Gotta hire from within or go get a guy who runs the same system. Nobody though Saleh or Demeco were going to do as well as they did, but they've both got their own teams now.
@@googleisskynet7312 or do what reid did and accept that a guy like spags knew better and steve wasnt allowed to bring in any of his own people why didnt kyle hire from within in the first place? larry asks why steve has done a ton of short stints in different places....a lot of that has to do with the situations he is brought into
That wasn't Steve Wilks defense out there, he's never ran this scheme before. That's why he kept calling zero blitz, when we as fans know Niners get pressure with the front four an occasional safty blitz. Wish Wilks the best, but he's better off
Facts the nfl made the niners do the opposite of their play style on defense and offense so they can lose and they made sure to show you the fake green law injury they can’t make it up any better for you fanboys.
We can't go back to replay the Super Bowl. This is a move for next year. Do you want to keep Wilks, which took the same defense, that was #1 last year to #12 this year? We have to get to the playoffs and face teams like Detroit and the Packers next year again. Those games our defense allowed over 60 points in 2 games. We have to win those first. Then worry about the Super Bowl when we get there.
The defense was figured out by the end of the game, which I figured would happen based on what I saw all season. But when he gives you 9 drives against Mahomes and he holds him to 6 points and you only score 10 and don’t grow your lead? Thats all on Shanahan. If you give Mahomes and Andy Reid chance after chance to try again and figure out what works against what you’re calling, they’re gonna figure it out.
Scapegoating Steve is real low. I wish Steve got the same kind of opportunity Kyle gets. It aint hard to understand though ... Steve or his defense didn't lose this Super Bowl but Kyle did! Tied up 16 to 16 with 2:00 left in the game Kyle crapped the bed. 4 yards with 2 plays available for a Super Bowl Title ... make it make sense somebody. Kyle get 4 yards we're not in overtime. Kyle gave that Championship away and Andy Reid and the Chiefs said Thank You Kid!
You’re right. Kyle just needed to run CMC behind Williams on the toss sweep left and KC loses the game. KC blitzed on nine 3rd downs and Kyle was trying to pass when he could have easily run the ball.
Kinda agree , you don’t have a dominant team without a decent DC which Niners had. I would blame special teams for not alerting his runner that the ball was muffed. Then dude forgets to just focus on falling on the ball. That was the death blow in an otherwise closely matched contest.
With the best tackle and best fullback and best blocking te and best blocking Wrs and best running back and they decided to throw the ball with no protection🤦🏻♂️
@@Fernando_616 In the end, they both failed. Someone needs to be held accountable, and Wilks is of course the guy who is going to get fired between the two of them.
The team was sunk after Greenlaw tore his achillis. The middle was open from then on. Reminds me of when Navarro Bowman tore his knee on the previous SB run.
The defense was figured out by the end of the game, which I figured would happen based on what I saw all season. But when Wilks gives you 9 drives against Mahomes and he holds him to 6 points and you only score 10 and don’t grow your lead? Thats all on Shanahan. If you give Mahomes and Andy Reid chance after chance to try again and figure out what works against what you’re calling, they’re gonna figure it out.
What about the stupid 3rd down blitz against KC on their game-winning drive in OT. Romo was like WTF was that? It was *after* that stupid call that Kyle overrode Wilks when he was about to dial up ANOTHER untimely blitz. It was odd, because before that the Niners D plan and execution was probably better than anyone had dared hoped for. Goes to show that Wilks's weakness was calling the right play in the right *situation*. Ironically, this is Kyle's weakness as well, but we all know Kyle is not demoting himself or going anywhere.
Larry’s numbers are different than Lombardi’s whose stats show the run defense dropped from 2nd to 17th. That’s the reason why they made a change Plus the Nick Bosa quote about not being prepared does not help.
You called it Larry. I also noticed some bad blood during game between Kyle and Steve as you mentioned. That timeout Kyle took to help reshape defense you could see him yelling into mic probably at Wilks? Good stuff Larry 🙌🏻
@@edward2497 I don't believe this is the case. When you're an Offensive guy and can easily find ways to defeat your defensive guy... you know you need a new defensive guy. This was the case. Wilks was gone regardless of the SB outcome. Not giving Kyle a pass, just watching football and seeing the issues the D had on critical downs.
Please don't promote some in-house assistant defensive guy. Vrabel, Belichick, or Pete Carrol (who grew up in Larkspur) if any are willing to take a coordinator position.
There were many times this season when I thought Steve Wilks should be fired and he may merit being let go today. I just don't think he is the sole reason we lost the Super Bowl and he should not be scapegoated as such. I hope we can find an upgrade at this late hour.
Annnddddd!!!! I wouldn't be surprised if the Cowboys won another one before us to, possibly next season, which would be extremely aggravating!!! But the 49ers aren't the only team in the NFL that's overdue for a Super Bowl victory. The 49er's organization might have to learn the hard way. They are going to wear this SB loss for a long time!!!
With the talent they had, they should have been basically No. 1 across the board but they weren't. It was pretty frustrating watching them get picked apart against some of the better teams they played this year. It was apparent that Reid had their number in the SB, some player mistakes were made sure, but it seemed to me they were completely out schemed.
Points matter in the NFL not yards, that's for fantasy football, teams didn't score a lot of points vs the niners, kyle has a great track record of picking DCs so he gets a pass right now, but he has to hire the right guy
@@nateschad I don't care about fantasy football, and I don't care about points, wins and losses are all that matter. Good stats tend to follow wins, and mediocre play tends to lead to bad stats. The 49ers would play great 90% of the time, then play like trash in key situations. Sure some of those were mistakes made by players, but anecdotally it seemed that other teams could just pick them apart in the flats and over the middle in key situations.
