Is the Golden Age of American Jews Ending?
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- Опубликовано: 24 мар 2024
- Franklin Foer is a staff writer at The Atlantic where he wrote the cover story of the April issue, “The Golden Age of American Jews is Ending”.
He is the author of The Last Politician: Inside Joe Biden's White House and the Struggle for America's Future and World Without Mind: The Existential Threat of Big Tech. He was previously the editor of The New Republic and a staff writer at Slate and New York magazine. His other books include How Soccer Explains the World and Jewish Jocks (co-edited with Marc Tracy), which won a National Jewish Book Award.
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How is two state solution supposed to work? Are the Israeli going to give the land they took from Palestinian territory through the settlement program? of course not. the two state solution is the gaslighting that has been used to stifle the basic human rights of Palestinians for decades. It’s ridiculous that we expect Palestinians to accept what we refuse, what we would not give up, in the United States. From the river to the sea, full right of return for all Palestinians as well as Jews and equal rights to all citizens, and no discrimination; a constitution that protects everyone; that’s the only solution.
Moral preening without power is a joke. You should improve your comedy routine.
@@kreek22 He's right, a two state solution is the real joke. Israel has no intent to allow a two state solution and the settlements are their way of ensuring that. The only solution is the South Africa solution, end apartheid and give everyone equal access, equal rights, and representation in government.
@@kreek22you're scum
Exactly Equal rights for all Palestinians Christians, Muslims and Jews in both Palestine and occupied Palestine. Two solutions is a smoke screen to continue Palestinian suppression
Would you recommend merging Pakistan and India back together in order to resolve the dispute over Kashmir? What about Northern Ireland - is terrorism to try to undo that partition moral or helpful? Why isn't a constitution and equal voting rights enough to protect Armenians in Turkey, Copts in Egypt, Ahmadi Muslims in Pakistan? Why did the world just recently partition Sudan? What was wrong with a single Sudanese state?
After the Civil War, African Americans had a constitution that protects everyone. What they got was Jim Crow and the KKK - all legal under American law. Why didn't our equal rights work?
Do you recognize Native American sovreignty over reservation land? Why isn't living as an equal citizen under our constitution "enough" for them? Why do they need their "own" land?
No one loves partition - I don't think it's ever anyone's first choice. It's just the choice that many people come to after people have killed each other's children long enough. Maybe you should take the above examples seriously and try to understand why Jews wanted a nation and why they will not easily give it up to live as a persecuted minority again. You don't have to agree. You may want to try to understand.
Then there’s the passing of Lieberman.
Invoking antisemitism flippantly for criticism of Israel and its history as well as ongoing atrocities is rendering the accusation of antisemitism meaningless
The word "anti-semitism" was literally invented by propagandists.
Jews disagree about what constitutes anti-Semitism just like Al Sharpton and Clarence Thomas disagree about what constitutes racism. It doesn't render the word meaningless - it renders it a word with different meanings to different people.
Many Jews perceive criticism of Israel to be anti-Semitic when that criticism comes from paragons of virtue and human rights at the UN like Russia, Syria and Iran or from Westerners with almost no historical knowledge who also have no problem with any other form of nationalism and nothing to say about the displacement of 2.2 million Afghans from Pakistan or the ongoing war, famine, and genocide in Sudan.
If you want your criticism of Israel not to be perceived as anti-Semitic - make sure it's not. Is your criticism grounded in love and respect for Jewish people? Does it take into account that Jews have historically been oppressed? Does it recognize that most Jewish Israelis descended from refugees? Are you concerned for Jewish safety and security? Do you treat Israel like every other totally messed up post-colonial state? Would you apply your recommendations for Israel to your own nation? Or are you unconcerned with those questions and ignorant of history?
Invoking Islamophobia for criticism of Palestinian nationalism and its history as well as ongoing atrocities is weakening Jewish self-determination and the protection of Jewish political rights around the world.
@@jaialaiwarrior perpetual victimhood 😞
@@whatintheworld6076 Yes, Pro Palestinians have a perpetual victim mindset. Don't know when they'll learn people defend themselves when you attack them.
If you went home today
And someone else was living there
And you could not remove them
What would you do
Then
What would you do
Then
What would you do
Getting the picture
SSS = Shoot Shovel Shut-up.
OSS is over. From river to sea, one person, one vote.
what's OSS?
Sorry I meant to write TSS.
Two state solution is over.
OSS is probably the single worst outcome imaginable
Worse for whom?
