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The Maas that went carrier hunting and suicide torped got more EXP than the Akatsuki who played well. You see the problem with DD play in WOWS?Being a good teammate just doesn't pay off most of the time. WG really need to give base EXP for teammates doing damage from your smoke.
as a dd main I agree, working for win always reduces my damage stats and credit income, in a dd your detonation chances are higher, risk of carrier terror on you higher, your module losses like torpedo or turret more decisive on ur game vs other classes. And dds are most vulnerable against MM, today I had a double carrier game on Tier 8 had 0 fighter support on my cossack and all I did was 47k damage and cursing the selfish carrier player on my team.
I would love to see achievements specifically for DDs, ones that reward DDs that don't mindlessly suicide, such as get 100k spotting damage, and capture 3 caps (solo or assist), and give large rewards.
@@omerbkcgl thats all carriers are nowadays,, ruin the dds game.. I have plenty of games where im put out of the game by the cv,, and he ends up at the bottom of hes team.. 1 idiot carrier can ruin a good players game
Had a lovely game in my Fiji on this map, a few days ago. I just planted at d1, and some random dd just kept me company, smoked when I ran out, spotted, and torped and just dipped into the smoke when threatened. We cleaned up the red teams main push. Couple of gneisnaus and some Russian bb plus ca's and dd's. I only had to move to dodge torps, most of which were spotted by the dd. It was a pleasure Mr random dd guy.
How do you have such opponents? If I would have tried this in my Baltimore, I would have been facing a wall of torpedos and focused fire from every ship on this end of the map. Well played, Sir
@Flamu The greatest weakness of WoWS as a game is the near complete lack of teamwork during battles. It is highlighted very well by you during your battle in this vid. You are VERY surprised that your DD actively HELPED you and your team and also could look after him/herself during the battle which going by your exclamation is rare. WG/WoWs are doing a good job of introducing new ships to the game even if a lot of them are OP fantasy ships like the Russian ships (no bias there of course) but they are doing absolutely nothing to incentivize teamwork at all. It's all about being selfish; getting kills, xp, credits for you to get the next ship etc. Also, the all-against-all mode (ie; all nationas ships in the same side) is exactly like the random battle from War Thunder. War Thunder also has realistic and simulated as battle modes as well. The random battle is to intoduce people to the game but Realistic Battle is really where it's at. During battles the thing players complain about the most is the bad and/or non-existent teamork. Yes, a few times it will be people moaning about nothing really but most of the time IT IS becuase there is no teamwork. This lack of teamwork does make the gameplay worse and low-quality overall which is a shame becuase it could be so much better. If WoWs did do a lot to incentivie teamwork and had a battle mode that was at least 'Axis-v-Allies' or whatever (instead of all against all) in addition to random battle it would be a much better game.
You're totally right, and teamplay does not exist because the vast majority of nowadays players don't know the game's mechanics. WG won't change it because they (rightly) make money out of this situation. One has to blame it on the players, not on WG.
Not to take anything away from the Akatsuki (he played very well), but it helped that the CV didn't bother your flank all that much and died halfway through the match.
If the Helena ever get an extra Killometer on ist Range, then you could do Open water kiting.Just like Flamu showed with a double-rudder Mogami. It works with cleveland too or with myoko. But the Helena has to get too close to the Enemy in order to shoot. So she does not have the Time to dodge.
I used to smoke anyone who needed it in every match, even if I was in a British CL or another ship with 'Selfish smoke'. I stopped most of the time for the simple reason that people would ignore it and just sail right through, meaning I'd lost a precious smoke for nothing. 9 times out of 10 it was wasted and that 1 time out of 10 would be a BB which then died anyway by firing its main guns while low in my smoke.
I have had a few good games in the Helena lately. Some good team play, as well. I think I like it better than the Chapayev. Maybe because I do not feel obligated to get closer to support the dds with radar. And the Helena is a support ship, in her own right. The AA is not bad AND you get hydro. A critique\analysis would be welcome.
