Lockhart Basin on Large Bikes - Utah BDR pt. 2
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- Опубликовано: 19 янв 2023
- Ed, Pete and I on Lockhart Basin. We are all on KTM 790 / 890 advs. This section was very fun... a couple parts are not easy. Brent met us at the end and we continued to Moab.
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Now that's how you do a video of Lockhart! No music, no VO...Just raw video. Perfect!! Way to just rip through there!!!
I was wondering why I was enjoying it so much. No music, no VO.
Ian is a *fantastic* video editor. He combined footage from 3 different GoPros to create a video that tells the story in a way that makes you feel like you were there.
I mean, i was there - I'm the dude in the dorky turquoise and orange Klim suit. But I'm so glad he did them, and glad y'all are enjoying them.
Great video! We started in Monticello did Lockhart, crossed over the valley and did the Utah BDR expert section back south to Monticello. Great loop!
Great job guys my hats off to ya. They didn't make it look easy, they make it look realistic, I'm frustrated, exhausted, and sick of being on the trail and I'm not really even there. Picking up 400lb bike 20 times a day sucks. Notice how more and more stuff was broken as the video progresses, broken mirror etc. That's no kidding adventure. Glad no one got hurt or stranded.
I watch a lot of BDR channels, and you guys look like you’re having the most fun! I felt like I was on the bike and riding along.
Having a ktm 1090 watching this was exciting and anxiety provoking. Wish I had lighter bike for rides like this
Seeing the rider(s) in front & your POV gives a much better sense of the terrain.
You guys are riding way above my paygrade. Good job!
So fun to revisit. I'm not one to re-watch movies I've seen ....but these still take me right back there and put a smile on my face. I can still feel some of those impacts.
Awesome!!! Drinking and driving don't mix 🙂
That was impressive. And thank you for not putting music to it. The sound of the bikes is music to the ears. Well done.
I wish I could give more than one thumbs up! Great vid, no music - perfect! Thank you!
This looks amazing 😍 watching from Europe it is like a complete different planet. Thank you for the ride :)
I'm an old motorcyclist who discovered Moab and southern Utah back in the 70s, I never did Lockhart Basin although I traced it out on Google Earth about 10 years ago. This was a real treat to see it from a well ridden motorcycle, thank you for your effort and for posting.
wow, amazing. you guys are nuts but my respect for sure. many thanx for sharing.
Awesome! With no bullshit stupid music. Raw. Real. Like I was right there with you guys. Never tire of the sound of a growling engine. 👍👍👍
Great video, you guys made it look easy on the big bikes
Awesome job. Awesome environment. Keep it up.
Awesome ride and video!👍
Love you skills. Great riding. I would not take more than my dirt bike there… well done
I love it! Using these bikes the way they were meant to be used. The terrain looked fun until around 11:00, then it looked taxing. Then around 16:00 it looks no fun at all, the kind of thing you do because you have absolutely no choice. I need a couple more years of riding before I try stuff like that.
It was definitely challenging. We went into it with big egos and came out of it a little humbled but very happy.
Nice work guys! Thats a tough trail for sure
Very nice ride and video!
great riding, great video, WOW!!!!!!!
“KTM for sale- never down!” Jk. You guys are nuts. Very impressive riding. That 16:00 mark is crazy well done
Looks like you had a good time on this trail. I need to go back and run that section.
Pete!!, great vid guys, I was at the shop for like 8 hours getting both my forks seals replaced the same day as Pete, we had both blown them on Lockhart. We where on the KTM 500’s.
I remember you guys! We didn't get a chance to chat but your adventure sounded impressive!
Gary! Yeah, it was a long day at the shop ...but how lucky were we that they had seals in stocks and made the time to get us back on the trail?!
That looks incredible. I'm a new adv rider but don't think I have the confidence to do something that challenging.
Great video!
great job riding and filming
The shot that starts at 19:29 is beautiful. Good eye!
This is inspiring...I find myself being too careful when fully packed with camping gear.
