like “basic mistake” is an understatement but I’m no expert either. The KLM captain though had total disregard for the rest of his flight crew. The over-fueling, disregarding ATC and weather warnings, cockpit warnings…
Can’t imagine the audacity of a captain to take off in low visibility without the clearance of the ATC, overlooking all possibilities of risk involved. Sometimes I wonder if he was too fatigued by the long flight and then the unexpected layover must’ve frustrated him so much that he decided to take off the way he did!
Probably not what happened IMO. The KLM almost certainly thought he had the proper clearance. Confirmation of this is the fact that after the airways clearance was given, and he heard the words "you are cleared." that is when he immediately commenced the take off. Also, though clearly in a rush, he had no other reason to believe the runway was clear. So a deliberate decision to flaunt the protocol would have to be considered a death wish. Or the end of his career when reported.
The first officer said he had no idea why the KLM captain would takeoff without an ATC clearance. I believe it was because the captain felt that the KLM crew would exceed their duty day limitation if they didn't takeoff immediately. Of course that does not excuse his actions, since was well aware l that he did not have a takeoff clearance, and that it was very irresponsible to take off under those circumstances. Ultimately his impatience was the cause of 583 fatalities that awful day. His actions are a cautionary tale for all pilots to be aware of, and especially never duplicate.
Van Zanten was loved and had a strong image.Everything you said is accurate,but the main reason for his takeoff was because he attemped it already,but was stopped by his co pilot,which was also learining and being trained by Van zanten.Van Zanten was embarassed and pissed that he made such a simple mistake,and out of all that,he wanted to prove himself right and took of.The times were different back then in cockpit,if captain says something its that way.The crew did not question his decision then.Rest is history.
A bit of time waiting at the runway is nothing in the grand scheme of the total flight time allowance. When you're talking about all those many hours, you aren't likely going to be counting the mere seconds for any good reason.... although that doesn't mean it didn't make them a bit hasty in that moment, so you might have a point.
Today is his 3rd death anniversary...RIP ( 9.2.2020)
KLM pilot refueled, against the recommendations of his other two crew. Pan Am had to wait for them. Then he's all in a hurry. And he disregards his crew and takes off anyway. There were radio miscommunications. I also believe it a an error for the tower to send the Pan Am on a backtrack right after the KLM. The Pan Am should have stayed right where it was and done the backtrack after the KLM's liftoff.
It was a smaller airport not used to this kind of traffic.
At rotation i'll bet Van Zanten was saying "Dam why did i load the centre tank" Had he not taken on 50 tons of fuel he would have cleared Pan Am.
The FE and FO couldn’t say or do anything with Van Zanten. That guy ruled a cockpit with an iron fist and what he says goes.
God Bless this sweet man,s soul. R.I.P. Capt. Bragg.
+Albatros D-III
How horrifying it must have been to see that huge klm plane coming straight at them.☹😞😥
RIP Victor Grubbs & Robert Bragg
Right he is. Thank God that he is able to put these sincere words to all of us.
The KLM captain was regarded as almost a god with his company and he knew it! Which is why he went ahead and tried to take off before ATC clearance, he thought he knew best, because of his arrogance, he took out almost 600 people, may they all rest in peace
Sadly it’s exactly that. Had a manger do this exact thing. Thought they knew every thing and hung up the phone on one of the general managers just like the pilot in this video but instead she was only fired. These personality types shouldn’t be allowed when working jobs like this. Can’t be hasty
I heard the other pilot died of cancer just a few years later after being trapped in his seat for a time before getting out. Don't know if that's true, but there is some toxic stuff coming out of burning seats and insulation.
Captain Victor Grubbs died in 1995, 18 years after the accident, aged 74.
He took off because if he was delayed any longer a replacement crew would have to be flown out and the customers would have to find hotels for the passengers. Plus he was pretty arrogant. At one point the pan am flight tried to squeeze around the klm that was taking on fuel (this fuel is why no one on the klm lived, can zant took in enough fuel so he could make Amsterdam so he could save time and not be in violation of flying time hours).
