5:03 Quick correction as someone who played diluc for a long time if diluc isn't plunging nowadays *all his DMG comes from his skill and burst* as his normals can do some DMG you don't want to completely only spam normals unless he's C6 Lastly diluc is probably the best at using kinich's weapon right now but dehya can also use it decently if you like her as a DPS
@@FacialFischl She has HP scaling alongside ATK especially at C1 as ATK isn't useless on her Its hard to build for a burgeon team for Dehya if she's built as a DPS but it is possible to use kinich's weapon in a burgeon team if you wanted to play that team differently I see kinich's weapon on dehya as a more high investment option if you have the artifacts and constellations for dehya function well as a DPS because with more cons on dehya the better kinich's weapon will be for her to use
@@FacialFischl Yep, that's the reason why she is so bad as a dps, you cant buff buff both with a team and her base values are so low that going full dmg% and crit buffs doen't do anything either.
It's just my thoughts,hoyo is foreshadowing with mavuika best weapon, kinich's fang will be the second best for mavuika or same level as her sig like how she did in game "your weapon is mine kinich"
the passive of it says it can be triggered from off field, and the archons are always geared towards off field sub dps/support so it’s definitely more than likely. the craftable might also be a good option since even moreso it’s the exact weapon she yoinked from kinich lmao
Freminet can easily stack and he can maintain the Fang of Mountain King stacks, if he is not interrupted to much. During his burst with every normal attack he deal a small Cryo Dmg, which is considering Elemental Skill dmg (more stack). Mika Attack speed buff is helping to gain more easily these stacks. With his rotation, E-skill, Burst, N2 then Skill, when the first big skill dmg hit, there is already 4 stack. Then repeat until the burst end: Skill-N2 -SKill After that the first Skill dmg in Burst, it's possible to keep the stack on 5-6 mostly, if there is not to much interruption. Sometime stack can go back to 4, but it's easy to get back the stack with the next 2N. The max dmg is higher with 6 stack then a WGS when the passive is active, with 5 stack is the same, but at least the Mountain King buff is reliable. I have C6 Freminet, get the Weapon for him, tested a good amount.
@@krumi_hazuki1440 No place for Xinyan. The team is C6 Freminet- C4 Mika with Noblesse (C6 in time)- C3 Furina- Shinobu with Tennacity and Kazuha Sword. Current max dmg with normal attack is 42K-44K, skill dmg 6 stack is 140K-5 stack is about 135K. With C6 Mika is expected about 50-51 K average Normal attack dmg and 170 K skill dmg with max stack. Attack without buff is 2040, CDM is 173% with 4 Pale Flame. The first skill during burst is never has max stack, the second has it as usually you start your rotation with skill, then busrt then N2-Skill then Skill-N2-Skill. So cuz of the burst after the First skill ,there is less time to w8 with your cooldown after the First Big skill dmg. The 2. Big skill dmg can has 6 stack. The 3. and last one usually has 5 stack, sometimes 6. Three big skill dmg is the usual what you can do during the Burst. You can replace Mika with Nahida, and you have a nice Hyperbloom team, Freminet only missing Mika Buff and Tennacity, and can be a Solid Driver. In Physical team Furina personal dmg is helping the team dmg also. But interrupption is really matter in the end. And sometimes enemy is dying before the Big hit, but Freminet still execute the Big skill dmg, baseball the Penguin into the air. But otherwise it's fun to play.
@@78hannibal51 Don't suppose you know how it would compare to Beacon of the Reed Sea for Freminet? I'm very tempted to pull Fang since I also got Kinich, but I've held back so far because I already pulled Beacon for Fremi on the Chroncled wish.
@@Photon-HL It's hard to evaluate. Freminet didn't had best in slot weapon, only contender. It can be depend from your team. Example if you have Mika Speed buff and Song of The Broken Pine and you can land more hit with the 2 Attack speed buff then this will/can be the best. Redhorn also can be the best if you are using with C5 Bennett, who makes up for the Attack buff, then Redhorn can be the best. If you have mixed and match teams then maybe Skyward Pride is the best in your team cuz of the 8x80% vacum blade dmg. Also Beacon of the Reed Sea Can be the best. Crit rate is always nice, but in his skill with C1 you have 15 crit rate bonus, if you have a second cryo unit in your team, that can give you 15 extra crit rate from cryo resonance too. Beacon passive is conditional. You cannot be shielded, or you loss that buff. Even without shield if the enemy is not hiting you (you are good at dodging) you also won't get the attack buff. Attack buff value is also less if you have a lot of other outside source like Bennett. Also can depend from your artifact sets. Maybe you cannot give Freminet enough crit rate without the Beacon of the Red Sea. Probably Fang of the Mountan King is the most versatile about teams, if you have Mika in your team, or at least one other attack speed buffer like Chongyun C2 or Jean C2 (in Furina Team), or Yun Jin C6. Without attack speed, less relliable is the stacking with the Mountain King, I think. Probably one less stack in general. Just for Freminet alone maybe i'ts not worth to pull the Fang, unless you want to give the highest dmg boost weapon for his skill and/or you have low attack buff option. Attakc buff can get from Bennett, Tennacity, Freedom