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Aside from all the issues this episode, I'm still very concerned about the age differences. It was brought up age-appropriate songs for the groups. What will work for a group with say an 12 year old and a 23 year old, cute will be laughed at for the adults and teen crush or girl crush would be seen as too adult for the pre-teens. I really feel like two groups should be made one out of class 1 and 2 and one out of 3 and 4. This way the ages are all similar and a concept would for the group as a whole and not one or 2 members. As much as this show is trying to be unique it sure is a lot of the same same.
this would only be a concern if literally the oldest and the youngest girl on the show (12 year age difference) debuted, which is pretty unlikely. i think the most likely scenario is that the oldest girl in the girl group will be a 01 liner and the youngest a 08 liner, which is a 7 year difference. a lot of ggs have a larger age gap than that (e.g. izone, red velvet, girls day, 2ne1)
This was honestly so gross. It was obviously not a "malfunction" but created to stir up fake drama. I feel so bad for Hyolim. After the awful second voting, the camera kept following her + the others, showing how she was in agony crying. I felt tears too but because I was so angry. So this is why people called this show cruel! MBC disappointed me so much. They should've let Hyolim stay or offer a proper apology.
@@minxbella9342 really? I know Mnet is the one who is known for evil editing but I didn't know MBC is the same. What other shows prior to this one did MBC evil edit??
@@NamuIsIdle true I got confused with Mnet but MBC got a scandal before this for Tokyo 2020.. Their commentary or is it presentation? Idk how to explain it.. But they make a really rude explanation slide or is it commentary? Anyway they did other athlete country during the live show on tv dirty
I don't even watch this show but for some reason I feel compelled to watch your episode reviews. Then I pick and choose what clips I want to watch after lol Also I really hope they bring back the 4th grade trainee who started training at college age, Yooyeon. Glad to see I am not the only one. It looked like she would grow quickly as a performer and that her elimination was premature.
It's more acceptable here since there was a preshow that allowed us to learn about most of the contestants and their skills before the actual evaluations began. Also it would be weird to have the entrance exams last 3 or 4 episodes, that'll be too long.
If they didn't create this fake drama with the Now Team and waste so much time focusing on one member per group for their visuals, there might be time to show all performances...
I mean there literally was a preshow for all the contestants and a separate youtube channel for all the beginning training and performances... they literally can't make an episode 6 hours long to showcase everything... its common sense to display the top moments on television for a good show...
I love how this was marketed as super international casting but only East Asians made it through at all and the Chinese members got eliminated for their accent and the Japanese members were eliminated without giving a reason lmao
Yeah. I was disappointed by this as well. And I don't understand why so many people were throw off by the fact that the japanese group choose to start singing in japanese. Some contestants sang english song and I didn't see any reaction. Also, I hate when foreigner trainees and idols are criticized for having an accent. Some people take years to loose their accent in a language, doesn't mean that can't speak that langague well.
I mean…it’s kind of an unspoken thing that when a company or a show markets a group as global/international, they just mean East Asian or southeast Asian. I don’t understand why people are surprised with it at this point.
@@dreamyvelvets6081 bc they showed auditions from many other countries and even if they only want east asians, there were auditions from east asians living in western countries as well
1:06 I knew it!!! that pretty girl in the non-contact evaluators was Lee Sian. I was wondering first if it is really her, now this confirms what I thought. Thanks!
Talking about how unfair it was to not give Kim Dasol and Kim Yumin attention and treat them as Yoojin's extras just to refer to them as "Oh Yoojin's teammates," not even by name...