Michael Glenn He was not arrogant at all, how many times do I need to convince you guys that the Movie production maket it all up because they wanted the movie to be more dramatic/interesting to watsh............ Read on the internet about all that.... you could call him anything and tell him anything without making him angry, that is at least what his friends and MANNY other KLM pilots have sead in intervievs
Michael Glenn but yeah your right that was a stupid desision about the exesive amount of fuel the KLM was taken on
+Henrik _Official Banzai! the only Dutch divine wind in history. Or Aluju Merkel! The flight recorders disagree with you. If I would have been Co- Pilot I would have punched him in face or broken some cockpit controls.
He was arrogant, it made a bad light for KLM..
So I never flew with KLM
I blame Dutch culture and KLM. No offense Dutch people are incredible frugal if taking a risk saves money they will do it. The cost of a replacement crew, finding hotels for the passengers and the duty flight time are all unnecessary costs that the airline wouldn't accept. The duty time regulation was KLM imposed which I bet was also to save money too. The captain was trained to think this way too and would also take a risk to get back on time.
Rip first officer Robert Bragg
14/9/1937 - 9/2/2017
Flight high hero ❤️
Thank you for Clarity .
Thanks for your service sir, note he was also an airforce pilot before switching to the airlines
Knew that he served not sure what branch, before flying commercially. He had a grand tenure of flight. A true gentleman
Any pilot knows not to take off without clearance. Especially the KLM pilot knew darn well the Pan Am pilot was taxiing behind him.
Impatience kills. If you read the NTSB report, you will see it was KLM's fault.
God rest them.
It was a lot more complicated than that
@@TDB2509 Okay, impatience and ego.
@@mph1ish Both of those things do play a part, impatience more than ego, but that radically oversimplifies it and excludes very key details
A friend in a forum passed me a note on this. That this happened in 1977. I do not remember it. The news inserts show it was a long time ago. I thought 70s video editing looked modern. As 1977 was the year video was becoming a progress in technology.
This interview was filmed in 2016 dumbass
@@louisaugustexvi4515 lmao
@@louisaugustexvi4515 ....he's likely talking about the inserted scenes from the 70's that you literally just watched. How do you miss that? 0:57
I hope I'll see you in heaven Cap. I'm in flying school now. I hope to fly some aircraft soon!!
As an Aviation historian I really feel for this man. R.I.P. Capt Bragg.
That KLM captain was just impatient. Simple as that. They were taxied on that runway for a while and the guy just wanted to fly out and go to the airport he was suppose to land at.
Many speculate that he was in a hurry because of the limited visibility. Again it is speculation but you werent in the cockpit and neither was I. So stop making assumptions about a man who died 40 years ago.
+@@Joe-el2wx He was in a hurry because of STUPID K.L.M. regulations. The only Dutch Kamikaze pilot in history. Could not wait 3-5 minutes. 583 dead.
@@hayabusa-iii9282 ...regulations wouldn't be the pilot's fault.
I don't think this is really anyone's fault. A lack of communication and adrenaline has been the cause of fight, ever.
+@@arizonagreenbee Oh Yes they are. To put an airline pilot in any stress situation is madness. His Co-pilot told him the first time. We don,t have ATC clearance yet. O.K. ask! We,re going responded Van Zanten. The recordings were full of statements regarding overtime, having to have to house the passengers in hotels and having to spend the night there. To top that off he loaded the K.L.M. With 50 tons of jet fuel while not letting the Pan Am 747 go around him to take off. Those extra 50 tons of jet fuel made it impossible for him to leapfrog over the Pan Am after taking off without permission in the fog. F... regulations! My life! My passengers! My Plane! The other plane and it,s passengers! Safety first! Period. F... regulations! How much did it cost K.L.M. for all the death and destruction. 583 dead because of an impatient, arrogant pilot and K.L.M. regulations. My God!
@@hayabusa-iii9282 English isn't my first language. I can't read run on sentences very well, could you reword?
Very very sad . All those poor souls who lost their lives . Rest in peace . God Bless .
