Roman Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy and the Gospel
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- Опубликовано: 28 ноя 2022
- This is a lecture that Dr. Costa delivered at the Church at War Conference held at Trinity Bible Chapel in Waterloo, Ontario, Canada (November 17-19, 2022). Does Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy preach and teach the biblical Gospel of grace? In this lecture Dr. Costa argues that they do not. While we may agree on the fundamentals of the Christian faith articulated in the Creeds of the Church, the Gospel remains the dividing line according to Galatians 1:6-9.
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Learned more about Eastern Orthodox Church today. Thank You Dr Costa
Thank you dear brother
Thanks Tony, It always puzzles me when a Protestant leaves the faith and joins Catholic Church. I myself left RC Church long ago and would never go back. Greetings 🙏
Why did you leave
@@bond3161 RC Church is full of rituals and ceremonies. There's no worship in Spirit and Truth (John 4:24). It's a dead end religion.
They don't read the bible
@@nightowl7066 what is the basis to believe in the scripts that were written by the Apostles and forefathers that the Catholic Church claims to have lineage in ge Protestant that has NO lineage)
@Bond, the author of the Scriptures is Holy Spirit who used apostles and prophets, and inspired them to write the Scriptures. Unless you don't believe that Bible was inspired and guided by God. That would explain the basis of your argument. Cheers
It seems like its very hard to get people to understand that works are the fruit of the faith but not the root. Works are one of the proofs of being saved but not what saves. Its very hard for people to understand and even when people do understand, its still a struggle to accept. I enjoyed your sermon. Thank you.
Amen!
Thanks Dr. Costa, God bless you and your family
Thank you Dr. Costa. Very informative and engaging!!!
Thank you for another superb lecture Dr. Costa!
I recommend Gavin Ortlund, The Other Paul, Barely Protestant, New Kingdom Media and Dr Jordan B Coopers RUclips channels for classic Protestantism views if you’re considering Rome or the East
@Thoska Brah Anthony is a must
Yes, all of the above, Dr. Steve. Nemes also.
Hi kids
Very nice sermon Tony. Have a blessed Holiday, you and your whole family.
Great job Brother Costa! God is Great! I had some questions about this same topic. Last night I asked the Lord for some clarity and when I woke up this morning Bam, Your presentation! I will do some research on this but great way to start my day! God bless you brother and your ministry!
Thank you Mr Costa. Excellent presentation and very informative. We have so much to be thankful for. Thank you for the reminder.
Great presentation, thanks Dr Tony!
Great Video!!!! God bless you Dr. Costa! Wish I could see the slides
"if angel appears to you with a dolby sound system and lights and proclaims a different gospel" - this kind of sounds like Islam...
Be Blessed, great sermon.
Thank you Brother. Blessings.
@@tonycostatorontoapologetic5307 Tomorrow this whole sermon will be ready in Polish.
@@BeniaminZaboj thank you for your ministry. Blessings.
Excellent presentation!
I anathematized Rome for her paganism.
And yet Rome has lineage tracing back to apostles
@@bond3161 So do I so follow me.
@@truthdefenders- how so?
@@bond3161 I declared it a blasphemous abomination and curse it to hell. ☺
@@truthdefenders- that has nothing to do with lineage?
Awesome summary to the point explanation!
I don't understand why it's so difficult to understand the important of works
In James, it is said you show me your faith and I'll show you my faith by my works. Even demons believe in God.
Are we saved if we say we have faith but commit murder, hoard all goods, slander and steal?
Why do we fool ourselves in the important of works?
Could it be that it is BOTH faith AND works?
James differentiate saving and dead faith in James 6.
