DO NOT USE These Spark Plugs In Your Audi Or VW!
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- Опубликовано: 13 авг 2022
- DO NOT USE These Spark Plugs In Your Audi Or VW! The RS7 1 step colder plugs have been causing many different issues including engine failures. The ground straps have been breaking off blowing engines. If you do use the RS7 plugs make sure to install and gap properly. Recommend The Denso's! Also you can use the brisk plugs linked below which work great as well!
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remembered this vid from a year ago to come back to now that I have to change my plugs. You're a lifesaver, brotha
Love how you spend the majority of the video saying don’t buy or install the RS7 plugs…and then you put a link to purchase the RS7 plugs in the video description.
Good job man 😅😂
Went with brisk racing silver on my mk8. Been happy so far! Added the 034 ignition coils in red as well.
Nice man! Great to hear
Great video. Absolutely with all the issues these have caused just stay away. Many other options to go with that haven’t had any problems
Exactly I personally didn’t have issues with the rs7 plugs but this was more peace of mind
as you changed your spark plugs, how about the ignition coils, was that ever replaced when tuning the car ?
Unitronic suggests stock plugs with a stage 1, 1+. Maybe a stage 2 with bigger turbo would be better for a colder plug. But APR suggest 1 step colder plugs for their stage 1. 😬
Thank you soo much for this info 👍😎 Good Video 👍
Appreciate it!
Thank you for this video.
I would've never knew. 👍
Hey master diego, my go to guy when it comes to s3, been reading some of your replies that these plugs are having issues now? Which one would you recommend now?
I've been running RS7 plugs I order through the Audi dealer I work at for 2 years. I really think people underestimate PROPER gapping lol I tend to stress myself out after seeing so many posts in the groups though. Just cant justify paying the crazy prices for the other kind of plugs, especially when I try to change them roughly every 10k miles. Good video bro.
Thanks bro! You’re 100% right. I do feel partially it does have to do with people gapping them wrong and ruined the ground strap which causes it to snap. That’s the issue too though so many other plugs are double the price so it’s tough. For me I never had issues it’s more of a peace of mind thing
what gap should I do on OEM spark plugs on stock power going o stage 2 in around 6 months
Why would you be changing spark plugs so often?? 🤷♂️
@@milli_on4451 My car is Stage 2 on E30, when running E30 tunes it’s recommended every 10k miles. At least that’s what my tuning company suggests.
@@milli_on4451 I’d like to also add I no longer have RS7 plugs on my car
Hi. How to know if I am using RS7 spark plugs? Are RS7 plugs also NGK brand?
Bruh, biggest flex “ I can’t do a swap, well I could but I don’t t want to” 🤑
Good video as always.
😂😂😂 I didn’t mean it THAT way lol just not in the mood to spend that kind of money god forbid something happened haha. Thanks man!
Hi, what do you recommend for Audi Rs6 C7 2016? NGK Racing spark plugs is it a good alternative? I would appreciate if you could answer quickly.
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How long did you have the NGK spark plugs inside the engine ?
Just put these in my mk7, I’m quite confident the gap is proper. But I got two misfires after installing.
Densos across the board have been great for most. Also the brisk are a good alternative and they are cheap but they start to misfire after a few thousand miles
I like the different design and so far no issues with them to my knowledge
I just added Brisk Racing ER12S plugs. I have a stage 1 APR tune and I swear after I installed the new plugs, the engine hesitates more and is not as responsive. I believe these are colder plugs but can anyone confirm if this is why? Maybe I should only use these if I am on a stage 2?
Switched to denzos today, car is runnning much better, the old one were worn out for sure haha
Good man! I’ve been running the densos from is38 all the way to my hybrid setup rn with no issues at all
Crazy enough I have my B8.5 Audi A4 2.0T which was on stage 1 on E85 and I did use it before many times and I had no problems, I had this spark plugs for a while in my car, then I decided to try E30 and I gapped them to 0.26, and the car blew up the same night pretty much, not sure exactly what happened, if it was the ethanol or the spark plug itself, the tip of cyl 1 broke and the car now knocks pass 3k rpms
Yeah this happened to me, the tips broke off….noticed when the reservoir cracked and overheated…the car went into safe mode because of misfires. I took the plugs out and noticed the tips gone in two of the plugs plus coolant in the combustion chamber which Ig is from the head gasket failing. I’m covered under the Pzev warranty but I have to wait and see what the dealer will say this coming monday
So sorry to hear that… it sucks how more common this is becoming especially since for a long time these were the recommended plug for most tuners. I’m hoping you’re covered
Did this throw a flashing check engine light?