That smoke is more than for farming, hadnt he smoke up your CV wouldve been dead and the pacing of his attack was good as well, 11/10 wouldve bombed him with compliment, really smart play
Thanks for highlighting what was my favorite light cruiser in that tree. Got to tell you though, in regards the Helena (the city), the second e is flat. It's not Helayna (though that's proper Greek, the origin of the name), just Hell-en-ah. Montana is not a sophisticated place and it shows in the pronunciation of locales by the folks from there.
Man, I wanna be that good teammate but I play IJN Gunboat DDs that are less maneuverable than certain battleships. I get blapped a lot because I have a tendency to get too close to the enemies
Oh dear i know that tune,,, damn i believe thats rainbow six 3 raven shield, the thing i played to death some 15-16 years ago, a high quality game that they stopped making after like 2008 or so??
MY MOYKO I DONT HARDLY EVER USE TORPS OR GRAF SPEE MY TRENTON IS GOOD THOUGH PERFECT POSITION WITH THE TORPS . IM MOSTLY A BB GUY BUT DO LOVE COMPETENT PLAYERS ON MY TEAM LIKE YOU HAD WITH THE DD GOES A LONG WAY IN FIGHTING NICE VID. ON HELENAS ABBILTYS WITH A GOOD CAPT.
@@Chironex_Fleckeri yeah i allmost bled out an it tickeled my brain a bit had to relearn how to walk an everything but typing words right jus dont go hand in hand an im 50 not 80 lol
@@Chironex_Fleckeri I WAS PLAYING BEFORE ALL THAT MY OLD ACCOUNT IS CRAZYHORSE D-M and thank you now im jus tryen to walk like im not drunk my equal lib. is off lol
Is this some kind of challenge; 2:04 To try to play the game while at the same time listening to the most annoying music in the world? I don't care how much money they donate, no one should be forced to listen to that at any price.
He stole ur kill? That Akatsuki did most of the work against the Sinop.... Id always think of known streamers to be less selfcentered and more objective. Apparently thats me being naive.
Well if you make video about having 1 out of 11 other dudes actually doing what he is supposed to then yeah that game is "Thinking man action game" or whatever this Ad was.
@@DavidSmith-te9gg How the hell is it "constructive"? It literally reads like a whiny kid. "Hey streamer! Turn off the notifications from those people actually supporting you and asking just to be acknowledged so my free content doesn't get interrupted!"
when a follower connects, the animations that hide a quater of screen are painful and frankly awful . We need to see the battle, not these stupid animations
One of the reasons I stopped running the Helena is because it only excels vs lower tier scrubs on island heavy maps like this trash video. Vs tier 8 or any competent cruiser player you are dead. The shells are inconsistent fire starters vs heavier armor as well. Glad you had fun vs those t5s though.
How many interruptions can you get in one game...10.....20. At 8 min. Is was about 10-14 times...really annoying, despite it is your truly followers at YT. I am out. Sorry.
Flamu all respect 4 you but do something with those adds donation..i.m watching you from the phone and those pop add donations and other stuff are taking lots off space from the actual fight..and that Japanese music ..OMG ..it.s annoying as f..ck..
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Would you add some flamenco to your playlist? :D
Fandango de huelva are very groovy, you should try to listen to some!
Would bei great If there we're no music at all.
The Maas that went carrier hunting and suicide torped got more EXP than the Akatsuki who played well. You see the problem with DD play in WOWS?Being a good teammate just doesn't pay off most of the time. WG really need to give base EXP for teammates doing damage from your smoke.
as a dd main I agree, working for win always reduces my damage stats and credit income, in a dd your detonation chances are higher, risk of carrier terror on you higher, your module losses like torpedo or turret more decisive on ur game vs other classes. And dds are most vulnerable against MM, today I had a double carrier game on Tier 8 had 0 fighter support on my cossack and all I did was 47k damage and cursing the selfish carrier player on my team.
Damn, that's a great idea. I'd be down for that change.
I would love to see achievements specifically for DDs, ones that reward DDs that don't mindlessly suicide, such as get 100k spotting damage, and capture 3 caps (solo or assist), and give large rewards.
