Is “Pokemon Works” GameFreak's Answer to their "Quality" Problem?
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
- “Pokemon Works” is GameFreak's Answer to the “Pokemon Problem”. GameFreak, Nintendo, and the Pokemon Company are going through a restructure before the return of megas in Pokemon Legends Z-A and after the catastrophic backlash to Pokemon Scarlet and Violet, Pokemon Sword and Shield, and Pokemon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl. GameFreak FINALLY Takes their First Step Towards Higher Quality games. How does ILCA inc fit into all this? Find out the pokemon legends z-a release date news
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After this, check out my in-depth Legends Z-A analysis!: ruclips.net/video/SLfsGYz0B_o/видео.html
0:41 GameFreak just loves charizard
If there's one thing we can count on in life, it's that GF will always pander with Charizard 😆
That thumbnail is freaking hilarious
Masuda 👑
Although one note, ILCA does make games themselves. Before bdsp.
LOL thanks! 😆 and as for ILCA they've worked on games before (mainly for U.I) but never made one themselves until BDSP (at least as far as I've found. Maybe you know something I don't)
@@johtojonny You’re right, they co-developed two games before but only started releasing their own games since after BDSP.
found your channel because of your video on Verlisify. I saw someone said something about him a day or 2 ago, and wanted a recap of what has happened since the last time i thought about him 7 years ago, and found your video.
Loved this video too, so I'm going to go check out more of your videos now!
Happy to have you 😎
Where have you gotten the footage of sword and shield map editor at the beginning please?
I'm really intrigued to see where these developments lead, if this is any indication think Pokemon has a very bright future and I'm excited for what's to come! Game Freak DO listen despite what some people like to say, they aren't ignorant to any of the criticisms, they recognize there are issues that need to be sorted and it's clear they are taking that very seriously by increasing development time and creating this new studio with ILCA. It makes me very happy to see! Like, I absolutely loved Scarlet and Violet but it's main issue was the technical performance, this is something more time can address! Had it not been for the technical performance holding it back slightly I think SV could've been the best in the series (though it's definitely up there for me!). That's how I personally feel.
I feel the same about all of that. I'll still have liked PLA more than SV, but SV coulda been so much less complicated of a relationship for me if it had just run normally from the jump. Now it's my 2nd favorite Switch mainline Pokemon game (a mouthful niche category, but still) behind PLA
I can’t imagine thinking that Pal World had no effect on Nintendo/Game Freak/TPCI’s decisions.
Let’s look back at the mid 2010s. Pokemon has to make the jump to the 3DS. Despite excitement for the games, XY were obviously a bit empty and fans had a lot of criticisms about them. ORAS was also a bit rushed and they excluded things like Mega Flygon and the Battle Frontier. What happened around that time? Yo Kai Watch. Level 5 came rushing out of the gates and released a series that was actually competing with Pokemon (at least in Japan). We didn’t get a release in 2015 (presumably a scrapped Pokemon Z equivalent). Instead, they pushed Super Mystery Dungeon, which is a great game in itself and I love it! But that’s developed by Spike Chunsoft. Not Game Freak. The following year, we got Sun and Moon. Arguably the most ambitious games on the 3DS with their respective ultra versions serving as slight improvements. You could tell how much passion went into those games. And how much was riding on them to renew faith in the fans. It also doesn’t hurt that Pokemon Go came out that year.
So yeah, I can totally see another game rivaling Pokemon as a reason for them to wake up and realize it’s time to change things again. Skipped Pokemon Z for Sun/Moon was a great call. And that seems to be what they’re doing now. I think Riddler Khu was hinting at either a Johto or Unova remake set for a 2024 holiday release. But now that project was put on the back burner at the last minute to focus on Gen 10 for 2026 (while Legends ZA is more of an in-between game that was supposed to serve the same midpoint release window for 2024-2025 that Legends Arceus did between 2021-2022.
Thank you! I'm shocked how many people are writing the event off as something TPC won't have paid attention to. Like I said, 25 mil sales doesn't happen by accident!
I hope TPC does take some things from Palworld. For the last few years I’ve felt like I’ve just been “going through the motions” with Pokémon games, and that I’m playing just to add those Pokémon to my living dex. I do the bare minimum because that’s all I feel is required of me.
