Plating our boat's hull - Ep. 9
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- In this episode we add in the stringers and the side plating of the hull. We come across a few difficulties (as always) and show you what we did to make it work.
Our steel monstrosity is starting to take shape, and look like something that will hopefully one day float.
We started building in summer 2017 and this video was taken in spring 2018. Since then we've moved the boat from the shed you see here to a boatyard. We have experienced some major setbacks with some crucial parts that were badly made and have decided to move house etc. We're still working on the project, but both having full time jobs we won't be breaking any records getting it done.
So there I was, having my morning coffee and this channel called sailing hunk f junk appears in my suggested video feed. One video and l’m hooked on your channel ! What you’re doing is awesome and very ambitious. Keep up the good work on the build and the videos
Cheers Matt! :)
Yes same here Matt! Inspirational! Least they have some warm weather coming..
I completely admire your courage...and the healthy back.
I miss you guys, one of the best documented BR projects on youtube!
This is flippin epic! More videos please when you can.
I looked at Bruce Roberts steel hulls several years ago, we conversed with him through emails and even purchased a set of drawings from him. Fate sneaked in and changed my course. I've watched a few builds of the Roberts hulls, I think even though yours are shorter in film time they are more informative as what "real" hurdles you are faced with. I thoroughly enjoyed watching them so far. Keep the films short and keep up the fantastic work.
I can't wait to see this thing in the water.
Looking good!
These kits seem insanely difficult. Good job figuring it out.
They are insanely difficult if you follow your own route instead of the build instructions. Work from the bottom up people!
@@davewilliams6172 will you make video about price ?
Terrific. Thanks for the update.
good to see he videos coming out again....
Excellent build. There are so many wooden ship builds that it is refreshing to watch the construction of a steel vessel from a kit of parts. Looking forward to the next episode. Great work! J
Well done mate. I look at you guy a kinda think " I should have done the same in my 20's" keep living the dream.
Great effort guys, I have had a set of BR plans for a BR380 for over 25 years way before kits were offered. But that’s all I have. Bravo for taking the plunge. You will love the freedom when your on the water. Keep up the great work.👍🏼👍🏼🤙🏼
Ah cool! Thanks Nick, will be awesome when we finally make it to the water!
Very happy news!
Great videos guys, looks like an extremely steep learning curve. Best of British!
I just recently discovered your channel. Working my way through the whole series... binging. I love it ! Impressive project and very nicely documented. Good entertainment. Best of luck with the rest.
Cheer Christian, good to have you on board!
Awesome work you guys. Glad to see an update.
Cheers Dan!
I love your periodic updates - good luck with the build as you fit out the interior!
Great to see you again. Haven’t watched this video yet but will do later tonight. 😀👍🏻
You guys are a great couple. It is a joy to watch you work cleverly through all these serious issues with great endurance and enthusiasm. What a satisfaction to see the shape of the boat appear😀
Cheers
Cheers, it was pretty satisfying when we got to this point!
Excellent. I am still in awe of what you two are doing. Cheers, Paul
Thanks Paul, hope you're good! how's things with Serenity?! We definitely miss being close to our boat, smart boat there!
@@SailingHunkofJunk Work on Serenity is going slowly. But I am very lucky in that I basically have her in my back garden now. You might still beat me into the water ;)
Thumbs up from me - Interesting video.... You are making excellent progress...
great video - new subscriber!
Keep having fun!
thanks for the video looks great
Great video!
The old girl is coming together quite well 👍
Wow Beautiful! Exciting to see the shape ... She will be a Beauty!
You two have covered a lot of ground. Good to catch up with you again. Thank you for the video and keep pushing ahead. It might be a little longer but you'll be in the water soon enough. Take care, be safe and stay well.
Wow, what a difference, hey there’s a boat in there! Very nice work, you should be very proud of yourselves, I know I am! So nice to see you two again!
I really like this channel. We need more content please. You guys are doing a great job on the boat and editing has has improved a lot. Don't be scared or shy.
Thank you for sharing what you can
Just discovered this channel on my feed this morning but I’ve binged up to Ep.9 by 1pm! Excellent watching, full marks for problem solving and also for your patience (not least with the supplier). Reading between the lines it sounds as though you are further on by now, good luck with it.
Cheer Karl!
I watched a similar build by two from Alberta Canada over maybe 2 years back in 2001/2. Interesting to see you slaving away but she is coming along very well. All the best and keep the video coming. Maybe see you in New Zealand on your world tour.
Beautiful puzzle.
Loving your videos cant wait for the next one...
Good job thinking through the problems! We didn't have pre-cut plates when we plated Lady Dew so if an issue such as sagging had crept in we never knew it LOL
Same here, no pre-cut plates with my Roberts so I just overlapped the ends a little and trimmed them with the plasma cutter! Still lined up pretty well though - I Think! :-). Cheers, Garry.
@@garrychapple6418 Exactly! And if anyone breaks out a tape measure checking to see if everything is perfect, I run them off the site! :D
Big shoutout from SteelAway - Building a Dream here! Going well guys, great to see progress on the hull plating, looking forward to the next video. I'm just getting going again on my build as the monsoon rains have stopped and weather has dried up. Sunny days ahead for the next 5-6 months!
