Affinity is Joining the Canva Family Breaking News
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- Exciting news: Affinity is joining the Canva family! This groundbreaking merger brings together two industry leaders in design and creativity, empowering users with even more powerful tools and resources. With Affinity's cutting-edge features and Canva's user-friendly platform, creators can expect unparalleled innovation and creativity in their design projects. Stay tuned for updates will it be a welcome change or is there a subscription fee coming to Affinity Designer? #Affinity #Canva #Merger #Design #Creativity #BreakingNews
*This video is chewing on some pink snot.* The vast majority of users of Serif Affinity products are people who left Adobe products because there was a subscription payment model. It was a worthy alternative. And now this alternative has been sold to a large corporation that also applies a subscription payment model. You don't have to be very smart to prolong the trend and figure out where Affinity will go by joining those they've been fighting and competing with. This is the end of their independent policy. And Serif has betrayed one of its key competitive advantages. And by doing so, they essentially betrayed the trust of millions of their users. This is the end of the company's previous policy, which it could only pursue as an independent company.
Yeah I agree.
Honestly, as a Canva subscriber and an Affinity owner, I can't see how this change will improve the way I use both apps. I hope that the pricing for Affinity stays roughly the same and that it continues to be offered as a one-time buy. I'm trying to stay positive but it's hard to have faith.
Will not be touching the Affinity suite if it goes subscription… will have to live with the version 2.x versions… Sad day!
Ownership OR control over the means of production? Sounds like socialism.
Until the license servers are turned off.
@@SidjEOS Ya, there is that concern… sigh!
Me neither; they might put a bug in Affinty, so we can pay into the subscription. Well, back to Inkscape. lol
If you ever have to install it onto a new computer you will not be able to trust me...
Canva "casual design" that is an understatement, it's a pile of templates!
FYI The FAQ is PR Bull S!!!
No changes to our current pricing model PLANNED AT THIS TIME - this isn't within their control anymore.
This is a race to the subscription model, we have seen it all before.
Check the affinity forum, there are over 20 pages of users that hate this decision.
The owners of Affinity products can promise anything, it doesn't matter if it is in a video or an FAQ, but they can't make it happen, because they don't own the company anymore.
I wonder how many RUclips Affinity channels will try to spin this as a positive?
Several. Because toxic positivity runs everything. I’m learning how to navigate Adobe Fresco and headed back to Adobe. Affinity removed our direct link to one of the free stock photos we had. And left us with the Canva owned pexel and pixabay. And no wonder my apps have been extra crassly lately. I am beyond annoyed.
Check the comments under the ceo's video on their youtube channel... everyone is hating their decision.
Not thrilled but I am prepared to take a wait and see approach.
Money, money, money, it's a rich man's world.
Yup! Castle's and yachts will always beat out quality software, unfortunately!
I’m looking forward to running back to Adobe. I do not trust Canva. And now affinity is on the list of companies (well not that it matters, they don’t exist).
But why would we need Canva when we have Affinity Designer? How come Affinity did not say no? We are not for sale.
That’s what I don’t understand. The only thing Canva COULD bring to Canva is AI implementation, which affinity lacks to be honest (mostly affinity photo tho, not designer). Which would put even less interest in Canva’s own software… so I don’t understand this move.
But if Affinity keeps the Affinity branding , pricing, and improves its development thanks to canva’s money, then it’s fine. But that’s very wierd. But it has happen as well, sometimes acquisitions are well done. But we know Canva as well… I fear they focus development on mobile etc (which we don’t need more than the iPad app for professional work).
My heart completely sank yesterday when I heard this news. I really hope you’re right that subscription will creep in gradually for things like AI capability only (which doesn’t interest me). Worst case scenario is the subscription model is across the board but it would be a massive PR mistake for them and is already alienating its loyal customer base. Not that this ever stopped Adobe!
I would not pay for a subscription
06:20 That's WHY they didn't implement smart selection / background remover A.I tools in Affinity... I never understood why they didn't want to implement this tool, but now everything is clear : it will be a paid add-on / subscription feature.
And it will work... the amount of time gained by one click selection over a tedious (and sometimes outright not working) refine selection will justify the purchase (well, more like a rent, right ?) for lots of users.
And I won't be part of it.
This!
Current model? But they intend to charge us or make us buy a subscription with little add ons or get pro which most of us cannot afford😢 so if we are without means we truly will have no real options for a software that will allow us to stand along side creators/designers with the most ability to afford pretty much any pricing… 😢😢😢😢😢
TBH, I trust Canva as far as I can throw them. I would bet money that V3 of Affinity will be subscription. Might as well go back to Adobe.
