This is without doubt the best and most informative star citizen RUclips channel about, absolutely fantastic content which has helped me learn so much during the games progression. Keep it up.
Your content is corporate software developer level quality. You picked a professional formula that works and have stuck with it for consistency and to compare apples with apples. It’s truly impressive, man. Kudos.
Very important to point out, for the new players, that this is very patch specific info, as in the heading, and will change in upcoming patches, as they are mid-pass on a rebalance of components. As for QT, different folks will have different uses, and may need better fuel economy for longer range, whether that is for mining, trading, or bounty hunting players around the verse. Thanks for the info Sub.
If it weren't for your videos I think there would be no easy to understand explanation of components anywhere on the internet. I like your "teach a man to fish" approach which helps us understand both the what and the why for choosing our own components. Thanks Sub
The Argo stock has better stealth than a grade A upgraded stealth bomber but there are a few stealth comps that fit on it. Its hard to lock near larger ships. You will see the bright orange paint before the radar sees its sig. During XT the reds mostly ignored the argos running the QT volatile cargo.
Unless it's changed... Your stealth is based on the highest value of EM or IR. So if your ship has a large IR signature (which I don't think you can do much about) it doesn't matter how many super stealthy EM components you throw on it.
@@SubliminaLstv like when I was outfitting my MSR I had an IR signature of X, I didn't need to buy a second stealth shield because my EM was already below the IR. So just telling people to throw a bunch of stealth components on isn't 100% the solution. I'm just saying you did not mention limiting factors like that. If someone goes 100% stealth components they maybe are leaving performance on the table?
Really hope they come back big with a diverse component list in .15 that is different from before but returns to a system where shields & ballistics are not insulting.
Can you clarify your statements about stealth? In the size three sections, you say a couple times that "Stealth is futile" while, in the beginning section you suggest that greater stealth as a reason to change some components. thanks
Sure. Stealth for ships that require size three components is futile. Size 2 and below can benefit. Even CIG knows this because there are no size three stealth components.
i put an omnisky IX and two M4A's on my otherwise stock Nomad and got a system overheat failure that shut my ship off all my ship's systems just shooting a few rounds after leaving atmo. that's not cooler related?
So I was on Microtech and had just purchased the Nomad, completely stock loadout. I left the hangar and pointed up at 90 degrees and throttled up my thrusters to max...about 8000-9000 meters it over heated and I started to spiral back down to the Hangar building, luckily I was able to get the engines restarted about 2000 meters up, but it was close. After that I went in, bought new power and cooling components that weren't complete crap and was able to take off without overheating and nearly crashing. So yeah, components are important. :)
Good guide but there are a couple things missed. First off, there have never been any size three stealth components. Stealth is a feature of ships with small and medium components exclusively. Secondly and more importantly, there are indeed coolers other than stealth that work for stealth builds. Stealth coolers only drop your IR by a couple hundred points, which in a small ship being ranged by a small ship, only makes a difference of about 100 meters or 1/10 km. With two coolers your detection range would be changed by twice that, which is still not great compensation for the limitations on stealth coolers. One of the things many stealth pilots will look at are the Grade A industrial coolers since they have the highest cooling rate. So instead of having a slightly lower IR, you can double the rate you lose heat and get down to stealth signatures, below 6,000 for a small ship and below 9,000 for a medium ship )which corresponds to detection range by a small ship of 3 km and 4.5 km respectively. The rate you lose heat can determine when you can reenter stealth, so chose wisely.
I hope this doesn't come across as defensive but almost everything you've said here is certainly false and maybe one plausible thing. I am aware there are no size three components. I'm simply stating that stealth in this patch is one of the only important metrics and for size three components there is no need to upgrade to lower your signature. I stated that upgrading to stealth coolers would yield low benefits to your signature. To my knowledge extra cooling gives zero benefit including lowering your sig over time signature faster. Is this something you've actually tested in game or assumed by looking at data on the DPS calculator? It seems plausible but it was not the case when I tested coolers. Also your detection range math is incorrect. In 3.14 it is a 1:1 calculation. So if the highest of your EM/IR is 3000 then your detectable at 3000m. The last part is something I haven't tested in a while but is pretty well known. The signature you see on your MFD is not the one players see. At least at this time last year if your IR was X at startup (after it settles) that is what another player sees when you enter their radar and then it would start dropping from there. However NPCs see you at your MFD signatures. This game is ever changing so you have to retest things at least every year before you state them as fact.