@jaybeaton9301 Thank you for your question. I will explain. I'm an attorney and I have been involved in several severe domestic violence cases. Spouse-on-spouce violence and parent-on-child violence.
In the course of these proceedings, no one in their wildest dreams suggested that "the only solution here is to mandate that these violent families move in together and live scrunched up together from now until the end of time. Sharing an apartment AND bank account AND workspace." This idea is madness. The first and foremost goal is to ensure an appropriate level of SEPARATION between the parties concerned.
The idea that the solution to the most toxic inter-group relationship on planet earth is to smoosh them together for eternity is the single worst idea I can think of, unless your goal is perpetual misery for everyone involved.
Shorter video: antisemitism in the West has receded, but let's ignore the middle Eastern versions we're importing or pretend they'll be wonderful.
Golden age of America is ending 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
There is a strangely close correlation between the decline of America and the "golden age of American Jews." I wonder why that would be.
Factually false...
@@hfyaer Of course the same thing happened in Russia during the golden age of Russian Jews (1917-53). Bad decline. Is this pattern international?
It's not very "scientific" but it's a very, very consistent pattern that nations that treat their Jews well, do very well themselves. And nations that treat their Jews badly will decline.
How come non of the founding fathers were Jewish if America was founded on Judeo/Christian values as Trump claimed today while promoting his new book for sale - The KjV Bible?
Knowing Donny Dumpo Stinkypants, that hokey bible he's selling has blank pages.
Is the Golden Age of American Jews Ending? yes , absolutely , chuck schummer made it clear , the house in divided from within , israel is isolated , and i am certain it is only going to get worse , no fix for this ripp
Yup… just wait until the images and reports of tens of thousands dead Palestinians from this man-made starvation start flooding social media. It’s only the beginning of the horror.
Thank God!
Yes, because of support for Israel
They have to have a backup. They've almost finished destroying America from within. When America goes full third world communist, the Jews will run, just as they ran from their Soviet experiment.
Are we seriously meant to believe that these people went from not having any professors at Yale to being 17% of professors at elite universities, and this happened honestly? I don't.
Why don't you just research it, Peter ?
Is it past your IQ threshold ?
The golden age was courtesy of the Queen's Privy Council
very grand titles to his books, not so grand thinking ["the hills are in labor and a ridiculous mouse is brought forth" -- Horace]
you yourselves are being replaced by the Chinese [and Taiwanese]. lol
Unless I am missing important parts of the discussion here (and I well could), these people seem to be avoiding the elephant in the room, which is how the utter moral bankruptcy of the state of Israel, its atrocities against the Palestinians, and the justified outrage at the ruling elites who give Israel complete immunity from accountability for its actions are the real reason why some Jews in America feel 'under attack' simply for being Jewish. These people just don't want to deal with that issue and want to pretend they can go on living with attitudes and support for certain policies without being reminded how disgusting those policies are. They are being called to make a choice and take a stand on something they thought they could differ indefinitely. Compared with many courageous people, both Jewish and non-Jewish, who are working to remove the deeper source of anti-semitism these days and show the best of humanity, it seems these people want to trade in euphemisms that convince them they are the ultimate victims of events in the Middle East. Even if we put aside important moral questions, the one and only way to effectively remove that sense of discomfort some Jewish Americans feel is to grant the Palestinians the dignity they deserve through an end to the occupation and a moral accounting for those in power who have enable Israel's genocide. But I do not see these people advocating that. They speak of the need for 'solidarity' in the Jewish community when already many young American Jews understand what said above while many of the older generation remain profoundly ignorant or morally inconsistent about Israel. Without the declaring of truth, their ''solidarity' seems to mean sacrificing the moral respectability that the youth have simply to placate the elders and make them feel they are upright people for having attitudes which are otherwise excoriable. Putting aside important issues of personal safety, freedom of speech in the meaningful sense of the term, the question for these Hillel members is: do you understand why so many pople are angry at the state of Israel? Who do you stand in solidarity with vis-a-vis the savagery occuring in that region now and in the past? If you say that issue is not important for what is going on here, you are lying to yourself and likely trying to avoid subjecting your own attitudes towards Israel to fundamental examination. Or consider this question: if you are a supporter of Israel's actions now and its occupation of Gaza and the West Bank, why shouldn't people hate what you stand for? If you yourself claim that it is important for your sense of Jewish identity that you support Israel in the above sense, why shouldn't people criticize you and argue you don't understand your own tradition? If you are concerned with the fact that college Jewish Americans can no longer go around showing solidarity with Israel, that says more about you than anything else. If you are concerned that college Jewish Americans cannot wear the kipa without feeling less comfortable, that is a real concern but it must go hand in hand with clear show of solidarity with those Jews and non-Jews calling for justice in the Holy Land. For once again, putting aside important issues of individual rights, why shouldn't people dislike those who support programs of ethnic supremacy and ethnic cleansing?