Sworm, Noblesse. It's possible to buff Freminet with Song of the Day Past if someone has it. Freminet Normal attacks dmg is about 1/3 of his total dmg, so it's matter. Anything what can boost his normal attack can be good. There are options regarding weapons what can buff both, Normal attack and Skill dmg alike. So you have not just one option how you build him, what is the best for you. So overall, if you are satisfied with the Beacon in your team, then you don't have to pull for the Fang. But if you feel that you cannot activate the passive relaible, you can go for the Fang. Fang Value is in the big boost for the skill dmg. So you can use with Cryo DPS Freminet too (didn't tested how good with it thought). You also have Kinich thought. For him, the Fang is the Best in Slot weapon. So if you don't mind to swap weapon from Kinich to Freminet, when you are not using Kinich, then you can go for it. There is a different between Kinich signature and other weapons For Kinich himself. But also a good team can make up the different between these weapons
@@78hannibal51 Thanks for such a detailed response! I think I can get some value out of Fang since I can always just keep it on Kinich if it didn't work out on Fremi hehe. I tend to run Fremi on beacon right now with Raiden on Tenacity, C2 Furina, C2 Mika on Noblesse. I also run Freminet on an Atk goblet, 1) because the stats are just much better; and 2) Because I get a lot of dmg% from C2 Furina, Mika and 4pc Pale Flame. As it stands though I'm at a 71:195 crit ratio with Beacon, so If I were to use Fang, I do think my crit ratio would suffer a little, but there are a lot of variables to consider. It might just be one of those situations where I'd have to test both to determine which one is best for my build. Thank you for your help!! :)
Try a Burning Navia plunge team. It's the one I use, and I was debating getting this weapon specifically for that team. Navia, Emilie, Dehya, Xianyun (Xianyun also procs burning from pyro swirls so its more stacks for the passive)
this is one of the reason why i like the sky ward set of 5 star weapons. Sure they arent super good but anyone can use them and od god with them. I would love if character weapons had a more generic boost so more could use them but i get why they do this
Unforged is actually decent on kinich if you wanted to test that, and his sig is pretty good on beidou if you can slot her in a burning team idk why someone would but it’s a option lol.
Nope, the artifact set that’s made for him gives 40% and if you use his weapon plus 11% so 51% if you’re really unlucky with artifacts. If they did anymore than that i think it would be too much
@@EmmelusAANmualani ascends with crit rate and her weapon gives 88 crit dmg so it’s extremely easy to make her reach over 100crit rate and 200crit dmg with the same artifact set.
@@micaiah_smbdy crit is not everything. She scales off HP, so attack is useless for her. He scales off attack, and has the biggest attack scaling of the game. A 88% Crit damage weapon with 542 base attack would drop his damage.
@@Elia2Tu They only brought up Mualani because of how easy it is for her to overcap on Crit Rate because she ascends with Crit Rate and Obsidian Codex gives you 40%. Fang of the Mountain King AND Kinich's stats (he ascends with Crit DMG) are designed with that 40% boost in mind, which is why the Crit Rate is so low
u need to bring back the aesthetics section bc thats half of the reason why I (an most people I think) pull for weapons at least and it's always fun to look at
Correction on Noelle. Her damage scales off attack, but while her burst is active, she gets a massive attack buff based on her defense. It’s not a terrible weapon for her, but others are better
As a Ga-ming main myself since Lantern Rite and a beginner who doesn't fully understand scaling, I am so grateful you explained this in full detail. I have been pondering on this weapon for gaming since I got the weapon off the web event
The weapon from the event that’s the 4-star weapon would probably be good with Gaming, no? The weapon in the video is about Kinich’s 5-star signature though, not that event weapon.
specialist case, Dehya can used this weapon very well if she's placed into a burning based team , double Dendro , I try it with her, Emilie, and Yao Yao , together with a flex slot , which can be another Pyro or Anemo for the swirl
kinich reminds me of kayn of league of legends He has Ajaw that annoys him, just like Rhaast on Kayn His claymore looks like its alive, just like Kayn’s scythe They are both edgy characters
I think this weapon might be pretty decent for Eula and navia even without burning/burgeon teams. Navia has 2 e charges (i think u can actually squeeze in 3 elemental skill hits in some point(s) of her rotation(s)) and eula has to use her e skill twice during her rotation. (If u have c2 u can use it like 3 times I believe ). And like other characters, they can use marachausse (with furina) so the weapon only having 11% crit rate is fine. Its not their best option by any means, but I think it might be above or at minimum at least equal to most (refined ?) 4 star options. 🤔🤔 I very well could be wrong but if this is one of the only 5 star/good claymores u have for some reason. It might be worth it to try it on them.
@@moolan10 That's where Emilie comes in. Don't need to buff Navia's damage is Emilie just does it herself. But Emilie doesn't stack the best with Benny, since she doesn't snapshot. And it puts you in a situation where your Navia is either forgoing having geo resonance or the bonus from 2x PECHs.
