Hiking the TMB - My Advice
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
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// m u s i c i n t h i s v i d e o
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0:00 - Intro
1:01 - Starting point of the TMB
3:09 - How to get there
4:31 - Get used to the oxygen levels
5:28 - Add some time to the estimated times per stage in the Cicerone-guide
7:22 - Wildcamping
10:22 - Swiss franc
10:59 - Start hiking early
11:42 - How well is the trail indicated?
12:37 - Variants
13:25 - How to greet fellow hikers
14:46 - Temperature
15:38 - There's no clean water source between Le Brévent and La Flégère
16:03 - You don't need bulky hiking boots
16:37 - Use sunscreen
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In Italy every region has its own rules about camping; in Valle d'Aosta, where you actually were, it's allowed to wild camp, from sunset to sunrise, up to 2500 mt and far away from camping site, hotels, rifugi...
We can say that in Italy it's tolerated to wild camp (bivaccare) pretty everywhere in the alps at those conditions...
10:00~ You are real mountain lover!! Respect your attitude👍
I’m going to walk trough part of TMB in this summer, and much appreciated your useful live advise😉
Hey Floor. I found your channel while i planning to hike Kungsleden trail. I liked your personality and subbed :). Keep on hiking!
Found your channel with the kungsleden video, and you are quickly becoming one of my favorites.
Hey
Floor, great presentation 👍 i smile alot and like it !!! Keep the good vibes going... im a newbee in the hiking and planning the tmb this june....
Thanks a lot for the really useful info. I am English and I agree with you 100% - it is considerate and good manners to greet people in the local language, rather than one's own, non-local language. Also, I send my appreciation for your suggestion of "leave no trace" and, even better, "make the world a tidier place", when it comes to wild camping 👍👍👍
Merci voor de video Floor. Ga binnenkort de TMB doen, solo en met de tent, deze tips zullen zeker van pas komen!
Je doet dat fantastisch goed, Floor! Net de praktijktips die iemand die dit nog nooit gedaan heeft (zoals ik, die er wel aan denkt, maar niet echt weet hoe het moet) nodig heeft. Het geeft me echt meer moed en goesting om te vertrekken. Ook het feit dat je dat alleen doet, wellicht zal ik dat ook moeten doen. Blijf gaan en ik kijk al uit naar je volgende avonturen.
Hey Marc, zo leuk om te lezen! Alleszins al veel geluk en plezier op je komende wandeling :).
Hi Floor, thx for all the useful tips! If the weather allows, I'll be hiking the TMB with my 10 year old daughter next summer. Hope to do some of the variants, as you suggested. The plan is to wild camp as much as possible, yet I will make a reservation for the Refuggio de Bonatti.
I really don't know how you could have started the tour of Mont Blanc with the ascent of the Brevent. Bravo to you ! I did it on the way down, it was already very hard especially with the heat.
For sure I subscribe! ☺️
And I totally agree on the fact that people should learn to say at least hello Thank you and goodbye in language of of the country they are in.
I really really like your videos. I guess you are better than you actually are aware of. Thanks. PS: Your Kungsleden video is stilll my favorite video from Sweden.
Keep posting.
Hey Thomas! Thank you so much :). I will keep posting, for sure!!
My fiance and I are watching this (from the US) in preparation for our honeymoon once we're able to get married (thanks COVID)! Thanks for making such a wonderful and informative video!
Love your hoodie! 😍
Hi Floor, wonderful tips. Regarding the ignorance of native English speakers, I think it's not so much ignorance but as you mentioned the trail is quite popular and get crowded. You can either opt, as you suggested, to greet fellow hikers in the language of the country (or part) you're in, or you choose the language, I think, understood by most people around the world. I feel you, as a fellow Belgian reaching a compromis, I think it's the most polite way to introduce yourself. It's the first things your research in advance, or ask your taxi driver in a foreign country "How do you say hello, goodbye, etc." However greeting in English, is the "safest" way to get a response.
Love ur tips. Thank you🥰
I love your vibe 🤙
Great info! Thank you TMB next month. CIAO!
Some addition to point 11. It actually can be cold. I went in September and it was freezing a few nights. Especially when you put your tent up a bit higher in the mountains. We also had some snow during the day. I guess it depends on the period you are going and it is always smart to check the weather forecast before you go.
Oops, heads up for everyone! Thanks for the additional info :).
