The Most Unique Water Well System Ever Seen! 80 Year Old Electric Well Pump! Trying to Update it.

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Комментарии • 752

  • @stanleyedwards3023
    @stanleyedwards3023 10 месяцев назад +173

    Early Gould pump jacks used leather seals, these pumps dated back to the 30’s. Gould still makes quality pumps, my Dad was on board of directors many years ago.

    • @lancereagan3046
      @lancereagan3046 10 месяцев назад +14

      I used to install and service Goulds Pumps back in the early/mid 1980's.

    • @BCHonea
      @BCHonea 10 месяцев назад +17

      I love how comments on RUclips bring historical connections like this. Cheers to your pops

    • @kd5crw
      @kd5crw 10 месяцев назад +16

      They make most of them cheap in China now. Motors too. Sad to see another once good company selling junk and coasting on their name.

    • @Look_What_You_Did
      @Look_What_You_Did 10 месяцев назад +17

      It's just a name today. Another brand purchased by investment firms and gutted.

    • @markarca6360
      @markarca6360 9 месяцев назад +7

      It was acquired by another company called Xylem.

  • @davidmark805
    @davidmark805 10 месяцев назад +22

    That pump needs to be restored and put on display.

  • @metallchips8569
    @metallchips8569 9 месяцев назад +26

    I have been machining for 20 years and spent several servicing water pumps for Municipals and Agriculture and goulds pumps are still in business. That pump should go to a museum.

  • @ford2n2003
    @ford2n2003 10 месяцев назад +204

    It's a rod pump. A wooden rod runs down the center of the pipe and operates a piston pump at the bottom of the pipe. The small broken plunger was an air pump to charge the water tank. An air release on the tank would keep it from becoming air bound. These pumps were very common as deep well pumps from the early 1900's until the 1960's, The part cut out was the check valve to prevent water backflow to the well.

    • @dnitchke
      @dnitchke 9 месяцев назад +6

      you are absolutely correct11

    • @ThatGuyFromArizona
      @ThatGuyFromArizona 9 месяцев назад +9

      This right here is what I love about this channel. There is so much knowledge and people happy to share.

    • @dennislee444
      @dennislee444 9 месяцев назад

      nope

    • @jasonschannel9017
      @jasonschannel9017 9 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@dennislee444That's not much of an argument.

    • @northface484
      @northface484 9 месяцев назад

      LOL...!!@@dennislee444

  • @stepheneskelson7774
    @stepheneskelson7774 10 месяцев назад +113

    Just pull the pipe out, change out the leathers and the bottom screen, reseal the threads, put in a new rod, some guide sleeves, put back down the hole and set it right, it'll last another 75 years.

    • @funnycatvideos5490
      @funnycatvideos5490 10 месяцев назад +39

      They don't know how to do that it's before their time so they basically disabled it and now they have nothing

    • @kevinroberts9394
      @kevinroberts9394 10 месяцев назад +22

      Looked like it was working fine. Just needed to repack the rod seal. The leathers were obviously still good as it pumped up. And it is really hard to pull good leathers. Don't see many of his videos but if his dad is still around he should remember pump Jack's and sucker rod. Last 1 I worked on we pulled over 200 ft of wooden rods. 1 broke and after changing the leathers 3 more times we learned that you have to put it back to the exact same depth in the smooth part of the casing or it will tear the leathers up in a day that jack is not as old as you may think if it is more than 25 foot deep a more reliable system that would have ran almost forever if properly maintained a couple times a year.

    • @ronblack7870
      @ronblack7870 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@kevinroberts9394 customer wanted more volume i bet . 30yrs ago i was in the exact same situation put our rod could be pulled out. 80 ft. it was only 2 inch pump. used 1/2 inch pipe as the pull rod. couldn't get enough water for modern living. maybe 1-2 gal / minute tops

    • @Auto-Tech-Matt
      @Auto-Tech-Matt 3 месяца назад +8

      If you watch till the end of the video he explains why the homeowner wanted a new well pump. It's an air bnb. That's why he was changing it out. So it could be easily serviced and sanitized.

    • @GW71093
      @GW71093 3 месяца назад +11

      I knew there’d be people in the comments complaining that they should have rebuilt this horrible contraption lol. Easy to say when you aren’t doing it, paying for it, or relying on it for your house.

  • @lancereagan3046
    @lancereagan3046 10 месяцев назад +23

    I bet Goulds/ ITT Corp. would love to have that pump mechanism in their museum. Or even the Seneca Falls Historical Society.

  • @HardDriveGuruOfficial
    @HardDriveGuruOfficial 9 месяцев назад +6

    Thank heavens this equipment is being kept in a collection! Losing such a beautiful peace of history would hurt my heart something fierce.