Well the Akatsuki tried to steal 3 kills and even got to steal one, almost took that kraken from flamu, so.. well deserved, but in general I agree
@@omerbkcgl thats all carriers are nowadays,, ruin the dds game.. I have plenty of games where im put out of the game by the cv,, and he ends up at the bottom of hes team.. 1 idiot carrier can ruin a good players game
Excuse me, competent teammates don't exist.
It was... coincidental coordination.
Flamu was relieved, as for a brief moment, playing wows went from a 1v23 to a 2v22. Deep inside he still suffered for he knew it wouldn’t last.
8:50 to be fair that akatsuki kinda deserved the kill after hitting that BB so hard with torps
Yeah I also thought "stole my kill" was an odd thing to say here
Yoinked my kill, 3-4 torp hits :D
Thats cuz even well known streamers behave the same as most people ingame.
2:35 "Where do you want those shots to hit, Sir?" "Yes."
For one game with a competent teammate, you have to play a thousand with potatoes.
Amen
RUclips: How many times do you want to get copyright striked?
Flamu: Yes
Man that Rainbow Six theme was soooo good, good stuff on TDT plus actual helpful DD teammate, blessed battle.
Matt Mac oh man it hits the nostalgic feels grew up with rainbow six
That was my dono lol one of the best soundtracks of all time IMO
Had a lovely game in my Fiji on this map, a few days ago. I just planted at d1, and some random dd just kept me company, smoked when I ran out, spotted, and torped and just dipped into the smoke when threatened. We cleaned up the red teams main push. Couple of gneisnaus and some Russian bb plus ca's and dd's. I only had to move to dodge torps, most of which were spotted by the dd. It was a pleasure Mr random dd guy.
When Flamu makes a video about you, the ultimate flamuPAT
I recently got this ship too, except for the range, this ship is literally god tier.
How about a Moskva commentary?
anyone know what is being sung in the backround @2:04 i feel like i´ve heard that before but a different version
8:49 No he didn't yoink your kill. You were the one who tried to sneak a steal there.
LOL the eva song XD
looks like competent teammates are easier to find than good playlists at least
Akatsuki being positive, prob get 130k spot dmg, reward poorly. I guess everyone can see that stupidity.
Can I download competent teammate mod from aslains?
For 5000k 50% competent teammate 😂
One of my favorite cruisers
awesome video
How do you have such opponents? If I would have tried this in my Baltimore, I would have been facing a wall of torpedos and focused fire from every ship on this end of the map. Well played, Sir
You simple described my DD playstyle
Should I go ifhe or fire chance with USN light cruisers?
Go for none. But get the extra health, extra consumables, and concealment expert. IFHE increases ur detectablity which is BS imho
How iwll the changes to IFHE affect the Helena dpm?
@Flamu
The greatest weakness of WoWS as a game is the near complete lack of teamwork during battles.
It is highlighted very well by you during your battle in this vid.
You are VERY surprised that your DD actively HELPED you and your team and also could look after him/herself during the battle which going by your exclamation is rare.
WG/WoWs are doing a good job of introducing new ships to the game even if a lot of them are OP fantasy ships like the Russian ships (no bias there of course) but they are doing absolutely nothing to incentivize teamwork at all.
It's all about being selfish; getting kills, xp, credits for you to get the next ship etc.
Also, the all-against-all mode (ie; all nationas ships in the same side) is exactly like the random battle from War Thunder.
War Thunder also has realistic and simulated as battle modes as well. The random battle is to intoduce people to the game but Realistic Battle is really where it's at.
During battles the thing players complain about the most is the bad and/or non-existent teamork.
Yes, a few times it will be people moaning about nothing really but most of the time IT IS becuase there is no teamwork.
This lack of teamwork does make the gameplay worse and low-quality overall which is a shame becuase it could be so much better.
If WoWs did do a lot to incentivie teamwork and had a battle mode that was at least 'Axis-v-Allies' or whatever (instead of all against all) in addition to random battle it would be a much better game.
You're totally right, and teamplay does not exist because the vast majority of nowadays players don't know the game's mechanics.
WG won't change it because they (rightly) make money out of this situation.
One has to blame it on the players, not on WG.