One thing that concern me is that the age limitation for the girls to join this..the producer should limit the age of participant because as I see the girls are wearing revealing clothes too much..when the kpop idols used it knetz were on rage saying it too sexualized why no one saying about this..some of them are minor in Teenage girls and some are younger than any of new kpop idols these days..and one more thing the vote teams should look forward to their talent and vote on how they perform not on their face..if they only have the look better just find another job because kpop idols is a singer performer not some model to show their face and walk..no use to have a pretty face but become talentless idol
한 10명 혹은 좀 안되게 합격한 상황인데, 16명씩 총 64명 정도가 합격을 한 것으로 예고편에서의 모습으로 추정을 해 본다면 3화 초중반까지는 나머지 무대 (1,2화 합쳐서 84명 중 50명 정도밖에 안 나온 걸로 압니다) 짧게 할 것 같고, 아마 담임선생님들이 가지고 있는 특별 구제권(패스)이 소개가 되고 진짜 아까웠던 참가자들을 통과시킬 것 같네요. 학년별 배틀은 3화 후반에나 한 20~30분 정도 나오려나? 어차피 무대도 아직 많이 남았어요. 그나저나 진짜 연출 구성이라던지, 편집 과정이라던지. 기본 예절이나 배려라던지. 시청률 올리는 법이라던지. 수준이 참 떨어진다는 느낌이 듭니다. 오유진을 띄워주고 싶으면 그냥 2화에 무대 풀로 넣고 거기서 끝내면 되지 1화에 시간 한 5분 이상 잡아먹고 2화에 나온 분량 고작 30초 (심지어 다른 학생들은 나오지도 않음) / 그리고 살짝설렜어 팀에게 10분이나 시간 잡아먹는것도 이해가 안가고. (방송 분량 한 아무리 많이 잡아도 2분 정도면 어떻게 탈락했는지, 혹평까지 다 넣어서 보여줄 수 있었는데 의도적으로 사람 망신시키려는 수작 같기도 하고 참내.) 그런 것만 땡기고 적절하게 조절만 해도 거의 20초 스쳐간 무대들 전부 3분 무대 까지는 때려 넣을 수 있었다고 봅니다. 한동철이가 얼마나 감이 떨어졌으면 저렇게 초보적인 마인드로 연출을 하는지. 살다살다 안쉽x 가 더 그리워질 정도의 연출력이더라고요.
I personally like if the contestants were judge criteria by criteria, by tjat I mean is: lets say to evaluate their vocal, they should let the audience "JUST LISTEN AND HEAR ONLY" their voice instead of showing the whole performance... just like the voice concept like... this is more fair to prevent bias of visual. for rap, same like to evaluate their vocal... lets say to evaluate their dance, they should invite dancers in seperate room to vote for them. and if they pass these 3 criterias them the contestants may be revealed to the whole audience and then let the judges again to evaluate them... isn't it more fair this way? I can see that most of the voting team only look for the visual.. but so what if they are pretty but untalented, being an idol is not just being a pretty face, it should come with at least one major talent... also they tend to look for cutesy image, but then if the really talented partipants auditioned with a badass concept they tend to not to vote due to they do not fit the cute concept.. but trust me, they can try other concept if you give them a chance... sk first point of view is to see the visual, then if the untalented pretty face particpant debut, they will cancel and bash them instead of supporting them as they lack of training... it will just leave a scar to the them and be traumatised to perform in front of people. but whose fault is that? I know the participant also needs to improve themselves to but if there is other talented one why not them? but that should not be the reason as the voting team really plays a major role to root for whom to debut, so I they should consider this to evaluate the final line up... dang, I didn't know I wrote this long AHAHAHA
방송에서는 무대위주로 보여주고 비하인드 영상은 유투브로 보여줘도 될거 같은데 굳이 비하인드까지 보여주다 보니 어떤 팀들은 무대도 제대로 안보여주고 통편집 수준..........역시나 프듀출신 피디 아니랄까봐...거기다 대형실수 해놓고 참가자들 또 위에 올려서 두번 죽이지를 않나.........탈락한 친구에게 제작진이 제대로 사과나 했는지 의문..그냥 이 프로그램도 본편에 들어가니 프듀랑 다를바 하나도 없음.
This is the voting system for Entrance Mission : Online Voting (ends Nov. 29) Evaluation Team Judges Online voting will save those girls who didn't passed during the entrance mission
What I find really frustrating about the show is how they never give reasoning as to why someone gets eliminated? The judges only stay stuff like "oh this member stood out bc she's so pretty" and she passes but no one mentions why the other members didn't pass?? The Monster team showed one member struggle with illness but she sang really well. What did the judges say? "Jimin (the other girl) you're so pretty you could be a center" give me a break! Chinese trainees were eliminated for their accent (literally wtf) but everyone still acted disappointed that the japanese crew started singing in japanese (even though snsd released the song in japanese themselves so???) and once again, we didn't get a reason why the others didn't pass and only Minami did .. oh wait they did... bc Minami is the prettiest right 😐😑
When they judges + voters were like “omg they’re singing in japanese?” about Hina, Minami and Karina, and the voters LITERALLY STOPPED VOTING FOR THEM, until they started singing the second verse in Korean. The racism really jumped out.