Yep, that's it. I'm NEVER pulling on the weapon banner again. First, I lost to Lyney's bow for Arlecchino's, now I lost to Kinich's claymore, and I have absolutely no plans on pulling for him. I just don't understand why Hoyoverse can't just split the signature weapon banners like they did with HSR.
the weapon could work on Eula in a burgeon team with c6 Bennett she would be the one applying pyro and getting the stacks for her ult the team could be eula c6 Bennett emilie and any hydro applier
This is a bit of a weird team, but I use it, and I think it could make this weapon work on navia Team: bennett, navia, emily, xiangling She can get the stacks in this team, and she usually can use her skills before 6 seconds, but idk just a thought
Nah man i hate this game. First I lost 35% of Mualani's weapon in the last banner and then in this banner i grind for a whole week to get Raiden's weapon and lost it to this weapon. They have gotta do something about this weapon banner thing man, or I might quit this game ffs like i did a year ago
The sword can be indeed used for an Off-Field Dehya that can easily maintain 6 stacks tho in a burning team with E (wait 0.5s) E you're already at 5 /6 stacks at 1 second or so, with her other attack happening each 2.5s and each stack lasting 6s
I find it odd you replaced Bennett and not Xianyun. When trying burgeon GaMing maybe use Baizhu instead of Xianyun because while she buffs plunging dmg she not necessary for Burgeon GaMing. Furina, Baizhu, Bennett, GaMing would work well while also getting enough cores and Furina’s buff. Not having Bennett, especially C6 Bennett kinda hurts GaMing’s dmg because not only is Bennett giving ATK buff but also Pyro buff and Pyro Resonance compared to Xianyun who’s mostly there for Furina and VV shred if she’s on VV. But because this is Burgeon GaMing, I’d prioritize Bennett over Xianyun in this team.
Ah yes... sadly another 5 star claymore or just crit claymore in general that's become another stat stick It's looking like we'll never have a versatile crit claymore of any kind like how we have mist splitter I mean we're already in Natlan and don't have one already
@@coffeelatte8616 well yeah but there's a good few sigs that are really good on a bunch of other characters and we just don't have a claymore like that yet
@@greenesttea3687 yeah that too, but the crit rate on the weapon is so low that it reminds me of those +20 artifacts that roll so bad they still look +4, if that makes sense lol
you can do Eula but in her proper rotation shel benefit only from like 4 stacks max but still good, also stat distribution is same as her signature; Freminet as a melt unit in a burning team would work perfectly with that claymore
I think DPS Sayu and Dori can use it. But I gotta wait till tomorrow bc I don't have the mats. Sayu's DPS is all Burst and Skill. Dori with TF and C1 can also spam Skill. But it does seem that Burning/Burgeon is a must for anyone using this.
I didnt want to pull this weapon... but then i rationalized it with if i got EL I wouldn't be too mad about it... forgetting i could completely fail to get either LMAO... 1 skyward pride later, I had no choice but to pull or waste the guarantee... didnt have to spend any money so i guess im not too mad about it
Gaming's elemental skill actually DOES hit enemies... It's the lunge he does at the start, and on hit, it just launches him up into the air so he can do the special plunge attack. The lunge itself does no damage, so the stacks are basically trying to buff the damage... the 0 damage...
And that claymore is the reason why I didn't wish on weapon banner. This weapon is do niche that literally no one else can (fully) use it. It's good for kinich and garbage for any other char.
You could say it’s too… Kiniche. HA, don’t worry I’ll be here all day. I do want to say, it could definitely work with Diluc since he can easily get all the stacks within a few seconds if on the right team and using all of his E! But yes, still best on Kinich for a reason.
watched this a week ago, got kinich on my second account, got skyward pride, and just few hours earlier I got this weapon on my main account and I don't have Kinich and I knew this weapon is awful without kinich so this is cool. Also I'm not pulling the same characters that I already have on my other account this is why I made another account to pull for characters that I don't have on my main so this weapon will stay at level 1. Cool
So... Fremmy, Chongyun, Diluc and Dehya may be able to use this weapon too? And its also possible for Eula? What about Kaveh? Tbh i dont even know Kaveh's kit lmao
if I had them more leveled up I'd try burn Sayu or Xinyan, used it on my Razor for a bit on a bastard burn/load team with Emilie and Chev just to see how high I could get his burst/skill numbers up
Dehya is dual scaling, not split. But bad multipliers will hold her back, and she'd prefer crit stats overall. As to the middle ground for her, the answer is Emilie. She likes the burn, she feeds the burn, she provides damage to make up for Dehya's lack thereof. Because, at the end of the day, damage per screenshot only matters for thumbnails and such, but for actual play, the team's overall damage is what matters. And going this route also means you can put Dehya in the burn set, which will mean she also gets the DMG bonus to her normals. Although, with burn in the mix, as well as Dehya's mechanics, Hunter's for the crit rate is a solid option. If you want to pretend Dehya can DPS, you can still run Benny and a whatever. Or you can not sweat her damage too much and go with some more off-field sources of damage, while letting on-field Dehya do what she does best (which is shrug off any and all damage sent her way).