FYI: When discussing shield generators, your text says "What coolers should I use?". There are also a few typos on other screens. Minor quibbles, but they do detract from your otherwise high production values. I know that I personally have a hard time proof-reading my own writing - my mind fills in what I meant, not what I actually typed. Do you have anyone who can watch your videos before publishing just to double-check the text?
Yep hundreds of channel supporters have early access to view it before it goes live and stuff squeezes buy. It's a very small percentage of people who catch things like that. Unfortunately I'm not one of them. My wife is but she can't give less of a f@$k lol. Also with heavy after effects like this video has (text animations, graphics, etc.) I have to make the decision to either leave the typo or spend another 1-2 hours fixing then re-encoding/uploading. It's almost never worth it. I typically only spend the time to fix them if it gives false info or is really hard or impossible to figure out that it was a mistake. As a designer while I'm proofing my videos there are sooo many things in looking at that that camouflages error like that. Plus I'm pretty sure I have ADHD lol. Anyway thanks for letting me know.
Question concerning QDrives: I usually prefer a fuel efficient civilian drive over a military, even if there is enough fuel for the faster military version - my reason is, that I usually do Bounty Hunting around one planet and only cross the system maybe once a day. So I do a lot of short hops. And the civilian drives have a much faster spin up time and the actual Q speed is almost irrelevant. I did not do any comparisons this patch, do you know if my Info is still valid?
It might be I haven't done much testing. I do agree that spool up time is an important metric from some. People want to run away faster. I personally want to stay and fight. That's why I said it's personal preference. But I will honestly look into it. Maybe do some testing in the verse.
@@bastiandoen2583 do you have any updates on this issue? Since I am looking for a QT drive that calibrates faster. I tested three different ones but they are almost identical in their calibration times...
Have you consider these changes are temporarily? Do you happen to know anyone evolve in testing 3:15 if so will the components remain in this testing state?
Yes... Everything is temporary in the games alpha development. If creators only made content on permanent things there would be no content to make about SC.
ive got a question about the 300i series so u buy it without customization can u then customize it in the game and with customizing i mean the color interior color intirior extras etc
I would actually disagree on the JS-300 recommendation for Size 1 powerplant - the QuadraCell has a lower output, but it's only a small amount, and I've never found a ship that needs the extra power provided by the JS. Meanwhile, the QuadraCell has a noticeably lower EM signature (Bucc equipped with all FL-series laser cannons and otherwise stock loadout goes from 20k EM sig to more like 16.7k) - the reduction might not make much tangible difference in practice, but I always wonder after dodging a close EM missile if it might have hit me had my EM signature been 15% higher.
@@SubliminaLstv IR would be 13.8k, so lower than EM. I was less worried about general detection range anyway (if I'm going stealth, I'll take a Talon or something dedicated to it), and more worried about ability to dodge EM-seeking missiles.
Yes all components in an archetype have the same stealth emissions. LOL so it's not worth using stealth... I mentioned this 100 times in this vid. Stealth grade A are essentially the same as military grade A in recent patches so it's not the end of the world if you use it. Because things keep changing I keep my website updated for loadouts. sub@subliminal.gg/loadouts
Meanwhile, back in Star Citizen... we are getting "Helloween Bear Masks" for sale, made a video review on them: ruclips.net/video/hLGM0d_hu9s/видео.html There's a weird bug right now that kinda allows you to get a the -20% discount on a single mask!
I wish they didn't tell us there was going to be a wipe so early, I pretty much stopped playing knowing a wipe is just around the corner. Took the wind right out of my sails- but im stoked for 3.15 of course.
@@SubliminaLstv As a Saber main, I've just decided to run from them. They usually do the hit and run tactic and by the time you turn around to attack or lock onto them, their already off radar 😑.
It's a common myth. It could stem from a past build. I just learned while writing this script that the power priority menu (the one where you can sort your components and weapons by priority) actually works this patch. I found out it worked because some guy who's been playing for a week came into chat and told me. I would have never known because for the last three years I've been playing this game the feature didn't work. Not only this but the menu UI has never changed so why would I think it changed lol. Anyway this is the life of playing an open development game.
For the past ~2 years insurance claims cover components. I can't believe that I still get this comment. (I mean no disrespect I just wish this was more widely known.)
This is without doubt the best and most informative star citizen RUclips channel about, absolutely fantastic content which has helped me learn so much during the games progression. Keep it up.