There’s nothing inspiring about people carelessly beating the ever living shit out of 20K worth of gear.
@@Captndarty Its theirs to do what they want to do to it. You didn't pay for thieir bikes.
@@Captndarty it's funny. If we have nice gear and bikes and never stray from the pavement, people shit on you. If you take nice bikes and gear and use it the way it was intended to be used, people shit on you.
Ride your own ride, brother. We will ride ours.
Rode this the other direction way back in 1990 on an XL 650. I'm a bit older now but I have an 890. Would like to do it again but it looks pretty rough!
I gotta say, we went into this all cocky and the trail definitely humbled us at times. I don't think we could have done it the other way, some of those waterfall sections were just too gnar.
Went through here last week with my truck, would love to go back through on my ADV!
That is to enjoy a adventure bike 👏👏👏 grettings from chile 🇨🇱🇨🇱🇨🇱 south america
brilliant place, wow
nice adventure!
Two true horror's. In one lovely package. Loose rock and sand.
Totally worth the sweat on bruises 😂
Man I'll never own an "adventure" bike. I get it, but so slow and lumbering... Loved the video...but stressful to watch. Looks like a great trail!
You gotta go an adventure ride to understand the adventure bike. This was 1000 miles and I would have rather been on a dirt bike for about 15 of them
@@edenstrang It's amazing really. Did a bit of research. By the way, seriously, fantastic video. They're just so big. When I take my beloved KLX 250s out for a spin, it feels huge and heavy compared to my Husky 300TE. 219lbs vs 280lbs! LOL. Keep up the good work. Inspired me.
@@therw6876they are huge! But it's kind of a weird thing the way you get used to it, and with the suspension these KTMs have and the absurd amount of power (for dirt) on a multi day trip, it ends up being so much fun. We all ride dirt bikes too and love them but it's a different experience.
I race on the weekends but when I'm on my dual sport or adventure bike it's time to relax and enjoy the sights ,just my two cents. Also I don't want to get hurt a long ways from a hospital and ruin our trip.
True even really good riders can make mistakes. When Shit happens and you are a helicopter ride away from help you might want to rethink the pace.
Everyone on the trip loses. Also when riding by Vehicles best to chop the throttle not to roost them with rocks. We all need to be respectful of others on the trail or we all lose.
Wow... trying to decide what bike to get. Once on the dirt the 690 is looking better and better! :)
try and ride them both to see for yourself. I thought the 690 would be the obvious best adv since we like the dirt, but just wasn't the case, for me.
I had a 790, then switched to a 701, then back to an 890. The 701 was better in two scenarios: Solo adventuring where it's much easier to pick up by yourself, and deep sand. In every other circumstance the 890 is more fun and just as capable/maybe more capable.
Impressive boys
Great job guys, thx for the video. How much water did you have doing the Lockhart basin? Thx
I just had a 2 liter camelbak... it was a nice cool day though
Amazing ride and amazing bikers! Cheers!
Interesting, It seems you need to Bunny Hop those big bikes more than dirt bikes because of the weight. Loading the suspension and then getting it light over an obstacle is important.
That was a hard ride on those big bikes, well done.
Most of the bunny hops were just for fun haha, and it was SO MUCH FUN!
Wow.. Hats off to you. We did the trail from the caynon land to chicken corner to Maob in a tundra. IT IS NOT EASY...This trail or lack there of will beat you down. The couple of NOT easy parts are well fuckiital.. Because you have no choise of going back..
Please let us know where you trade in your bikes.
I’m not sure who was who but one of y’all seemed consistently hitting the hardest line! Y’all really put those bikes through there paces!
Probably Ian. He's the one that edited the video. He's in the all-gray suit, and his POV is the chin mount. I'm the guy in the black & turquoise suit, and my POV is the one with the helmet visor at the bottom of the shot. Pete is the tall guy with the gopro mounted to the right of his windscreen on the bike.