I don't see anyone on the Left arguing that Chinese Americans need to loudly denounce the Chinese government at every turn and that they should be required to show solidarity with those calling for justice in the largest nation on earth. They are certainly not thrown off the student council because they visited China. Your entire comment is bullshit. Please find me one comparable example where Americans from X background are asked BY PROGRESSIVES to answer for foreign countries and their policies.
Many Indian American students use the Indian flag as a symbol for their student groups, would rally to support India if it suffered a terrorist attack, raise money for poor villages in India, are happy to correct misinformation about India, and visit family and friends in India. That doesn't mean they support the Modi government or any of its policies. And yes, attacking students with Indian, Pakistani , Chinese, or Saudi heritage for having a loving attachment to those nations and their cultures, for visibly associating with their culture, for occasionally flying those flags or using them as a symbol of culture and heritage - THAT IS RACIST. When you do that to Jews - that is RACISM.
Do you plan to continue to pour contempt and denigration on Italians through your Hollywood wing? just wondering
I sure hope it is over, never to return again
Jeez .. maybe tone down the zionism and genocide? Just a thought ..
They'll never give up on population replacement...in the West.
@@kreek22 the same population replacement which is in large part due to Hollywood and media. Jeez I didn’t knew Muslims had such a control over Hollywood I wonder who does. PS I didn’t knew Muslims had an interest in settling Indians and Hispanics in America. Great theory
There is no genocide being perpetrated by Jews and/or Israel. Stop lying.
Racism isn't related to what non-majority group people do - it's related to the way the majority thinks and how they justify their behavior.
People seem capable of criticizing Russia's current behavior without insulting Russian culture, Russian Orthodoxy, Russian food, Russia's existence, Russian DNA, the Russian language or even Russian nationalism. I've never seen anyone call for Russia to be dismantled due to their really bad war or even their pretty spectacular history of oppression, colonization, ethnic cleansing, subjugation of minorities and other bad wars. Most people who dislike the war in Ukraine are able to criticize the war without demonizing Russia or Russians.
Do you think that's true of the war in Gaza? Because ... the rhetoric, even in this comments section, does not seem remotely similar to me.
Jeez... Maybe tone the demagoguery? Just a thought...
"An antisemite used to be a person who dislike Jews. Now it is a person who Jews dislike" - Dr Hajo Meyer, Holocaust survivor 1924-2014.
An old man said something stupid. Big deal.
(That's pretty much every Trump or Biden speech, right?)
JVP bank accounts frozen. Anti-Semitic?
That is anti anti zionism
Maybe if you treat Palestinians as humans you will also face less resentment towards yourself
No need. Just as the Muslim nations had no need to treat Jews as humans and kicked them out decades ago, Israel has power to do as it pleases with the Islamazoids within its borders.
@@kreek22 Did they just wake up after thousands of years and realize they were antisemitic only decades ago? Or did something happen decades ago....like forcing thousands of Palestinians into refugee status? Historically the muslim world was a safe haven while Jews were being persecuted in Europe. Dehumanization will always lead to genocide eventually. If you think dehumanzing is justifiable, YOU are the problem.
@@kreek22 And comments like this is the reason why you’re losing the world. Eventually, US will choose to preserve itself and cutoff Israel. It’s inevitable. Then the power you built your pride on will bankrupt you.
@@kreek22 You do know from your own historians that Islam is what saved Jewry. You forget the Spanish Inquisition?
@@kreek22 read Avi shaliam’s book as Iraqi Jewish who settled in Israel. He explains how Mossad created the divide between Muslims and Jews across Yemen, Iraq and Syria to propel Jewish immigration to Israel. Muslims nations including Iran which to this day allows its Jewish citizens full rights have no Burden to prove anything. 68% of Israeli are from Middle East or North Africa their ancestors lived amongst Muslims for 1900 and unlike Europe face no large scale programs or violence. Until the Zionist state propaganda was introduced.