  • @marvlb
    @marvlb 9 месяцев назад +48

    We had a sucker rod pump exactly like that growing up on our farm in the 50’s. The leather seals would wear out and we would have to pull the rods. Each rod was about 12 feet long made of cypress cut into a one inch triangle with metal connectors screwed to each end that were screwed together to connect the rods. On one pull my dad lost grip on the rod and it fell into the well. He made hook out of a steel rod and ground a barb on the tip. We fished for the lost pump rod for hours and finally got and the lost rods out. I was so happy to see that rod come up out of the well, I must have been seven or eight years old at the time.

  • @chatrkat
    @chatrkat 10 месяцев назад +57

    This is probably your most interesting service call, but I always enjoy watching your videos. That old equipment is further proof how good old American machinery was made back when companies cared to, and could afford to built quality products. Most likely original capacitor on that Wagner motor too.

  • @jeffwxyz
    @jeffwxyz 9 месяцев назад +46

    Took something out that lasted 80 years and still working. It will be lucky if a new pump lasts 8 years.

    • @phenry5083
      @phenry5083 6 месяцев назад +1

      Good thing modern pumps have no problems lasting 50 years

    • @brando12343
      @brando12343 6 месяцев назад

      you can easily get 25+ years out of a quality modern pump

    • @kevamor
      @kevamor 2 месяца назад +8

      But why take one that that will outlast any new pump even after already used for 80 years? Should just rebuild all that in there, new seals fix that rod and get another 80 years.

    • @raxorlp9932
      @raxorlp9932 2 месяца назад +2

      @@brando12343 idk about that ^^

    • @rupe53
      @rupe53 Месяц назад

      @@kevamor The biggest problem with the old pump is it will NOT supply water at a rate suitable for today's demands. It was installed long before people had hot showers, flush toilets, and washing machines. Matter of fact, I doubt the well yield can keep up with a family of four, which will be over 400 gallons a day at today's standard.

  • @GrymWorks-A.I.
    @GrymWorks-A.I. 10 месяцев назад +24

    The Wagner motor
    Model G902 K4180
    The model # is *G902*
    The rest is a date code
    *K=November*
    *44=1944*
    *80=8th day*
    So, Wednesday November 8, 1944

    • @MrWolfSnack
      @MrWolfSnack 9 месяцев назад +6

      Wow built during the height of WW2. Just 3 days after that motor left the assembly line, the Allied troops bombed Iwo Jima. On the specific day it was made, Joseph Goebbels announced the V-2 rocket campaign.

    • @kittyfanatic1980
      @kittyfanatic1980 5 месяцев назад +1

      I get k4180 no real way to tell without it right in front of me if that last digit is a 1 or 4

    • @GrymWorks-A.I.
      @GrymWorks-A.I. 5 месяцев назад

      @@kittyfanatic1980Thats what I said.

  • @rex8255
    @rex8255 9 месяцев назад +65

    Let's give props to current and previous owners, who kept up the oil level AND passed on the information of how to do it.

  • @royreynolds108
    @royreynolds108 10 месяцев назад +80

    The chunk you threw down was the check valve. The sucker rod with the pump on the bottom should have come out by pulling on it. That is the way those pumps were supposed to be fixed or releathered. The numbers on the casting side is the pattern number for the casting instead of a date.
    Our house in MI had a reciprocating piston pump so the water level was less than 25 feet.

    • @ronblack7870
      @ronblack7870 9 месяцев назад +3

      i had one 80 ft deep

    • @buggsy5
      @buggsy5 9 месяцев назад +7

      You are limited to about 25 feet only if you have a suction pump, which that pump isn't. I don't know why you were unable to pull out the lift rod. The pump was lifting water, as proven by it building pressure in the water tank, so the piston at the bottom was free. It may be that there is corrosion above and below the area the piston contacts - it wouldn't take a lot to jamb the pipe.

    • @austinlloyd9757
      @austinlloyd9757 9 месяцев назад

      I agree with you a modern pump in 80 years will be fkd every😅5 t 7 years and then replace with more rubbish

  • @paulmaxwell8851
    @paulmaxwell8851 9 месяцев назад +5

    That is the coolest old setup I've ever seen. If it were mine I'd definitely restore it to like new.

  • @SledgeHammer43
    @SledgeHammer43 21 день назад

    Be nice to see you drill a new well for that site.

  • @iamdesertpaul
    @iamdesertpaul 10 месяцев назад +2

    I feel like Hand Tool Rescue would love this. The gismocity with this is incredible.

  • @walterochsner8145
    @walterochsner8145 10 месяцев назад +5

    Amazing what you find on old systems, that was state of the art at one time.

  • @stevenmoomey2115
    @stevenmoomey2115 Месяц назад +1

    Back in the mid to late 80’s I put a repair kit in one, just like that. I’m not a well guy, commercial HVAC. Southern Utilities recommend me, said I could repair anything, LOL. Got it running like new, and customer was happy.

  • @snicks50
    @snicks50 10 месяцев назад +28

    I have the same pump on my milk house. I was told it was 92 years old not sure. But still works as of today.