Excellent 🙏🏽
Tony, you had mentioned about the council of Trent and the fact that Rome teaches that people must go through purgatory first before entering into heaven to purge their remaining “venial sins.” One of the things that Rome teaches is that Mary was bodily assumed to heaven without going through purgatory, and scripture explicitly states that both Enoch and Elijah went directly to heaven without going through purgatory first. So, according to the council of Trent, and by extension Rome, they were justified by faith alone, because they did not have to go through purgatory first. And by stating this they are anathematizing not only Enoch and Elijah, but also Mary, and by extension scripture. Perhaps this is why contemporary Roman Catholic apologists like Jimmy Akin from Catholic Answers are now pushing the narrative that it’s possible that people go directly to heaven without going through purgatory first. But aren’t they conflicting with the council of Trent that states otherwise?
Very educational and thorough review of what Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy teaches, and the danger of Protestant pastors and churches not teaching about what they teach, which explains why Protestants like Cameron Bertuzzi got deceived into believing Roman Catholicism is true Christianity, which it’s not. Very good presentation. This is going in my playlists on my channel. God bless you as always!
Thanks Steve, and yes I agree with you on Mary, Enoch, and Elijah. Blessings to you.
If they died free from mortal, venial sins and temporal punishment (of venial sins), then they will go straight to heaven. Do your homework! Scripture says in 1 John 5:16-17 that there are deadly (mortal) and non-deadly (or venial) sins. James 1:15 says full-grown sin brings death. You ignore what those verses say because ALL you sins (past, present ANDfuture) were already imputed on or counted on Christ (who bore them on the cross) when you had faith.
@@justfromcatholic You mean Enoch and Elijah were free from sin!? Wow! Was that infallibly interpreted by a Pope, or declared an ex cathedra dogma?? You honestly think John in 1 John 5:16-17 was thinking like a Roman Catholic in the categories of mortal and venial sins?? Talk about eisegesis! LOL!! Do you do comedy on the side?? I pray you come to know the blessed assurance that believers have in Christ and learn the great Gospel truth that there is therefore now no condemnation those who are in Christ Jesus (Romans 8:1).
@@tonycostatorontoapologetic5307 We sins from time to time, both deadly and non-deadly. We lose righteousness through sinning as Scripture says in Ezekiel 33:12: "the righteous shall not be able to live by his righteousness when he sins." Ezekiel 33:18 says: "when the righteous turns from his righteousness and commits iniquity, he shall die for it." Moved and enabled by grace we repent and have those sin washed away/forgiven. Ezekiel 33:19 says "when the wicked turns from his wickedness, and does what is lawful and right, he shall live by it." Whoever die with all past mortal sins and venial sins REPENTED (I expressed incorrectly in my previous reply) will go to heaven directly.
You may disagree with Catholic understanding of what 1 John 5:16-17 says. Strangely you do not explain your view based on your exegesis. If ALL your sins (past, present and future) are imputed to Christ who bore them on the cross, regardless their number and intensity then what 1 John 5:16-17, James 1:15, Ezekiel 33:12, 18,19 become meaningless. You cited Rom. 8:1 without looking at those verses. There is no condemnation to those who are in Christ! Yes, but read also Heb. 10:26-27 to see that when we commit sin AFTER having faith our salvation is affected because we are no longer in Christ through sinning, which agrees with what Ezek. 33:12 says! Your hero Martin Luther wrote in his letter to Phillip Melanchthon on 1 August 1521:
No sin will separate us from the Lamb, even though we commit fornication and murder a thousand times a day. (Luther's Works, Vol. 48, page 282)
You have PhD in New Testament Studies and yet you made a GRAVE blunder in saying that the phrase "justified by faith" in Rom. 5:1 was written in Greek passive perfect tense! Shame on you! And you still talk about exegesis?
As a non-Roman Catholic, I would suggest that the Roman Catholic has a few ways out:
1. they believe that Mary is sinless, so she is not justified sola fide, but never sinned.
2. they would seemingly say that in this life you can be purged of venial sins. (aka Enoch and Elijah were by extension). Which I think it the approach Akin takes.
3. Does the council of Trent say that you MUST go through purgatory because generally people have venial sins? OR that you can be free of venial sins.
I thought Paul McCartney said live and let die.
One of McCartney's lines in that song is also: "You used to say live and let live" 🙂
So let’s say you win your argument about justification by faith alone. Which sect do we sign up for?