Great work, thanks for sharing it with us.
I'm very glad to see you two have persevered. Best of luck solving the issues which I'm sure may still crop up. You're an inspiration to us all!
Proper job...great series to watch.
Great work. Keep the videos coming!
Great Job!
Great work 🙂
Really like the project. Love your narration. Explaining what has worked well and not so well is interesting. Great job. Looking forward to future episodes. Thanks for sharing!
Woo keep it up!
Awesome. All the best brother
Cheers!
Well who's a clever lad then. Just stumbled across your channel today on Ep 9. Was so interesting I just binge watched the first 8 and subscribed. Looking forward to seeing it finished. Very good explanations on what your doing even I can understand it, almost
Thanks for the kind words and the SUB!
This i sooo nice to watch!
I wish I would have done this 20 years ago, instead of bying an old project where I ended up putting in the same amount of work and still walk down compromise alley.
One thing that I liked on my shooner though was that the cooler for the engine was built into the keel, that took away the need for a thru- hole/heat exchanger and seawater pump. Something I would recomend...
But I will enjoy following this project.
Thanks! We are considering keel cooling :)
اعجبني عملك واقدر هذا المجهود ،بالتوفيف يا صديقي
Just stumbled on this channel. What a project you have dude. I love watching boat building you probably know the tally ho project on RUclips. Ive never really seen small scale steal boat construction like this before and it's supper interesting. I'm a welder my self mainly vehicle registration and before that on agricultural machinery but this is making me question my career choice. Keep the episodes coming dude
Great video guys! Can't wait to see more
Nice work Again!!
Great job guys! I learnt a lot and very inspiring ! I am preparing for an interview for marine structural design job and your video was very helpful in terms of installation/production aspects. God bless and enjoy.
This may be a bit radical, but if you can't sort it out with those radius plates, would you consider cutting strips of metal sheet same way you would with wooden planks, weld strip after strip to close the gap. Perhaps not the best idea but functional and at least one to consider.
Nice work! one comment though, cut outs from structural members should not have any sharp corners but all should be cut out rounded, or if you need the corner (e.g. for a door) then the corner still mus the rounded out further into the bulkhead and later on covered again. This all the prevent any notch effect and propagating crack. Keep going!
Thanks for the heads up, we have since rounded the corners to stop the stress riser. Good spot!
Great to see it's back
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Love it you guys are doing a great job short , concise,to the point ,
you appeared this morning on my feed just finished binge watching all eps can't wait for more ,I was going to do the same build many years ago but got stopped in my tracks by a major back injury so get her done while you are young and fit.
cheers from Australia
Thanks Andrew! such a shame about the back injury, is your back ok now?!
I got crushed under a fuel tank at work when I was 28 am now 56I have endured 3 major surgeries so far and live a life on pain killers but I am still hoping to get back on the water one day that's why I say get her done,be careful while you are doing it so you can finish the boat and get to enjoy it,while you can because you just never know when something bad is going to happen
Great job! From Brasil!
i wish for more content. Its my only complaint. great job figuring it out and cant wait to see the next installment.
I did a boat-building apprenticeship with McMullin & Wing. We built steel and alloy yachts.
OK this is how we did plate rolling. The plates where typically small - a 2400mm x 1200mm cut to 2400mm x 600mm. You need to divide and conquer here - small plates
First we made a vertical plywood pattern for each frame - our frames where 400mm apart - you could put in more frames just in the aft section. We also cut longitudinal patterns about 150mm apart where the plate was to sit.
Two men would hand wheel the plate in a standard wheeling machine - stopping every few minutes to check the templates against markings on the plate - black marker.. if you have not got a wheeling machine or do not want to buy one they are easy to make - sheet steel 2 wheels and a truck jack
Off course you have the great advantage with steel because you can use heat and a hammer to get the final fit.
Hope this helps
great job well done
Very good excellent job
Long time, between vids but well worth the wait. Wish there was more 👌🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
Great job on a tough project -- all metal boat costs must be through the roof though!
Now that is an angle grinder!
Just power watched your whole channel, very interesting, keep up the great work and videos. I subscribed, happy building, :)
Regular updates to get to know you a little better would be appreciated, and would be better for your channel. Enjoy watching your project thanks
excellent content as always .. just a pity we need to wait a long time between videos but they are worth the wait so thank you
Bro the proper way of building steel boats :
Metal sheets must start and end on vertical frames. No sheet joints should be allowed unsupported. This will cause distortion with weathering and long term stress . All metal sheets should be cut an shaped on plywood models first. But you did a quite good job if it's for personal use.
Press on great music.
Anthony
just binge watched all your videos, I'm loving the content. Prlobably other people thinking of making their own boat are wondering how many hours you both spend working on it, and what kind of background you have. Keep up the awesome work!
thanks Ben! we'll be covering this in videos soon :)
Enjoy watching your progress. Would like to see linger videos.