Awesome video, and awesome skills 👍
What a ride! Great video/editing. Looks like a strong group on well set up KTM’s.
Couple questions;
1. How many miles/hours was the ‘tough section’ of Lockhart?
2. Was it ‘worth it’ using big bike vs say a dual sport?
3. Any other tips/thoughts/words of advise?
Thank you.
Lockhart took about half a day, the tough sections are sprinkled throughout. For us the big bikes were perfect as this was a short part of a 1600 mile ride, mostly fire road. My advice is to be realistic about what you're comfortable doing on the bike you choose, and if you can do it over and over all day safely. By default I'd advise anyone to use a dual sport instead!
You guys are mad men. Well done.
Did you guys do the whole BDR in one shot or have to break it up? I hear the heat in the south and snow in the north make it almost impossible to do the entire stretch at once. Great job getting thru Lockhart!!
we ran out of time to do the last bit to Idaho, but it would have been clear. This was in early October, weather was great and the fall colors on the aspen were incredible
That's some serious bike abuse, but looks like an engaging route
15.50 is where I high centered the Tacoma on our family trip. We moved a lot slower than you knuckleheads🤣
Now you get why it's called hurrah pass.
The number of times I would have simply died while doing this... A Trail 250 would probably get me through, though.
17:09 Glad I'm not the only who sings to myself while riding.
🤣 that was me. I was having fun alright! Had to get back in a good mood after shouting "FUCK" at full volume
Great video! Most of your problems were from simply following too close...
Was thinking the same thing but would also add that I'm saying this from the comfort of my couch and am simply envious of these guys out there doing it.
@@mac65utube still impressive riding in some narly chunk!
Most of the problems were due to them having 20k worth of bike and gear with little talent. Point and shoot is their method.
@@Captndarty I'm not sure how we pissed you off so bad. Get off the keyboard and go ride. 🏍️
Is this the main trail, or an alternate advanced route? I am on the BDR website but the map is not showing any advanced sections. If it is the main this is like 200% harder than the WABDR
This is an optional expert route on the Utah BDR, and it's the hardest BDR section of all I think
And did you have traction control off or were you in rally mode 1. Thx
I'm mostly around rally mode 5. TC off would be better for going up the ledges, but I don't like fiddling with it. Dumping the clutch usually picks the wheel up ok
@@edenstrang thank you
What's your intention here???
Having a great time. Mission accomplished!
So what’s with the flame-outs? My 790 never does that. You make any changes to mapping? Exhaust?
dunno it almost never happens, but started getting us all around the same time. Maybe heat plus worn out riders
They do it if you catch the engine on a bump at just the wrong RPM/point in the engine's rotation. My 790 did it, and my 890 did it here plenty (i was the one that shouted fuck really loud while dragging my bike off the rock).
Slipping the clutch more would reduce flame outs.
@@therealturbofanisme WAIT!!!!! My 790 did that once on a very steep and steppy climb. But I knew what it was and I fixed it. The sidestand tends to move when the bike experiences extreme g-forces, like when you’re hitting a big rock or dropping into a ditch etc. If that sidestand moves - swings just a little bit - the engine gets shut off because it thinks the stand is down.
The solution was to buy a sidestand switch eliminator dongle (gets installed at a connectors under the tank) and the issue was solved for good.
Is it possible you were experiencing the same problem?
@@Colorado-Tinkering i don't think so, none of these bumps were hard enough. Much bigger drops, dips, jumps and no flame out, can't imagine these low speed bumps could move the kickstand enough. Every bike I've owned flames out - my 701, my 450, etc. I hate abusing the clutch so when you run the revs that low it just happens sometimes.
@@therealturbofanisme well, it was a guess. 😏. Thanks for considering it.
Can’t wait for warmer weather to get back out there since I just live right over the border in Colorado.
are you guys riding south to north?
yeah
And you called that a trail??? unbelievable!!!
You see why I have a KTM 690 Enduro R now? I rode big BMW GS bikes for decades. No thank you.
