I hope so. it is tough to think about strength....But that frame was designed for the weight like you put in my mind. and putting something below it would not be necessary. Adding metal to the top will help though to make it better. I am going to put the axle flip kits on there and take a look at the results before I continue with the build. Ordered them right now.
Vw buses are pretty light. I actually want something similiar. I got a camaro and a ranchero and thats a bit heavier. I live under oroville dam in yuba city the thought of flood makes me want drive them out. Have fun, just my two cents make it for you bucket truck only or any othe single bus. Shorten it, just my opinion haul one at time.
Nice,something different,looks kinda light weight for your purposes to me.needs to be beefed up quite a bit.my opinion.just do a lot of homework on your building for your needs.be safe.just keep doing your thing 😎😎😎👍👍👍
Yea that is what I am thinking lots of homework before I just start welding. cutting and prep can start but welding and buying metal I really need to think this through.
You mentioned the center of gravity issue and that is a legit concern. It seems like it might be worth considering wider axels and not having to build up so much.
I 'think' I have a better understanding of the dilemma ... The physics associated with such a long trailer, is such that loading with maximum of two buses and the risks of fish tailing increases ,,.. Loading the buses forward ,onto the towbar, so as to alleviate the risk, means ? ...Just how much weight and the specification of the towbar has to be considered ... Braking with an SUV ? Resurrecting an old tow truck, with hydraulic platform with provision for the second vehicle to be towed, may be more expensive solution, but more practical/safer and have resale value Kind regards Alex
My main question has to do with return on time invested. Your expertise is in VW’s. Would it be cheaper to spend the time this would take (including learning curve on car carrier building) yield more money if used in VW-related work and flipping? Then you take that money and buy a used carrier. I don’t know the answer. Just asking… Thanks for the great content BTW!
And the tire width is about the same as the frame on your trailer, I think what ever you build on it has to be able to flex or the frame will break from your ramps ? The higher you make the trailer the longer your ramps will need to be and you don't want it to be top heavy.
Not even close to what you need. Its a vintage 50's camper frame. I got one. I got rid of the old box and made it into a boat trailer- a 20' aluminum skiff- not a 7500lb truck. It'll bend in half. Car haulers are purpose built for a reason, by structural engineers who understand materials, weight capabilities, design, etc. Youd be adding a crapload of steel to something which wasnt designed to serve that purpose. Plus, you live in Kalifornicate, and licensing that Frankenstein will be a nightmare just to make it legal to be on the road. Scary, dude. -But, hey, wtf do i know?
will be legal. total weight carried will not exceed 7500lbs. ever. truck is not as heavy as it looks. It is heavy but not more than a Toyota crown or small SUV.
like a lowboy in heavy equipment lowboy load from the front end of yout trailer low the front into the ground build to load in from end --off the truck hitch for loading and unloading
yea one of those lowboy Tractor trailers would be cool. Like you said load from the front. we shall see once I flip the axles. how high it is and what to do next.
yea looked at it....his trailer had much bigger axles. would be nice if this one had those axles. he had the 5200lb axles. 6 lug. Then I could use heavier steel. But I think I can make it work. Once I flip the axles then I will know what I need.
weld flat stock 1/4 thinkplate 15 feet long or longer on out side rail with cut slots into out side edg 5 inch deep for chain to fit. in slide in the lock chaine down to trailer //to hold use 1 size china to hold your slots in trailer try down cut round hole on inside of deack to rap chian up over after inside slot holding the car on trailer so it act safe chain lilink -- a lock in raping under and over all chain link must be the same sizeto fit slts in steel plate ,, and you can add chain binders if you like . you can use chainesame size in links--to fit , in all slots-go to straps ,- to belts straps // on under budy parts to hold it save money by usinf cut slots to fit chaine links size //man I need a drink
great info....I am thinking on the rail with the 1/4 inch strap too. and some c channel sections to mount it to. Once I get the axles raised I will have a better idea of what to do.
Sounds like a super fun project. You'll nail it.
I hope so. it is tough to think about strength....But that frame was designed for the weight like you put in my mind. and putting something below it would not be necessary. Adding metal to the top will help though to make it better. I am going to put the axle flip kits on there and take a look at the results before I continue with the build. Ordered them right now.
Vw buses are pretty light. I actually want something similiar. I got a camaro and a ranchero and thats a bit heavier. I live under oroville dam in yuba city the thought of flood makes me want drive them out. Have fun, just my two cents make it for you bucket truck only or any othe single bus. Shorten it, just my opinion haul one at time.
Nice,something different,looks kinda light weight for your purposes to me.needs to be beefed up quite a bit.my opinion.just do a lot of homework on your building for your needs.be safe.just keep doing your thing 😎😎😎👍👍👍
Yea that is what I am thinking lots of homework before I just start welding. cutting and prep can start but welding and buying metal I really need to think this through.
Great new project.
Here’s a crazy thought: what about using hydraulics ? Kinda like low riders, you raise it up over the tires and lower it for running down the road.
the lift frame is right over the tires. when you lower it. it will be sitting on the tires.
Can't wait to see car hauler build coming up soon
You mentioned the center of gravity issue and that is a legit concern. It seems like it might be worth considering wider axels and not having to build up so much.