I mean I guess... But I think its fair coz they never advertised the show to be like GP999... they don't actually need there to be foreign members, I would love to see an all korean group for a change lol... And I feel the judges actually do give good reasoning and criticism, but not everything can be broadcasted, so it feels like no reason is given...
If they would just bring back whoever they want after eliminating them, what's the point? It's like they noticed people were angry at eliminating someone so they would only bring them back to save themselves and ultimately toy with these girls' feelings. I think that's just worse than evil editing.
I think there will be like a judges veto system to get in eliminated participants at the end as a surprise... which is good, coz there should be a balance of audience votes and judges decisions lol...
1:30 이건 앞으로 어린 애들이 오디션보면서 무조건 겪게될 문제인게 요즘 kpop걸그룹 트렌드가 청순컨셉은 멸종직전이고 걸크러시가 주류가 되면서 힙해보여야하는데 15세 전까진 누가봐도 애기티나잖아요. 반면 컨셉은 누가봐도 어른스러워야하는데 암만 메이크업 진하게하고 어른같이 입어도 그 갭차이는 절대 좁히지 못하는 부분이기 때문이죠.
🗣🗣 *Attention* *everyone!!* 🗣🗣
Have you listened to the song *'Peaches'* by Kai?
Would you be willing out fill out a quick survey about it?
We're planning a video to introduce how fans think about Kai's new song,
and we want you to be a part of this video!
forms.gle/2djUHU57Rk8kJrc89
Please click the link above and answer the questions, if you are interested!
Thanks!
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패자부활전 시스템은 좋네요... 관객평가단 기준이 너무 없어서 안타까운친구들이 있엇는데 ㅠㅠ
전 송예림님과 강은우님이 너무 아쉽네요.........ㅜㅜㅜㅜ
관개평가단은 그냥 인기투표인점도 있음. 이번 쇼미10 소코도모vs비오만 봐도 알수있을거임
관객평가로 결정하는게 아니라 10~30퍼센트정도 비중만 두는걸로 갔어야됨.. 평가단 사람들이 저렇게 책임감없이 막뽑아놓을줄 몰랐음
난 김유연 탈락도 왜 했는지 이유모르겠고 살짝설렜어 팀은 아무리 안타까워도 누르는게 이해가 안됬지
@@Napalm47 김유연 얼굴은 역대급인데 노래를 너무 못 불러서 심사위원들은 그게 마음에 안 들었나 봐요.
합격여부 번복은 진짜... 너무 준비부족이랄까... 그 실수를 방송에 내며 우린 우리의 문제까지 방송에 내보낸다 라는 전략이었나 싶기도 하고... 그리고 탈락자에 관한건 투표에 관한거 같은데... 복잡하게도 꽈놓은거 같은
투표시스템 오류라고 나오더군요. 제한 시간내에 버튼을 누르는 방식인데 그걸 제대로 못한거 같음.
걍 그건 심사위원 문제임 늦게 눌러서
1:06 나만 시안이 본건가 싶었는데 여기서 언급해주니 반갑네요ㅠ
I feel bad for the girl who got eliminated twice but I feel worse for the girls who had good stages that got skipped over.
Yeah. I waiting for "something new" stage
지상파 방송의 오디션 프로그램이 맞는지 살짝 의심스러울 정도...
편집도 해야 할 사람이랑 안 할 사람 구분 못하는 느낌에 시스템 오류로 탈락자 두 번 죽이기까지.
MBC 이거 맞나..?
I hope Yerim and Eunwoo could continue on this show, how talented and pretty like them could be eliminated. Root for River Team
in the preview for next ep, u can see yerim in one of the cuts!
@@charissajeong7991 i hope eunwoo returns tho i thought she did best
관객평가단은 무슨 의미가 있는지 몰겠음
1차 통과해서 문열려봐야 결국은 심사위원들의 평가로 합격여부가 갈리는거고
1화에서 그랬듯 문이 안 열리면 통과할만한 사람도 아예 기회조차 못 받으니 이해할 수 없는 시스템
대중의 선택은 무시할수 없는건 분명함
관객평가는 대부분의 음악 프로그램에서 사용할정도로 효과있는 시스템임
아이돌은 대중의 인기가 중요한 부분을 차지 하기 때문에 충분히 이해됨
@@Yeon327 그 대중의 선택이 결국엔 심사위원의 선택으로 결정난다는 것도 문제라는거죠
ㅁㅈ 왜굳이 두번으로해서 사람피말리는지..?
