2017 Bentley Mulsanne Extended Wheelbase (EWB) Limousine FIRST DRIVE REVIEW (3 of 4)

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  • Опубликовано: 15 янв 2025

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  • @colinjackson6885
    @colinjackson6885 8 лет назад +2

    This has to be the most luxurious and amazing motor cars ever to come out of Crewe and indeed anywhere. Plus It is all natural full grain Leather. I love this car and until you have sampled it you cannot possibly imagine just how good it is. Thank you Bentley.

  • @sheelotastic
    @sheelotastic 8 лет назад +39

    this is the best limo ever. i like the exact spec on the video ... that brown color is amazing. Better than the phantom

  • @rich495
    @rich495 10 месяцев назад +1

    One of the world’s greatest cars- ever!!!
    Racing Green, single-tone, with Tan and Cumbrian Green interior with Tan seatbelts

  • @wagsbass
    @wagsbass 8 лет назад +12

    I learned something new today, "The Queen of England is a car guy"

  • @Nemoticon
    @Nemoticon 8 лет назад +10

    Bentleys have always been the limousine that you want to drive. Well that's what they used to say anyway.
    The Bentley website has a pretty good 'car configure' page on it. It's pretty fun.

    • @Nemoticon
      @Nemoticon 8 лет назад +1

      ***** Dude, every major manufacturer that has a 'car configure' on their website... been there, done that. lol
      The Prestige/Performance brands do it the best, Rolls Royce, Aston Martin, Ferrari, Porsche. And it's true, I can spend hours on them... urgh

    • @Nemoticon
      @Nemoticon 8 лет назад +1

      ***** Oh god, me too. Every variation of every model, one for every scenario of mood. I hate it when you can't save them to PDFs though...

    • @Nemoticon
      @Nemoticon 8 лет назад

      ***** I never thought of changing the Print destination! Well, here's another few hours gonna be washed away on car configs...

  • @emmanuealmarshallsr6819
    @emmanuealmarshallsr6819 5 лет назад +1

    Love your reviews man. Very informative!!

  • @truth7515
    @truth7515 8 лет назад +1

    My 2017 Bentley Mulsan would be two toned blue metallic of course two toned blue interior as well with all of the bells and whistles mentioned in this review with speed tires. Such an awsome automobile.Pure luxury at it's all time best superior quality.

  • @noaht-s8126
    @noaht-s8126 8 лет назад +38

    This car is the best car to date for being chauffeured in .

    • @natpeterson9735
      @natpeterson9735 7 лет назад +2

      DYLAN SHAPIRO LMAO

    • @Coconutballsack
      @Coconutballsack 7 лет назад +1

      Freaking mercedes fanboy

    • @aidan7936
      @aidan7936 7 лет назад +4

      DYLAN SHAPIRO OMG your so wrong it’s untrue, the Bentley is on a different level off luxury hence why it’s 200k more. I’ll be honest until I found out more about cars I thought the s class was the pinnacle of luxury, but I soon realised I was wrong.

    • @holstfly1
      @holstfly1 6 лет назад

      I would love and hate that. I would love to drive it but then I'm assuming people would think I'm the Chauffeur

  • @jamesellsworth9673
    @jamesellsworth9673 8 лет назад +1

    I would configure mind with the Speed wheels and two tones of green: light olive and sage over. As an older person, I would use the EWB and a chauffeur for touring. My driving days may be coming to an end.

  • @RealWorldCarReviews
    @RealWorldCarReviews 6 лет назад +1

    Excellent review thanks. I’d have one in exactly those colours and that spec. Stunning.

  • @tonyrsch7994
    @tonyrsch7994 8 лет назад +4

    I really like this car looks beautiful

  • @Atombender
    @Atombender 8 лет назад +20

    For such a large vehicle I would definitely want a two-tone finish. Something like Sapphire Blue and Silver (roof and bonnet). Light grey interiour and a partition between the font and back. Because sometimes you will be traveling together with your wife/gf/mistress.

  • @hddaproducer
    @hddaproducer 8 лет назад +30

    how tall are you , just trying to see how tall the vehicle is

  • @jebbush8491
    @jebbush8491 8 лет назад +4

    The music at 0:40 sounds like the garage from Gran Turismo

  • @Moisi547
    @Moisi547 6 лет назад

    The design and colour combination is beautiful done.