  • @donaldswett6210
    @donaldswett6210 10 месяцев назад +55

    Was a pretty common way to convert from windmill to electric pump using old sucker rod system. This being when rural electric power came to be. These old pumpjacks still show up in farm sales up here in the northern midwest.

    • @Chisos1
      @Chisos1 10 месяцев назад +11

      My aunt was still using her well with a pump jack up until she passed away 10 years ago. I still have the original windmill the jack replaced.

    • @aaronbrandenburg2441
      @aaronbrandenburg2441 9 месяцев назад +3

      Pump jack is the proper term for the device Shirley Coleman for converting a wind-driven pump AKA windmill operated pump such as these two Electric and yes on the world notification leading to this being converted to Electric Power.
      Once saw an old systemware firm power had been used as in DC low voltage surprisingly pretty much all the receptacles from the same as well as bulb bases so just be aware out there if you have some antique electrical equipment of various types and other devices check the voltage and sometimes things may be DC only as well.
      I was call bus and wanted and moved into a farm and what kind of baffled no power they could not find any indication that there was a connection to the grid but clearly at one point there was electricity and of course no meter nor normal service entrance.
      Even in ancient Antiquated one at all.
      However there was Warren running all over the place.
      Was checking things out where there was little white picture just looked in there add the bulb and said aha ha.
      Salsa appliances said ditto and so on right down to the old Kirby vacuum in the closet.
      Everything there was designed ran off low voltage DC.
      And was going around various places of the property shine my flashlight name of the outbuildings and said well there's your service entrance basically a big fuse board literally not even a fuse box just something that looks like more like out of Frankenstein not necessarily typical for the system but every once in a while you can see something like this apparently according to some old guys that still knew about this headband over the years.
      It was what was referred to as farm power I think it was 40 some odd bowls cannot remember what the voltage usually is.
      Don't think it was 36 but might have been at one point
      And the old batteries were still there even some of them still had acid in them!
      Glass jar lead acid batteries!
      There was a gasoline generator as well apparently that one was equipped for automatic start the thing is there were batteries but it is could be run by just turning on a load in the generator starting and of course topping up the batteries while in use the idea on that system was the batteries could be used without having the generator run constantly sometimes the generator was just ran by itself and other times it was a combination of batteries and in various different setups.
      By the way that place also had an acetylene generator for carbine lighting it looked as though they had used both not sure which was first or that originally it was gas but some of the fixtures had both Gas and Electric it's possible some of this was pre-wired for the system before it was installed don't know the full history of the place.
      For example the kitchens and acetylene gas stove that would have been run from the acetylene lighting plant did the settling generator was in a separate outbuilding that was essentially a big concrete box some people thought these were actually a storm shelter and in many cases were used for this after the system for the assembling lighting plant in head removed for good.
      Another interesting system that was on the property was using the some people call it Airgas but I'm not sure of the proper term for this.
      Essentially an underground giant enormous carburetor apparently would have wicks in there to get gasoline to pay for us and there would be some sort of lower possibly a Roots blower in some cases what are would be pumped into there and then the resulting air in fuel vapor what's my back and used for lighting.
      There was no connection as far as I know to the house with this but there was some stuff that was capped off maybe the acetylene have been used for one part and the other for another or one system superseded the other but I'm feeling they're both working around the same time period and there was a bit different fixtures and sometimes even electric and the two fixtures for these two different systems in the same building so hard to say what happened

    • @assyholey4224
      @assyholey4224 2 месяца назад +1

      The farm behind ours had alote of the same stuff in a shred behind the slave house big glass bottles with wires coming out the brick summer kitchen was bigger than some small homes.slave house has fire place so big it divided the house in halves.

  • @turnbullfl4114
    @turnbullfl4114 6 месяцев назад +8

    If I was homeowner, I would have said "Put it back together the way it was".

    • @phenry5083
      @phenry5083 6 месяцев назад

      No you wouldn’t have because that’s the risk you take with wells and you sign off on it before hand

    • @williamallen7836
      @williamallen7836 6 месяцев назад +5

      Why? Do you like an oil contaminated water supply? Rewatch the beginning when the pump kicked in. There's the unmistakable sheen of oil in the water that leaks past the pump. That oil comes from the open side of the gearbox. The oil gets splashed out. If the water leaks past the pump piston, then oil will leak down into the well when the pump stops. I don't care how robust that old system may be, it's a health hazard. Not to mention all the poison from all that rust. It's so rusted that you can't even repack the seals so it won't leak. The old pump had it's day, and Long life. It's time to move on to something that won't posion it's owners.

    • @kenwillis8487
      @kenwillis8487 6 месяцев назад +1

      They bought the house to rent out! I know from my past as a real estate agent that the well either passes or fails water quality and flow tests! I’m guessing the well failed inspection or the water samples fails due to oil and dirt contamination! It would have been a condition of the mortgage company that the well was replaced either b4 closing on the property or money was placed in escrow to pay for new well or retrofit of existing!