아예 대중투표로 가든가 아예 심사위원 픽으로 가야지..
평가단 각 한개씩 와일드카드 제도가 있었으면 좋았을거같네요😓 관객 평가단에 대한 기준이 너무 없었던거 같아요😑 (좋았다고 느꼈던 팀은 탈락하고 살짝 설렛어... 이팀은...음😅)
특정 인물 밀어주기 편집도 꽤 보이구...(ex. 오유진)
확인 사살도 아니고 무슨... 참가자들을 진짜.... 솔직히 내 개인적인 생각이지만 오마이걸 노래인 살짝 설렜어는 진짜... 오바였다고 생각함..
솔직히 패자부활전 시스템은 정말 좋은거같아요 ,,,,
엄청 아까운친구들이 있었는데 ㅠㅠ
@꽃 맞아요ㅠㅠ
유연이....
@@lovesana1229 킹정
Aside from all the issues this episode, I'm still very concerned about the age differences. It was brought up age-appropriate songs for the groups. What will work for a group with say an 12 year old and a 23 year old, cute will be laughed at for the adults and teen crush or girl crush would be seen as too adult for the pre-teens.
I really feel like two groups should be made one out of class 1 and 2 and one out of 3 and 4. This way the ages are all similar and a concept would for the group as a whole and not one or 2 members. As much as this show is trying to be unique it sure is a lot of the same same.
I was wondering about this myself...the ages of these idols are becoming really concerning
i also felt that having only 7 members for the debut group was too small- not even 2 of each grade could make it into the group
this would only be a concern if literally the oldest and the youngest girl on the show (12 year age difference) debuted, which is pretty unlikely. i think the most likely scenario is that the oldest girl in the girl group will be a 01 liner and the youngest a 08 liner, which is a 7 year difference. a lot of ggs have a larger age gap than that (e.g. izone, red velvet, girls day, 2ne1)
Or just take out grade 1 and 2
@@lilpme YUP IM HOPING THEY WONT BE 7 MEMBERS FOR THE GROUP THATS WAY TO SMALL IM HOPING IT WILL BE AT LEAST 12 MEMBERS IN THE DEBUT LINE OR 13
This was honestly so gross. It was obviously not a "malfunction" but created to stir up fake drama. I feel so bad for Hyolim. After the awful second voting, the camera kept following her + the others, showing how she was in agony crying. I felt tears too but because I was so angry. So this is why people called this show cruel! MBC disappointed me so much. They should've let Hyolim stay or offer a proper apology.
It's MBC what do you expect.. MBC have been known for their evil editing since before this show.. I have no hope for MBC program tbh
@@minxbella9342 really? I know Mnet is the one who is known for evil editing but I didn't know MBC is the same. What other shows prior to this one did MBC evil edit??
@@mr.a9696 I probably mistook MBC for MNET but still there is a lot of issue with this show tbh
@@minxbella9342 isn't Mnet the evil editing one? MBC have never done a survival program lol
@@NamuIsIdle true I got confused with Mnet but MBC got a scandal before this for Tokyo 2020.. Their commentary or is it presentation? Idk how to explain it.. But they make a really rude explanation slide or is it commentary? Anyway they did other athlete country during the live show on tv dirty
3:57에 기계 오작동으로인해 효림이가 2번 상처받았네...........
제목처럼 제작진이 진짜로 참가자 두번 죽이네.
I don't even watch this show but for some reason I feel compelled to watch your episode reviews. Then I pick and choose what clips I want to watch after lol
Also I really hope they bring back the 4th grade trainee who started training at college age, Yooyeon. Glad to see I am not the only one. It looked like she would grow quickly as a performer and that her elimination was premature.
she is my no1 ick to make the final lineup, shocked to se her go in the first episode
same lol... I don't have time to watch the entire episode, so I watch these short summaries...
와 진짜 김유연 탈락하기엔 너무 아까웠는데
너무 다행이다 진짜 너무 좋네 패자부활전
스타성이 진짜 중요한듯 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 무대 한번보고 자꾸 유연님 생각나던데... 패자부활 있어서 다행이네요..
ㄹㅇ루...