  • @kingbeyes57
    @kingbeyes57 8 лет назад +20

    When I hit lotto I will let you know how will I want and expect my Bentley to be built.2017

  • @MrRobcooper100
    @MrRobcooper100 8 лет назад

    Good man, It's nice to see you picked up the true english speech. Pissing down. Great reviews. Thank you

  • @ALr569
    @ALr569 8 лет назад +2

    just a perfect video !

  • @Aurora_v_cali
    @Aurora_v_cali 8 лет назад +1

    Beautiful vehicle 😍💖😍💖😍💙😎

  • @howardsalsitzj.d.7818
    @howardsalsitzj.d.7818 8 лет назад +5

    MM Another great review... of the Bentley Mulsane EWB. Thanks, as always.
    A couple of questions: a) What is (phonetically) "fish beta"? b) I was not aware of your airplane photo shots. How do I find them?
    Hope you have landed back in the US for the holiday. Safe travels.

    • @MotoManTV
      @MotoManTV  8 лет назад +1

      Hey Howard - Thanks for reaching out. Do you mean 'Bis Später' - what I say at the end of each episode? That is German for 'Til Later'. Meaning our conversation in ongoing . . . And last but least, I post pics and short clips of airplanes on my Instagram - instagram.com/motomantv/

    • @howardsalsitzj.d.7818
      @howardsalsitzj.d.7818 8 лет назад +1

      Thanks, MM. I figured it was something like that. The closest I come to German is some Yiddish ... but you don't appear to be a Yiddish user! ha ha
      Happy 4th of July holiday, my friend.

    • @neo19576
      @neo19576 8 лет назад

      Motoman, enjoyed the review as always! I have yet to see a review of another limo namely the Mercedes Maybach Pullman, maybe you could be the first?

    • @MotoManTV
      @MotoManTV  8 лет назад +1

      Not something we see a lot of . . . We may shoot Maybach at some point . . .

  • @bond1811
    @bond1811 8 лет назад

    Such a great and well spoken host!

  • @keybraker
    @keybraker 8 лет назад

    Germany & Austria so beautiful roads !

  • @whotf888
    @whotf888 6 лет назад

    Imperial blue and anthracite interior, with some darker wood. All the options equipped. By the way does it come with a 230V power socket?

  • @GlenWFord-ps8ts
    @GlenWFord-ps8ts 8 лет назад

    Great car. Great review. This guy is cool. I like both the RR and this. I`ll take one of each.

  • @RamMohammadJosephKaur
    @RamMohammadJosephKaur 8 лет назад

    I'm getting this for Christmas. Yay

  • @RundfunkerOnline
    @RundfunkerOnline 8 лет назад +11

    Cool host :D

  • @andrewporter1096
    @andrewporter1096 8 лет назад

    I get the pleasures to build the Bentley mulsanne short/ long wheelbase they are a brilliant car to build.

  • @floriandietsche9180
    @floriandietsche9180 8 лет назад +6

    1:01 I thought it has a V12???

    • @Nemoticon
      @Nemoticon 8 лет назад

      Bentley currently don't use V12s in any of their models.

    • @Nemoticon
      @Nemoticon 8 лет назад

      ***** Yes... I know, since 2003.

    • @WSOJ3
      @WSOJ3 8 лет назад

      No, the Continental/Flying Spur/Bentayga uses the 6.0L W12 engines (also shared with Audi); the Mulsanne always uses its own exclusive handbuilt classic 6.75L V8 that no other model use.