    • @williamallen7836
      @williamallen7836 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@kenwillis8487 Exactly. Just because an old item is robust, it does not mean it has not out lived it useful life or overall better in it's current use.

    • @Lunas2525
      @Lunas2525 Месяц назад

      The water was not safe to use as it was it was even stated in the video it would not pass current water standards. Also it was already partially broken and looked ready to break any time. Its just too bad we dont get to see them pulling out the 2 inch casing and drilling a new well

  • @rickatkins1493
    @rickatkins1493 10 месяцев назад +20

    Your solution is the only way that well can pass a Legit inspection. I lived in Virginia for many years, and I have dealt with a lot of inspectors. Great to see the old American made product steel functioning❤

    • @johnsmith7676
      @johnsmith7676 9 месяцев назад

      Inspections are for slaves. And, the ones mandating these "inspections" are your masters, and ANYTHING but legitimate.

  • @beingthere597
    @beingthere597 9 месяцев назад +28

    I remember that pump and the gawoosh-gawoosh sound it made. When I was a little kid (early 1950's) my grandparents had an insulated pump house on their farm that also served as a root cellar for my grandmother's canned vegetables and jellies. Big green-tint glass mason jars. The door to the pump house was thick and heavy and it was dark inside. I was really scared of that pump. Sometimes when it was quiet, I would crack the door and peek in for an adrenaline rush. When it came on, I would jump out of my skin, slam the door and run, hoping that monster wouldn't break free and chase me.

    • @superskunkygrow
      @superskunkygrow 3 месяца назад

      man oh man to be a kid again 😂😂😂😂

  • @calebmunch-ae0fp20
    @calebmunch-ae0fp20 9 месяцев назад +2

    In Mn, those are all over the upper nw corner of the state. They are called "pumpjacks". Our well was over 200' deep, and they do work!

  • @davida1hiwaaynet
    @davida1hiwaaynet 2 месяца назад

    Amazing effort to save this well. I'm delighted that you took video of the old pump working one last time.
    That whole place is a time capsule. It's great that the owner is keeping the old pump unit.

  • @donaldshimkus539
    @donaldshimkus539 9 месяцев назад +4

    The wildest one I ever saw was in a very old farm house. Water was pumped by a windmill and stored in the tank on the windmill. A pipe came from the tank to the attic and teed off for cold going down and the other side went into a copper lined box with a float valve (much like that in a toilet) in the attic. I figured this is how they got hot water most of the year.

  • @crabmanrockefeller9117
    @crabmanrockefeller9117 10 месяцев назад +18

    Agreed on the new well. However, I would try two hydraulic jacks and a jack plate to pull the casing (start the pull on the pump rods) or actually pull hard enough to break the casing free and pull the whole thing. Then you can cement it and do a decent P and A. Two 12 ton jacks and a jack plat would give you 24T of pull. 1" jack plate. Once the sucker rod breaks use that on the casing. 24 tons should get the casing moving then you should be able to pull it with a crane. Maybe more than 6000' crain.

    • @crabmanrockefeller9117
      @crabmanrockefeller9117 10 месяцев назад +4

      My fear is this well could cross flow and contaminate the new well. So casing jack out and proper PA.

  • @jamesanderson2176
    @jamesanderson2176 Месяц назад

    We had a very similar system at the barn in the 70's, although it went back long before that. It was used strictly to fill the stock tanks (flow only). I had no idea it was able to build pressure!

  • @tomgroenbeck7620
    @tomgroenbeck7620 10 месяцев назад +49

    My grandfather installed a hand operated well on his property around 1960 with a similar mechanism. The well was 90m deep, the water was around 18m below ground. They lowered a 4" pump cylinder on 1 1/4" galvanized pipe about 24m deep into an 8" well. The piston inside the cylinder was connected by a 3/8" rod to an arm at the top. You could buy these cast iron pumps in the hardware store, they were intended for water depths about 3m, with our setup it was extremely hard to pump (I as a kid was unable to push the arm down, I wasn't heavy enough). Later my dad converted to a submersible 3-phase pump with 4" diameter, we installed a 5" plastic casing inside and filled the gap with pea gravel. Still providing water for the lawn today. I came from Germany, so the house has 400V 3-phase power (230V per phase), and no fancy electronics box, just an old fashioned pressure switch with 3 contacts instead of 2.

    • @w124mercedes7
      @w124mercedes7 10 месяцев назад +20

      That old gould pump will probably outlast 2 modern pumps and around 80 years old now. American made used to mean something. America built products that were built to last and be serviced. I have a refrigerator and deep freezer built in the 30s and both work like new. We have a gas stove from the 30s and a pair of gas parlor stoves we use for heat and both work great. Everything was salvaged from. An old mansion and we're totally restored. You cant buy that kind of quality and reliability anymore.
      I restored cars for over 35 years and restored a 1953 caddilac and after we were done we were amazed how cold the ac system was in that car.
      On a 110 deg day the ac would freeze you out. Its a shame American made
      Isn't what it used to be. We used to build the best looking cars and now we build over priced plastic junk . Truly a shame.