MBC had us fooled. The camera time distribution is 110% unfair. It's no different than Mnet shows. They have clearly picked 15-20 favorites already.
i see you everywhere
As expected it's the same producer of pd101 season 1
It's more acceptable here since there was a preshow that allowed us to learn about most of the contestants and their skills before the actual evaluations began. Also it would be weird to have the entrance exams last 3 or 4 episodes, that'll be too long.
If they didn't create this fake drama with the Now Team and waste so much time focusing on one member per group for their visuals, there might be time to show all performances...
I mean there literally was a preshow for all the contestants and a separate youtube channel for all the beginning training and performances... they literally can't make an episode 6 hours long to showcase everything... its common sense to display the top moments on television for a good show...
진짜로 두번 탈락시키는건 방송에 굳이 넣었어야하는지.. 그리고 왜 무대에 다시올리는지 참가자 멘탈도 그렇고 부모님들이 관객으로 보고계시는데 얼마나 가슴이 찢어지시겠어..ㅠㅠ
방과후설렘 보면서 매번 저런 방식으로 탈락이 결정되면 10명을 딱 맞추기는 힘들 거라는 생각이 들었었는데 두유람님 영상을 보니 궁금증이 해결된 것 같아 좋네요:)
본방+두유람님영상=방과후 설렘 완벽이해 ☺️
와우!:) 감사합니다!!!
I love how this was marketed as super international casting but only East Asians made it through at all and the Chinese members got eliminated for their accent and the Japanese members were eliminated without giving a reason lmao
Yeah. I was disappointed by this as well. And I don't understand why so many people were throw off by the fact that the japanese group choose to start singing in japanese. Some contestants sang english song and I didn't see any reaction. Also, I hate when foreigner trainees and idols are criticized for having an accent. Some people take years to loose their accent in a language, doesn't mean that can't speak that langague well.
Koreans are racist , why you expect something different?
I mean…it’s kind of an unspoken thing that when a company or a show markets a group as global/international, they just mean East Asian or southeast Asian. I don’t understand why people are surprised with it at this point.
@@dreamyvelvets6081 that show is korean only, the other girls from China and Japan is just for the appearances
@@dreamyvelvets6081 bc they showed auditions from many other countries and even if they only want east asians, there were auditions from east asians living in western countries as well
1:06 I knew it!!! that pretty girl in the non-contact evaluators was Lee Sian. I was wondering first if it is really her, now this confirms what I thought. Thanks!
Surprising results but honestly good that we can see more contestants from 3rd and 4th grade
그치 나만 이시안 본거 아니지?
보자마자 생각났는데 자주 비춰주길래 확신했음 더 예뻐진듯ㄷㄷ
Talking about how unfair it was to not give Kim Dasol and Kim Yumin attention and treat them as Yoojin's extras just to refer to them as "Oh Yoojin's teammates," not even by name...
Applause to soyeon 💜💜💜 she make something incredible including this survival program. Soyeon you did great job 💜💜 do your best as a mentor. 💜💜💜💜
저는 본명이 이효림인데 효림님 떨어지는게 제가 떨어지는거같고 그래서 더 속상하네요ㅠㅠ 본방 챙겨보고 그러진 않았지만 힘내셨으면 좋겠네요❤🥺
They should bring back eunwoo and yerim, they deserved to have gone through the 2nd round
김유연은 진짜 다시 합격했으면..얼굴이 예쁜것도있지만 진짜 공부때문에 포기했던 꿈인만큼 합격했으면
Looks like soyeon straightened them the hell out.
방과후 설렘 아이들도 좋지만, 비타민 시안... 잘 되길 바란다.