Would it work with a plunge Kaveh team? Def a meme team, but say you put Baizhu/Nahida/Emily with Dehya/Bennet...Get the burning on, then Xianyun Burst, then Kaveh Burst into Skill... You might get some very funny Dendro plunges
Genuinely dislike the amount of people that instantly write off Dehya. The peeps I think it would be good on and the teams you'd run: Navia Burning (Navia, Bennett, Baizhu/Yaoyao/Nahida, Thoma/Dehya) Navia Burgeon (Navia, Xingqiu/Furina, Nahida/Baizhu/Yaoyao, EM Thoma/Dehya) Freminet Burn Melt E Spam (Freminet, Nahida, Bennett, Xiangling/Kazuha) Dehya Burning (Kinich/Yaoyao/Nahida, Bennett, Dehya, Emilie) Dehya Burgeon (Neuvillette, Nahida, Furina/Kazuha, Dehya) Eula Burgeon (Eula, Xingqiu, Nahida/Baizhu, EM Thoma) Diluc Burgeon (Diluc, Xingqiu/Furina, Nahida/Baizhu, Bennett/Surcrose) Chongyun Burn Melt (Chongyun, Nahida, Bennett, Xiangling/Kazuha) Hope this helps! Please don't shy away from building Dehya as a sub dps. You will always burst every other rotation with her! And her skill damage can range from 20-25k no vape or melt. On top of that Dehya elemental skill can snapshot attack buffs!
@@fin.2830 i triple crowned my frem but never tried cryo frem! Just been running plunge shatter with xianyun lol. Would definitely try it with burn emilie.
while i know this sounds stupid, would the Sumeru attack speed artifact set work on Freminet with it? or would it be worse than running a standard artifact setup with him?
Sadly i had to start a brand new accoudn since i can't access my old one, from the free 5 stars i got tighnari but totally forgot about Kinich i hope my decision wasn't an absolute L
I _love_ the little giggle after the "Two bonus, Ayaka?" followed by actually two bonuses and complete astonishment
Eula with C6 Benny: "My time has come"
Lol😂😂
IS THIS ACTUALLY GOOD THO?
@@webbedshadow2601no
@@webbedshadow2601 no eulas burst is too big to miss out on and the phys res shred is better than any dmg boost from the weapon
@@captnbluehat compared to what weapon ? Or team comp
5:03 Quick correction as someone who played diluc for a long time if diluc isn't plunging nowadays *all his DMG comes from his skill and burst* as his normals can do some DMG you don't want to completely only spam normals unless he's C6
Lastly diluc is probably the best at using kinich's weapon right now but dehya can also use it decently if you like her as a DPS
But dehya is hp scaling, or like em scaling if built as burgeon dps
@@FacialFischlDehya dual-scales off ATK and HP. You generally focus on her ATK at C0, because her HP scaling is meh until C1.
@@FacialFischl She has HP scaling alongside ATK especially at C1 as ATK isn't useless on her
Its hard to build for a burgeon team for Dehya if she's built as a DPS but it is possible to use kinich's weapon in a burgeon team if you wanted to play that team differently
I see kinich's weapon on dehya as a more high investment option if you have the artifacts and constellations for dehya function well as a DPS because with more cons on dehya the better kinich's weapon will be for her to use
@@FacialFischl Yep, that's the reason why she is so bad as a dps, you cant buff buff both with a team and her base values are so low that going full dmg% and crit buffs doen't do anything either.
@@FacialFischldheya scale on ER sands if on emblem, HP if on varukasha, Attack sands and EM sands if you have good hydro application.
It's just my thoughts,hoyo is foreshadowing with mavuika best weapon, kinich's fang will be the second best for mavuika or same level as her sig like how she did in game "your weapon is mine kinich"
I’ll come back to your comment when she releases to remind you of you’re right 🎉
i really wish you right incase i lost my engulfing to this and also since im going for mauvika aswell 😅
@@soresenja1990 dude same i pulled kinich after i got it just so it wouldnt be useless
@@soresenja1990I LITERALLY just lost my 50/50 to it
the passive of it says it can be triggered from off field, and the archons are always geared towards off field sub dps/support so it’s definitely more than likely. the craftable might also be a good option since even moreso it’s the exact weapon she yoinked from kinich lmao
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Freminet can easily stack and he can maintain the Fang of Mountain King stacks, if he is not interrupted to much.
During his burst with every normal attack he deal a small Cryo Dmg, which is considering Elemental Skill dmg (more stack). Mika Attack speed buff is helping to gain more easily these stacks.
With his rotation, E-skill, Burst, N2 then Skill, when the first big skill dmg hit, there is already 4 stack.
Then repeat until the burst end: Skill-N2 -SKill
After that the first Skill dmg in Burst, it's possible to keep the stack on 5-6 mostly, if there is not to much interruption. Sometime stack can go back to 4, but it's easy to get back the stack with the next 2N.
The max dmg is higher with 6 stack then a WGS when the passive is active, with 5 stack is the same, but at least the Mountain King buff is reliable.
I have C6 Freminet, get the Weapon for him, tested a good amount.
Did you tested with xinyan? I like to see the result
@@krumi_hazuki1440 No place for Xinyan. The team is C6 Freminet- C4 Mika with Noblesse (C6 in time)- C3 Furina- Shinobu with Tennacity and Kazuha Sword. Current max dmg with normal attack is 42K-44K, skill dmg 6 stack is 140K-5 stack is about 135K. With C6 Mika is expected about 50-51 K average Normal attack dmg and 170 K skill dmg with max stack.
Attack without buff is 2040, CDM is 173% with 4 Pale Flame.