@@williereynolds6241 Sure, but injuries happen and they still do have what is basically a first year QB with limited experience. Two different things can be true at the same time...
@@TB-ni4ur you don’t let someone implement there system (that was Wilks fault) and you hold them accountable. Kyle system has been implemented for years. Brock has played what 20+ regular season games and 3 full playoff games. The 2nd year QB thing doesn’t fly with me bcuz of that and bcuz they called him the real deal. The Real Deal and the Offensive Genius should be able to score more than 17 points. Just my opinion
Andy Reid failed the SB in Philly and failed with Alex Smith and didnt win SB until he upgraded to Mahomes and got Spag as DC. Experience (SB) matters. Now that Wiks is gone, hired a experienced upgraded DC and ugrade the RG RT through FA and draft or lose again, NO OTHER CHOICE, YOU GET BETTER OR YOU GET WORSE.
Hire Bill Belichick. Always had good defense with less talent. Shut down the Rams in SB and changes game plans for different opponents. Kyle needs to all in next season. If it works with Bill as DC, he’ll get a HC job. Benefits both sides.
Bill would never do this. His ultimate goal is to break Shula’s record and he’s not going back to being a DC. He only did that for Parcells who is his mentor and had more knowledge than him at the time.
Niners need a D coordinator who can help stop the run.Wilks was also DB guy and look where it got the team against teams with good running attack Can Bilicheck help the run D?
He is also best at managing a game and being buttoned in big games ... he us also good at making sure his players know the RULES ... always a step ahead in game time decisions
I'd be interested to see what the final snap count was... Defenders on both sides were definitely feeling fatigue. My gut says that KC, despite giving Chris Jones more snaps in Charles Omenihu's absence, had the deeper rotation, and the Chiefs had tricks up their sleeve to exploit the fatigue. EDIT: No one cares about Harry's love affair with the Chiefs. The KC D takes me back to the days of Albert Lewis, Kevin Ross, Lloyd Burruss, in that late '80s and early '90s span. Dale Carter, Mark Collins, ... I'm sure I missed some guys. But they could line up anywhere, including 6, 7, or 8 guys up on the line, and when they brought it, they were dominant. They could also drop in coverage for the change-up, and get to the QB with 3 or 4 pass rushers, because half the O-Line would be blocking air, they were so worried about blitzers that never blitzed.
I mean how do you go from in 2022 #1 Ranked Defense and then go in on 2023 have a #26 Ranked Defense. Thats a big discrepancy 😂😂😂 also Larry please talk about how Wilks called a Cover Zero Blitz then Shanny saw that and called a timeout.
What are you talking about? The 49ers ranked 3rd in scoring defense. Ranked 3rd in rushing defense per game and 14th in pass defense. They were much better than 26th ranked defense.
Yeah him and the sfniners channel he always seem excited when niners make a terrible decision like trade to Dallas and now firing Steve he just never has anything bad to say about this organization and their terrible decisions he's always actually excited
You're not wrong about occasionally seeing the coverage and rush not married up. I watch a ton of football, not just the Niners, and I see that with other teams as well. Very frustrating to see Bosa or another Niner about to get home with a sack only to have the QB flip it out to a player with the defender several yards off. That being said, I've seen this happen with the Niners in past years as well - the games vs Arizona (game 2 vs them) and Packers in 2021, you'll see plenty of examples. Regarding that call vs the Vikings near the end of the half, I wonder how many people would honestly question that call if Charvarius comes up with the interception and returns it to set up a FG for the Niners instead of having the ball stripped away from him by Addison for the TD. Can you honestly say you wouldn't be praising the guts of that call? Remember, at the time, the Vikings were moving the ball against the Niners very well. Hmmmmmm??
the Lions game, the Ravens loss, as well as the 3-game losing streak, was proof enough for me that Wilks needed to go. the Defense has talented players, probably MORE than any team in the nfl. YET, they couldn’t stop the run, and they needed to trade for Chase Young after that 3-game losing streak.
Seriously? During the 3 game loosing streak the offense (with the next coming of Joe and the offensive genius) only averaged what 17pts. Against the Ravens Brock threw what 3 picks but all of this was on the defense?? With 4 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter of the SB the defense had only given up 6pts. Through that same timeframe (the second coming of Joe and the offensive genius) only scored 10.
@@DS94everXev yea you’re not worth debating. If putting everything on the defense bcuz your boy wonders (Kyle and Brock) couldn’t come through. Most team’s offenses are really good the league is an offensive league. You have all that talent on the offense and can’t score 21 to win. An during that skid the defense gave up over 22 once. But hey the defense is to blame. Be serious, have a great day
It hurts. But Kyl and Steve weren't in sync. I thought Saleh was going to get fired and come back home. Steve does have a pt he couldn't hire his defensive staff. Rex Ryan inquired about the Dallas Cowboys job, Mike Vrabel, and Bill Belchick
Yep. No Greenlaw & KS not putting points on the board on mulipltle 3 and outs, abandoning the run when needed! If Moody didn't miss the extra point! This is on coach KS period. I wish Wilks the best also
I think they'll elevate somebody internally with previous experience using the wide 9 but I love the idea of bringing in Bill Belichick. If for no other reason than to prove Grant wrong and get you a $200 bottle of wine 😂
Pause 2:44. Kyle wants to keep the same system. But he just fired the Defensive Coordinator smh. Wth was the reason for firing wilks if you're going to keep the same system?