I picked up a 2017 Audi S3 and the OEM NGK plugs were loose. One spark plug lost its ground electrode. Everything else seemed good. Entire service history was with the dealer and the plugs have about 15k in them. I have a JB1 hooked, other than that, my car is stock.
I would recommend people check their plugs after every other oil change no matter what set up you have. I’m just going to avoid NGK plugs for now and swap them for OEM Bosch plugs.
You’re absolutely correct on everything! That’s a practice I do myself every oil change and I change plugs every other change. But I always put a socket and try to snug them just in case
had the same with oem vw plugs, but my hpfp did go out so i dont know if that directly caused that to break
Just because a vehicle's service history is available, doesn't mean that the previous owner didn't change out other items on their own.
Do you recommend the Red Top OE 8V RS3 / B9 S4 Ignition Coil Packs? Also, regarding the gapping on the Densos, so they don't need any gapping even though they come 0.028 out of the box?
Stock Coilpacks are up for any task you can throw at them.
Could be an issue of improperly gapping. So many people tap the straps on the ground or a wall to close it and end up slightly ruining them. With the strain of tuning and driving hard they break
This is so true. Another reason things could happen. Like I mentioned in the video too this is the most commonly used plug so more chances for things to go wrong and pop up
@@DArias Hey are those Denso the IKH24 model? It says racing plugs on your box, so im unsure if the IKH24 iwas lookin at is the same as yours? Also if you daily the car more than race it, would you recomend the IKH22 instead, or is IKH24 running smooth on idle as well? My car is Stage 1 GTI Clubsport 380 hp/470 torque.
What kind of coil packs do you recommend? Currently using apr packs.
Most tuners recommend using oem coil packs. The Apr ones are known to sometimes have issues like slight misfires at wot or even at idle
Diego Thanks for the video.
Did you gap yourself the Denso Plugs? I see they come as 0.028mm.
Or installed them as bought.
Since the ground strap has the slant style there is no need for gapping. The way the plug is set up it’s good to go out of the box! So the .028 gap is essentially equivalent to the .024 gap on a standard plug
hey Diego, what torque did you put on yours? gonna grab a set of these and install myself
I believe its 22ft lbs but getting them nice and snug by hand is more than good enough
Gap with feeler gauges not with the kep chain ring
what about on NGK PLFER7A8EG ?? should i gap it ( pre-gap size 0.032) or install without anything.. shoud go only stage 1
Depending on your tuner they will let you know the best gap. Most tuners to my knowledge recommend around a .024 gap
I recently bought NGK sparks for my VW R32 MKV
hopefully no problems if I gap em properly, right?
Different plugs engine and platform so I’m not familiar with any issues tbh
A lot of people run stock plugs too re gapped down and they work. Always tell people to regal their stock plugs and see if not then go 1 step colder
Some people do just run stock and sometimes it works for others it causes some knock. I tried the stock plugs first and regapped but kept getting some knock at wot once I swapped plugs it went away
I got one last set i already bought so i'm prob running them and then swapping wish me luck lol
Just make sure you gap them correctly and torque them correctly and I’m sure you’ll be ok!
They’ve been failing all over the pages recently. Could be user error like you mention or just a huge batch of defective plugs
Could be a combination of both possibly. I had no issues with the plugs personally but I don’t want to risk it
How often would you change these out if tuned?
every 10k to 15k miles
GREAT I’m worried now. I have 5k miles right now on mine should I swap?
No need to freak out for it as long as you know you installed them and gapped them properly it should be fine. However I do suggest your next plug change to use the densos. Or if you have the extra cash to dish out go ahead and purchase! The brisk plugs work well too which are also linked below in the description
I called my mommy, and she said not to worry. She gave me ice cream, and I'm not afraid anymore. Then I watch lord, Fauci. He told me to place a mask over the coil pack for better protection. All and all good video. I sleep better at night.
" i dont mean to scare anyone " im scared bro haha but thanks for the heads up! ill switch them out at the 40k mile interval. quick question have you ever experienced rough gear shifts? car jerks harsh from 2-3 and sometimes 1-2 not in manual, really sucks i looked into it and found that resetting transmission would help but it didint. do you have an idea of what could be going on? or what are some of your go to forums?
Have you done any dsg service for your car? It may be over due if you drive your car hard it’s possible you may just need a service for jt to be good again. Granted dsg trans is pretty clunky sometimes especially at lower speeds
Has this problem with unitronic tune on my car
@@DAriaswhat’s your opinion on the transmission brace that gets rid of the slop?
So you don’t need to gap the Denso spark plugs? I just got mine and I’ve never changed spark plugs or even worked on my own car
It’s a safe bet to check gap in case it’s extremely open but most times it’s unnecessary. I’ve had 3 sets already none had to be gapped and 0 misfires or knock
I bought rs7 spark plugs from my local Audi dealer for my eqt stage 2 gti a year ago should I be worried??