Giiiirl I met you during your trip!! Actually you did not know where put your tent that night and I also did not know so for safety we decided to not being together and we say bye bye to each other!! Hihi so nice to see you here again:) very well done video!!
Wooooooooow, I thought about you so many times afterwards! What did you do that night? Where dit you sleep? I felt so bad because when I came to the place where I was going to wildcamp, I saw that there was enough space for two tents and felt that the police wouldn't really bother to check those places every night. I hope you found a good spot to put up your tent that night!! Hugs to you :).
A lightweight tip - I always make paper-copys of the "needed" pages from guidebooks. When you finish them, you can just toss them. Great videos btw :)
Yeeessss that's a good one! Unfortunately I like to take notes in the specific book so I can read it back later. But definitely a good tip, maybe in a couple of years I will be able to let go of the sentimental value of these books :).
@@floordenil Hi Floor. Greetings from and US. Will you be creating any new videos? I really enjoy your content and your videos are outstanding. I hope all is well with you. Take care and keep hiking.
Hey Floor! Just discovered your channel, loving everything! I'm wondering if you booked the tent/camping spots in advance or do they generally have space without you needing to book them beforehand?
I really just want to go with my tent and not have to worry about not being able to take my time etc because I need to get to a specific place or that I want to skip some stages if I'm feeling good. Thanks in advance if you have time for this question!
I love this girl and her little Polar Bear.
Thank You Floor ;)
You’re so entertaining LoL I adore you!
Also, curiously, my most adored singer is called Floor ahah
Thanks for the tips!! We are coming from America. Are there places to rent sleeping bags/tents on the hike, preferably a starting point? Or will we have to bring them from America? You said there was no water in one spot.. do we need a water filtering system for other areas for rivers? Last question, is there a place at the starting point to store roller luggage that will not be used on the hike?
OMW to the TMB and a little tour around in a couple weeks!
Grrreat! 👍🏼
Thanks for your sharing ! I am looking forward to doing this trail this summer, solo too ! your tips will definitely help me out.
I just have a little question. If i wild camp next to the refugee, can i pay them a bit to use their facilities ( charge my phone, use their toilets.. ) without sleeping in their doms ?
Thank you so much, again.
Hey! So nice that you're going to hike the TMB! I'm really sorry, but I don't know the answer to your question... I slept on campsites or wildcamped, so I never really camped next to a hut. Hopefully some other hiker who knows the answer to this question reads it (and answers it) :)!
These places also serve food and drink so if you buy yourself something then you will have no problem. They are also busy places so even if you don’t buy anything it would be hard for them to notice. When I went one of my friends camped outside and he had no trouble.
Your videos are awesome. Will you be making any new videos?
Thanks for the comments and tips. Could you tell me the name and location of the one hotel you used? Do you recommend it? Like you, dormitory hostals will not work for me. Bedankt en goed wandelen!
French people say hi in French in colonized African countries or islands as well :) So, I'd say, the sensitivity of Europeans about language and nationality is usually not empathetic. It's actually one of the biggest challenges of European culture. On the other hand, I don't mean you're difficult, you have a great channel and it's such a helpful and sweet video. Thank you!
Thank you. :)
If you take variant.s and carry a camping pack IE heavy I would recommend boots
Hi Floor. Hope you´re well. What´s the name of the backpack you used on the GR20? Thank you.
Hi! It's the Atom+ from Atompacks :).
I totally agree on the greetings! I also really don't like it if the locals start talking English to me when I am clearly trying to speak German/French/Italian haha, I feel such a tourist when that happens! By the way, I am a mountain climber and I wear leggins that have UV protection! Never get burnt underneath my leggins! (I'm from Limburg by the way, no clue why I always write in English).
What is the brand of your leggings?
Hi we are looking to do this clockwise, did you go down the ladders and was this OK?
Oh which month did you do the hike? Is August a good idea?
Hey Floor! What kind of trail runners did you use? Any recommendations? Great video!
Heyhey! I used Salomon trail runners. I don't know the exact type, unfortunately!
@@floordenil Thanks for the info! I want to get some trail runners for TMB but need to make sure I get ones that are up for the task. I like Salomons tho!
Hoi Floor. fijn deze informatie! ik vertrek volgende week vanuit Courmayeur om de TMB te lopen.
Mijn plan is met de klok mee - het enige waar ik me enige zorgen over maak : de ladders. Het zijn er nogal wat en afdalen lijkt me veel lastiger dan klimmen- hoe heb jij dat ervaren? Dank alvast voor je antwoord!