    • @fahadalotibi5561
      @fahadalotibi5561 8 лет назад

      warset 🌝

  • @AJosephCurr
    @AJosephCurr 6 лет назад +1

    You know a limousine form nothing!
    I have had two Lincoln stretched limousines. First was a 1971 1 of 20 built that year by Andy Hotton, the official Ford converter. It was one of about 5 in the Los Angeles basin. In Westwood (The village just sough of UCLA), the people leaving the movie theater walked out and slowly lined up to see who would get in the rare 460 ci V-8. They were college graduates but all official 'nobodys' though one was more beautiful than most female movie stars.
    Cadillac built their 75 in two versions, the long wheelbase sedan and the limousine, with a divider and window that went up and down from the front or back.
    The second was a 1974 with a gangster back window. About 6" by 18". The former had a standard back window. Any man has driven a limo knows how cramped it is and how it is perfect for short men. Yes, women sometimes drive them. The 71 was formal. Leather in front and cloth in back. It had jump seats. The 74 had all leather seats and the rear facing seats had the bottom swing up. There was a case in between where a TV and or mobile phone may be found. The trunk often had a boomerang looking fiberglass elevated antenna.
    Limousines and long wheelbase cars usually have a rear air conditioning unit in the shelf over the rear axle in the trunk. At that time in Pasadena a Rolls or Bentley sold from $15-30,000 for the sedan to the convertible and earned 10 times that cost each year. A very few cars go up in value after they are sold new, but it does happen, not for the two modern last great internal combustion gasoline fueled engines. Electric motors which Tesla is giving its patents away free to the world. Jay Leno has warned electric car buyers not to pay for extra for delux exhaust systems. There will be no more V-8 rumble, but they will always be great to hear.
    I had an older friend who was a rich orthopedic surgeon and he had two standard Cadillac 75 s One was a 77 the next a 79, both long wheel base sedans, but most people called them limo's. I would kid him when we would meet in a bar. I'd out of the blue say, "But remember doc, mine is 2" longer than yours. His had a 149" wheel base and mine was a 151". He knew what I was talking about but those who shouldn't have been listening in might have gotten another idea!
    You do give superior reviews over the other hand full of other reviewers. I get tired of their repeating that the center of the RR hubcap stays upright. I wish you well. Yes, we have the only climate with winter maximum of rain, Mediterranean. No rain from June to November most years and sometimes for longer that that. It is true South West cars do not suffer from body rust. However, the sun can reek havoc on the upholstery.

  • @sachinchavadi7708
    @sachinchavadi7708 6 лет назад +1

    his voice through the introduction resembles that of DDL's in Lincoln

  • @zauru192
    @zauru192 8 лет назад +63

    so, any way to become millionare over night?

    • @hentai126
      @hentai126 8 лет назад +10

      casino

    • @davywang7119
      @davywang7119 8 лет назад +8

      zauru192 actually, becoming a millionaire is not enough to afford this car lol.

    • @ArsPK23
      @ArsPK23 8 лет назад +6

      Davy Wang depends having 3 million or 100 million, you're still a millionaire.

    • @InfamousAWJ
      @InfamousAWJ 8 лет назад +3

      Davy Wang Fuck you mean?

    • @dylanz9429
      @dylanz9429 7 лет назад +2

      Davy Wang it is used it is 240k ... thats not that pad if you have 1 million it's still a bad decision though I would spend max on cars : 80k which is 8% of your wealth which is still acceptable in my opinion I think the best way to spend 8-10% on cars would be : SUV , Sports Car, and Compact for e.x Audi Q7 , Fiat 500 , and Cayman (2017-18 models ) would be around 90K which again is a bit high if you have a million I would probably rather spend less for e.x Audi Q2 (SUV and Compact at the same time) and Cayman which is around 65 K (I'm calculating European prices of course since it is where I reside)

  • @jameschurchill8847
    @jameschurchill8847 8 лет назад +5

    Excuse me sir, would you happen to have grey poupon?

  • @redhotchillibricks
    @redhotchillibricks 7 лет назад +13

    For an American, he dressed quite well for this episode... ...Until I saw the red shoelaces.

    • @a1imagecapture866
      @a1imagecapture866 6 лет назад +1

      Haha but the voice and way of talking is killing me.

    • @billbligh4547
      @billbligh4547 4 года назад

      “quite” is doing a lot of work here.

  • @abymathew295
    @abymathew295 8 лет назад

    we would like to know how it compares to the RR.phantom...

  • @1337MrSam
    @1337MrSam 8 лет назад +2

    Just 300? DamnI really like this vehicleIm really curious about the stone wood finish in the interior

  • @yippie6862
    @yippie6862 8 лет назад +15

    I would have it fitted with a hot Swedish blond as my driver and a Danish one in the back to keep me company. Is there a hot tub option?

  • @amermalik3581
    @amermalik3581 6 лет назад +1

    OMG love it

  • @rare6499
    @rare6499 8 лет назад

    Superb old boy!!

  • @carter3144
    @carter3144 8 лет назад

    Black, matte on the two tone, white break calipers, matte black wheels. Deep Brown/ black interior. With purple shades.