Will Krueger predication come true?? Is it possible that Bill Belichick will be the niners new defensive coordinator?? I didn’t believe Krueger predication at first but I do now. I think maybe Bill said yes or someone else has been picked as he let Wilkes go quickly.
Those numbers you just gave are not the most accurate. The run defense was 26 in the league. You can't count great offense and possession time to fewer defense yards allowed and think that's a good metric
When you look at the whole season as a grading scale it’s not as bad as people are making it seem. The corner play/ pass defense seemed a lot better, this defense used to give up big plays often. Overall, I think it’s fair for Wills to leave i don’t think he fit the persona this defense is used to.
Sorry, Wilks wasn’t the problem. Shannihan didn’t run behind all pro Trent Williams when he had KC on the ropes and it cost them the Super Bowl. Fire Shannihan he’s the one who can’t get his offense to work against good teams. Hire BB and they win multiple super bowls.
Wilks wasn’t the greatest hired but at the SB he did pretty well but it’s Shanahan fault for calling some mind blowing plays when it matter most. Wish Shanahan would fire himself too
Kyle Shanahan ego is to big that he can't handle or take ppl advice. Mike Shanahan won with Broncos because of Elway and Terell Davis. Shanahan never learned from his mistakes. If it wouldn't be for Purdy, he would get blown out by the Chiefs
Stats can be very misleading. Remember KC Chiefs had 19 pts, four of them FGs, and two FGs were 53 and 56 yards. Bottom line the blame for the loss goes all around to everyone.
Unique situation, with enough talent to play great defense without over-complicating things. That way, you can plug in athletic talent and bring them along quickly, and you can rotate guys without needing everybody down the depth chart to be a genius. That was sort of the Vince Lombardi model and the Jimmy Johnson model. The Cowboys didn't really trick anybody. They just kept it simple and executed at an insanely high level. Today's game is played at such a high level, though, you still have to mix up who's coming and from where. The Chiefs, partly by good fortune, but largely by conscious decision, have a group of guys on defense with football IQs in the 200s. Anybody might be the blitzer, and every one's a strong finisher. I was worried when they let Charvarious Ward go to San Francisco, because he was all-around and had great instincts and physicality to also shut down the run to his side. Terrific in the red zone, where he could cover clear to the end line. On a longer field, he had something to fear, maybe, but not in scoring position, which was why he was such a big loss, or so I thought. But the 2022 draft class is pretty legendary for KC DBs. They've got 5, maybe 6 guys just finishing their 2nd years of 4-year rookie deals. Maybe 7 if you count Chamarri Conner, who was drafted in 2023, and appeared in SB LVIII. I still like Charvarious Ward. He was worth a whole lot to a very good team, and he made more than he could have as a Chief. But who could've guessed that McDuffie, Cook, Watson, and to a somewhat lesser extent, Williams, were going to have such a positive impact on the KC defense, so early in their careers? KC also made some good FA pickups along the way, like Justin Reid and Mike Edwards. Sneed was a great draft pick for them, now in his contract year, ready to cash in. He might be hard for them to hold onto. Can they hold on to Chris Jones without breaking the bank? How good will Cook be, coming off the season-ending injury? Boy, Tershawn Wharton came back in 2023-24 with a roar. #98 got a lot of playing time, and played very well for them, coming off an ACL in 2022 season.
Krueg, what is it about lutter that has been making you hard, cause Everytime I saw him on the field he was screwing up or commiting a penalty. You got far more experience than me in the scouting side, but I spent many years playing and coaching dbs and I just don't see it with that kid.
There is no need to do this. Does somebody have to pay the price for losing one game. Nobody needed to get fired. They are still a great team, coaches and players.
Bad play calling, all star defensive players always seem to be out of position. Don’t put a spy on Mahomes, he’d never take off. Wilkes was suppose to be a secondary specialist yet the Niners secondary seemed to always be chasing receivers due to being out of position. I question Kyle not going for a TD be a FG
The Packers and Lions games did it. Statistically the 2023 defense was very good but it is loaded with talent. Wilks could’ve run his style if the D was top 3 in the regular season and even better in the playoffs.
Tbf the Packers game could partly be blamed on the rain. There was at least 3x a defender gave up a big play coz he slipped so his man got free. No excuses for the 1st half of the Lions game tho, especially that opening drive
Hey My FRIEND Larry Who is Kyle Shanahan going to Blame Next for his Failures maybe Someone Should buy Him a Grate Big Mirror So He Can See The One Who Screwed Up and point The finger Where it Belongs. 😁
Belichick would be great but he would have to humble himself a lot ,they should bring him in as coordinator and assistant head coach.Then Kyle would have to humble himself some to I think that would really unite this team you would show your all in on winning a championship.
I hope all yall spoiled Niner fans that wanted Wilks out happy now! That man did a good job for it to be his first season. This organization will never have any good luck with the front office making bone head decisions. Like whoever Kyle crybaby ass hire next as the DC gotta win a Superbowl point blank. Smh
That last drive by the Chiefs was a joke. I turned to a friend and told him the niners defense wants to lose this game. Why were they playing so far off the wide receivers? I have never seen that strategy work! Ever! If the defensive players cannot keep up with the wide receivers then get new players. Mahomes will eat you alive with 7 or 8 yard passes which he did.
Bring friggin' Robert Saleh back here! Screw the Jets. DeMeco has a bright future as a head coach in Houston, but Saleh can help us win a SB next year. The window is closing. This year was our best shot but next year might be our last shot for a while.
I think we should fire Shanahan and hire Chip Kelly. Or maybe Tomsula? I really don't enjoy being in superbowl contention year in and year out. I much prefer being at the bottom of the nfc west.