    • @NemoBlank
      @NemoBlank 9 месяцев назад

      @@w124mercedes7 Hedge fund traitors and crooked politicians saw a way to get rich selling the rest of us out.

  • @DaveBooth-qs7sw
    @DaveBooth-qs7sw 10 месяцев назад +7

    When the deep well cylinder gets stuck in the well causing it takes lots of patience by pulling it up & pushing it down to clear & scrap some of the corrosion from the insides of the casing. It can take lots of time, but eventually with perseverance you will get the deep well cylinder out!

  • @Zappy1210
    @Zappy1210 Месяц назад

    My parents bought an old farm house in 1980. It had the exact same pump in a similar pump house. It wasn't in service and the house had a new well drilled. I wish now looking back I woulda saved that old pump. Would have made a great yard ornament in a pond or something.

  • @chuckpierce1905
    @chuckpierce1905 10 месяцев назад +2

    My parents'house in the 70's had the same setup and worked great! Theirs was in a vault that was located under ground and had a manhole cover for access.

  • @jim7smith
    @jim7smith 9 месяцев назад +3

    Shame that was rusted to ruin. Definitely a unique pumping system. Looks identical on a smaller scale to the oil well pumps I drive by in Texas

  • @stevelalondejr2183
    @stevelalondejr2183 10 месяцев назад +9

    Welcome to my world pump jacks, cylinders & leathers here are still a normal well pumping system. You might have fixed that with a different rig, tools & more knowledge of how they work and are put together you had plenty of pull though. I agree with the sanitize aspect to a point and they aren't major gpm units for pumping water but they'll make pressure when right. We have gas in some wells here and these will pump water and gas with a Hoffman 79 valve added to vent gas off. They are like a ship slow and steady time replaces speed/volumes or submersible pump type well system. It was working just needed some care and fixing a new well and system will help a rental system for sure. My oldest now 40 cussed me teaching him these type systems along with jet pumps etc but they make $$ when you are the only one able or willing to work on them ! Get a 6'-8' hoist chain 1/4''- 3/8'' high tensile and make a loop chain save yourself from nylon slingshots! At least you tried that's way more than most would do here and a good pump jacket still works and worth $$ saving getting hard to come by.

  • @drob5664
    @drob5664 10 месяцев назад +3

    Great find, it has been probably 35 years since I came across an old working jack pump.

  • @vickchester4285
    @vickchester4285 9 месяцев назад +25

    My dad built a pump system using a similar sucker rod pump It was very reliable, and used an electric pump to drive pump. This brought back some very fond and distant memories of my Dad and me working on and maintaining our pump system.

  • @jailbreakgamin1966
    @jailbreakgamin1966 10 месяцев назад +11

    you want a well thats reliable.. thats rich.. seeing it has been working 80 years ... no crap today would make it 1/3 as long ..

  • @robertmashburn5321
    @robertmashburn5321 10 месяцев назад +5

    Down in the bottom are leathers. They used the casing as the pump cylinder

    • @hermanschepers4739
      @hermanschepers4739 10 месяцев назад +1

      Cylinder was separate from casing and attached the pipe containing the sucker rod

  • @davidyansky6605
    @davidyansky6605 6 месяцев назад +1

    Had one similar to this on an old farmstead I bought. I built a new house but still kept the 60' well running for 20 years until the sandpoint failed and it started pumping up mud. It's still sitting in the well house, disconnected but works.

  • @knox16161
    @knox16161 10 месяцев назад +3

    I own a property in TN that has exactly this same setup only the pump is a MYERS. I live in CA so I haven’t had a chance to play with it yet. This is the first video I’ve been able to find that has shown how the system is put together. After some research the pump head can be adapted to a windmill powered mechanism as well.

  • @iansmartel5473
    @iansmartel5473 10 месяцев назад +10

    Using wind power before the word GREEN POWER was thought of.

  • @EdwinSemidey
    @EdwinSemidey 10 месяцев назад +24

    This thing is Amazing and still working 80 yrs later . I agree with you I would want to keep it as well.

  • @KevinKinder-ey9gv
    @KevinKinder-ey9gv 10 месяцев назад

    Put that pump in a museum

  • @danmerillat
    @danmerillat 9 месяцев назад +9

    Fixing the seal would have given them a system that'd work another 80 years. My "modern" pump had to be replaced 3 times in a decade.

    • @ian3580
      @ian3580 День назад

      There was more broken than the seal. The air piston was also broken

    • @danmerillat
      @danmerillat 10 часов назад

      @@ian3580 I'm sure they'll be saying "Sure glad we got rid of that piece of junk with one worn out part" as they replace their fifth starter cap.

    • @ian3580
      @ian3580 5 часов назад

      @@danmerillat What are you doing to well pumps that you're replacing starter caps that often? My neighbors and I are all on about 12 years without pumps without issues....