  • @jaroslawnowak5246
    @jaroslawnowak5246 7 лет назад +1

    we like that car and we like you!

  • @Sevenfeet0
    @Sevenfeet0 8 лет назад +1

    One very important feature missing on the privacy angle....a separation panel between the driver and passengers. This used to be pretty common on limos from the 30's to the 70's and we don't really see them anymore except in custom stretch jobs. I mean, if you want complete privacy with shades all around only to have your driver spill the beans to WSJ or TMZ, then what's the point?

  • @shanyi5006
    @shanyi5006 8 лет назад

    Thanks. Really liking B over RR now.

  • @the1manshow905
    @the1manshow905 4 года назад

    For the exterior, I'd like wintergreen along the side & mint green on the top...
    Then in the interior, I'd want the mint green seats (in suede) with wintergreen stitching... With my signature (in gold stitching) in the headrest.

  • @kf5541
    @kf5541 5 лет назад

    I live near Woking and sometimes see the mclaren test cars driving late at night covered in blue wraps!

  • @Cchichester
    @Cchichester 8 лет назад

    Video quality looks so much nicer

  • @YohanNaraine
    @YohanNaraine 8 лет назад

    Nice Bentley!

  • @IceDree
    @IceDree 8 лет назад +2

    Mine would be a single-tone Burnt Orange with two contrasting coach lines (Rolls Royce speak for Pinstripes) in Continental Yellow & Bentley written on the side in Arabic (saw a Rolls like that & it was frickin epic).
    The interior would be Redwood leather with contrasting Continental Yellow stitching, Black Alcantra headliner & Sapelli Pommele veneer.
    The wheels will be chrome plated 2-piece multiapokes wheels (the ones you had on the Light Blue Mulsanne a few years back).
    I'd have a Specialty order…. I'd have them replace the android tablets (I'm guessing made by LG?) with a couple of Microsoft Surface tablet ;)
    What about you, M? How would you spec it?
    Ohh right speaking of rear passengers sunroof, back in the early 2000s Cadillac teamed up with Snoop Dogg & they made the Snoop DeVille (a limited edition DeVille)…. It came with a similar sunroof, only a bit smaller
    On a side note, the first LWB Bentley I saw was a Bulletproof Arnage RL back in the day.

  • @chele089
    @chele089 8 лет назад

    I'd have it two-tone: black as a main color and silver up top. Also I'd take the speed wheels like you said. For the interior I'd have them put in dark brown leather with black open pore wood.

  • @michaeldiaz2409
    @michaeldiaz2409 8 лет назад

    This car is fantastic

  • @misterjt961
    @misterjt961 8 лет назад +1

    obsidian black, tinted windows, inside i want the whitest white possible with some finishes like the arm rest and ceiling decorated with ornate japanese style floral patterns, ideally id like flush wheel covers to make the car look sleeker. id want chrome accents on the outside to a minimum apart from the grill, inside the headlights, tailpipe and wheels. definitely would have the diamond quilting on the doors. if possible i wouldn't mind the grill being backlit either to add some more presence due to the lack of chrome on the car. I want a black luxurious tank thats contrasted by a white ornamental zen oasis on the inside.

    • @jonathangwynne1917
      @jonathangwynne1917 8 лет назад +1

      I would love to see that. I don't normally like white interiors, but in this case I think you might be onto something interesting.

  • @trinisuprazee
    @trinisuprazee 8 лет назад

    just found your channel.....nice

  • @jonsytopgear
    @jonsytopgear 7 лет назад

    Could you start mentioning torque in Nm also? Very nice videos btw!

  • @admiralpicard2010
    @admiralpicard2010 8 лет назад +1

    The queen quite often drives herself around even at aged 90!

    • @rustynugget2288
      @rustynugget2288 8 лет назад

      +Arne i didnt get that until i finished the vid

  • @HumayunSumOn
    @HumayunSumOn 8 лет назад

    It's a great video

  • @romanpanmei2647
    @romanpanmei2647 6 лет назад

    Is there extra interior shoes?

  • @StephenButlerOne
    @StephenButlerOne 8 лет назад +14

    I had to send mine back as the headphones had s fault

    • @eastlake93
      @eastlake93 8 лет назад +10

      Me too. mine kept falling out my ear when I turned to the left. Totally unacceptable. I took mine back and give the dealer a firm talking too.