The first skill during burst is never has max stack, the second has it as usually you start your rotation with skill, then busrt then N2-Skill then Skill-N2-Skill. So cuz of the burst after the First skill ,there is less time to w8 with your cooldown after the First Big skill dmg. The 2. Big skill dmg can has 6 stack. The 3. and last one usually has 5 stack, sometimes 6. Three big skill dmg is the usual what you can do during the Burst.
You can replace Mika with Nahida, and you have a nice Hyperbloom team, Freminet only missing Mika Buff and Tennacity, and can be a Solid Driver.
In Physical team Furina personal dmg is helping the team dmg also.
But interrupption is really matter in the end.
And sometimes enemy is dying before the Big hit, but Freminet still execute the Big skill dmg, baseball the Penguin into the air.
But otherwise it's fun to play.
@@78hannibal51 Don't suppose you know how it would compare to Beacon of the Reed Sea for Freminet? I'm very tempted to pull Fang since I also got Kinich, but I've held back so far because I already pulled Beacon for Fremi on the Chroncled wish.
@@Photon-HL It's hard to evaluate. Freminet didn't had best in slot weapon, only contender. It can be depend from your team. Example if you have Mika Speed buff and Song of The Broken Pine and you can land more hit with the 2 Attack speed buff then this will/can be the best.
Redhorn also can be the best if you are using with C5 Bennett, who makes up for the Attack buff, then Redhorn can be the best.
If you have mixed and match teams then maybe Skyward Pride is the best in your team cuz of the 8x80% vacum blade dmg.
Also Beacon of the Reed Sea Can be the best. Crit rate is always nice, but in his skill with C1 you have 15 crit rate bonus, if you have a second cryo unit in your team, that can give you 15 extra crit rate from cryo resonance too.
Beacon passive is conditional. You cannot be shielded, or you loss that buff. Even without shield if the enemy is not hiting you (you are good at dodging) you also won't get the attack buff. Attack buff value is also less if you have a lot of other outside source like Bennett.
Also can depend from your artifact sets. Maybe you cannot give Freminet enough crit rate without the Beacon of the Red Sea.
Probably Fang of the Mountan King is the most versatile about teams, if you have Mika in your team, or at least one other attack speed buffer like Chongyun C2 or Jean C2 (in Furina Team), or Yun Jin C6. Without attack speed, less relliable is the stacking with the Mountain King, I think. Probably one less stack in general.
Just for Freminet alone maybe i'ts not worth to pull the Fang, unless you want to give the highest dmg boost weapon for his skill and/or you have low attack buff option.
Attakc buff can get from Bennett, Tennacity, Freedom Sworm, Noblesse.
It's possible to buff Freminet with Song of the Day Past if someone has it. Freminet Normal attacks dmg is about 1/3 of his total dmg, so it's matter. Anything what can boost his normal attack can be good. There are options regarding weapons what can buff both, Normal attack and Skill dmg alike. So you have not just one option how you build him, what is the best for you.
So overall, if you are satisfied with the Beacon in your team, then you don't have to pull for the Fang. But if you feel that you cannot activate the passive relaible, you can go for the Fang. Fang Value is in the big boost for the skill dmg. So you can use with Cryo DPS Freminet too (didn't tested how good with it thought).
You also have Kinich thought. For him, the Fang is the Best in Slot weapon. So if you don't mind to swap weapon from Kinich to Freminet, when you are not using Kinich, then you can go for it. There is a different between Kinich signature and other weapons For Kinich himself. But also a good team can make up the different between these weapons
@@78hannibal51 Thanks for such a detailed response!
I think I can get some value out of Fang since I can always just keep it on Kinich if it didn't work out on Fremi hehe. I tend to run Fremi on beacon right now with Raiden on Tenacity, C2 Furina, C2 Mika on Noblesse. I also run Freminet on an Atk goblet, 1) because the stats are just much better; and 2) Because I get a lot of dmg% from C2 Furina, Mika and 4pc Pale Flame. As it stands though I'm at a 71:195 crit ratio with Beacon, so If I were to use Fang, I do think my crit ratio would suffer a little, but there are a lot of variables to consider. It might just be one of those situations where I'd have to test both to determine which one is best for my build. Thank you for your help!! :)
Who else is watching this video because they ended up getting Kinich's weapon but was aiming for Raiden's 😅
Try a Burning Navia plunge team. It's the one I use, and I was debating getting this weapon specifically for that team.
Navia, Emilie, Dehya, Xianyun
(Xianyun also procs burning from pyro swirls so its more stacks for the passive)
you can try swapping dehya with bennett. navia isnt enough to get rid of all the pyro with emilie's burning going on.
this is one of the reason why i like the sky ward set of 5 star weapons. Sure they arent super good but anyone can use them and od god with them. I would love if character weapons had a more generic boost so more could use them but i get why they do this
At the other hand having generic passives would negate the purpose of having signature weapons
@@cristianogomes8905 this
Unforged is actually decent on kinich if you wanted to test that, and his sig is pretty good on beidou if you can slot her in a burning team idk why someone would but it’s a option lol.
11 crit rate is crazy
look at that damn base atk pls
Nope, the artifact set that’s made for him gives 40% and if you use his weapon plus 11% so 51% if you’re really unlucky with artifacts.