I get the ‘disconnect’, but damn… this looks really bad. The defense held Mahomes under 20 for 74:57. The offense stalled throughout the playoffs and was unprepared for the blitz against a Steve Spagnuolo defense. And Bananahands is like; “fuckin’ defense fucked us!” Really, dude?
@@carlsoto1747 The context is that the offense was worse than the defense. Of course nothing will change there because that’s Shannahan’s baby and ‘every play is different’, so Wilkes is the scapegoat. Also calm the fuck down. Are you Kyle? Why are you so mad about me pointing out the fact that the offense was much worse than the defense?
@@hughtoob9940 Steve Wilks took a top 3 defense and made it worse. His defensive line was not married to the coverage and QBs were able to take advantage of it all season, and his defense routinely gave up 3rd-and-long conversations this year. You can be pissed at Kyle for not running the ball, for not allowing Purdy to change protections at the line, and for not investing in a quality OL, but quit acting like Steve Wilks made one of the most talented defenses in the league better. A quarter of the league runs some interaction of the Shanahan offense, his staff is routinely poached every year, and 30 other teams would line up to sign him if he left the 49ers. When you call for the head of one of the best HCs in the league it makes you sound like a casual fan that knows nothing about ball
From #2 to #26 DVOA in run defense Larry. The move had to be made. I knew it wasn’t gonna work because I watched Wilks piss away a possible playoff shot with his coverage vs Mike Evans in the finale last season. Posted it on X. Bad fit.
Shanahan of course takes zero accountability for his 3rd 10 point plus loss in Super Bowls, not saying Wilkes didn’t do wrong as well but the head coach is ultimately responsible for wins and losses.
Bill Belecheck would be great but I dont think his ego would allow him to take a DC position. He wants to run the entire show. Vrabel seems more realistic.
Shanahan should fire the guy that stares at him in the mirror every morning. Offensive false starts and lack of adjustments to man coverage got them behind the sticks far too often and Shanahan absolutely rotted on the bone in the 3rd QTR. Meanwhile, the Wilks led defense had two key takeaways and held KC to one TD in regulation. That only after a special teams turnover deep in Niner territory. Not to mention it had 3 sacks, and bottled up Mahomes for much of the game.
Kyle holds Wilks accountable while Kyle doesn’t apologize and own up to his mistakes. Is everyone else’s fault but him.
if the dc is not allowed to bring in any of his own ideas....how are they going to woo top tier talent?
Gotta hire from within or go get a guy who runs the same system. Nobody though Saleh or Demeco were going to do as well as they did, but they've both got their own teams now.
@@googleisskynet7312 or do what reid did and accept that a guy like spags knew better
and steve wasnt allowed to bring in any of his own people
why didnt kyle hire from within in the first place?
larry asks why steve has done a ton of short stints in different places....a lot of that has to do with the situations he is brought into
Another reason why Shanahan S U C K S!!
That wasn't Steve Wilks defense out there, he's never ran this scheme before. That's why he kept calling zero blitz, when we as fans know Niners get pressure with the front four an occasional safty blitz. Wish Wilks the best, but he's better off
Facts the nfl made the niners do the opposite of their play style on defense and offense so they can lose and they made sure to show you the fake green law injury they can’t make it up any better for you fanboys.
I’m going to have nightmares about that zero blitz he keeps running.
The zero blitz never worked
Brilliant analysis. Great solution
Good stuff as usual, Larry, I wish we were talking about a win.
In the 3 phases of the game in SB LVIII, the defense performed the best--except for the last play of the game--the straw that broke the camel's back.
Except for the last two drives you mean
@@Fernando_616except for the last two playoff games and the last two drives of the game
We can't go back to replay the Super Bowl. This is a move for next year. Do you want to keep Wilks, which took the same defense, that was #1 last year to #12 this year? We have to get to the playoffs and face teams like Detroit and the Packers next year again. Those games our defense allowed over 60 points in 2 games. We have to win those first. Then worry about the Super Bowl when we get there.
The defense was figured out by the end of the game, which I figured would happen based on what I saw all season. But when he gives you 9 drives against Mahomes and he holds him to 6 points and you only score 10 and don’t grow your lead? Thats all on Shanahan. If you give Mahomes and Andy Reid chance after chance to try again and figure out what works against what you’re calling, they’re gonna figure it out.
@@gman8177 Kyle needs to go also! I don’t see us making it back to a Super Bowl
Scapegoating Steve is real low. I wish Steve got the same kind of opportunity Kyle gets. It aint hard to understand though ... Steve or his defense didn't lose this Super Bowl but Kyle did! Tied up 16 to 16 with 2:00 left in the game Kyle crapped the bed. 4 yards with 2 plays available for a Super Bowl Title ... make it make sense somebody. Kyle get 4 yards we're not in overtime. Kyle gave that Championship away and Andy Reid and the Chiefs said Thank You Kid!
Wilks gave up our lead twice, get real
You’re right. Kyle just needed to run CMC behind Williams on the toss sweep left and KC loses the game. KC blitzed on nine 3rd downs and Kyle was trying to pass when he could have easily run the ball.
Kinda agree , you don’t have a dominant team without a decent DC which Niners had. I would blame special teams for not alerting his runner that the ball was muffed. Then dude forgets to just focus on falling on the ball. That was the death blow in an otherwise closely matched contest.
With the best tackle and best fullback and best blocking te and best blocking Wrs and best running back and they decided to throw the ball with no protection🤦🏻♂️
@@Fernando_616 In the end, they both failed. Someone needs to be held accountable, and Wilks is of course the guy who is going to get fired between the two of them.