Hey Anne! Op zich zijn er niet heel veel ladders (zoals ik me herinner), maar het is soms inderdaad even slikken als je moet afdalen. Ze zijn zeker wel stevig bevestigd aan de bergen, dus daar kan zeker niets mee gebeuren. Vooral even door de mentale blokkage breken, maar als ik het kan, kan jij het ook! :)
Nice video. Is is difficult to buy gas canisters in the stores in fx. Les Houches?
Hi! I'm not sure because I cold soaked on this trail, but I think it wouldn't be difficult as this is a hiking walhalla :).
@@floordenil Thanks for the reply and I respect people who cold soak. I couldn't :D Have a nice day!
Good advertising, subscribed.
You can camp in Italy if you're above like 2000 or 2200 meters right?
Thumbs and subscribed at the same time 😁. If you had to decide between this trail and the GR20 which would you go with? I am facing this decision right now.
Hey Viktor! It depends on what you like. If you like to pass by many villages and meet a lot of people as well as being on a trail with more color and easier-to-follow paths, the TMB is for you. If you, however, like to be a bit more in the ‘middle of nowhere’ with more challenging paths and almost no villages you pass through, you should go do the GR20 :)!
@@floordenil thanks a lot! I am definitely the middle of nowhere type! My absolute favourite hikes are in the US wilderness. Olympic National park, Sequoia National park and Yosemite. I really appreciate your advice on this!
Ha - I did a 2 day trip last year in Switzerland and at the hut we stayed overnight it said 4 hrs to the next hut. Some guy told us: if you're fast you can do it in 3 hrs.. yeah right - it took us 5 hrs to get there... and I don't think I'm a slow hiker
I’m from Poland and on all international trails I say hello as English is an international way to communicate not a sign of ignorance. Ciao is easy but last time in Paris I tried bonjour with some people and there were like hmm? I guess my Polish pronation kills the word.
Those tipps are gold. Thank you very much!
I find it ignorant in general to not learn at least a little bit of the language of the country you are visiting. Not everybody is talking English and I like to dig into the life of a country, so it's way nicer to be able to talk a little bit of that language. Just the main things, "Hello, thank you, I reserved a room, I would like to have, the bill please". That's not that much to learn. And people will not be mad at you if the pronounciation is bad, they will enjoy your approach. :D
yeah i think most people like it when foreigners try to speak their language in general
Ik heb nog geen ervaring dus het is misschien een stomme vraag, maar hoe weet je welke routes drukbewandeld zijn? Ik wil ook eerder de stilte opzoeken, dus hoe minder mensen, hoe beter :p
Dat weet je nooit echt totdat je er zelf bent. Als het een route is die vrij gekend is (er zijn veel gidsen over, veel RUclipsfilmpjes, veel blogposts etc) ga je beter naar daar in het laagseizoen. Ik wandel ook meestal in de tegengestelde richting, dus dan loop je minder in een 'treintje' met andere wandelaars :)!
The variants are nicer on the TMB just look at the weather before take them, with bad weather the classic way is often a better solution.
Oh, I actually have a question: In the area around the Refuge des Mottets camping is not allowed and it's not that easy to find a spot as far as I was able to research. Did you find a good spot around there to camp?
Hey! Oh, I didn't know you're not allowed to camp near the Refuge des Mottets! I found one just a little up the mountain above the refuge (it's the campingspot you see while I'm talking about wildcamping in this video, where I put my tent up in fastforward).
@@floordenil Some people have been expelled from the area of the refuge but I think they have been still in sight of the refuge. The refuge seems to be very strict about the no camping in their sight (as far as I could research). I find it also very strange that they don't allow camping, they could charge the people for the camping spots and get some extra money.
Edit: Found the spot on the card. 🙏🥳
Yes that’s a bit strange. I was just out of sight of the refuge, so there definitely is a campingspot! It was near a small ruin of a very little house (there are several ruins there, look for the one that’s really small and a bit more up the mountain!).
@@floordenil Thank you again. You've helped me a lot with my planning. Now I can't wait... 5 more months :D
Hey Floor, mijn vriend en ik zijn van plan om deze zomer de TMB te wandelen en hebben een vraag bij de 4de tip. Van waar tot waar loopt stage 8 in jouw boekje? Wij gebruiken een ander boekje en zouden dit graag eens vergelijken om te weten of we de tijden ook best aanpassen. Bedankt voor de tips!