If they did anymore than that i think it would be too much
@@EmmelusAANmualani ascends with crit rate and her weapon gives 88 crit dmg so it’s extremely easy to make her reach over 100crit rate and 200crit dmg with the same artifact set.
@@micaiah_smbdy crit is not everything. She scales off HP, so attack is useless for her. He scales off attack, and has the biggest attack scaling of the game. A 88% Crit damage weapon with 542 base attack would drop his damage.
@@Elia2Tu They only brought up Mualani because of how easy it is for her to overcap on Crit Rate because she ascends with Crit Rate and Obsidian Codex gives you 40%. Fang of the Mountain King AND Kinich's stats (he ascends with Crit DMG) are designed with that 40% boost in mind, which is why the Crit Rate is so low
u need to bring back the aesthetics section bc thats half of the reason why I (an most people I think) pull for weapons at least and it's always fun to look at
Correction on Noelle. Her damage scales off attack, but while her burst is active, she gets a massive attack buff based on her defense. It’s not a terrible weapon for her, but others are better
As a Ga-ming main myself since Lantern Rite and a beginner who doesn't fully understand scaling, I am so grateful you explained this in full detail. I have been pondering on this weapon for gaming since I got the weapon off the web event
Correct me if I'm wrong but do you mean the 4* web event claymore? The weapon in this video is a different one. Do they have similar restrictions?
The weapon from the event that’s the 4-star weapon would probably be good with Gaming, no? The weapon in the video is about Kinich’s 5-star signature though, not that event weapon.
wrong weapon. they look similar though
specialist case, Dehya can used this weapon very well if she's placed into a burning based team , double Dendro , I try it with her, Emilie, and Yao Yao , together with a flex slot , which can be another Pyro or Anemo for the swirl
kinich reminds me of kayn of league of legends
He has Ajaw that annoys him, just like Rhaast on Kayn
His claymore looks like its alive, just like Kayn’s scythe
They are both edgy characters
there are some really good dehya dps guides out there, i highly recommend the, dehya is very fun
I really wanted to see this weapon with diluc . I was pulling for raiden's weapon but got this.
Me widsmith 🥺
Welp, i guess i just gotta hope that the weapon is good for mavuika, cuz i got it by accident whilst pulling for engulfing :’)
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I think this weapon might be pretty decent for Eula and navia even without burning/burgeon teams. Navia has 2 e charges (i think u can actually squeeze in 3 elemental skill hits in some point(s) of her rotation(s)) and eula has to use her e skill twice during her rotation. (If u have c2 u can use it like 3 times I believe ).
And like other characters, they can use marachausse (with furina) so the weapon only having 11% crit rate is fine. Its not their best option by any means, but I think it might be above or at minimum at least equal to most (refined ?) 4 star options. 🤔🤔 I very well could be wrong but if this is one of the only 5 star/good claymores u have for some reason. It might be worth it to try it on them.
the weapon is bigger than gaming LMAO
Burning Navia would work.
if you stack it with golden troupe, it will make for a good nuke weapon
But who would be navias dendro support?None of them buff her
@@moolan10 Baizhu for healing
@@musicaltarrasque But most of the times Bennett is already in there
@moolan10 but you can put song of days past on baizhu ☝️
@@moolan10 That's where Emilie comes in. Don't need to buff Navia's damage is Emilie just does it herself. But Emilie doesn't stack the best with Benny, since she doesn't snapshot. And it puts you in a situation where your Navia is either forgoing having geo resonance or the bonus from 2x PECHs.
Yep, that's it. I'm NEVER pulling on the weapon banner again. First, I lost to Lyney's bow for Arlecchino's, now I lost to Kinich's claymore, and I have absolutely no plans on pulling for him.
I just don't understand why Hoyoverse can't just split the signature weapon banners like they did with HSR.
This stupid weapon made me pull for Kinich. Well, I can say Kinich gameplay isn't as bad as I expected, it is quite fun.
Goatyaka came in clutch~
the weapon could work on Eula in a burgeon team with c6 Bennett she would be the one applying pyro and getting the stacks for her ult
the team could be eula c6 Bennett emilie and any hydro applier
This is a bit of a weird team, but I use it, and I think it could make this weapon work on navia
Team: bennett, navia, emily, xiangling
She can get the stacks in this team, and she usually can use her skills before 6 seconds, but idk just a thought
Nah man i hate this game. First I lost 35% of Mualani's weapon in the last banner and then in this banner i grind for a whole week to get Raiden's weapon and lost it to this weapon. They have gotta do something about this weapon banner thing man, or I might quit this game ffs like i did a year ago
fr, this is my 5th lose in the weap banner 😭😭😭
@@rielle1161 btw I did get Raiden's weapon on 9 pity 👺🤙
Honestly, I think the weapon banner is better? I can remember the fate point been twice and fill but now it is only one ? 🤔 Or was it always one ?
@@dacryingkat LUCKYYY 😭 congrats!!