Thank you for the info and essentially saving us credits....Keep making content it's always top quality!
Thanks for watching!
Great info on components, always like your guides!
Thanks for watching!
Your content is corporate software developer level quality. You picked a professional formula that works and have stuck with it for consistency and to compare apples with apples. It’s truly impressive, man. Kudos.
Thanks. Glad you like it! Thanks for watching!
Very important to point out, for the new players, that this is very patch specific info, as in the heading, and will change in upcoming patches, as they are mid-pass on a rebalance of components. As for QT, different folks will have different uses, and may need better fuel economy for longer range, whether that is for mining, trading, or bounty hunting players around the verse. Thanks for the info Sub.
If it weren't for your videos I think there would be no easy to understand explanation of components anywhere on the internet.
I like your "teach a man to fish" approach which helps us understand both the what and the why for choosing our own components. Thanks Sub
Glad I can help.
Great info as always. Thanks for your hard work!
Thanks for watching!
Great info yet again. Keep doing what you do!
That is for watching!
@@SubliminaLstv I watched ;) I was wondering how you would use the footage from the distortion test.
Nice Guide, I always upgrade my components for sure.
Nice
So I started laughing at work after I heard "The Bolon stinks like Colon". Now everybody thinks I'm insane. Thanks Subliminal! :D
ROFL!
When can we expect the Argo Cargo loadout video? 🤣
Been thinking about making a parody video lol. Equipped with citizens with holding rail guns. 😂
I can see that you're a man of culture. 😁
The Argo stock has better stealth than a grade A upgraded stealth bomber but there are a few stealth comps that fit on it. Its hard to lock near larger ships. You will see the bright orange paint before the radar sees its sig. During XT the reds mostly ignored the argos running the QT volatile cargo.
What a great channel, thank you!
Good advise!
Unless it's changed... Your stealth is based on the highest value of EM or IR. So if your ship has a large IR signature (which I don't think you can do much about) it doesn't matter how many super stealthy EM components you throw on it.
That's why I said stealth signatures and not IR or EM specifically. This patch it is now a 1:1 ratio for distance for all sized scanners.
@@SubliminaLstv like when I was outfitting my MSR I had an IR signature of X, I didn't need to buy a second stealth shield because my EM was already below the IR. So just telling people to throw a bunch of stealth components on isn't 100% the solution. I'm just saying you did not mention limiting factors like that. If someone goes 100% stealth components they maybe are leaving performance on the table?
Really hope they come back big with a diverse component list in .15 that is different from before but returns to a system where shields & ballistics are not insulting.
Every time I hear this cats voice. I hear the " Bolon stinks like Colon". I just can't move past this. Nothing else matters.
Can you clarify your statements about stealth? In the size three sections, you say a couple times that "Stealth is futile" while, in the beginning section you suggest that greater stealth as a reason to change some components. thanks
Sure. Stealth for ships that require size three components is futile. Size 2 and below can benefit. Even CIG knows this because there are no size three stealth components.
Thanks buddy.
Thanks for watching!
Are components working in 3.24? Do you have a video where you go over your testing?
i put an omnisky IX and two M4A's on my otherwise stock Nomad and got a system overheat failure that shut my ship off all my ship's systems just shooting a few rounds after leaving atmo. that's not cooler related?
So I was on Microtech and had just purchased the Nomad, completely stock loadout. I left the hangar and pointed up at 90 degrees and throttled up my thrusters to max...about 8000-9000 meters it over heated and I started to spiral back down to the Hangar building, luckily I was able to get the engines restarted about 2000 meters up, but it was close.
After that I went in, bought new power and cooling components that weren't complete crap and was able to take off without overheating and nearly crashing. So yeah, components are important. :)
Aspiring citizen here, do you have to rebuy components if your ship is destroyed? Or is it a once you have them you always do *until a wipe that is*
Good guide but there are a couple things missed. First off, there have never been any size three stealth components. Stealth is a feature of ships with small and medium components exclusively. Secondly and more importantly, there are indeed coolers other than stealth that work for stealth builds. Stealth coolers only drop your IR by a couple hundred points, which in a small ship being ranged by a small ship, only makes a difference of about 100 meters or 1/10 km. With two coolers your detection range would be changed by twice that, which is still not great compensation for the limitations on stealth coolers. One of the things many stealth pilots will look at are the Grade A industrial coolers since they have the highest cooling rate. So instead of having a slightly lower IR, you can double the rate you lose heat and get down to stealth signatures, below 6,000 for a small ship and below 9,000 for a medium ship )which corresponds to detection range by a small ship of 3 km and 4.5 km respectively. The rate you lose heat can determine when you can reenter stealth, so chose wisely.