The team was sunk after Greenlaw tore his achillis. The middle was open from then on.
Reminds me of when Navarro Bowman tore his knee on the previous SB run.
Sadly, Greenlaw will never be the same.
@@DeeTruth415 no one is the same after an Achilles injury and now we have to find his replacement in the draft
Don’t sleep on dee winters
@@ericxsmackz2099 They never gave him a chance
I loved that guy at TCU.
That was part of the script that’s why they purposely kept the camera on them when he got hurt 🤔 only fanboys believe this crap 💩
The defense was figured out by the end of the game, which I figured would happen based on what I saw all season. But when Wilks gives you 9 drives against Mahomes and he holds him to 6 points and you only score 10 and don’t grow your lead? Thats all on Shanahan. If you give Mahomes and Andy Reid chance after chance to try again and figure out what works against what you’re calling, they’re gonna figure it out.
Shanny needs to answer for that.
Let’s revamp the oline and secondary
What about the stupid 3rd down blitz against KC on their game-winning drive in OT. Romo was like WTF was that? It was *after* that stupid call that Kyle overrode Wilks when he was about to dial up ANOTHER untimely blitz. It was odd, because before that the Niners D plan and execution was probably better than anyone had dared hoped for. Goes to show that Wilks's weakness was calling the right play in the right *situation*. Ironically, this is Kyle's weakness as well, but we all know Kyle is not demoting himself or going anywhere.
Larry’s numbers are different than Lombardi’s whose stats show the run defense dropped from 2nd to 17th. That’s the reason why they made a change
Plus the Nick Bosa quote about not being prepared does not help.
Congrats on the near 40k. This time next year you will have more than any Bay Area sports content creator.
Him and Chase
Something just had to change. How could you have hope for next season if nothing changed after losing the Super Bowl.
THE LAST THREE PLAYOFF GAMES. THAT'S WHY HE IS FIRED.
You called it Larry. I also noticed some bad blood during game between Kyle and Steve as you mentioned. That timeout Kyle took to help reshape defense you could see him yelling into mic probably at Wilks? Good stuff Larry 🙌🏻
He was already planning on scapegoating him at this point, so,he did this dramatic gesture to,call attention to,it
@@edward2497 I don't believe this is the case. When you're an Offensive guy and can easily find ways to defeat your defensive guy... you know you need a new defensive guy. This was the case. Wilks was gone regardless of the SB outcome. Not giving Kyle a pass, just watching football and seeing the issues the D had on critical downs.
I hope they fire OC too he's horrible at making in game adjustments.Damn we can't he's the head coach.
Do we get comp picks for tapp and Lynn?
Steve Wilks had more stops in his career than Josh Johnson....Think about that for one moment
Please don't promote some in-house assistant defensive guy. Vrabel, Belichick, or Pete Carrol (who grew up in Larkspur) if any are willing to take a coordinator position.
but they need their own staff ,does shan allow that cus he didn't give wilks that
There were many times this season when I thought Steve Wilks should be fired and he may merit being let go today. I just don't think he is the sole reason we lost the Super Bowl and he should not be scapegoated as such. I hope we can find an upgrade at this late hour.
Gave up the final td drive to Mahomes, inexcusable. Same as fail RG RT play, must ugrade first and foremost.
Freaking Cowboys have won a Super Bowl more recently than San Fran!! San Fran keeps wasting opportunities!!!
Annnddddd!!!! I wouldn't be surprised if the Cowboys won another one before us to, possibly next season, which would be extremely aggravating!!! But the 49ers aren't the only team in the NFL that's overdue for a Super Bowl victory. The 49er's organization might have to learn the hard way. They are going to wear this SB loss for a long time!!!
With the talent they had, they should have been basically No. 1 across the board but they weren't. It was pretty frustrating watching them get picked apart against some of the better teams they played this year. It was apparent that Reid had their number in the SB, some player mistakes were made sure, but it seemed to me they were completely out schemed.
Points matter in the NFL not yards, that's for fantasy football, teams didn't score a lot of points vs the niners, kyle has a great track record of picking DCs so he gets a pass right now, but he has to hire the right guy
Was it not frustrating watching the offense not show up in those games?
@@nateschad I don't care about fantasy football, and I don't care about points, wins and losses are all that matter. Good stats tend to follow wins, and mediocre play tends to lead to bad stats. The 49ers would play great 90% of the time, then play like trash in key situations. Sure some of those were mistakes made by players, but anecdotally it seemed that other teams could just pick them apart in the flats and over the middle in key situations.
@@williereynolds6241 Sure, but injuries happen and they still do have what is basically a first year QB with limited experience. Two different things can be true at the same time...
@@TB-ni4ur you don’t let someone implement there system (that was Wilks fault) and you hold them accountable. Kyle system has been implemented for years. Brock has played what 20+ regular season games and 3 full playoff games. The 2nd year QB thing doesn’t fly with me bcuz of that and bcuz they called him the real deal. The Real Deal and the Offensive Genius should be able to score more than 17 points. Just my opinion
Andy Reid failed the SB in Philly and failed with Alex Smith and didnt win SB until he upgraded to Mahomes and got Spag as DC. Experience (SB) matters. Now that Wiks is gone, hired a experienced upgraded DC and ugrade the RG RT through FA and draft or lose again, NO OTHER CHOICE, YOU GET BETTER OR YOU GET WORSE.
Hire Bill Belichick. Always had good defense with less talent. Shut down the Rams in SB and changes game plans for different opponents. Kyle needs to all in next season. If it works with Bill as DC, he’ll get a HC job. Benefits both sides.