One thing that concern me is that the age limitation for the girls to join this..the producer should limit the age of participant because as I see the girls are wearing revealing clothes too much..when the kpop idols used it knetz were on rage saying it too sexualized why no one saying about this..some of them are minor in Teenage girls and some are younger than any of new kpop idols these days..and one more thing the vote teams should look forward to their talent and vote on how they perform not on their face..if they only have the look better just find another job because kpop idols is a singer performer not some model to show their face and walk..no use to have a pretty face but become talentless idol
기계실수 때문에 또 상처 받는 건 너무하네
한 10명 혹은 좀 안되게 합격한 상황인데, 16명씩 총 64명 정도가 합격을 한 것으로 예고편에서의 모습으로 추정을 해 본다면 3화 초중반까지는 나머지 무대 (1,2화 합쳐서 84명 중 50명 정도밖에 안 나온 걸로 압니다) 짧게 할 것 같고, 아마 담임선생님들이 가지고 있는 특별 구제권(패스)이 소개가 되고 진짜 아까웠던 참가자들을 통과시킬 것 같네요. 학년별 배틀은 3화 후반에나 한 20~30분 정도 나오려나? 어차피 무대도 아직 많이 남았어요. 그나저나 진짜 연출 구성이라던지, 편집 과정이라던지. 기본 예절이나 배려라던지. 시청률 올리는 법이라던지. 수준이 참 떨어진다는 느낌이 듭니다. 오유진을 띄워주고 싶으면 그냥 2화에 무대 풀로 넣고 거기서 끝내면 되지 1화에 시간 한 5분 이상 잡아먹고 2화에 나온 분량 고작 30초 (심지어 다른 학생들은 나오지도 않음) / 그리고 살짝설렜어 팀에게 10분이나 시간 잡아먹는것도 이해가 안가고. (방송 분량 한 아무리 많이 잡아도 2분 정도면 어떻게 탈락했는지, 혹평까지 다 넣어서 보여줄 수 있었는데 의도적으로 사람 망신시키려는 수작 같기도 하고 참내.) 그런 것만 땡기고 적절하게 조절만 해도 거의 20초 스쳐간 무대들 전부 3분 무대 까지는 때려 넣을 수 있었다고 봅니다. 한동철이가 얼마나 감이 떨어졌으면 저렇게 초보적인 마인드로 연출을 하는지. 살다살다 안쉽x 가 더 그리워질 정도의 연출력이더라고요.
어우 내가 진짜 하고 싶은말
Thank you for very nice summary and for subtitles!
Imagine how destroyed her confidence must be after getting eliminated twice :/
이거 잘하는애들 극적인 연출 보여주려고 일부러 떨어트린담에 패부로 부활시킬듯... 이런식으로 밀어주는거 넘싫다... 프듀에서 좆타쉽애들 보는거같음
I personally like if the contestants were judge criteria by criteria, by tjat I mean is:
lets say to evaluate their vocal, they should let the audience "JUST LISTEN AND HEAR ONLY" their voice instead of showing the whole performance... just like the voice concept like... this is more fair to prevent bias of visual.
for rap, same like to evaluate their vocal...
lets say to evaluate their dance, they should invite dancers in seperate room to vote for them.
and if they pass these 3 criterias them the contestants may be revealed to the whole audience and then let the judges again to evaluate them...
isn't it more fair this way? I can see that most of the voting team only look for the visual.. but so what if they are pretty but untalented, being an idol is not just being a pretty face, it should come with at least one major talent... also they tend to look for cutesy image, but then if the really talented partipants auditioned with a badass concept they tend to not to vote due to they do not fit the cute concept.. but trust me, they can try other concept if you give them a chance...
sk first point of view is to see the visual, then if the untalented pretty face particpant debut, they will cancel and bash them instead of supporting them as they lack of training... it will just leave a scar to the them and be traumatised to perform in front of people. but whose fault is that? I know the participant also needs to improve themselves to but if there is other talented one why not them? but that should not be the reason as the voting team really plays a major role to root for whom to debut, so I they should consider this to evaluate the final line up...
dang, I didn't know I wrote this long AHAHAHA
If it was dance, I’d say let them dance w a mask on. UNTIL they decide who passes and who doesn’t. This is a visual competition. This show is so messy
I completely agree!! The audience made me angry many times with the way they were reacting 🤦♀️
방송에서는 무대위주로 보여주고 비하인드 영상은 유투브로 보여줘도 될거 같은데 굳이 비하인드까지 보여주다 보니 어떤 팀들은 무대도 제대로 안보여주고 통편집 수준..........역시나 프듀출신 피디 아니랄까봐...거기다 대형실수 해놓고 참가자들 또 위에 올려서 두번 죽이지를 않나.........탈락한 친구에게 제작진이 제대로 사과나 했는지 의문..그냥 이 프로그램도 본편에 들어가니 프듀랑 다를바 하나도 없음.
은우 언니 패자부활전으로 올라와라 제발 존버 간다
빌보드 차트인이 목표라는 프로그램..