2:15 'which was 48 feet from the cockpit floor to the ground". I assume he was hanging from a window that might have sliced of 5 feet which makes it 43 feet. What is the likelyhood that you make it without breaking your legs or limbs?
rynysel I thought the same thing. He said "Thank the Lord I landed on the grass". So I assume he escaped without injury which is remarkable for a 40+ft fall.
It's actually 25 feet. 24 feet, 10 inches on a 747-8.
He was also in his late 70's, I'm sure his memory isn't the best. Although he does recall the events of the accident quite well. Bless this man...
I know, perhaps it gets glossed over but think about it; you've survived the initial crash and only way to escape is too jump off the wing which it like jumping off the 3rd floor of a building..
rynysel and your fucking point is what are u a physics specialist or an ass hole I say asshole you trying to say he lied
Who could thumbs down this video? & why? ....stupid..
It’s so raw to see the KLM remains on news footage.
A friend in a forum passed me a note on this. That this happened in 1977. I do not remember it. The news inserts show it was a long time ago. I thought 70s video editing looked modern. As 1977 was the year video was becoming a progress in technology.
He was in a hurry because of a new rule which had a certain limit of hours to fly the plane. If the KLM pilot flew longer than the certain limit, he could have his license revoked. Also it was his first flight in 3 months.
In my mind, the rigid enforcement of duty regulations is mostly responsible for this accident. had there been a bit of leeway for uncontrollable circumstances, KLM would not have been in such a hurry.
SJ Navaid he wasn't the captain of KLM! Not his fault!
Nevertheless, he MUST wait until clearence for take off!!
+SJ Navaid Fuck Regulations! Passenger safety comes first. Stupid regulations come 2nd. His cabin crew should have punched him in the face. There was also terrorism, heavy fog, poor visibility. 583 dead because of this Dutch kamikaze pilot. He could not wait 5 minutes! The dead on the Pan Am 747 did not care about K.L.M regulations regarding overtime. I hope all the death and destruction he caused was worth K.LM. regulations.
plus he was a self-centered prick!
The closest to hell this man will ever be. My mums aunt Caroline was on this flight, my mum recalls one story she told her in which she could hear people on the plane screaming because melted metal had gone into their eyes and set their faces on fire. It’s something that haunts you.
A lot of the documentaries said that Tenerife airport weren't capable of handling large jets - but this is one of the first footages I've seen which showed the presence of ANOTHER 747 jet there on the day - the Sabena 747. As well as the British Airways L-1011 which, although not as large as the 747, is still a widebody. So Tenerife CAN handle large jets on a regular basis.
At the time, they could handle some, but it taxed the facility. Most all of these big ones were one time diversions from Las Palmas.
Rest in Beautiful Peace, Mr. Blagg. No more nightmares. 🙏🌈
I feel so sorry that the Co pilot died last February 2017
Those who trust in the Lord are safe in ANY condition, as this gentleman shows. Those who died in faith await resurrection.
There was actually one person who didn’t die on the KLM.She went to visit her boyfriend in tenefre
Robina van Lanschot was her name.
KLM Captain was in a hurry because he was minutes from passing the 12 hour threshold beyond which he would have to cancel the flight. He wanted to fly back.
Tenerife airport was only small and was not equipped to handle several jumbo jets at the same time. The planes were only diverted there because of a bomb explosion at their original airport. The klm did request extra fuel and had they not done so they would of had extra lift when taking off. The tenerife airport also had old equipment. Due to the fog no plane should of been allowed to take off. The pan am had clearance to taxi down the runway but the klm did not. It beggars belief the actions of the klm pilot because he was a pilot trainer
I don't even know how they survived, my gosh what a disaster and that too because of one man's haste :( it's good he's no more because no one can live with the regret of killing 583 people.
you are blocking the runway
The reason the klm flight was in such a hurry was that if they didnt get back to Amsterdam in time, they would have went over their allowed flight hours, thus losing there job. R.I.P to all of them in the crash.
You're making some assumptions there. If that 'reason' was as obvious as you're making it seem, it'd be fairly widely known.
Van Zanten wouldn’t have lost his job. He was one of the most highly-regarded pilots at the airline.
Initally The 3 Pilots Survived.But The Captain Died In 1995 And The Flight Enginner Died In 1991.