I wouldn’t freak. I had 0 issues with mine. As long as they were installed and tightened properly and gapped correctly using a proper method you should be ok. I only switched for peace of mind as most tuners aren’t recommending them anymore due to the uptick in failures
When will it be available for sale? The link says it is not available
It is failure so banned.
Bought some NGK 4905 R7438-8 Racing 1 step colder plugs recommended by eqt only lasted me 5k miles on eqt stage 2 mk7 golf R. Car began misfiring. So I went to stock plugs no more misfires I don’t track my car or do a lot of pulls think I’ll be fine?
To be honest mate I think you'll be fine. My RS6 C7.5 came with a stage 2 QST tuning package which is "meant to" have NGK R7438-9 plugs in them and swapped out every 10k miles. I'm pretty dubious about this as like yourself I don't do track or long pulls. At over 300 quid a set I'm wondering if a decent alternative will do. I occasionally get the odd hiccup/hesitation under minimal loads but have been assured that this is "normal". Again, not sure if I buy that or not but given that the car doesn't throw an EML or store any codes it could be true. I think tuners like to cover themselves by always insisting on parts that may be considered overkill, but also makes sense as they could have lawsuits against them if they recommended anything less and someone blows their engine. Don't get me wrong, if I ever find that I definitely do need the NGK-R's I have no probs forking out the money for them as it's much cheaper than any remedial engine work that could come out on the back of it. The NGK-R's have that angled ground strap type that is recommended by NGK for turbo cars with +50% power increase so no doubt they do the job well.
Gona change to Denso plugs too, got misfire codes..
I love the densos!
What's the proper gap for stock A8L D4 ? I installed the NGK IR literally 3 days ago now I came across your video 🤦🏾♂️
It depends on your tuner, most will say .024 is the correct gap. Rs7 plugs recently have been known to break BUT if you installed them correctly and gapped them the proper way you should be ok
Hey man I have a 2017 Audi s3 with 55k miles, while I was accelerating a bit hard a “system malfunction please contact service” came up. I turned off the car and ran my OBDELEVEN and my codes were “ cylinder 1 misfire” “hide cylinder”. I turned the car back on but it ran perfectly. No check engine light I’m hoping it’s just the spark plugs . Any thoughts?
It could absolutely be a plug but could also be a coil or bad ground possibly bad injector. My suggestion is if it comes back swap the plug from cylinder 1 to another and go out for a drive and if the misfire moves to that cylinder than it’s the plug. If that doesn’t work then try the coil and same thing. If that doesn’t work then check your ground wire on the coil to make sure it’s good and if those dont fix it then it’s possible you may have a bad DI injector
@@DArias just replaced the coils and plugs today same plugs you used in the video and they are running fantastic. Turned out it was a cracked spark plug lol
I just removed mine and the metal clips on the bottom fell off of Cyl. 3 & 4.... sad
Did your motor need rebuilding?
Use OEM or NGK brand which will have a serial number...Do not use cheap in Audi nor run anything that will fail to fault your engine..Do not not R7 .Run R8 if you are boosted with a Stage 1 two or 3 .Coils APR ..Also go with their tune because there is better response time with stage 1 .Let's say you tune to stage 1 make sure there are things such as the coils and sparks done and Any belts it needs. IF you can buy the bigger pully from IE then get the IE intake system..If you can get a better intercooler for the audi or Ac compressor do it ..Only get good 93 octane through shell with the V-power or additive that they have already in there gas ..Also if you burn oil in your audi like after oil changes and your like yo why is my oil going down when I just die an oil change ? Get the liquid Molly for the gas tank after you top off the liquid molly oil in your engine.It helped me keep my oil range steady. Tectron you deff want on hand post oil change ..Gas out the car to get any sediment out the fuel then fill up with the techtron
Also only use what is recommended for your Audi..Do not use nothing that will kill the car .These cars are Bullet proof but can have major issues ..Also you need coils at 127 0r 128 thousand miles ..
Did you lay the plugs out left to right cyl1-4? Plug 1 has a nice corona on it. Something you might want to keep an eye on. Perhaps this becomes a non-issue on the Densos.
So they’re laid out 4-1-2-3.. did notice that but also sometimes the sealant they use to mate the cam cover to the head will seep in a bit. Everything else was dry and good to go. I’m gonna be pulling the densos in about 2-3k miles just as a reference for how they look
@@DArias Unless you cleaned them I don't see any sealant. Yes, give them a check in a few k.
90% of tips breaking is from gapping, leave the damn tip alone
Other factors, shipment mishandled got impacted or plugs too hot
I have a 2009 s5 4.2 which should I run
PLEASE DON'T USE THE RS7 PLUGS!!!