Bill would never do this. His ultimate goal is to break Shula’s record and he’s not going back to being a DC. He only did that for Parcells who is his mentor and had more knowledge than him at the time.
Why do people think Bill will take an assistant coaching job? That sounds like complete nonsense
Bill Bilichick is the one that stopped the 49ers getting the three peat.
That Giants D was tough.
Radio mentioned it . Couldn't tell if it was past tense or projection. I was flipping.
it had to happen!! pete carroll should be first call!
Niners need a D coordinator who can help stop the run.Wilks was also DB guy and look where it got the team against teams with good running attack
Can Bilicheck help the run D?
He is also best at managing a game and being buttoned in big games ... he us also good at making sure his players know the RULES ... always a step ahead in game time decisions
That's a great point wanna get your team out of superbowl slump an back in your corner hiring Belicheck will def set the tone!💡
He wants an asst coaching job why?
We play NE next season also, great reason for BB to hop on
Why would bb take an asst coach job?
@@kenw2225 ring #7
it wouldn't work, too much ego in the room
@@dan-jo9ms Kyle isn't in the room
Major disconnect! He’s moved around more than a U-Haul truck in summer time.
What about our third down defense?
I'd be interested to see what the final snap count was... Defenders on both sides were definitely feeling fatigue. My gut says that KC, despite giving Chris Jones more snaps in Charles Omenihu's absence, had the deeper rotation, and the Chiefs had tricks up their sleeve to exploit the fatigue.
EDIT: No one cares about Harry's love affair with the Chiefs.
The KC D takes me back to the days of Albert Lewis, Kevin Ross, Lloyd Burruss, in that late '80s and early '90s span. Dale Carter, Mark Collins, ... I'm sure I missed some guys. But they could line up anywhere, including 6, 7, or 8 guys up on the line, and when they brought it, they were dominant. They could also drop in coverage for the change-up, and get to the QB with 3 or 4 pass rushers, because half the O-Line would be blocking air, they were so worried about blitzers that never blitzed.
You ought to talk to Lombardi and get some kind of agreement on the defensive rankings against the run.
I mean how do you go from in 2022 #1 Ranked Defense and then go in on 2023 have a #26 Ranked Defense. Thats a big discrepancy 😂😂😂 also Larry please talk about how Wilks called a Cover Zero Blitz then Shanny saw that and called a timeout.
What are you talking about? The 49ers ranked 3rd in scoring defense. Ranked 3rd in rushing defense per game and 14th in pass defense. They were much better than 26th ranked defense.
@@tflo75 I meant run Defense
Larry is such a company man nowadays. Hard to take him seriously as he seems so blinkered at times.
Yeah him and the sfniners channel he always seem excited when niners make a terrible decision like trade to Dallas and now firing Steve he just never has anything bad to say about this organization and their terrible decisions he's always actually excited
After you listen to multiple adverts up front@@AlexanderThaGreat
Spot on take. A BB move would REIGNITE this team and be ENORMOUS in FA acquisition / retention. This is how you fight back.
You're not wrong about occasionally seeing the coverage and rush not married up. I watch a ton of football, not just the Niners, and I see that with other teams as well. Very frustrating to see Bosa or another Niner about to get home with a sack only to have the QB flip it out to a player with the defender several yards off. That being said, I've seen this happen with the Niners in past years as well - the games vs Arizona (game 2 vs them) and Packers in 2021, you'll see plenty of examples.
Regarding that call vs the Vikings near the end of the half, I wonder how many people would honestly question that call if Charvarius comes up with the interception and returns it to set up a FG for the Niners instead of having the ball stripped away from him by Addison for the TD. Can you honestly say you wouldn't be praising the guts of that call? Remember, at the time, the Vikings were moving the ball against the Niners very well. Hmmmmmm??
the Lions game, the Ravens loss, as well as the 3-game losing streak, was proof enough for me that Wilks needed to go.
the Defense has talented players, probably MORE than any team in the nfl. YET, they couldn’t stop the run, and they needed to trade for Chase Young after that 3-game losing streak.
Seriously? During the 3 game loosing streak the offense (with the next coming of Joe and the offensive genius) only averaged what 17pts. Against the Ravens Brock threw what 3 picks but all of this was on the defense?? With 4 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter of the SB the defense had only given up 6pts. Through that same timeframe (the second coming of Joe and the offensive genius) only scored 10.
Yeah darth virgin is clueless and probably a virgin at watching football
@@williereynolds6241And a great D should win games when we score 17.
The D NEEDED us to score 30 to win.
We didn't vs KC.
We lost.
@@DS94everXev yea you’re not worth debating. If putting everything on the defense bcuz your boy wonders (Kyle and Brock) couldn’t come through. Most team’s offenses are really good the league is an offensive league. You have all that talent on the offense and can’t score 21 to win. An during that skid the defense gave up over 22 once. But hey the defense is to blame. Be serious, have a great day
@@DS94everXev your a goofy
I wonder how this year's defense stacks up versus past years.
Very good question because Robert saleh allowed 21 points in 6 min vs chiefs and no one blinked an eye 👀
@@AlexanderThaGreatdid that multiple times in that season as well
Demeco also gave up 42 pts to the Chiefs in a reg season 2022 game
It hurts. But Kyl and Steve weren't in sync. I thought Saleh was going to get fired and come back home. Steve does have a pt he couldn't hire his defensive staff. Rex Ryan inquired about the Dallas Cowboys job, Mike Vrabel, and Bill Belchick
Larry what about the guy just fired from Wash??Ron Rivera?? Not a good choice?
You and Grant called it, they fired Wilks after a SB loss to take the heat of Kyle and others.