Apparently the pilots of Pan Am were joking between each other about the impatience of the KLM pilot just minutes before they were hit. There were many factors that led to this disaster but the only one true cause was that man not listening to anyone or anything. It's almost hard to believe this really happened.
this all happens in seconds, he yelled A GET OFF!! GET OFF!!GET OFF!!!..engines Rev up & plane starts turning...747's don't move easy...especially loaded with extra fuel...Thank Cap. Zap
Standing on that left wing: according to survivors, the engines were running full throttle as the plane was in flames. The engines started to disintegrate and internal parts were flung all over the place, decapetating a stewardess. Horrible.
That was perhaps horrific sight, sound, not able to shut down engines since all controls were ripped away, with the upper deck when klm struck them.
After all these years pain still in his eyes 3:54
What year was this interview filmed?
Did the PAN AM captain survive?
Yes he survived the crash. He died in 1995.
Bragg died in 2017 rip
Captain Bragg,true hero.
i love airplane and pilots are my heroes. Salute you sir, Robert Bragg, you never die, just now on you can fly with your own wings ^^
from every tragedy comes something good. Stronger regulations.... KLM as cheerio as they are, are quite strict when going through the cabin. I think a sort of "Never again" strategy was applied from this this crash and onwards. They have been one of the very safest airlines ever since. But every airline has that one cocky idiot that can create a disaster if they are unlucky enough. I flew KLM alot 5 to 10 years ago. Occassionally still. Love their sharp crews as they are now.
Good refreshing perspective
not necessarily stronger regulations; theres nothing _inherently_ beneficial to any measure of simple regulatory strength.
Its simply more adequate regulations.
There's a lot to say, but beyond the accident itself, how did this man survive a ~12 meters fall?
Incredible story of survival. Kapitan Jacob Van Zanten the most experienced. The most blundering fool in history of civil aviation. Could not wait 3-7 minutes because of Stupid K.L.M. regulations. 583 dead. Remember well. Canary Islands. March 27, 1977. Was 10 yrs old.
And Zanten was the TOP captain at KLM. Just a massive lapse of judgment on his part.
it wasn't a lapse of judgment; it was proven the root cause was pure arrogance.
I’m glad miracle still happened.
Rest in peace victor grubbs and robert grabb ❤️ 🙏🏻
this was a tremendous loss of life, and good people, if it was not with the fog, all of those losses could have been prevented
Baraka the best or if Kim had waited for clearance
Robina van lanscott survived from the klm plane she never got back on when she was told
She didn’t survive the crash because she wasn’t on the plane.
Yes there was no need to reboard, then come back the same evening. She lived on the island, read that Robina passed a few years ago in a traffic accident.
This guy should be in jail all pilots that survived shouldmoff all been jailed for life
What, lol.
I remember watching the news when this crash was announced.
True Southern country gentleman. R.I.P. Capt. Bragg. You missed the 40th anniversary by 2 months. What a colossal blunder by the Dutch Pilot. 2-5 minutes to much time to wait.
RIP and respect.! Sir :/
But everyone in the KLM died....
KLM Schipol this guy was in the Pan Am, the one that was taxing, not the one taking off (the KLM).
It wasn't KLM fault.
Not entirely, as there were many factors into why it happened, but the pilot wasn't entirely without faults here.
It's actually pretty accepted that the KLM pilot was indeed at fault for this.
KLM Schipol it was many people's fault but the klm captain took off without clearance so, y'know, you can't really defend him for doing that...
Please explain how more than 55000ltrs or 60tonnes of aviation fuel sets on fire and there are still survivors?
+Hu Arwe Nobody survived the K.L.M. crash. Silly man!
@@hienki-61-d48 Where does 60 tonnes of fuel get stored? Enough fuel to fill over 600 cars.
+@@huarwe1196 Wing tanks! Don,t you know anything about aviation?
@@hienki-61-d48 I jumped from a plane once, my parachute failed to open. As I was plummeting downwards I saw a guy coming up. As we passed I shouted ' do you know anything about parachutes? He screamed 'NO!! Do you know anything about gas cookers? '
your chunk of the plane gets separated from the wings. thats how.