  • @joek511
    @joek511 2 месяца назад

    Yes had one behind our house for years. It worked for the 13 years we lived there. In short they function just like the old hand well pumps. The piece you cut off was the check valve, ya had to back up a bit. The water enters the bottom and pushes up on the valve. When the stoke is finished the spring under that large cap pushes down and closes the valve

  • @TheRossz
    @TheRossz 10 месяцев назад

    That's what I call the beauty of a profession. 🤗

  • @pubcollize
    @pubcollize 9 месяцев назад

    this was better than watching a thriller

  • @charlesloar3210
    @charlesloar3210 10 месяцев назад

    One of the best videos You have posted. Very interesting.

  • @johnbarilovits3721
    @johnbarilovits3721 9 месяцев назад +1

    When people got electricity, the motorized pump jack was installed to replace the windmill as a power source for pumping the piston pump in the well.

  • @zanelile8192
    @zanelile8192 9 месяцев назад +1

    clean area, apply heat, use 2 pipe wrenches. and hammer. Don't give up.

  • @austinsullivan2136
    @austinsullivan2136 9 месяцев назад

    They don't build anything to last anymore, lol! The fact that this thing exceeded 50 years is a testament to that!

  • @Petrochemtester
    @Petrochemtester 10 месяцев назад +2

    Still use them for cattle water - out in pasture where there is no electric and no windmill - fill with gas and runs until the fuel runs out

  • @shignig383
    @shignig383 10 месяцев назад +3

    It's a check valve it's basically set up with a traveling vavle just like an oil well

  • @danielson101
    @danielson101 2 месяца назад

    She is a Beauty!

  • @davidjohannson4364
    @davidjohannson4364 10 месяцев назад +1

    When the owner is done using it for shop art the Seneca Falls, NY Historical Museum might like to have it. Goulds Pumps was started there. I donated a pump to their collection some years ago. Great video!

  • @speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783
    @speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783 9 месяцев назад +8

    Why did I find it sad to see this old American built pump that still works have to be removed. 😢❤
    I also detest air bnb. 😂

  • @curtnicholson7771
    @curtnicholson7771 10 месяцев назад +2

    I can’t believe what you call the crane is actually pretty much a part of the well service trucks here in the Midwest but then most newer wells here are usually scheduled 80 PVC well pipe on pitiless adapters with older wells being still hung on galvanized because they haven’t been changed over yet. Years back our pump went bad and a new pump was added to three new 20’ lengths of PVC actually lowering our well by about 6’ as it was hung on 18’ sections of 1” galvanized pipe. I had never heard of that size but the well guys said it was available years ago. Till I saw your videos I had never seen a pump hanging on vinyl pipe. We just upgraded ours to an VFD drive. Expensive but I believe worth it in the long run. Trying to get everything right for the love of my life.

    • @michaelholland8969
      @michaelholland8969 10 месяцев назад

      Does VFD drive take the place of the control box? If so, wouldn't that be expensive compared to the regular control box when lightning strikes it? Please explain, Thanks!

  • @rocarroll1533
    @rocarroll1533 10 месяцев назад +15

    Serviced these deepwell pumps for 45 odd years,many different brands,Anderson, Mcewens,Davies etc,if you didnt have a wind mill you usually had a deep well plunger pump ,not much else before submersibles came into play bar ram style pumps

  • @Hermorningglow76
    @Hermorningglow76 Месяц назад

    Moving to bristol area and looking for land and o cant believe your near by. I’m a veteran and this will be my retirement property. Can’t wait to reach out ❤

  • @KenLee-e5y
    @KenLee-e5y 10 месяцев назад +2

    Can't tell you the last time I saw one of these. A reciprocating dingle arm actuating a canooter valve is how all wells used to work areound here. Now they have all been converted to electric submersable pumps and the old casings made of prefabulated aluminite have been replaced with PVC. They just dont make them like they used to.

  • @RonaldWood-ep7vg
    @RonaldWood-ep7vg 9 месяцев назад +1

    I would not want you working on my stuff . That system was a bit old but you should have known more . Best if you stick to the modern stuff . I give you a thumbs up because I liked seeing the old but simple pump .

  • @Yeakerr
    @Yeakerr Месяц назад

    Had pretty much the same system in my pump house in wisconsin

  • @juliemunoz2762
    @juliemunoz2762 10 месяцев назад +2

    So ya made a functional well defunct and now the homeowner has no water until a new well is drilled. You could have identified this outcome with a little diagnosis so they could have chose to leave it or have a new well dug ahead of time.

  • @nickearle3913
    @nickearle3913 9 месяцев назад

    I have a very similar system in my rural house up in Alberta, except my pump jack is made by Beatty.
    It was originally installed in the early 1960's, uses a metal sucker rod with leather seals, and the pump jack has a gear lube immersion bath for lubrication.
    The galvanized tank is a mixed air tank and will have an air purge as the sucker rod will pull air from downhole along with water.
    I still use the pump to this day, though i've plumbed the sucker rod pump through a bladder accumulator and into a 1000L cistern since the well has always been ~1.3 gallon per minute.