I 'think' I have a better understanding of the dilemma ... The physics associated with such a long trailer, is such that loading with maximum of two buses and the risks of fish tailing increases ,,.. Loading the buses forward ,onto the towbar, so as to alleviate the risk, means ? ...Just how much weight and the specification of the towbar has to be considered ... Braking with an SUV ? Resurrecting an old tow truck, with hydraulic platform with provision for the second vehicle to be towed, may be more expensive solution, but more practical/safer and have resale value Kind regards Alex
My main question has to do with return on time invested. Your expertise is in VW’s. Would it be cheaper to spend the time this would take (including learning curve on car carrier building) yield more money if used in VW-related work and flipping? Then you take that money and buy a used carrier. I don’t know the answer. Just asking…
Thanks for the great content BTW!
vw flipping is not profitable unless I just dont do any work or buy parts. building cars is a loss. or break even.
You could make it a tilt trailer. That would cure your dove tail issue
yea thought about that too. really heavy frame. would need heavy duty axles. with short tires. $$$$$$
And the tire width is about the same as the frame on your trailer, I think what ever you build on it has to be able to flex or the frame will break from your ramps ? The higher you make the trailer the longer your ramps will need to be and you don't want it to be top heavy.
yea I am thinking 3 to 6 inch fenders. and a long dovetail. or beaver tail. 5 feet. and ramps that are pretty long too. with lots of support on them.
Shorter wheels and tires. Shorter deckover. Put a winch on it and make the trailer tilt.
Not even close to what you need. Its a vintage 50's camper frame. I got one. I got rid of the old box and made it into a boat trailer- a 20' aluminum skiff- not a 7500lb truck. It'll bend in half. Car haulers are purpose built for a reason, by structural engineers who understand materials, weight capabilities, design, etc. Youd be adding a crapload of steel to something which wasnt designed to serve that purpose. Plus, you live in Kalifornicate, and licensing that Frankenstein will be a nightmare just to make it legal to be on the road. Scary, dude. -But, hey, wtf do i know?
truck weighs 4000lbs.
will be legal. total weight carried will not exceed 7500lbs. ever. truck is not as heavy as it looks. It is heavy but not more than a Toyota crown or small SUV.
How hard would it be to take the out-riggers off when hauling the bucket truck ?
impossible.
could you possibly put the orange truck on the trailer in 2 pieces? in other words separate the lift from the truck and put them both on the trailer
no not possible.
like a lowboy in heavy equipment lowboy load from the front end of yout trailer low the front into the ground build to load in from end --off the truck hitch for loading and unloading
yea one of those lowboy Tractor trailers would be cool. Like you said load from the front. we shall see once I flip the axles. how high it is and what to do next.
That’s not a trailer. It’s a runway. What’s that gonna be an aircraft carrier?😮
yea it is huge. could also do another floater axle.
then jack up front end// and hook up to your truck , after loading
DOT is 104"... I'd widen the axles~
yea I could go with an 8ft 6 wide axle But they are super expensive.
@@Mikefngarage ...just need a coupla pipe sleeves... -------=====-------
I would make the end of the trailer where the 2 nd to last cross bar is , most of the weight will be in the middle to front of trailer ?? 🤔
Im going to jack up the axles and see what is there.
@@Mikefngarage best of luck. Can’t wait to see what you do at the end !!!
Easiest / Hardest Fix...
R&R tires, each trip~
OOooooooOOOooooo
Drive on, no tires
Tie down to trailer
Extend outriggers
Install tires...
Tires are cheap compared to flats they suck on a trailer.
@@Mikefngarage you followin'? No Tires, no problem... + Low Deck Height!!!
...just for the truck~
@@Texas-t-shirts flatten them too. that works. for lower height. all I might need is 2 inches. Should be fine. a lot to think about on this.
@@Mikefngarage ooooOOOOOOOooooo
U.going.to.pull..your.truck
Hows.carcraft..doing.?
still open. and doing some service. no new building for the shop yet.
Ok...@@Mikefngarage
check out This N That Garage he just did one similar kind of
yea looked at it....his trailer had much bigger axles. would be nice if this one had those axles. he had the 5200lb axles. 6 lug. Then I could use heavier steel. But I think I can make it work. Once I flip the axles then I will know what I need.
@@Mikefngarage i'm sure you will figure out a solution
Don't do it. Disaster in the making.
weld flat stock 1/4 thinkplate 15 feet long or longer on out side rail with cut slots into out side edg 5 inch deep for chain to fit. in slide in the lock chaine down to trailer //to hold use 1 size china to hold your slots in trailer try down cut round hole on inside of deack to rap chian up over after inside slot holding the car on trailer so it act safe chain lilink -- a lock in raping under and over all chain link must be the same sizeto fit slts in steel plate ,, and you can add chain binders if you like . you can use chainesame size in links--to fit , in all slots-go to straps ,- to belts straps // on under budy parts to hold it save money by usinf cut slots to fit chaine links size //man I need a drink
great info....I am thinking on the rail with the 1/4 inch strap too. and some c channel sections to mount it to. Once I get the axles raised I will have a better idea of what to do.
Like. Your.61.beetle.better
Mike...trump.2024.
Man..