"Sauron does not share power" (LOTR) Same for Shanahan. I'll believe Bill Belichick as DC when I see it.
Not a fan if wilks but that loss wasn't on him
Yep. No Greenlaw & KS not putting points on the board on mulipltle 3 and outs, abandoning the run when needed! If Moody didn't miss the extra point! This is on coach KS period. I wish Wilks the best also
I think they'll elevate somebody internally with previous experience using the wide 9 but I love the idea of bringing in Bill Belichick. If for no other reason than to prove Grant wrong and get you a $200 bottle of wine 😂
Shanahan stated that he needed 2 or 3 days to develop the SB game plan. Im sure they Chiefs took twice that time. It showed.
great work
The guy was 8 yards off the line of scrimmage in overtime? Why
Pause 2:44. Kyle wants to keep the same system. But he just fired the Defensive Coordinator smh. Wth was the reason for firing wilks if you're going to keep the same system?
Funny how alot of blacks complain that there's not enough of them in the NFL
Will Krueger predication come true?? Is it possible that Bill Belichick will be the niners new defensive coordinator?? I didn’t believe Krueger predication at first but I do now.
I think maybe Bill said yes or someone else has been picked as he let Wilkes go quickly.
Those numbers you just gave are not the most accurate. The run defense was 26 in the league. You can't count great offense and possession time to fewer defense yards allowed and think that's a good metric
When you look at the whole season as a grading scale it’s not as bad as people are making it seem. The corner play/ pass defense seemed a lot better, this defense used to give up big plays often. Overall, I think it’s fair for Wills to leave i don’t think he fit the persona this defense is used to.
Good, now we can go chase bill and hire him as our dc
What’s Pete carroll up to?
What will the excuse be next year. I keep hearing Shanahan is a great play caller but he couldn't come up with anything for 3rd and. 4, for the game
Sorry, Wilks wasn’t the problem. Shannihan didn’t run behind all pro Trent Williams when he had KC on the ropes and it cost them the Super Bowl. Fire Shannihan he’s the one who can’t get his offense to work against good teams. Hire BB and they win multiple super bowls.
Kocurek for DC?
Wilks wasn’t the greatest hired but at the SB he did pretty well but it’s Shanahan fault for calling some mind blowing plays when it matter most. Wish Shanahan would fire himself too
Not to mention he didn't know and prepare the team for OT rules
Kyle Shanahan ego is to big that he can't handle or take ppl advice. Mike Shanahan won with Broncos because of Elway and Terell Davis. Shanahan never learned from his mistakes. If it wouldn't be for Purdy, he would get blown out by the Chiefs
"Some heads are gonna roll." - Judas Priest.
Stats can be very misleading. Remember KC Chiefs had 19 pts, four of them FGs, and two FGs were 53 and 56 yards. Bottom line the blame for the loss goes all around to everyone.
Unique situation, with enough talent to play great defense without over-complicating things. That way, you can plug in athletic talent and bring them along quickly, and you can rotate guys without needing everybody down the depth chart to be a genius.
That was sort of the Vince Lombardi model and the Jimmy Johnson model. The Cowboys didn't really trick anybody. They just kept it simple and executed at an insanely high level.
Today's game is played at such a high level, though, you still have to mix up who's coming and from where.
The Chiefs, partly by good fortune, but largely by conscious decision, have a group of guys on defense with football IQs in the 200s. Anybody might be the blitzer, and every one's a strong finisher.
I was worried when they let Charvarious Ward go to San Francisco, because he was all-around and had great instincts and physicality to also shut down the run to his side. Terrific in the red zone, where he could cover clear to the end line. On a longer field, he had something to fear, maybe, but not in scoring position, which was why he was such a big loss, or so I thought.
But the 2022 draft class is pretty legendary for KC DBs. They've got 5, maybe 6 guys just finishing their 2nd years of 4-year rookie deals. Maybe 7 if you count Chamarri Conner, who was drafted in 2023, and appeared in SB LVIII.
I still like Charvarious Ward. He was worth a whole lot to a very good team, and he made more than he could have as a Chief. But who could've guessed that McDuffie, Cook, Watson, and to a somewhat lesser extent, Williams, were going to have such a positive impact on the KC defense, so early in their careers?
KC also made some good FA pickups along the way, like Justin Reid and Mike Edwards. Sneed was a great draft pick for them, now in his contract year, ready to cash in. He might be hard for them to hold onto.
Can they hold on to Chris Jones without breaking the bank? How good will Cook be, coming off the season-ending injury? Boy, Tershawn Wharton came back in 2023-24 with a roar. #98 got a lot of playing time, and played very well for them, coming off an ACL in 2022 season.
Let Belichick sleep with the fishes. He's not going to want to work under Shanahan nor do I think Shanahan wants him around
This
Yea. Bellichick not coming in as an assistant. I think it might be Staley.
The Niners need to fire the offensive coordinator as well. I know, EXACTLY!
He is a good coach but he had issues marrying coverages and the rush.
Krueg, what is it about lutter that has been making you hard, cause Everytime I saw him on the field he was screwing up or commiting a penalty. You got far more experience than me in the scouting side, but I spent many years playing and coaching dbs and I just don't see it with that kid.
There is no need to do this. Does somebody have to pay the price for losing one game. Nobody needed to get fired. They are still a great team, coaches and players.
Have bill become a defensive advisor he might do that
I just don’t see Bill Belichick being willing to be demoted to DC.
Our defense wasn't great it had good moments but those moments have to be more at times than fewer
Fire the choker too !!