What did the guy say to you at 11:50?
ha one of the guys said "well get after it then," and it wasn't clear if they were enthusiastic or annoyed
Bought a new KLR thinking I would do a lot of back country riding. As an old desert racer, I thought it woulden't be any problem. Boy was I wrong! Theres a big difference in riding a 220 pound dirt bike and a 500 pound fat pig.
This old desert racer knows that my 1983 Yamaha IT490K ring ding (290lbs wet) would have made easy work of this terrain.
Trying to ride these boat anchor 4-stroke "Adventure" bikes in this terrain - soon turns them into "Nightmare" bikes! As shown here.
They are just too heavy and ungainly. 500 pound fat pigs is right Glade. LOL
And they lack the old 2-strokes instant powerful throttle response.
And on your IT you would be waiting hours for these poor worn-out guys to catch up with you. Been there -Done that!
If Yamaha released the IT series of 2-strokes Enduros again today - dealers could not sell them fast enough!
And to think they sold for US$2,249. Every winter - $200 for an engine overhaul!
@@DennisMerwood-xk8wp you're stuck in the past, brother. With or without luggage these bikes perform far and away better than those old IT's. They were good for their time, no doubt. But the suspension would not handle carrying luggage at anywhere near this speed. And if we weren't carrying luggage, we would have been on modern dual sport bikes instead!
Glad you enjoyed your old bikes but you're looking at them through rose colored glasses. We are also desert racers - the capability of these new KTM 790/890 ADV bikes is astonishing.
@@therealturbofanisme If you are carrying "luggage" you are not on a dirt bike!
BTW, A KTM 890 is twice the engine capacity of the old IT. And twice as heavy.
Can you desert race an KTM 890?
As a long time mechanic at a KTM dealership, I've ridden all these modern Adventure bikes my man. Without luggage, I'd race any of these modern fat elephants on my old IT490!
Take care
@@DennisMerwood-xk8wp you're right! We are not riding dirt bikes, We were on a multi-day adventure trip with food and water and camping gear. Not sure what you're on about - so i should have left all the gear at home and be riding a 40 year old bike, THEN you'd be impressed? Sure let me just talk my buddies into going hungry and camping without any gear. The literal point of this is to explore difficult terrain on multi-day trips. Your old IT literally won't do that. This is progress.
Yes, you can desert race an 890. There's a whole class for adventure bikes at most big desert races.
You've "ridden" these bikes yet have no idea what they're capable of, despite video proof. Your points don't make any sense, man.
is this north to south? or south to north?
Northbound. Heading south would have at least one *significantly* challenging climb for an adv bike.
@@edenstrang great job...my buddy and I are tackling this in august...im on a F800GS. Have done allthe expert sections on AZBDR and NMBDR as welll as Wyoming and colorado...thinking ill be ok. on my big...fully loaded bike LOL
Awesome thats amazing the abuse the big bikes took.
Just watching and some of those spots I just found NOT pick the best line
We definitely got to the point where we would deliberately choose a more interesting line. Where's the fun in always taking the smoothest path? 😁
Slow down guys enjoy the views cause crashing sucks i would ride that on my 650 not my GS im 70 ride alot of bdrs
This is haeard offroad.
Cool video! I think the National Park Service should call in The Army Corps of Engineers to smooth that road out.
This was like watching the 3 stooges ride over-priced bikes wearing 600-dollar helmets. How many times did I see that $15,000 FUEL INJECTED bike flame out in this short segment.... maybe 6???........my DR650 NEVER flames out. LMAO.
Congratulations! I'm happy for you 🥰 you're so much better than us, hope to meet you on the trail someday so you can show us how it's really done! 👌
Now I know why you only have 333 subs....lmao.....Snowflake. @@therealturbofanisme
Utah bdr does not look enjoyable
Man it was so much fun. Would love to do it again.
Great fun was had by all; said no one. 😅
😂😂 nah man we all had a blast!!