Whilst they’re not exactly the same, I’ve felt that long lost engagement with Palworld that I used to have with Pokémon many, many years ago. I’ve played over 250 hours on Palworld, whereas I barely scratch 50 in Pokémon games now.
I’m not a huge gamer. I’ve loved Pokémon since Red and Blue came to the UK, but I do miss the thrill of feeling I’d actually earned something in Pokémon games.
I agree! Did you play Pokemon Legends: Arceus? It was the freshest thing for the series since like, gen 3 lol
@@johtojonny I did! I was so excited to play PLA. Excited and nervous because I’m not used to playing anything but RPGs.
I actually thought that I might struggle with a new format but that made me want to play it more because I might be able to get that thrill once again- and I did, but only when I fought Giratina and Volo.
It was at that point that I realised that I had just been going through the motions in past games. I had thought that I was just outgrowing the franchise and clinging to sentimentality whilst accepting that that was the standard of games TPC were putting out.
The Volo battle made me realise that the games could be so much more. Harder, giving that feeling of earned success, mixed with amazing music, theatrics, and surprises.
I will always try to give the games a chance, because of the sentimentality I hold to TPC, but it feels like a relationship where I keep on getting let down and I begin to question my self worth.
I say there's a strong possibility that PLZA could be 1 of their better Pkmn game, (maybe even 1 of the best) mark my words! 1. It's another Legends game which was highly acclaimed for its shakeup to the usual formula, we can only go up from here 2. Being well into the Switch's lifespan, they must've gotten more accustomed to the console's hardware. PLA & SV, like them or not, showed some signs of improvement (I know the glitches & lag are no red herrings). The leaps to a new system are usually rocky. R/S, D&P, X&Y & LG/PE. But we've always seen that games get better as we get further into a system's lifetime. Emerald, HG/SS, BW2 & PLA are some of the most beloved games in the franchise & they came AFTER the new generational games. The reason for a really rough journey on the 3DS & Switch particularly could be cuz Gamefreak used to only be accommodated to 2D pixel games. That was their specialty, they aren't nearly as suited for developing 3D games as the 2D ones.
& from what we know, there're other factors to consider that also could improve the game: taking place in a single city, the return of Megas & a gap year.
I agree on all points!
NO MORE DEX CUT IN ALL THE FUTURE POKEMON GAMES!
Really? This is still an issue for some people?
It’s the TPC. They’re just not gonna do it so they can keep pokemon home around. They’ll never do it. Funny how some small fan on twitter can add all the missing pokemon yet GF the poor small company they are cant add more than half when they release a game. Truly they need to double their gaming development cycle to make time for it but that would never happen
@@eclipses3131but the tpc can't get away as well after the fans still hate them more as they refuse to love them more in the future!
I am loving your voice 😩 it got more deeper
Thank you! 😁 I guess the years are treating me well then if you're saying this hahaha
A new legends game and bayonetta 4 hell I would scream
Plss
You and I literally have the same mind
@@johtojonny you can say that again 😎 In bayonetta I hope to see the faeries actually appear in the game and bayonetta has to take them down also I want the angels to return and I hope violas madama will he half infernal and half faerie would be really cool to see faerie climax
Making higher quality games means to spend tons of time on it god damn it!!! GTA 6 was revealed with gameplay while PLZ-A is revealed with nothing to show. It’s not even close to show off gameplay and it’s coming out next year!! No it’s not because of the next Nintendo console. The game has been confirmed by Nintendo to come out for the switch.
Adding another game company is gonna just make it seem like they’re not listening to take off years to perfect their damn games. You’d as the biggest franchise in the world they’d have 4 other studios working on games so they can all even out the field. One company isnt enough when SV and PLA level quality is the current standard.