What is the song name at 8:30
Since I saw Helena's playstyle, is it similar to her predecessor - Dallas? Because I recently got her and not knowledgable about light cruisers
Dallas is a complete useless piece of sht. Penscola is a better t6 if u want to take it into ranked or random
Not to take anything away from the Akatsuki (he played very well), but it helped that the CV didn't bother your flank all that much and died halfway through the match.
Looked like he was using wide spread torps too
@@oppaiomanko There are situations where wide spreads are appropriate - wouldn't cite that as a mark against him.
anyone got a link to that cruel angel thesis version?
My favorite T7 mainline gets some long deserved love.
This ship was named after my hometown
Was sunk in the Pacific in WW2
A mark of pride for my community
Love my Helena too, I think the camo is one of the best if not the best in the game👍
How do you play the Helena when you dont have good cover or islands around?
You dont. You straight up do Seppuku.
If the Helena ever get an extra Killometer on ist Range, then you could do Open water kiting.Just like Flamu showed with a double-rudder Mogami.
It works with cleveland too or with myoko.
But the Helena has to get too close to the Enemy in order to shoot. So she does not have the Time to dodge.
Helena is a fine ship, with the right support.
ALOT OF CRUSIERS HAVE THE TORPS IN TERIBEL PLACES WHERE U HAVE TO JUS ABOUT TO TURN FULL TO STERN
K
wat.
You type like a mostly deaf 80 year old.
Competent DD players are a precious rarity nowadays more than ever.
I used to smoke anyone who needed it in every match, even if I was in a British CL or another ship with 'Selfish smoke'. I stopped most of the time for the simple reason that people would ignore it and just sail right through, meaning I'd lost a precious smoke for nothing. 9 times out of 10 it was wasted and that 1 time out of 10 would be a BB which then died anyway by firing its main guns while low in my smoke.
I have had a few good games in the Helena lately. Some good team play, as well. I think I like it better than the Chapayev. Maybe because I do not feel obligated to get closer to support the dds with radar. And the Helena is a support ship, in her own right. The AA is not bad AND you get hydro. A critique\analysis would be welcome.
That smoke is more than for farming, hadnt he smoke up your CV wouldve been dead and the pacing of his attack was good as well, 11/10 wouldve bombed him with compliment, really smart play
I never had opponents like these ! They were just waiting for u to shoot !
Hey. Falmu, when we see CV videos. I do miss them.
Thanks for highlighting what was my favorite light cruiser in that tree.
Got to tell you though, in regards the Helena (the city), the second e is flat. It's not Helayna (though that's proper Greek, the origin of the name), just Hell-en-ah.
Montana is not a sophisticated place and it shows in the pronunciation of locales by the folks from there.
Emerald eats two Citis and stays in the same position in Smokescreen 🤦🏽♂️
Ahhh WoWs. Where a DD fucking off to kill a CV at the end of the map gets more exp than the DD who plays with the team
I lost myself when the evangelion OP XDDDD
Good video.
That ARP Myoko tho. Almost got kraken also at the same game.
Man, I wanna be that good teammate but I play IJN Gunboat DDs that are less maneuverable than certain battleships.
I get blapped a lot because I have a tendency to get too close to the enemies
Most golden thing is its a IJN DD. Normally at this tier IJN DDs will load in the game, torp once and die.
link to 2:03 ?
ruclips.net/video/_VZ1oRXCoMY/видео.html There you go my good sir.
I would give you silver but this ain't reddit
Oh dear i know that tune,,, damn i believe thats rainbow six 3 raven shield, the thing i played to death some 15-16 years ago, a high quality game that they stopped making after like 2008 or so??
My god. wtf was that music at 2-3 mins?
FOOKIIN HAAAAAAX!!!
Damn, i miss that Evangelion theme song
Helena is surprisingly good. A huge leap from the pathetic Dallas.
The other very rare thing you could see this game is a DD which is not focused to oblivion by the enemy CV. Believe me, that is more than painful...
This is the weeb content I subscribe for
Always nice to hear Neon Genesis Evangelion... even if it's... yea.
barakkuda_ru gave you the smoke
Ah yes i can tell this is tone death tuesday from the garbage weeb music. 11/10 never change twitch chat.