    • @vellyvell773
      @vellyvell773 8 лет назад +1

      Lol

    • @RohanGNair
      @RohanGNair 7 лет назад +1

      Stephen Butler I sent mine back because the cusion was placed in a different place

    • @rover5058
      @rover5058 7 лет назад

      you actually have a mulsanne ? god damn fucking millionares

    • @RohanGNair
      @RohanGNair 7 лет назад

      Veron bruh

  • @TheStimie
    @TheStimie 8 лет назад

    it's crazy how the lexus ls 460 had all of those things a decade ago accept the table in its backseat.

  • @tapanlilani1794
    @tapanlilani1794 8 лет назад

    interior is so awesome but im not a two tone guy i love dark black single colour with some little gold or silver finish 😉😉

  • @dennishewitt9509
    @dennishewitt9509 8 лет назад +5

    I can't believe you did not show us the reclining seats in action! Or the entire functionality of the rear center console! BOOOO

  • @virajbutale2277
    @virajbutale2277 6 лет назад

    I love you Mulsanne💟💜💛💚💙

  • @ANTHONYLALLI
    @ANTHONYLALLI 8 лет назад

    what features (if any) that the mulsanne has that the phantom does not? what advantages do both have over the other?

  • @Aurora_v_cali
    @Aurora_v_cali 8 лет назад

    Does that sunroof open?

  • @omarjallow6206
    @omarjallow6206 7 лет назад

    Very nice 😍😍😍

  • @skintalk.thailand
    @skintalk.thailand 8 лет назад

    What do you think, Motoman, Muslanne or Phantom (or Ghost)?

  • @trahannsmith9311
    @trahannsmith9311 8 лет назад

    I got one of these in shop I'm getting a 350 motor out of a cutlass an out it in this ...yea I'm balling

  • @fajarmalikusaleh7749
    @fajarmalikusaleh7749 8 лет назад

    how much it costs? i'm very curious cause this is a very luxury vehicle ... :D

  • @archanpatel7041
    @archanpatel7041 4 года назад

    Right side steering available????

  • @ecbmanikandan
    @ecbmanikandan 7 лет назад

    Hello GENTLEMAN., WHY you forgot the Rear RECLINING SEAT.?

  • @rnz250pai4
    @rnz250pai4 8 лет назад

    Great design it still hasn't got anything on the R type but then again what does.

  • @godsservant2324
    @godsservant2324 8 лет назад

    I like that one right there.

  • @wewe745
    @wewe745 8 лет назад

    i will choose mulsanne ewb.. just very gorgeous and levish

  • @scottleyva8656
    @scottleyva8656 3 года назад

    Those wheels are the only ones to have!

  • @syedfahim6652
    @syedfahim6652 7 лет назад

    Sir I want to know the price of this car

  • @stanleynuriyev8999
    @stanleynuriyev8999 8 лет назад

    MotoMan< which is better between s65amg and that car technically, is Mulsanne got the same speed ?

    • @MotoManTV
      @MotoManTV  8 лет назад +1

      Two *very* different vehicles in personality. If you are looking for High Tech - the Benz. More style. The Mulsanne.

    • @stanleynuriyev8999
      @stanleynuriyev8999 8 лет назад

      Thanks!

  • @Williamwallace-f92
    @Williamwallace-f92 8 лет назад

    What graham norton builds engines ?

  • @onlethebest
    @onlethebest 8 лет назад +4

    i want one

  • @chasevineland1508
    @chasevineland1508 8 лет назад

    The front wheel is disproportionately forward. Looks strange considering how long the trunk sticks out.

  • @siphomadyo840
    @siphomadyo840 5 лет назад

    The Mulsanne doesn't have an umbrella??

  • @LlyleHunter
    @LlyleHunter 8 лет назад +3

    Not only does Queen Elizabeth drive a manual, but she goes off-roading too.

    • @wigwamsalesman
      @wigwamsalesman 8 лет назад +2

      She also owned a rover p5b. Rover, not Range Rover and the b was for Buick as it used the long serving Buick small block v8.

    • @nikb6528
      @nikb6528 8 лет назад

      Hi, Brucey! Haven't seen you in a while. I see you're in market for a yacht!