I can see this is a very heated topic for you. I do agree with your sentiments... even if not your points
@@johtojonny I mean everyone is super aware of it. It’s lowkey very embarrassing to see the biggest franchise fumble with every new game they release. They make so much money yet the product doesn’t reflect that. How does palworld look way better than SV PLA? Even though it’s made by indie developers compared to the TPC? This is still ilca we’re talking about. I really dont want gen 5 remakes. They’d disappoint me since we need BW and BW2. If anything they should make gen 6 remakes to pair up with PLZ-A. It just makes the most sense. Especially if you consider the fact how TPC may not want to make XY remakes since they got the long lost Pokemon Z already. And it would seem like they’re putting too much into gen 6
Also ILCA has made other games before. One piece odyssey… was there no research put into this video. Misinformation
@@eclipses3131not before, they made it after.
To compare GTA 6 that is like, decades long in the works with Pokémon is a really, really exaggerated comparison. If they are creating a new company to develop games, that is because they are trying to change something. You are acting as if Pokémon Works will bring a significant change immediatly. It won't. Thing will change, but not EXACTLY now. Also, Sun and Moon were revealed as just a teaser, so I don't understand your point.
@@eclipses3131 again I agree with your sentiments. One Piece Odyssey was made after BDSP tho. I can assure you I put more research into my videos than most
Low effort sales
there is some who want the National Dex back, will they ever give up
That's wild when we're getting more ambitious games. I do agree with them about SwSh not reconciling their removal of the full dex but PLA and SV def make sense
@@johtojonny but some people can be stubborn
Why is that a problem? USUM had the entire national pokedex and even had walking animation for all of them. I saw the video and it looks so identical to walking animations we got in SV. There’s truly no excuse. This the biggest franchise in world. You’d think they’d be making games on the caliber or scale GTA or baldur’s gate. True hard work and dedication but settling for less than the bare minimum is fine too I guess
Why not mention ILCA's other credits such as Dragon Quest 11 and One Piece Odyssey. Seems relevant here. Those games look amazing compared to Game Freak's games.
@@mandatorial they didn't develop dq11, that's why. They really only helped with u.i in all of their game up til BDSP
One Piece Odyssey WAS developed by ILCA, yes, but that came out well after BDSP. I suppose in my segment on how I think ILCA has more to offer in the future I could've mentioned that, but I honestly forgot they had taken that project on at that point
I would be very cautios to put too much faith into Pokémon Works, it could be a mere formality. There is a lot of misinformation about ILCA because people don't do basic research.
First, BSDP wasn't ILCAs first game. They worked as a support studio on several prestigious games such as the Nier series, Dragon Quest XI, they are a good studio. Being a support studio is not necessarily different than being the main studio from a technical development standpoint.
BDSP was bad because it was GF / TPC who decided to make the game that way, low budget, probably very tight dev time. It wasn't because the people at ILCA are bad. Look at One Piece Odyssey, that game was probably already being developed simultaneously to BDSP.
That said, if GF / TPC philosophies of making cheap cash-graby games doesn't change, if Pokémon Works doesn't get significantly more staff, higher budget, more time, than the formation of this studio could be a mere formality, of the BDSP dev team just now being officially a Pokémon team instead of contractors. Practically, this could possibly change very little. Again, it's Game Freak and TPC who need to change.
Utsunomiya said they want to keep the same cadence, but they are talking about how to """"keep introducing """""quality""""" products". There is a lot of ways to interpret this, but the only way they will put more money and give more time to devs, is if the games *make* significantly more money. But how do they want to sell more than 25 mio copies? Porting to PC? Mobile? Or micro-transactions?
Long story short, I would wait before putting too much faith into Pokémon Works.
Hmm lots to discuss here
- Even if it's a formality it's huge to know that their partnership will go beyond just BDSP. We all thought it might be a 1 and done partnership
- ILCA had only worked in U.I if memory serves. So not only did they never craft a full game themselves, but they had narrow experience. An odd choice to hire them for a game (and obviously done on purpose to make gamefreak look ok) no matter how you cut it
- I mentioned several of your points in this video, including Masuda being responsible for BDSP's established ground rules
- I've also touched on several more of your points in previous videos. I suppose, to me, it would feel weird to repeat the same things in several videos, but I guess it HAS been a while since I mentioned them so perhaps I should've recapped those points in this video too. My b
Thanks for the comment btw! I def think that it's a promising development, but I see where your doubts come from
@@johtojonny
If you look at ILCAs Website, they worked on various graphical tasks, like cinematics, not UI. I understand that this isn't easy to understand for someone who isn't a developer, but that doesn't mean they don't have the know-how to make a good own game from a technical perspective. If you can make good looking cutscenes, you probably also can do good in-game graphics. One Piece Odyssey and Sandland prove that. BDSP's graphics were bad because the game budget was low, not because ILCA was bad.