희망고문도 모자라 그냥 선을 대폭 넘었네
저 정도면 그 자리에서 표출해도 이상하지 않았겠다
간절해서 갔는데 저게 뭐야 진짜
This is the voting system for Entrance Mission :
Online Voting (ends Nov. 29)
Evaluation Team
Judges
Online voting will save those girls who didn't passed during the entrance mission
4학년 중에서도 너무 애기처럼 보이는 아이들이 많고 1학년 2학년은 영락없이 애기고... 너무 보기가 안타깝고 괴로워서 유튜브 클립으로만 보고 있는데 실상은 더 잔인하군요... 상처를 안받을 수는 없기에 아이들이 큰일만 없이 잘 이겨냈으면 좋겠습니다
RIVER TEAM FIGHTING!!!
두번죽인 참가자에게 한번더 기회줘야한다고 생각한다 정말 짜증났다
What I find really frustrating about the show is how they never give reasoning as to why someone gets eliminated? The judges only stay stuff like "oh this member stood out bc she's so pretty" and she passes but no one mentions why the other members didn't pass??
The Monster team showed one member struggle with illness but she sang really well. What did the judges say? "Jimin (the other girl) you're so pretty you could be a center" give me a break!
Chinese trainees were eliminated for their accent (literally wtf) but everyone still acted disappointed that the japanese crew started singing in japanese (even though snsd released the song in japanese themselves so???) and once again, we didn't get a reason why the others didn't pass and only Minami did .. oh wait they did... bc Minami is the prettiest right 😐😑
When they judges + voters were like “omg they’re singing in japanese?” about Hina, Minami and Karina, and the voters LITERALLY STOPPED VOTING FOR THEM, until they started singing the second verse in Korean. The racism really jumped out.
TALK YO SHIT!!!!
@@gottaloveyerim7086 It’s not that unexpected after watching GP999.
I mean I guess... But I think its fair coz they never advertised the show to be like GP999... they don't actually need there to be foreign members, I would love to see an all korean group for a change lol... And I feel the judges actually do give good reasoning and criticism, but not everything can be broadcasted, so it feels like no reason is given...
@@gottaloveyerim7086 ?? 인종차별? 한국에서 아이돌을 하려고 하는데 일본어로 노래를 부루면 누가 가사를 알아듣죠? 아이돌은 예쁘기만 해서 되는것이 아닙니다
그래도 2번상처준거 정말미안하다고 평가하시는 선생님 이 말하셨어요!
If they would just bring back whoever they want after eliminating them, what's the point? It's like they noticed people were angry at eliminating someone so they would only bring them back to save themselves and ultimately toy with these girls' feelings. I think that's just worse than evil editing.
yeah
Fyi there's still online voting that can save those girls who didn't pass during the entrance mission
I think there will be like a judges veto system to get in eliminated participants at the end as a surprise... which is good, coz there should be a balance of audience votes and judges decisions lol...
추가합격자는 1학년 1명,2학년5명,3학년은
.예주언니가..다쳐서..결국..나갔고 효림언니가들어갔고 4학년은 유연언니포참해서2명더들어갔다고합니다.
근데 진짜 소연이 말이 맞음... 관객평가단도 어웅 귀여웡~ 말고 실력을 봐줬으면...
이야 진짜 불쌍하더라 두번 죽이는거잖아.
하기사 추가로 붙은 얘가 왜 떨어지나 의아하기도 했지만.
두번 떨어지는걸 확인한 그 얘는 안쓰럽더라.
2화 유툽에서 봤는데 이렇게 올려주시니 좋네요 💕 항상 화이팅하세요!! :)
감사합니다!:)) 롬님도 화이팅!!!
박보은님은 진짜 잘한거같다
Thanks for the review!!
You're welcome!
Thanks for watching!!
승은아 제발 부활하자
1:08 보는데 이분 많이? 비춰주시는거같아서 보고 '이시안닮았다' 생각했는데 진짜 이시안인줄은 몰랐지..
I'm disappointed only Minami passed
so bad they didn't even show Park Haneum's performance 🙃
정확한 이유는 모르겠는데 전체적으로 실력이 딸려서 그런건지 걸플에 비해 시작 무대들이 별 재미가 없었음 눈에 확 들어오는 참가자도 없었고... 미친듯이 잘하는 참가자가 없달까 다 뭔가 부족한 느낌? 걸플볼때는 튀는 참가자 꽤 많았는데 엠넷이 참가자를 잘 뽑은건가
걸스플래닛 보고 이것보다 더 최악인 프로가 있을 수 있을까 했는데 그걸 방과후 설렘이 해내네.