    • @eyesofisabelofficial
      @eyesofisabelofficial 7 лет назад

      Long serving in british usage, Buick ditched it after only two years in the 1961-63 Special.

  • @johnbaldock6353
    @johnbaldock6353 8 лет назад

    Great. I'll Take Too!!

  • @rafaelzayas6158
    @rafaelzayas6158 8 лет назад

    A two tone just like the one you reviewed.

  • @richfuckable
    @richfuckable 8 лет назад

    Finally since the launch of the 2014 new Mercedes Benz S class.. Bentley was finally able to copy S class after 3 years...

  • @lucianobezerra4380
    @lucianobezerra4380 6 лет назад

    What a car !!!!!

  • @cls63amgwagon34
    @cls63amgwagon34 8 лет назад

    Why no more W12s?

    • @Ilija742
      @Ilija742 8 лет назад

      Fuel economy i guess.

    • @3232schmitty
      @3232schmitty 8 лет назад +5

      Bentley hasn't offered a W12 in the Mulsanne or any of their other large sedans. They keep the big 'ol V8 partly because its tradition and partly because it's more than powerful enough. This engine makes its ridiculous 700 lb/ft if torque at around 1500 rpm and only revs to the mid 5's. I would personally love to see this V8 in a Continental or Bentayga.

    • @Ilija742
      @Ilija742 8 лет назад

      Bailey Smith I think he wasn't referring to Mulsanne model, but the Bentley itself. v8 is much more economical than w12, i too would like to see a v8 bi-turbo bentayga.

    • @MBisFrenchy
      @MBisFrenchy 8 лет назад

      +Ilija Petrovic V8 is less taxes for importing to countries such as China.

    • @mrlalbi101
      @mrlalbi101 8 лет назад

      +Ilija Petrovic lol this v8 gets horrifiic gas mileage too idk y it matters

  • @KealeyOnCars
    @KealeyOnCars 8 лет назад

    You did test a military prototype. ;D

  • @kalpeshshelat
    @kalpeshshelat 8 лет назад +1

    I would choose this over any Rolls Royce, just not sure if i would take it over the Limelight, then again, Limelight is just a concept by Rolls Royce. Not sure if i would take it over the Maybach S600.

  • @theowner1459
    @theowner1459 6 лет назад

    Is the moderator a German People?

  • @robertruehlmann3667
    @robertruehlmann3667 8 лет назад

    the ewb version as I have pets amd they don't offer an estate version.

  • @dollarboy8594
    @dollarboy8594 5 лет назад +1

    👍❤️

  • @Agentxphile
    @Agentxphile 8 лет назад

    Why doesn't the us allow on air TV in cars?

  • @rfvrfv2463
    @rfvrfv2463 8 лет назад

    definitely two tone - two shades of grey or blue and teal

  • @tanujsabharwal6435
    @tanujsabharwal6435 7 лет назад +1

    I want this

  • @JeS-ii6yp
    @JeS-ii6yp 8 лет назад

    I'd have the division partition to make it a proper limo.

  • @gasanmalikov
    @gasanmalikov 7 лет назад

    Woher kannst du Stuttgart so gut aussprechen, du bist wahrscheinlich deutsch.

  • @130world1
    @130world1 8 лет назад

    Interesting, Id do a single varying tone with a touring package

  • @no0ne69_3
    @no0ne69_3 8 лет назад +3

    Rolls Royce > Bentley > Mercedes

  • @viktorkaramazov9898
    @viktorkaramazov9898 8 лет назад

    where is all star???

  • @Quickscopesproz
    @Quickscopesproz 8 лет назад

    pissing down lmaoo love being British

  • @rafisjurkrie1363
    @rafisjurkrie1363 8 лет назад +1

    sir you're just great reviewer you explain many things. but can your hands little bit calm and not so annoying

  • @shubhromu
    @shubhromu 8 лет назад +6

    That grille!! It's a face only its mother can love. Brilliant car though...

    • @jonathangwynne1917
      @jonathangwynne1917 8 лет назад +1

      I noticed that.
      If I win the lottery, I'm heading to Crewe to have one of those specced for me. The first question I'll be asking them is if I can get it with a traditional Bentley diagonal mesh grill.

    • @shubhromu
      @shubhromu 8 лет назад +1

      The old grille had just about grown on me and they spring this ugly mug....God its an ugly grille....