New generations has been taught the principles of human rights and been advocating for peace for everyone, that teaching showing the effectiveness nowadays when it comes to Palestinian rights to be exist and having hopes just like everyone in this world, the war in Gaza shows the brutality of Zionist against Palestinian. The atrocities like this will never pass without backfire against the dominant power of Israel. This is clearly showing that humanity still compassionate caring and peaceful
Indeed, the religion of peace, etc.
@@kreek22 There is no religion or way of life that is "of peace." Everyone thinks they have moral superiority and are justified in violently spreading their morality. Whether its Judaism, Islam, Christianity, Secular Liberal Democracy, Communism, Socialism, Hinduism, even Buddhism...when you think you are right and other people are so wrong that they're insects, you become genocidal.
There are many beautiful things about the new generation.
Do you think we could take 25% of the energy being directed against Zionism and turn it towards protecting the people of South Sudan or minorities in Pakistan? Or towards democracy in Iran or Russia? Or would that mess up the current human rights coalition?
@@deskset7436"wah wah wah what about X or Y or Z" stfu, your apartheid state is headed the way of Rhodesia and no amount of whataboutism is gonna change that
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Chazarians. Not jews.
There Was Never A Country Called Palestine If you consider Palestine to be a "Sovereign" and "Independent" country that goes back through most of recorded history as many would have you to believe, then a few questions need to be answered: When was it founded and by whom? What were its borders? What was its capital? Who was the President? What was its form of government? What were its major cities? What constituted the basis of its economy? Who was the Palestinian leader before Yasser Arafat? Was Palestine ever recognized by a country whose existence, at that time or now, leaves no room for interpretation? What was the language of the country of Palestine? What was the prevalent religion of the country of Palestine? What was the name of its currency and what was the approximate exchange rate of the Palestinian monetary unit against the US dollar, German mark, GB pound, or Japanese yen on any particular date? And, finally, since there is no such country today, what caused its demise and when did it occur? If these so-called "Palestinians" are anything but a generic collection of Arabs from all over the rest of the Arab world and if they really have a genuine ethnic identity that gives them right for self-determination, then why did they never try to become an independent and sovereign nation until Arabs suffered their devastating defeat in the Six Day War in 1967? A Few Forgotten Facts 1. Israel became a nation in 1312 BCE, two thousand years before the rise of Islam. 2. Arab refugees in Israel began identifying themselves as part of a Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the modern State of Israel. 3. Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 BCE, the Jews have had dominion over the land for one thousand years with a continuous presence in the land for the past 3,300 years. 4. The only Arab dominion since the conquest in 635 CE lasted no more than 22 years. 5. For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when the Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their capital, and Arab leaders did not come to visit. 6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in Tanach, the Jewish Holy Scriptures. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran. 7. King David founded the city of Jerusalem. Mohammad never came to Jerusalem. 8. Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray with their backs toward Jerusalem. 9. In 1948 the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders promising to purge the land of Jews. Sixty-eight percent left without ever seeing an Israeli soldier. 10. The Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab lands due to Arab brutality, persecution, and slaughter. 11. The number of Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is estimated to be around 630,000. The number of Jewish refugees from Arab lands is estimated to be the same. 12. Arab refugees were intentionally not absorbed or integrated into the Arab lands to which they fled, despite the vast Arab territory. Out of the 100,000,000 refugees since World War II, theirs is the only refugee group in the world that has never been absorbed or integrated into their own people's lands. Jewish refugees were completely absorbed into Israel, a country no larger than the state of New Jersey. 13. The Arabs are represented by eight separate nations, not including the Palestinians. There is only one Jewish nation. The Arab nations initiated all five wars and lost. Israel defended itself each time and won. 14. The PLO's Charter still calls for the destruction of the State of Israel. Israel has given the Palestinians most of the West Bank land, autonomy under the Palestinian Authority, and has supplied them. 15. Under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were desecrated and the Jews were denied access to places of worship. Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian sites have been preserved and made accessible to people of all faiths. 16. The UN Record on Israel and the Arabs: of the 175 Security Council resolutions passed before 1990, 97 were directed against Israel. 17. Of the 690 General Assembly resolutions voted on before 1990, 429 were directed against Israel. 18. The UN was silent while 58 Jerusalem Synagogues were destroyed by the Jordanians. 19. The UN was silent while the Jordanians systematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives. 20. The UN was silent while the Jordanians enforced an apartheid-like a policy of preventing Jews from visiting the Temple Mount and the Western Wall.