I hope this doesn't come across as defensive but almost everything you've said here is certainly false and maybe one plausible thing. I am aware there are no size three components. I'm simply stating that stealth in this patch is one of the only important metrics and for size three components there is no need to upgrade to lower your signature. I stated that upgrading to stealth coolers would yield low benefits to your signature. To my knowledge extra cooling gives zero benefit including lowering your sig over time signature faster. Is this something you've actually tested in game or assumed by looking at data on the DPS calculator? It seems plausible but it was not the case when I tested coolers. Also your detection range math is incorrect. In 3.14 it is a 1:1 calculation. So if the highest of your EM/IR is 3000 then your detectable at 3000m. The last part is something I haven't tested in a while but is pretty well known. The signature you see on your MFD is not the one players see. At least at this time last year if your IR was X at startup (after it settles) that is what another player sees when you enter their radar and then it would start dropping from there. However NPCs see you at your MFD signatures. This game is ever changing so you have to retest things at least every year before you state them as fact.
Thanks Sub!
Thanks for watching!
Is it possible to make a Video about the Rattlers? I dont seem to get the point of em.
Maybe after I see some changes to the variety of missiles. Missiles seem like a baseline like other components and weapons.
FYI: When discussing shield generators, your text says "What coolers should I use?". There are also a few typos on other screens. Minor quibbles, but they do detract from your otherwise high production values. I know that I personally have a hard time proof-reading my own writing - my mind fills in what I meant, not what I actually typed. Do you have anyone who can watch your videos before publishing just to double-check the text?
Yep hundreds of channel supporters have early access to view it before it goes live and stuff squeezes buy. It's a very small percentage of people who catch things like that. Unfortunately I'm not one of them. My wife is but she can't give less of a f@$k lol. Also with heavy after effects like this video has (text animations, graphics, etc.) I have to make the decision to either leave the typo or spend another 1-2 hours fixing then re-encoding/uploading. It's almost never worth it. I typically only spend the time to fix them if it gives false info or is really hard or impossible to figure out that it was a mistake. As a designer while I'm proofing my videos there are sooo many things in looking at that that camouflages error like that. Plus I'm pretty sure I have ADHD lol. Anyway thanks for letting me know.
Awesome video! Where can I find the information on the Pallisade having more ballistic resist?
Erkul.games
@@SubliminaLstv I was looking there. As I swap from one shield to another, I am not seeing what stat shows that.
I think he calls it physical absorption.
@@SubliminaLstv Thank you! I see it now. The normal for S1 seems to be 50-95%, but Pallisade is 70-98%.
Correct. The Pali and the guardian are the only shields not to my knowledge with more than the 50-95%
This is great. I was just wondering if changing components was worth it.
3.16 components guide before new year? :)
Question concerning QDrives: I usually prefer a fuel efficient civilian drive over a military, even if there is enough fuel for the faster military version - my reason is, that I usually do Bounty Hunting around one planet and only cross the system maybe once a day. So I do a lot of short hops. And the civilian drives have a much faster spin up time and the actual Q speed is almost irrelevant. I did not do any comparisons this patch, do you know if my Info is still valid?
According to the DPS Calculator the military drives have the shorter spool up time. The Atlas and Voyage I recommend are civilian.
@@SubliminaLstv Spool up time maybe, but Calibration (?) - the one on the left - seems to be much slower with military.
It might be I haven't done much testing. I do agree that spool up time is an important metric from some. People want to run away faster. I personally want to stay and fight. That's why I said it's personal preference. But I will honestly look into it. Maybe do some testing in the verse.
@@bastiandoen2583 do you have any updates on this issue? Since I am looking for a QT drive that calibrates faster. I tested three different ones but they are almost identical in their calibration times...
@@moeb1us I think currently there is no or very minor differences, maybe I confused s1 and s2 drives or so. Or it changed from one patch to another.
Have you consider these changes are temporarily? Do you happen to know anyone evolve in testing 3:15 if so will the components remain in this testing state?
Yes... Everything is temporary in the games alpha development. If creators only made content on permanent things there would be no content to make about SC.