  • @normanmack2368
    @normanmack2368 Месяц назад

    Stroke pump. Has sweepers of leathers on the bottom.

  • @Wyrm1701
    @Wyrm1701 9 месяцев назад +7

    Well, if you want a tale of old water engineering, then when archaeologists first got into the volcanically buried bath house of Roman Herculaneum in Italy, they found a large square-topped valve on a big lead pipe. Cautiously turning this valve (who would be able to resist doing so?) it was found to still work and still be holding some water 1800 years after the eruption buried it in volcanic ash.

  • @timstriff9870
    @timstriff9870 9 месяцев назад

    I had one in my basement of my last home built on wooden stand had been disconnected . Must have been to heavy to take out LOl Very cool

  • @matthewmccormick2417
    @matthewmccormick2417 10 месяцев назад

    Yep they make some good pumps. The one on my Mom and Dad farm was 40 years old before i replaced it for him.

  • @MikeRichardson-b9o
    @MikeRichardson-b9o 2 месяца назад

    we used a pump like that for years.Made out of cast iron and pumped water 1000 feet from spring to house.

  • @mikeclarke3005
    @mikeclarke3005 9 месяцев назад

    I would love to have that old pump so many irrigation use on my farm, just need that top mechanism the pump part I can make for a creek pump

  • @layne3718
    @layne3718 10 месяцев назад +15

    We have this same setup at our farm in a 50 foot hand dug well. still works as a backup. Same style pump, mabye little older.

  • @georgeparrault9945
    @georgeparrault9945 6 месяцев назад

    7:05 Old Water tanks make good smokers, and / or grills.

  • @christophergould3673
    @christophergould3673 10 месяцев назад +1

    Old things go nearly forever

  • @centheiatrust9153
    @centheiatrust9153 4 месяца назад +1

    The Gould mechanism is called a "pump jack." The pump down in the well is called a cylinder pump. New ones are readily available in a variety of diameters and draw lengths. Draw length times diameter is the amount of water you get each time the rod is pulled up. I have seen people install brand new ones in a freshly drilled well, with an electric motor operating the pump jack, just for historical reasons.

  • @Thomas-oe7gx
    @Thomas-oe7gx 2 месяца назад +1

    had the same pump in my Basement from 1940 it took me all day to remove it I pulled out about 70 feet of pipe with a rod inside, it had some brass contraption at the end of it

  • @apollorobb
    @apollorobb 10 месяцев назад +12

    That piece you cut off was a Check Valve . My Great Grandmother had a converted windmill well hers was a gravity feed style not a pressure style it had an overhead water tank that fed the house . Hers had almost the same gear box it may have been a bit older .

  • @lbstilts
    @lbstilts 10 месяцев назад +8

    They used to call those "Sucker Rod" pumps in my area.

  • @mrhelms5394
    @mrhelms5394 2 месяца назад

    Just put a new stainless steel rod on it fish the old wood rod out and repair it will work for ever. Love you videos

  • @staceycarroll7973
    @staceycarroll7973 2 месяца назад

    I'm glad he described why it had to come out. it was working... more or less.... lol But that makes sense. You can't sell that water to anyone else.

  • @scottbenton1314
    @scottbenton1314 10 месяцев назад

    What a cool pump! Really enjoyed your video and enjoy watching how you approach problems and solve them!

  • @SkinnyBiker
    @SkinnyBiker 9 месяцев назад

    My great grandpa replaced the windmill with a motorized pump jack like that. Not pressurized. Gravity fed from the tank to the house from the pump shed.

  • @rocarroll1533
    @rocarroll1533 10 месяцев назад +6

    The main disadvantage with gearing deep well pumps was fairly heavy maintainance
    In New Zealand most had to be service 2 or 3 yearly.
    Pump cylinder at bottom of riser pipe was brass with leather pump cups ( seals) 2 at bottom in pump cylinder and 2 at top flange on stuffing box
    Most pump cylinders were either 2" or 2 and half inch with 8" stroke, 180 gallon an hour or 330 gallons at 47 strokes per minute
    Riser pipe usualy 1 and quarter or 1and half inch with 5 eigth lift rods joined at 21 foot sections
    Have lifted pumps from 2 or three hundred feet ,pump gearing need counter ballance forsmooth running,still plenty in New Zealand but not many old boys like me who know how to service them,bloody hard work but loved every minute of it ya teach yourself and learn from experience
    Only ever dropped 3 over 45 years, usually 1 lift per day in dairy farming areas

  • @suespony
    @suespony 9 месяцев назад

    So cool, I live very near Seneca falls, I knew a few people that worked for Gould pump back in the 80's

  • @davidillich7014
    @davidillich7014 10 месяцев назад

    Enjoyed watching from Novato Calif. north of San Francisco

  • @stevebauer6293
    @stevebauer6293 22 дня назад

    I’m only about 30 miles from Goulds pumps in Seneca falls.