This camo made by holeos. And very very nice.
I really feel for flamu and all the weeb shit he has to endure.
make a commentary about İbuki please.
that fucking Tom Clancy's Rainbow six?!?!?
" one more"
yep i thought the same before not just unspotting myself and getting myself killed
One japanese song and Comments act as though its in the entire video
Akazuki didn't Suicide mindblowing... Unlike the Mass that suicided against ranger at J-line..
What is a competent teammate?
Seriously though, there should be a counter for ‘Damage teammates do in your smoke screen
Weebs out!
MY MOYKO I DONT HARDLY EVER USE TORPS OR GRAF SPEE MY TRENTON IS GOOD THOUGH PERFECT POSITION WITH THE TORPS . IM MOSTLY A BB GUY BUT DO LOVE COMPETENT PLAYERS ON MY TEAM LIKE YOU HAD WITH THE DD GOES A LONG WAY IN FIGHTING NICE VID. ON HELENAS ABBILTYS WITH A GOOD CAPT.
OKAY GOOD TALK DONNY
@@Chironex_Fleckeri yeah i allmost bled out an it tickeled my brain a bit had to relearn how to walk an everything but typing words right jus dont go hand in hand an im 50 not 80 lol
@@donnymccann9620 Aw. I'm sorry in that case. I hope you're enjoying WoWs while you recover. I wish you a speedy recovery man. That sounds crazy.
@@Chironex_Fleckeri I WAS PLAYING BEFORE ALL THAT MY OLD ACCOUNT IS CRAZYHORSE D-M and thank you now im jus tryen to walk like im not drunk my equal lib. is off lol
Is this some kind of challenge; 2:04 To try to play the game while at the same time listening to the most annoying music in the world?
I don't care how much money they donate, no one should be forced to listen to that at any price.
CV rules the game, a good cv player is what you need to win or loose! the rest is statistic...
So sad taht a good and fun game like this is not normal.
It's not fun for the other team. I wouldn't say it was a good game, but it went well for green lol
He stole ur kill? That Akatsuki did most of the work against the Sinop.... Id always think of known streamers to be less selfcentered and more objective. Apparently thats me being naive.
Well if you make video about having 1 out of 11 other dudes actually doing what he is supposed to then yeah that game is "Thinking man action game" or whatever this Ad was.
Why is the music so awful?
Even bad overall poor players ru.wows-numbers.com/player/80627951,Barrakuda_RU/ can make good teammates occasionally.
Nah Helena is tanky. If you were in anything but a Helena, that Ismail would have blapped you. Instead you ate 6 overpens to the citadel
I could never watch your stream with how much random shit pops up all over the screen and obstructs most of the actual stream
Yup,was about to post the same, very annoying and distracting.
Congrats. Your both idiots. People actively supporting Flamus stream having the AUDACITY to ruin your free content. HOW DARE THEY!
@@onebigfatguy its called constructive critisism, op was a litte direct though, but no need for name calling.
@@DavidSmith-te9gg How the hell is it "constructive"?
It literally reads like a whiny kid. "Hey streamer! Turn off the notifications from those people actually supporting you and asking just to be acknowledged so my free content doesn't get interrupted!"
when a follower connects, the animations that hide a quater of screen are painful and frankly awful . We need to see the battle, not these stupid animations
damn weeb music
Wtf is with the music.
That second song was so annoying... these Japanese cartoon fans 🙄
Omg that fucking awful weeb music.
Rigged
One of the reasons I stopped running the Helena is because it only excels vs lower tier scrubs on island heavy maps like this trash video. Vs tier 8 or any competent cruiser player you are dead. The shells are inconsistent fire starters vs heavier armor as well. Glad you had fun vs those t5s though.
How many interruptions can you get in one game...10.....20.
At 8 min. Is was about 10-14 times...really annoying, despite it is your truly followers at YT. I am out. Sorry.
Flamu all respect 4 you but do something with those adds donation..i.m watching you from the phone and those pop add donations and other stuff are taking lots off space from the actual fight..and that Japanese music ..OMG ..it.s annoying as f..ck..
1st?