@@SubliminaLstv good point… indeed you are correct.
I'm not sure what 3.15 is going to have in store for 3.15 we will have to see.
ive got a question about the 300i series so u buy it without customization can u then customize it in the game and with customizing i mean the color interior color intirior extras etc
The 300i cannot be customized in game yet.
I'm confused. Does all size three shields have the same hit points now? There's there's more to size three shields than regen time right?
Not in this patch they have been brought down to a baseline for balance testing.
@@SubliminaLstv At least we know that's temporary or there would be almost no point to upgrade.
Stealth to get close for the knife fight, I fought an arrow with Stealth Loudoun, had trouble tracking as he got only a few km away.
Agreed.
I would actually disagree on the JS-300 recommendation for Size 1 powerplant - the QuadraCell has a lower output, but it's only a small amount, and I've never found a ship that needs the extra power provided by the JS. Meanwhile, the QuadraCell has a noticeably lower EM signature (Bucc equipped with all FL-series laser cannons and otherwise stock loadout goes from 20k EM sig to more like 16.7k) - the reduction might not make much tangible difference in practice, but I always wonder after dodging a close EM missile if it might have hit me had my EM signature been 15% higher.
But what is the IR in that scenario? It its higher then the EM doesn't matter.
@@SubliminaLstv IR would be 13.8k, so lower than EM. I was less worried about general detection range anyway (if I'm going stealth, I'll take a Talon or something dedicated to it), and more worried about ability to dodge EM-seeking missiles.
is there an updates as of 3.17 that make part of the infos from this video obsolete?
Yes all components in an archetype have the same stealth emissions. LOL so it's not worth using stealth... I mentioned this 100 times in this vid. Stealth grade A are essentially the same as military grade A in recent patches so it's not the end of the world if you use it. Because things keep changing I keep my website updated for loadouts. sub@subliminal.gg/loadouts
I upgrade components so the next time I play the game... THE GAME DELETES THEM & PISSES ME OFF!
sukoran ok still or poo poo for an S2 shield gen?
Pooh pooh
Now shields have different shield pools so they turn relevant to switch
Why did they get rid of the Sukoran's 100% ballistic resistance??
Not sure. It could be unintentional.
@@SubliminaLstv we should ask them
Meanwhile, back in Star Citizen... we are getting "Helloween Bear Masks" for sale, made a video review on them: ruclips.net/video/hLGM0d_hu9s/видео.html There's a weird bug right now that kinda allows you to get a the -20% discount on a single mask!
I'm not upgrading anything until after the wipe now. Lol
But then how will you know what's good to equip when aUEC will be scarce again? Ohhh just watch my videos lol. JK I completely understand.
I wish they didn't tell us there was going to be a wipe so early, I pretty much stopped playing knowing a wipe is just around the corner. Took the wind right out of my sails- but im stoked for 3.15 of course.
Arrow + Stealth = Annoying to fight!
Agreed, lol. If you can't beat em' join em' 😂
@@SubliminaLstv As a Saber main, I've just decided to run from them. They usually do the hit and run tactic and by the time you turn around to attack or lock onto them, their already off radar 😑.
Components and weapons are in a sad state in 3.14. I hope they'll rebalance everything quickly.
I wouldn't say it's sad. It's just dull. But it's part of the process of balancing.
@@SubliminaLstv Yes, 'dull' is a better world. English isn't my main language, that kind of nuance is still hard for me.
Ahh ok I see.
Grammar corrections - It's = it is, not possessive. You're = you are, not your.
Overclocking a powerplant effects your signature by alot
Nope...
@@SubliminaLstv I admit to being wrong, It used to, I even disabled 1 power plant to lower sig I see there is no point anymore
It's a common myth. It could stem from a past build. I just learned while writing this script that the power priority menu (the one where you can sort your components and weapons by priority) actually works this patch. I found out it worked because some guy who's been playing for a week came into chat and told me. I would have never known because for the last three years I've been playing this game the feature didn't work. Not only this but the menu UI has never changed so why would I think it changed lol. Anyway this is the life of playing an open development game.
I don't upgrade anything that isn't covered by an insurance claim. 30K's drive me mildly crazy.
For the past ~2 years insurance claims cover components. I can't believe that I still get this comment. (I mean no disrespect I just wish this was more widely known.)
@@SubliminaLstv ...well, I've been educated. Thank you.
No problem, this is what I do.
First o7
Confirmed!