진짜 눈길 가는 애들 한 명도 없는....
정확한 지적이십니다
그걸 해냅니다
mbc가
기계 오작동으로 2번 상처 받은 효림이
추가합격으로 붙었어요!!
1:30 이건 앞으로 어린 애들이 오디션보면서 무조건 겪게될 문제인게
요즘 kpop걸그룹 트렌드가 청순컨셉은 멸종직전이고 걸크러시가 주류가 되면서 힙해보여야하는데 15세 전까진 누가봐도 애기티나잖아요. 반면 컨셉은 누가봐도 어른스러워야하는데 암만 메이크업 진하게하고 어른같이 입어도 그 갭차이는 절대 좁히지 못하는 부분이기 때문이죠.
오..!시안언니.. 이제 연예계활동은 안하니요? 언제나 응원해요!
효림아 탈출 축하해!!!!
is the first evaluation over already? there are stages that were not aired and aren't on yt either
I know! I'm so confused. Can someone plz explain??
Yeah I really want to see Bang sunhee yoojeong and Subin performance
4명중에 2명 붙었는데 오류라고 다시 올려서 3명붙이면 한명은 어찌냐 확인사살이냐?ㅉㅉㅉ
1화때부터 이시안 나온거 알고 있었던 1인
효림아..
평가단 어이가 없어서 머하는것들인지 ㅡㅡ
그냥 귀욥다고 막 누루는 인간들 에라이
오늘 방청 갔다옴 ㅎ
Aw Hyolim deserved better :(
What happened to Lee Mihee and her team? I didn't see her at all so far.
Yes, yooyeon will be back
i feel sorry for hyolim ;-;
이시안인가 했는데 진짜 이시안이네ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ
What exactly are they hoped for with this show?
The first team of Japanese trainees deserved better
I don't get why two of them got eliminated? I'm so confused
Wait, yooyeon is back? How come?
because of online voting she's no. 1 among 4th grader
관객평가단 진짜 내 생각이랑 80% 는 달라서 진짜 당황했었음 뭐지
엠넷이랑 케이블에서 서바이벌이 성공하고있으니
따라는해야겠고 서바이벌 만든경험은없고
이것저것 다른방송국 서바이벌프로 참고하다보니
허점이 튀어나오고 돌발상황을 어떻게 대처해야할지 모르는게 너무 보인다..
제작진이 어린 아이들을 너무 상업성,화제성으로만 이용해먹으려함..
lol at everyone who said this show is better than produce series. Except the mentor, everything is the same for me.
The CRAZY team was amazing!!! ✨🥰❤️🔥🤩
오 패자부활!!
유연이 탈락하고 티비 껐는데 다시 켜도 되겠네요 다행다행ㅠㅠ
진짜 애를 왜 두번 죽이냐
사람한테 할일 아니더라
그래도 엠넷같은 일이 안일어나서 참 다행이지 투표가 잘못됬다고 제때 말해주는게 이 프로그램은 투표조작 논란은 없겠다는 생각이 든다
근데 저 솔직히 참가자 두 번 죽이는 거에 방송 중에 김 리나 어머니가 투표 결과 다시 발표한다고 하니까 자기 딸 떨어질 까봐 칫 하는 거.. 어머니도 문제고 저거 잡은 제작진도 문제인듯?
hi all, where can i watch teenage girl with eng subtitles full version? :) thanks
Wow, so cool
나도 저거 본방으로 보고 애 두번 죽인다고 욕 많이 했는데....
혹시 저희 방타니들 인스타계정이 생겼는데 동영상으로 만들어주실수있으실까요🥺
What song did the girl at 4:12 perform? It has been stuck in my head lol
taemin - goodbye
where do you guys watch the full episodes?
부관참시에 이어 효림에게 아나운서의 불싸지르는 질문.
제작진 미친거 아닌가..두번 탈락한 효림이
너무 안쓰럽다
3화 리뷰 언제해주시나요??ㅠㅠ
Now팀 전원이 아니라 팀원 일부가 지방에 살고 있는건데.. 중의적으로 들려서 표기를 좀 더 정확히 해주셨음 좋겠습니다
정확한 정보 전달을 위해 힘써주셔서 감사합니다🙏
그치?어쩐지어디서많이본거같드라
이시안이였어
두유람님 오늘 더보이즈 4주년이에요!!