  • @needsaride15126
    @needsaride15126 9 месяцев назад

    They were all over farms and home in Pennsylvania.

  • @hartsfire5706
    @hartsfire5706 10 месяцев назад +1

    OMG i never thought i would see this on here. there is one up above me that was used to water livestock but if it is still running it is wind yet.
    i helped to care for the place back in 1990 and i think it is still running. i know the wind mill is still running.
    now i need to walk up and see if the new owner will let me check and or get photos or video.

  • @mikeheff7544
    @mikeheff7544 10 месяцев назад +6

    The broken rod may have been a check valve. Up stroke water flow. Down stroke flow blocked.

    • @matthewmiller6068
      @matthewmiller6068 10 месяцев назад +1

      That's what I was wondering, kinda like a steam engine valve...

    • @throttlebottle5906
      @throttlebottle5906 10 месяцев назад +2

      it may have been an air injection pump. no bladders tanks back then and you'd have to add air to the pressure tank otherwise.
      there's been many designs to add air over the years. 🤔

  • @Liledgy100
    @Liledgy100 9 месяцев назад

    Sone homes by me pump out of the lake. U need a UV light to kill bacteria and the county requires you to be able to pull the check valve up out of the water if needed. A driller made some kind of rotating 90 degree bend at the end of pipe that check valve connected to so u could access the check valve if needed

  • @oldcarnocar
    @oldcarnocar 10 месяцев назад

    sweet pump

  • @KC2ATE
    @KC2ATE 9 месяцев назад +9

    I worked at Goulds in Seneca Falls for about 20 years. Neat to see old equipment still in use.

  • @wdmm94
    @wdmm94 9 месяцев назад

    Two inch casing was pretty common before approximately 1980. My dad had a new deep jet put down in the 60's that is a 2 inch. To make an old rod and leather pump put water into a pressure tank there must be a seal on top of the casing that made the rod push water ìnto the tank on the up stroke. An old hand pump (or windmills, or pump jack on a hand pump etc.) just dumped water after bringing it up, that is no pressure. Those old tanks didn't have bladders so they needed an air charger of some sort also. I would also suggest that before one takes on an antique system to maybe do a little research on how they work and are put together so one knows what they are dealing with.

  • @badmofo
    @badmofo 27 дней назад

    The part you were asking what it was appears to be a check valve preventing the water from backflowing.

  • @wyrdlg
    @wyrdlg 10 месяцев назад

    It's not American made holds so long. Things produced in former times generally were made to last everywhere. Nice to see that it's still doing its duty there.

  • @George-xm6di
    @George-xm6di 29 дней назад

    At the bottom of the 1” pipe is a 1 7/8” windmill pump. It could be refurbished IF you could pull the 1” pipe. The trouble is the 1” and 2” pipes are fused together. Years of dirt & rust have fallen down between them and rusted solidly together, trapping the pump.

  • @watershedwonders1744
    @watershedwonders1744 9 месяцев назад

    Looked like a check valve to me. It was to keep the pumped water from running back into the well

  • @tacoma50
    @tacoma50 9 месяцев назад +57

    Worked for 80 years….. until you put your hands on it!

    • @williamallen7836
      @williamallen7836 6 месяцев назад +10

      Except you can't sanitize that old setup. Which negates being able to rent the property out as an AirB&B as the property owner plans on doing. Plus if you rewatch the beginning when the pump kicks in and some of the water leaks to the top, you will see the unmistakable sheen of oil in the water. This is caused because the side of the pump housing is open, and some oil gets splashed out. If the water leaks out at the top, then the oil will leak down into the well when the pump stops. I don't know about you, but I don't like the idea of drinking oil contaminated water or even bathing in it. Just because old setups may last longer does not mean thar it's the best method. It may be robust if maintained, but it allows the well to be contaminated with each use of the pump.

    • @lawrencewillard6370
      @lawrencewillard6370 2 месяца назад +4

      He was paid to do it. The owner made the choice.

    • @nickjudd5188
      @nickjudd5188 2 месяца назад +2

      I agree. Educate yourself, research the system and service it properly. Replacing it with modern gear is inefficient use of resources. As for the sanitation requirement, all they needed to do was install a filtration system between the pump and house.

    • @ian3580
      @ian3580 День назад

      Actually it wasn't working. The air piston was broken anyway.

  • @markkowaleski3515
    @markkowaleski3515 10 месяцев назад +8

    The pump was made about 35 miles from where I live, Seneca Falls, NY. They're still I business, I used to deliver steel to the factory in the 70's....1970s!

  • @patzke
    @patzke 10 месяцев назад +2

    Maybe that part was a one way check valve?

  • @whatyoumakeofit6635
    @whatyoumakeofit6635 9 месяцев назад +4

    I cant believe this well was ripped out. At the least it could ha e been left alone and used as a secondary emergency or auxiliary well. Or put new seals and refurbish the mechanism and keep using for another 80 years.