No sect. Read the Bible, learn it, follow it and serve Christ. I would say keep it simple and don’t follow man and their religions.
My opinion of course. God bless
I still think there can only be one truth. Which may or may not be followed by a or some churches.
But surely some churches ought to be closer than others. I still don't think Protestantism is true. They go too far in their rebellion. They discount too much. Such that they throw out the history, tradition, and interpretation of 1500 years of direct lineage tracing back to apostles.
Our ego must be so big to think 1500 years of church history accounts for nothing except for our own interpretation.
Who is preaching the false gospel condemned by Paul in Gal.1:8-10?
Scripture says God saves us or we are saved by grace through faith (Eph. 2:8) and through sanctification (2 Thes. 2:13). Salvation is a process, not just one time event. If salvation is a process, then so is justification. The Reformers' teaching that faith alone justifies us (Latin sola fide) has no scriptural basis. The phrase "justified by faith" appears four times in NT (Rom. 3:28, 5:1, Gal. 2:16, 3:24). NT was written in Greek and the one in Rom. 3:28 is in Greek passive present tense while the rest are in Greek passive aorist tense. Both present and aorist tenses do NOT indicate a completed justification by faith. If Scripture teaches faith-alone justification, then the Holy Spirit would inspire Paul to write the phrase "justified by faith" in Greek passive perfect tense.
Dr. Costa keeps on repeating the same mistake by claiming the one in Rom. 5:1 was written in passive perfect tense - it was not.
The Reformers taught that through faith alone justification we get Christ' righteousness imputed on or counted on us, while all our sins (past, present AND FUTURE) are imputed on or counted on Christ who bore them on the cross. We are not made righteous but are only declared righteous based on alien righteousness of Christ - we remain sinner at the same time. That is why followers of the Reformers love saying that we are saved solely by what Christ did on the cross (Latin solus Christus). However Scripture denies double imputation when it says in Ezek. 18:20: "the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself." Scripture denies that we can be both righteous and sinner at the same time in Ezek. 33:12: "the righteous shall not be able to live by his righteousness when he sins". According to the Reformers: (1) God will let us enter heaven while we remain unrighteous because our sins are covered by Christ’ righteousness; (2) God directed His wrath and anger to Christ because our sins are imputed on or counted on Him, while He remains sinless and righteous. Compare this teaching with what Scripture says in Prov. 17:15: “he who justifies the wicked and he who condemns the righteous are both alike an abomination to the Lord”.
Catholics, on the other hand, believe that through justification we are made righteous (PASSIVE) through Christ (Rom. 5:19). By ourselves we can never become righteous. We lose righteousness through sinning as stated in Ezek. 33:12 cited above. Scripture says there are deadly and non-deadly sins (1 John 5:16-17) and full-grown sins bring death (James 1:15). Under imputation concept of the Reformers what those verses say become meaningless as ALL our sins are counted on Christ, regardless of their numbers and/or intensity. In Catholic teaching, moved and enabled by grace we repent and have our sins washed away or forgiven to regain our righteous state back. Faith is counted as righteousness (Rom. 4:3) - Catholics do believe that through faith we are made righteous. But to do what is right also makes us righteous (1 John 3:7). Faith is counted for righteousness to Abraham (Gen. 15:6) but what is counted (the same Hebrew verb as used in Gen. 15:6) to Phinehas for righteousness in Psalms 106:31 is not faith but what he did. Our ability both to have faith, to do what is right and to repent comes from and is only possible by grace through Christ as apart from Him we can do nothing (John 15:5).
Why being made righteous is essential? Scripture says it is righteousness that delivers from death (Prov. 10:2) and Jesus said in Mat. 25:46 that the righteous shall go to eternal life. Yet the Reformers taught that we do not need to become righteous to enter heaven because we can never achieve it - what we need is alien/external righteousness of Christ imputed on us (which does not make us righteous). Catholics believe that we are saved by what Christ did on the cross and by what He and/or God do in us, that is we are transformed by grace (NOT by our own effort) from our unrighteous state to righteous one.