Bad play calling, all star defensive players always seem to be out of position. Don’t put a spy on Mahomes, he’d never take off. Wilkes was suppose to be a secondary specialist yet the Niners secondary seemed to always be chasing receivers due to being out of position. I question Kyle not going for a TD be a FG
Draft 1sr round Oline. 2nd round Oline and 3rd round Oline. Sick of Purdy keeps getting laughable pass protection. Imagine Purdy playing behind Oline like Lions, Ravens, Eagles,etc
The Packers and Lions games did it. Statistically the 2023 defense was very good but it is loaded with talent. Wilks could’ve run his style if the D was top 3 in the regular season and even better in the playoffs.
Tbf the Packers game could partly be blamed on the rain. There was at least 3x a defender gave up a big play coz he slipped so his man got free. No excuses for the 1st half of the Lions game tho, especially that opening drive
I hope they fire OC too he's horrible at making in game adjustments.Damn we can't he's the head coach.
Sure blame Wilks!! Whatever makes you feel good!! Stephen A needs to switch from mocking the Cowboys to mocking San Fran !!
I like the decision to let him go
Why the hell would the most successful coach in NFL history accept a defensive coordinator job?
Hey My FRIEND Larry Who is Kyle Shanahan going to Blame Next for his Failures maybe Someone Should buy Him a Grate Big Mirror So He Can See The One Who Screwed Up and point The finger Where it Belongs. 😁
Belichick would be great but he would have to humble himself a lot ,they should bring him in as coordinator and assistant head coach.Then Kyle would have to humble himself some to I think that would really unite this team you would show your all in on winning a championship.
isnt bb 3-4? so is vrabel
I think if we win wilks is safe but those last 2 drives sealed it all the D had to do is get a stop and we win in regulation then again in ot
did Wilks forget to block Chris Jones?
I hope all yall spoiled Niner fans that wanted Wilks out happy now! That man did a good job for it to be his first season. This organization will never have any good luck with the front office making bone head decisions. Like whoever Kyle crybaby ass hire next as the DC gotta win a Superbowl point blank. Smh
That last drive by the Chiefs was a joke. I turned to a friend and told him the niners defense wants to lose this game. Why were they playing so far off the wide receivers? I have never seen that strategy work! Ever! If the defensive players cannot keep up with the wide receivers then get new players. Mahomes will eat you alive with 7 or 8 yard passes which he did.
Well it is what it is. You lose the Super Bowl someone is getting fired!
Bring friggin' Robert Saleh back here! Screw the Jets. DeMeco has a bright future as a head coach in Houston, but Saleh can help us win a SB next year. The window is closing. This year was our best shot but next year might be our last shot for a while.
Tbh I'd prefer a former HC like Vrabel than an internal promotion. Kyle needs someone who can help him with late game decisions
I think we should fire Shanahan and hire Chip Kelly. Or maybe Tomsula? I really don't enjoy being in superbowl contention year in and year out. I much prefer being at the bottom of the nfc west.
Belichek
Vrable
Pete Carroll
None of them are going to play under incompetent Shanahan, Kyle needs his daddy here.
I get the ‘disconnect’, but damn… this looks really bad. The defense held Mahomes under 20 for 74:57. The offense stalled throughout the playoffs and was unprepared for the blitz against a Steve Spagnuolo defense. And Bananahands is like; “fuckin’ defense fucked us!”
Really, dude?
Agree, 100%
The chiefs average like 20 pts a game this season. Maybe use some context in your rationale, instead of just talking out of your ass
@@carlsoto1747 The context is that the offense was worse than the defense. Of course nothing will change there because that’s Shannahan’s baby and ‘every play is different’, so Wilkes is the scapegoat.
Also calm the fuck down. Are you Kyle? Why are you so mad about me pointing out the fact that the offense was much worse than the defense?
@@hughtoob9940 Steve Wilks took a top 3 defense and made it worse. His defensive line was not married to the coverage and QBs were able to take advantage of it all season, and his defense routinely gave up 3rd-and-long conversations this year. You can be pissed at Kyle for not running the ball, for not allowing Purdy to change protections at the line, and for not investing in a quality OL, but quit acting like Steve Wilks made one of the most talented defenses in the league better. A quarter of the league runs some interaction of the Shanahan offense, his staff is routinely poached every year, and 30 other teams would line up to sign him if he left the 49ers.
When you call for the head of one of the best HCs in the league it makes you sound like a casual fan that knows nothing about ball
We call hope Belichick would be willing to be DC for one year and take a head coaching job next year. I wouldn’t bet on it.
From #2 to #26 DVOA in run defense Larry. The move had to be made. I knew it wasn’t gonna work because I watched Wilks piss away a possible playoff shot with his coverage vs Mike Evans in the finale last season. Posted it on X. Bad fit.
Shanahan of course takes zero accountability for his 3rd 10 point plus loss in Super Bowls, not saying Wilkes didn’t do wrong as well but the head coach is ultimately responsible for wins and losses.
Scape goated. I wish him well. The offense blew it.
Dude sucked is that you wilks?
Lynch should hire belicheck maybe replace Kyle also😌 down the road make shanny accountable also!
Bill Belecheck would be great but I dont think his ego would allow him to take a DC position. He wants to run the entire show. Vrabel seems more realistic.
Shanahan should fire the guy that stares at him in the mirror every morning.
Offensive false starts and lack of adjustments to man coverage got them behind the sticks far too often and Shanahan absolutely rotted on the bone in the 3rd QTR.
Meanwhile, the Wilks led defense had two key takeaways and held KC to one TD in regulation. That only after a special teams turnover deep in Niner territory. Not to mention it had 3 sacks, and bottled up Mahomes for much of the game.