Hey Nadeche! In wijzerzin of tegenwijzerzin?
@@floordenil we plannen om het in wijzerzin te doen ;-)
@@nadechevandenhemel6772 Stage 8 in mijn boekje is Les Houches - Le Brévent - La Flégère, ze tellen daar 6 uur à 6 uur en een half voor uit!
@@floordenil oke bedankt!
Floor! Je engels en je frans! Complimenten!
What do you say to greet a hiker in Switzerland? French or Italian or Swiss? I'm Canadian.
You could do French or German, although that part of Switzerland is mostly French :)!
@floordenil thank you. I took French and German in high school. I look forward to speaking these other languages as best I can. ❤️
Oh en doe je altijd gewoon één paar wandelschoenen mee? Het lijkt me dat die anders snel zo ‘platgelopen’ zijn, of ondervind je daar geen problemen mee?
Daar ondervind ik geen problemen mee! De wandelingen die ik (tot nu toe) gedaan heb zijn ook niet zooo lang. Meestal kan één paar wandelschoenen een paar duizend kilometers afleggen, dus daar moet je je normaalgezien geen zorgen over maken :).
You are so adorable ❤
Nice video, funny n cute
clockwise is other direction 🤷♀️
If you change your perspective to Floors, it is the correct direction...
Not passive aggressive at all
Hey James! What do you mean?
Bonjour. J'apprends vite. ha ha C'est une chose française. Quand vous êtes tous petit, vos parents doivent vous enseigner « dit un petit bonjour, c'est la plus importante chose du monde ». Do I sound ok? But I don't speak Italian so I would feel kind of fake greeting anyone in that language.
I would guess that if you say "Bonjour" or "Ciao" you are likely to get a rely in English especially if you mangle the pronunciation. But if you can not be bothered to try some people will not be bothered with you.
Thanks for the video.
Like the french would ever try to say hello in a different language. They always say bonjour no matter where they are.
@@mhendriks609 I have had entire conversations with French people here in the UK, it was all in English.
@@mhendriks609 You're typical of the English attitude. Stupid and ignorant.
You are a complicated person 🤨
Complicated denotes lack of understanding which denotes the subject of complication as superior in their intellect. Indeed you are a simple person.
I apologize for those impolite British who are too lazy to learn a few basic phrases of the language of the country they are in.
love the tips, but yea, the greeting one was total bs :) it's not a tip, it's an opinion. This is literally the reason I won't say hello to anyone anymore. To compare not greeting you in your language as ignorance is insane. This is how a word loses its meaning. I could say you not using international language in a place full of international travelers is ignorant and inconsiderate too. I know way more than Bonjour, doesn't mean I need or want to say it, because I'm not coming to Swtizerland or France, I'm coming to a piece of nature, and nature, despite what modern borders dictate, does not belong to anyone. I don't come here to meet or greet hikers, i go there for my personal connection to it and to escape exactly this sort of society who wants to police everything including a simple greeting. The beauty of being on a trail is that you have a bunch of humans from different parts of the world experiencing the same thing, and that goes beyond language. The sort of people who react negatively to a greeting just because it was in a different language are the sort of people not worth to be greeted at all. The Japanese delivery boy from an Asian restaurant in my town bows to me in greeting too, but I don't get mad at him that he doesn't stick his hand out to me for a handshake instead. I subscribed to you, but only for the other actual tips. If you go to nature acting like it belongs to you and everyone else should acknowledge that with a special greeting or that you deserve others to greet you in your language is just super egoistical. This is how humans lost their touch to nature and other human beings, because you get your ego bruised by something as little as "hello". And no, I'm not English, I am from a small country whose greeting nobody will ever know and I don't get butthurt about it.
you need help
Wow, you’re post is all over the place. I agree that it’s not ignorant to say hello in english, as the fact that you say hello is the most important thing (saying it in the local language would be even more polite). But that whole spiel about you visiting nature that doesn’t belong to anyone is a bit silly. You don’t say hello to the nature, but to the people, and most people you’ll meet will be locals.
sorry but her haircut makes me angry
Actually, in what way? Something that's bothering you? Or just ugly in general? Is there another haircut that you suggest? Another color? Or no fringe? Maybe a bit longer/shorter?
this comment is beyond unnecessary
@@floordenil With respect, the style doesn't suit you! Another style might be better. Just my two centimes....