37:24 Nice, a Simpsons quote
In the video Dr. Costa accused Catholics of re-sacrificing Christ in every Mass. This is false accusation and Catholics do have scriptural reason why (1) we have altar in our churches, (2) we have sacrifice of the Mass, (3) we have priest. All those three were denied by the Reformers.
According to Heb. 10:1 the Law (of Moses) is a shadow of the good things to come instead of their true forms. The Law has general priesthood of all Israelites (Exod. 19:6), Levitical priesthood (male descendants of Aaron) and High Priests (chosen among Levitical priests, one at a time). The New Covenant that came through Christ has general priesthood of all believers (1 Peter 2:5, Rev. 1:6). Christ is the only High Priest of the New Covenant of order of Melchizedek (Heb. 5:5, 8:1). How about Levitical priests? Following the Reformers, Protestants assume Levitical priesthood was abolished with the coming of Christ. But is this true?
When God established Levitical priesthood, He declared it to be perpetual (Exodus 40:15). Numbers 18:19 applies “covenant of salt” to this priesthood, which means it will last forever as salt is used to preserve food. Covenant of salt appears twice in OT and the second one is applied to kingship of David and his descendants through Solomon in 2 Chronicles 13:5, which is based on God’s promise to David (2 Samuel 7:12-13) - God will establish his throne through Solomon forever. The perpetuity of both Davidic kingship and Levitical priesthood were later reaffirmed by prophet Jeremiah in dual prophecy in Jer. 33:17-18. The first was fulfilled in Christ (Luke 1:32-33) and the second one is fulfilled in Levitical priests of the New Covenant who are the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox priests. Another prophecy in Isaiah 66:21 says that God will take as priests and levites from all the nations, or they no longer have to be Jewish. Levitical priests of Judaism cannot fulfill Jer. 33:18 - without their Jerusalem Temple they are no longer able to offer any sacrifice and/or all types of offerings as prescribed in OT (Lev. 1 to 7). Christ Himself put an end to OT sacrifice and offerings according to Heb. 10:9-10 by His own Sacrifice on the cross, once for all. Yet Heb. 10:13 says “we have an altar” - the word “altar” is related to sacrifice, and “we” refers to Christians, not to Jews who then still had altar in their Jerusalem Temple (if Hebrews was written before destruction of Jerusalem Temple). What kind of sacrifice offered by New Covenant Levitical priests - priests without sacrifice are not priests?
They make present the same sacrifice Christ made on the cross in every Mass. To understand it we need to refer to Rev. 13::8 that refers Christ as the Lamb slain before the foundation of the world. The Greek verb "slain" is in Greek passive perfect tense. Unlike that of English Greek perfect tense indicates the action described by the verb (to be slain) was completed in the past with continuing effect to the present. For comparison the phrase "it is written", referring to Scripture, is also in Greek passive perfect tense. Scripture was completely written in the past and remains written ever since. Whenever you buy a new Bible in any language, Scripture is REPRINTED but it is NOT REWRITTEN. From what Christ told Mary Magdalene after His resurrection we know that He did not ascend to God the Father (who is) in heaven after He died on the cross (John 20:17). This meant He did not offer Himself in heavenly sanctuary (Hebrews 8:5, 9: 11) after crucifixion. He already did it before the foundation of the world after being slain (Rev. 13:8), which is even stated in Heb. 9:26 where the phrase “from the foundation of the world” is also mentioned. The same verse says that Christ appeared (in active perfect tense) once for all to put away sin by his sacrifice, which refer to crucifixion. Crucifixion is the appearance of His being slain from the foundation of the world. The above should explain why Catholics believe His Sacrifice on the cross can be made present in every Mass and that is why we have priests and altar. Christ is not re-sacrificed in every Mass, just like Scripture is NOT rewritten whenever you buy a new Bible in any language.
The Roman Catholic Church didn’t begin with the Fatima apparitions! What rubbish!