I ran the NGK for a long time, but when they went, it damn near took my car with them. I had to rebuild my engine. Thankfully, I had an extended warranty, but I still went through an absolute nightmare with the Audi dealership. My car sat for nearly 8 months do to negligence. THEN they tried to fabricate emails and say that it was my fault that it took so long. THEN tried to charge me thousands more than what was already approved. They ended up waiving everything when I brought in the District Manager and threatened to bring in lawyers. Lesson here is NEVER go to the dealership. I ended up finding a family owned European mechanic shop, and they basically restored my faith in mechanics lol. Unless you are tuned and pushing more power just stay OEM until you get there.
That was bottled up inside me now wasn't it lol.
Just bought an MK7.5 and it dies on me while driving it Send it back to dealership and they discovered one of the spark plugs tip just disappeared and the other 3 have some carbon on them. They want 600$ for that🤷🏽♂️ Any recommendation on any long lasting coils and plugs so I don’t have to deal any more with this issue?
That’s unfortunate to hear. So best coils you can run are stock. People on hybrid and even full frame setups at 500-600hp use stock coils. The Apr ones are trash. For plugs if you’re tuned nothing with last a while. These cars while tuned require plug changes every 10k-15k miles. The rs7 plugs have been known to break easily which is why everyone is switching. I’m currently running Denso 5750 plugs and they’re great but I’m on a hybrid setup. For you I would go Denso 5749. Not too pricey and they’re really good and reliable according to many tuners so far
Must be a M/T and you best check the crank for a bent tooth.
@@MegaHollywood1971 Yes sir MT, already working on getting her ready for this summer, a few valves were bent but no mayor damage, it was the timing chain. Got my head and block done, but the winter stops everything here at north east.
Mine is completely stock I might have to switch now …
If you’re stock with stock plugs you should be ok. Now you shouldn’t be stock with 1 step colder plugs and if you do have the rs7 plugs I suggest at least throwing in some oem stock plugs
Crappy Ngk, Thats why Bmw and Suziki switched to Champion plugs.
Engine runs a lot lot better with the Champions.
Yes this plug has been having many issues. Can’t lie I’ve had great luck running the densos. Absolutely no misfires or knock
no doubt denso is quality brand and still made in japan. But ngk is not what it used to be. I had bought a ngk coil, you could wipe the ngk brand with your fingers off ! And im sure it whas a 100% genuine part.
the coil lasted only 3 months.
So many horror stories going around of these plugs snapping. Do not run these plugs anymore or new block time
Yes a lot of people experiencing failures recently
im using denso
They’ve been great so far! No issues
Diago. U been using apr coil pack and rs7 plug on my 2017audis3 for almost little 2 years and it fine .qhy you trying to scare tactics
Not trying to use scare tactics. It’s a universal thing known among every tuner in the community that the rs7 have a much higher failure rate than any other plug which is why they stopped recommending them. I used to use RS7 plugs too and to be safe switched over to the densos
@@DArias so how long have you had the denzo plugs and how dose it performed
@@dontsugarcoat2729 no response makes me wonder. I've been using rs7 plugs since 2015 and gapped them myself even if gapped correctly and have never had any issues. Makes me question this dudes experience as well as where in the community he's getting his info from.
@@PowerL1N3 I to been using rs7 plugs on my 2017audis3 and have them put on by a professional tuner and my car starts and runs fine qith stage 2 IE tune.
@@PowerL1N3 OP is 100% correct. Dave at EQT states in his FAQ to only run non projected plugs that are in this video.
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Your video title is NOT congruent with your assessment. You are sitting on both sides. Nothing wrong with the RS7 plugs, just as there isn't anything wrong with the stock plugs. I will go out on the limb for you and absolutely say that those that "supposedly" had the RS7 fail - damaged them by improperly gapping / with however they did them AND/OR left them in for so long. They could have even purchased them not knowing they were knock-offs from wherever it was they bought them.
BTW - the tuners etc., that do not push the RS7s do so for the simple fact they don't want some idiot blaming them for the plugs just because they improperly gap them.
They do that because their fake spark plugs
This has got to be the ugliest engine ever made.
What is the RS7 spark plug what’s the company?
lol denso is the shitties plug available, nkg rs7 the best, or brisk er12s
Rs7s are known to break. There’s countless amounts of example of the ground strap breaking off the spark plugs. Yes brisk is another option but they don’t last as long usually. I’ve had no issues with the densos even on my hybrid setup
@@DArias yeah only in the states, so probably some poeple gap em by hitting on the table or buy fakes :)
It's funny how the quality changes overseas, desnso here - not preferred at all, but there, they work like a charm i suppose