Doing great
I bet it was fun doing this part of the build, especially after finding the sag and every thing started to line up properly. That probably relieved a lot of stress. Looking good. So have you set up in the boat and pretended you where sailing yet??? LOL
it was pretty fun! and yes we have 😂😂
It's great to see things coming together. You guys do such a good job on problem solving. Look forward to the next video. What is your goal for in the water complete ready to sail?
Thanks Mark! Not a clue really at the moment!
Great videos. Not too much blathering, great content, fascinating enterprise. Please don't fall in the trap of the average "sailing" channel where people upload regularly even when they don't have content.
It would be interesting to know how you got your welder skills, and to have (rough) cost and time estimates (planned and actual) some day.
Congratulations.
Hold fast!
Hey Phil, our thoughts exactly! 😂we are planning on making these videos!
Looks like you two will be out sailing before "Acorn to Arabella" ever finishes planking, if they ever finish.
Well, I could not have been more wrong. This channel has died, no videos, no work on the boat... nothing. It's probably a hunk of scrap metal rusting somewhere. Meanwhile, Acorn to Arabella has made tremendous progress.
Great vids. I dont know who could be thumbs down
Use vertical tag strips not flat, that gives you movement and flex. Easier to remove with a good hammer blow
Great progress! Please wear a respirator for grinding and welding! A little more light would make your footage look much better by the way.
Top work 👍 video came up as suggested and I've just watched all the others 😎
Have you built a boat before? I love your approach to problems solving looks like she's a fun learning curve 😁
Cheers! It's our first boat build so in at the deep end haha. Duncan had done a bit of welding beforehand, he's a full time welder now alongside the boat build!
Wonderful project! Big admiration for you here! Great build talent. Do you know how to sail?
Thanks! Yes Duncan does very well and I do vaguely haha
Need much more bracing steel , need to anchor that boat to the floor we do every frame both sides and at the keel to stop here moving especially when the welding starts
Thanks for the great video love filling your progress .. will go back and watch all the other episodes...why did you decide to build from scratch and not by all ready made boat
Thanks! Lots of reasons, we'll be making a video about this at some point :) we wouldn't have been able to afford to go out and buy exactly what we wanted and this way we get to learn new skills and we'll know the boat inside out and trust it because we made it!
Making progress!
Newbie question, but the sheets are lying flat but looked shaped once they're hoisted? Did I miss something? It's going to be a hell of a boat - great skills and confidence!
they are flat plates (but flexible) they take on a bit of shape when we attach them to the hull. Any more shape than this and they would have to be formed/ rolled like the radius plates which go on later :)
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Big thumbs up to what you guys are doing, I was only day dreaming the other day of a poss self build steel Ebbtide 36 and cost/hours etc. Then you pop up on youtube. What steel thickness in the BR 38.
thanks :) the steel is 4mm-6mm, we have a video all about the kit
Wow, epic build. This is my first video of yours to see. I'm sure I'm asking questions answered elsewhere. What thickness is the steel on the hull? What welding process are you using? (MIG is my guess). This was a kit?
Thanks, we have a video all about the kit :) Using MIG and yep its a kit
Sorted the previous issues with the yard? Seem to recall major issues on the transom.
Hi Looking great! When you buy a Bruce Roberts cut file do they recommend shops to cut them? Also, was the steel wheelabrated then coated? What is the coating on it? Sry for all the questions
If you email Bruce from his website he'll probably direct you towards something in your region. The steel was all shot blasted and coated with a weld primer called "sigmaweld"
What thickness of steel plate are you using please?
The follow up on the issues you had early on are a bit confusing. What happend to the side plate issue ? Was it their fault , your fault ? You received new plates but that still didn't fit so what happend next ? Great job I'll be waiting for the next vids ;)
Thanks Rob, we've had new radius plates and it looks like they fit! (we managed to fit some of them and check but not all). It was their fault! admitted to corrupted cnc files. Looks good now anyway, just waiting for lock down to be over + some decent weather so we can get cracking on it again in Kent and move the boat to Wales
My friends are selling there bruce Robert's spray, there wanting £70k, at the moment there in inverness waiting for the quarantine to end. She was built by a ship yard in the north east of england, approximately 45 feet ketch.
If you were building a sky scraper would you clad the top ten stories before doing the bottom...NO!
You have already had problems with the keel plates sagging so why compound the problem by putting the weight on the top first?
theres wisdom in that.
How far are you with the aft of the boat? Well de prefab of such parts are always difficult but they dont look very bad. Im a shipbuilder myself. I know the struggles. If you need any advise contact me. You are doing a great job sofar! Keep it up!
Or i could come to you and do some voluntary work and help you out.
Thanks :) We haven't got any further than the update video (apart from looks like we now have the correct radius plates) ruclips.net/video/2zmlBEeeT1U/видео.html
Waiting on lock down to end so we can get back to it!
WELL.......... IM WAITING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UP DATE. IT'S NOVEMBER.
😂😂
We want ep 10
I have to wonder why you didn’t put the pre-shaped pieces in first, adding a lot of weight and noticing the sagging, those pieces might have added some more rigidity.
just watched the latest update, so the fit was ruined by corrupt CNC files. I guess it was good after all to not put these in first.
How is the boat progressing? Are there anymore vids coming?