@@rielle1161 thank you, but I have stopped playing the game so wtvr 😅
The sword can be indeed used for an Off-Field Dehya that can easily maintain 6 stacks tho
in a burning team with E (wait 0.5s) E you're already at 5 /6 stacks at 1 second or so, with her other attack happening each 2.5s and each stack lasting 6s
With the amount of content that's currently being added into the game, It's so crazy to see how fast moga is keeping up with it.
I'm not even a content creator but I still cannot keep up
I find it odd you replaced Bennett and not Xianyun. When trying burgeon GaMing maybe use Baizhu instead of Xianyun because while she buffs plunging dmg she not necessary for Burgeon GaMing. Furina, Baizhu, Bennett, GaMing would work well while also getting enough cores and Furina’s buff. Not having Bennett, especially C6 Bennett kinda hurts GaMing’s dmg because not only is Bennett giving ATK buff but also Pyro buff and Pyro Resonance compared to Xianyun who’s mostly there for Furina and VV shred if she’s on VV. But because this is Burgeon GaMing, I’d prioritize Bennett over Xianyun in this team.
in 5.1 there's going to be a 4 star claymore that actually buffs plunging damage... therefore it's the perfect fit for Gaming
Ah yes... sadly another 5 star claymore or just crit claymore in general that's become another stat stick
It's looking like we'll never have a versatile crit claymore of any kind like how we have mist splitter I mean we're already in Natlan and don't have one already
Serpent Spine is about as close as we get, though it pretty much wants a shielder to be used with any on-fielder.
I think that's the point, henche the name 'signature-weapon'
@@coffeelatte8616 well yeah but there's a good few sigs that are really good on a bunch of other characters and we just don't have a claymore like that yet
i get that its because codex give 40 cr but the weapon having 11% crit rate just looks so goofy lol
60% emg bonus big tho
@@greenesttea3687 yeah that too, but the crit rate on the weapon is so low that it reminds me of those +20 artifacts that roll so bad they still look +4, if that makes sense lol
@@RoheySaysHey alright, I get you
But you forget one thing
This wp has drips
what about Kaveh? you forgot the only dendro claymore user besides kinich 😂
Kaveh has a really long skill cooldown and his kit is build around bloom
@@faicalaba6934 wait i forgot lol i was remembering someone else and thought it was 8 secs
Because it’s bad for him?
@@fischls5771it is?
@@faicalaba6934his skill has 6 seconds cooldown.
you can do Eula but in her proper rotation shel benefit only from like 4 stacks max but still good, also stat distribution is same as her signature; Freminet as a melt unit in a burning team would work perfectly with that claymore
I think DPS Sayu and Dori can use it. But I gotta wait till tomorrow bc I don't have the mats.
Sayu's DPS is all Burst and Skill. Dori with TF and C1 can also spam Skill. But it does seem that Burning/Burgeon is a must for anyone using this.
I didnt want to pull this weapon... but then i rationalized it with if i got EL I wouldn't be too mad about it... forgetting i could completely fail to get either LMAO... 1 skyward pride later, I had no choice but to pull or waste the guarantee... didnt have to spend any money so i guess im not too mad about it
Gaming's elemental skill actually DOES hit enemies...
It's the lunge he does at the start, and on hit, it just launches him up into the air so he can do the special plunge attack. The lunge itself does no damage, so the stacks are basically trying to buff the damage... the 0 damage...
And that claymore is the reason why I didn't wish on weapon banner. This weapon is do niche that literally no one else can (fully) use it. It's good for kinich and garbage for any other char.
You could say it’s too… Kiniche. HA, don’t worry I’ll be here all day.
I do want to say, it could definitely work with Diluc since he can easily get all the stacks within a few seconds if on the right team and using all of his E! But yes, still best on Kinich for a reason.
watched this a week ago, got kinich on my second account, got skyward pride, and just few hours earlier I got this weapon on my main account and I don't have Kinich and I knew this weapon is awful without kinich so this is cool. Also I'm not pulling the same characters that I already have on my other account this is why I made another account to pull for characters that I don't have on my main so this weapon will stay at level 1. Cool
What scalings does Kaveh have? Can't remember but I had the feeling he should be good with the sword too
Imagine THIS with razor? It boosts his burst damage as well as his skill
Can you try a team comp of dori kinich furina and thoma? I’ve been dying to see someone else try this team😅
So... Fremmy, Chongyun, Diluc and Dehya may be able to use this weapon too?
And its also possible for Eula? What about Kaveh? Tbh i dont even know Kaveh's kit lmao
if I had them more leveled up I'd try burn Sayu or Xinyan, used it on my Razor for a bit on a bastard burn/load team with Emilie and Chev just to see how high I could get his burst/skill numbers up
AHA YAY IM EARLY (great content moga!!)
so thats were my purple mats went 🙂
Dehya is dual scaling, not split. But bad multipliers will hold her back, and she'd prefer crit stats overall.