Hiring a smaller studio that worked as a support studio for prestigious projects is a very logical choice for a low budget Pokémon remake. No big company would want to do that, they want to make their own projects. They were not going to get not Capcom, Square or whatever. That's what these IP holders always do, like they hired Cyberconnect2, a small studio that did the niche Hack. series, even though Naruto was a huge IP, no big studio would want do make an IP-tie-in.
I always assumed that they would keep working with third parties for some projects, that's logical, why should they stop? So just making something official that was already a thing before, on itself doesn't change much.
BDSP isn't bad at all, it's actually a pretty solid game/remake. Could it have had more Platinum content? Sure but I think as a faithful remake it does exactly what it set out to do, it's a charming fun little remake of a 2006 classic. And keep in mind we also got Legends Arceus which is the more ambitious title so we got both really, a smaller faithful remake and a bigger more ambitious reimagining.
@@lucashen9686 definitely. Like I said they don't wanna make themselves look bad
@@friendlyotaku9525 agreed. I'm not a fan of bdsp for many reasons but the game was crafted well for what it was. There was only one glitch that truly bothered me and it was snake-bodied follow pokemon not moving to follow you hahaha
Ilca did make video games
*worked on video games. They did not make their own until after BDSP
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While I respect this video and you usually have great takes, I really disagree (hell straight up dislike) yours on Palworld. That game isn't even the same genre as Pokemon monster catching aside and fills different niche. The only reason people keep comparing the two is because Palworld can't be bother to be more original with their designs with some blatantly copying Pokemon. Not even mentioning that Pokemon's biggest money maker are the merch.Palworld isn't scaring Pokemon since they have no reason to do so
Scaring them isn't the term I'd use. More like exciting them. As I said, TPC sees that money on the table that went to Palworld. That means that's 25 mil sales they can take for themselves if they even sprinkle one quality Pokemon game in with a bunch of bad ones (similar to what they did with PLA, but this time they'll likely push it further and harder).
It's simply the nature of competition and the "hold my beer" meme
I also wanna point out the Legends series is the closest thing Pokemon has to it so far, and Z-A already looks to be expanding the concepts of PLA further. I think Palworld will only push them to want to make it even better than already planned. It's nothing but a plus side for us as fans
@@johtojonny ah I see, now THAT is what I'd agree with personally. Keep up the good content 🔥🔥🔥
@@naganut9718 thanks 😁😎 I'll keep it up! I appreciate the support
While I really, really dislike Palworld, I do see it as an opportunity for Pokémon as Palworld can finally be a competitor to Pokémon. Like, you could see the effects that Yo Kai Watch had on Pokémon at the time. Sun and Moon were clearly a response to Yo Kai Watch.
I’m cautiously optimistic for this ongoing development for Pokémon! I feel a lot of different things involving this string of events like happy, hopeful and anxious and I don’t have much to say other than we will need to wait for next year to see what happens. Have a nice weekend bro! Also I left a thread back on your other video for theory sharing and other stuff!! Plus I did just one on there not so long ago too so it might be worth a read! 💚
Also what are you hoping for the next Nintendo Direct? It’s already that time already! Umm personally I want something for Zelda like A Link to The Past remake alongside something from Level-5 like if Ghostcraft is Yokai Watch 5 or is a hard reset of the series. The unlikely wish would be anything from Platinum Games but I can dream. Hell I don’t know how to feel about Hideki Kamiya leaving other than he said Bayonetta 4 should still happen. Ok thanks again! 🩷
Yeah every piece of news we keep getting for GF seems promising! I think we can only go up from here tbh
Yeah PlatinumGames might not have anything in the pipeline for a while 😅 sadly. You know I wish they did!
Thanks for sharing your theories! I always love your comments and I love when I get to see them and respond! 💙
@@johtojonny You’re welcome!!