As to the middle ground for her, the answer is Emilie. She likes the burn, she feeds the burn, she provides damage to make up for Dehya's lack thereof. Because, at the end of the day, damage per screenshot only matters for thumbnails and such, but for actual play, the team's overall damage is what matters. And going this route also means you can put Dehya in the burn set, which will mean she also gets the DMG bonus to her normals. Although, with burn in the mix, as well as Dehya's mechanics, Hunter's for the crit rate is a solid option. If you want to pretend Dehya can DPS, you can still run Benny and a whatever. Or you can not sweat her damage too much and go with some more off-field sources of damage, while letting on-field Dehya do what she does best (which is shrug off any and all damage sent her way).
what i get for using my pity (SINCE I JOINED) without checking out kinich's weapon. Farewell engulfing, my beloved
700 base attack is crazy💀
Shenhes has it too
Bro poor bennette, i bet he is drooling while looking at that base atk
Jp youtuber maguro head made a video about burn melt chongyun. Its pretty good but has various issues esp with self burn damage.
Would it work with a plunge Kaveh team? Def a meme team, but say you put Baizhu/Nahida/Emily with Dehya/Bennet...Get the burning on, then Xianyun Burst, then Kaveh Burst into Skill... You might get some very funny Dendro plunges
i've got 3 skyward claymore but not single gravestone till now is so frustrating
Genuinely dislike the amount of people that instantly write off Dehya. The peeps I think it would be good on and the teams you'd run:
Navia Burning (Navia, Bennett, Baizhu/Yaoyao/Nahida, Thoma/Dehya)
Navia Burgeon (Navia, Xingqiu/Furina, Nahida/Baizhu/Yaoyao, EM Thoma/Dehya)
Freminet Burn Melt E Spam (Freminet, Nahida, Bennett, Xiangling/Kazuha)
Dehya Burning (Kinich/Yaoyao/Nahida, Bennett, Dehya, Emilie)
Dehya Burgeon (Neuvillette, Nahida, Furina/Kazuha, Dehya)
Eula Burgeon (Eula, Xingqiu, Nahida/Baizhu, EM Thoma)
Diluc Burgeon (Diluc, Xingqiu/Furina, Nahida/Baizhu, Bennett/Surcrose)
Chongyun Burn Melt (Chongyun, Nahida, Bennett, Xiangling/Kazuha)
Hope this helps! Please don't shy away from building Dehya as a sub dps. You will always burst every other rotation with her! And her skill damage can range from 20-25k no vape or melt. On top of that Dehya elemental skill can snapshot attack buffs!
Just got it on the weapon banner and now I have to pull for Kinich because the weapon is useless for everyone else at least for now.. thanks Hoyo
I did one single pull on the weapon banner for stardust and my pity wasn't and i got his weapon. I was charted for engulfing.
just got it, I wanna cry. I have like no characters for it and I didn't even want him 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Levy Never Fails to... Wait wrong channel
I really hope Mavuika can use it
Now i m curious who don't have her signature if they pulled deyha c6...
DEHYA MENTIONED !! 🎉
When i was in school gaming was happy :(😢
>I see gaming
>I click
This sword can in theory work well for Freminet. But running a physical carry in a pyro team seems weird.
I’m one of the few people who play cryo frem, and burn melt with this weapon goes insane! I did close to 100k with his burst alone
@@fin.2830 i triple crowned my frem but never tried cryo frem! Just been running plunge shatter with xianyun lol. Would definitely try it with burn emilie.
Are you gonna do a solo spiral abyss challenge with kinich?
They purposely made the crit rate super low because of the artifact set that gives you 40%
Can navia use this weapon? Can she outperform WGS with kinich's weapon?
Watching this after a 60 pity pull of getting both fang and raiden’s spear oh and a shinobu
Yes im bragging you would be too
2:59, does anyone know what site is that?
I accidentally pulled it while getting raiden’s weapon 🤡 and I don’t use any claymore characters 😭
Navia + c6 benny using normal attacks on a dendro enemy
while i know this sounds stupid, would the Sumeru attack speed artifact set work on Freminet with it? or would it be worse than running a standard artifact setup with him?
The Claymore will be good for Kaveh, for be dendro
i accidentally got this weapon… i don’t even got kinich 😭
DPS Kaveh in a burgeon team?
Sadly i had to start a brand new accoudn since i can't access my old one, from the free 5 stars i got tighnari but totally forgot about Kinich i hope my decision wasn't an absolute L
like every other time i got the worst weapon while trying to get my character their weapon
Hopefully your day is going good
Natlan domains been insanely generous with materials
Not artifacts tho
I think it might be good on Kaveh
Ig you summized w. Gaming we can stack it with only burning, why didn't you at least try it with Navia?
How do you have so many enhancement ores? I only get some when i buy the bp and even then they are not enough
Idk if anyone has noticed but the monstadt weapon and talent domains got changed and no longer suck to play.
Have you not reading patch notes??
I got FOTMK pulling for Engulfing Lightning and I don't have Kinich 😅😅
i like using it on beidou when im not playing kinich lol
They should have made it a pyro related reaction instead of burgeon or burning smh
what tf was that luck. insane drops and insane bonuses. holy
I guess the weapon is just too specific than flexible
Weapon mats farming was always easy
i call it "The Lettes cut"
11% crit rate is diabolical
I feel bad now I accidentally wished on this weapon 😢not a big claymore fan
I was shouting Eula the whole video...
better drops because of higher world level?
haha greetings to all of you who lost on a weapon banner too! my fang is on gaming
green Minecraft epic gaming sword
I wanted engulfing lightning >:(
How comes Thundering furry Razor wasn’t used?
Ayaka was begging you for C6