Kru. I love your optimism but as you say, "best case scenario".
A monthly fee is out of the question for me. There are months i don't use Affinity at all and i'm not going through the stupid subscribe/unsubscribe to save a couple of bucks. Yet that is what a sub-model is aiming at.
On the plus side: Canva is still privately held, while being funded by investors. So for now it doesn't appear they were just after another cash cow to milk until dry, but rather extend their services. I'm reserved optimistic this isn't the end of Affinity software.
If Affinity goes subscription, it will be the end of it.
I bought into Affinity because they were independent, British and offered me something at a price level I could afford. Luckily I have the level of software I need in version 1 if needed. Likewise I can go back to Open Source. This sell out by Affinity is not good for the industry and certainly not good for consumers.
What you say makes a lot of sense. Thanks for talking me off the ledge with how I was thinking before watching your video.
All he did was hand you a DEFECTIVE parachute...
I have to admit, that's a lot of speculation, some of which may not be far off. I feel like a kid waiting in the principal's office for my fate.
*I will not pay subscription*
Subscription is so costly for us in South Africa with our weak exchange rate! Will have to wait to see.....
Substance Painter and Substance Designer all over again!...
Affordable, PROFESSIONAL SOFTWARE, developed by a wonderfully intelligent team - for an excellent price!
... Bought out by Adobe!
...Guess what it's a SUBSCRIPTION PAYMENT MODEL now...
Good balanced overview Mark...
Does Canva already have some of the Photoshop AI selection tools?
There are "currently" no planned changes to their pricing model. The word currently is important, sadly.
If we can’t afford a yearly fee how they think we can pay MORE per Month instead of cheaper monthly and come out ahead
It's not about affording it; I don't want any more bills. Marvelous Designer did the same thing, but nope, not doing it. If we keep it up, we will be paying thousands every year.
@@GRACFUL1Exactly! This won't stop itself greed is always about more, never less. Greed is one of the biggest problems we have as humanity.
@@GRACFUL1 I like many cannot afford more. Already long saved to buy first Adobe, then Affinity… more, more, more then even more $$$$$
I would love to have the easy background removal etc Canva offers available in Affinity. As long as it is substantially less than the Canva Pro subscription, I will be fine with it. I was even considering subscribing to Canva to save me time learning and implementing tedious background removal skills and steps in Affinity after/when/if my KDP books start increasing income to cover the cost. I am 62 years old. All this sturm and drang (literally 'storm and stress' ) over the what ifs is a waste of energy and emotion, IMO. What will be, will be, and there is no benefit to trying to decide what to do until we know what our choices are.
Me also, I do not see it too critical, I miss an imprint of canva though, what kind of company is it, shareholder based or not? What they offer is really huge and they need Affinity for sure because it lacks of templatefree stuff. So let's see and work even harder 😃
I DON’T KNOW WHY
I hope you’re right when you say that canvas pro users would just have access to affinity products. I wouldn’t mind that. As you say, if it brings more light on Affinity that’s nice.
I just don’t want Canva to intervene in anything on the Affinity program. That’s not their target, that’s not their sector initially so they don’t know much about what we want and need. I also hope they will at least bring their bigger AI R&D to Affinity (mostly for Affinity Photo, but included on the initial price). If they make AI paid, it better be industry leading. Which is already not at all the case on Canva…. (That’s nice but not enough for professionals) 😓
So yeah. I’m still very concerned for now. But we’ll see… I’ll stay on V2 for a while if they change anything.
For your final question, no. I don’t want to pay for Canva. I don’t need that program, it has nothing I need when I already have a professional software. And no I won’t pay any subscription for basic AI tools that could be done in local (Da Vinci does it with VIDEO, so don’t tell me they can’t do basic AI work like background removal etc in local). Plus if the basic AI work is made on servers, then we need an internet access. I often work outdoor on my MacBook so that’s a big no for me.
Lastly what I hope they’ll do, is the possibility for us to export our affinity designs to a Canva template. That would be excellent for the clients who need templates but don’t feel ready to work on an app more complex than Canva. But the programs are so different that I’m not sure they could do that.
I completely agree! I never use Canva and will not pay for Canva pro and have to pay extra to keep getting updates and new features for all my affinity softwares I’ve been using. I never feel like I need canva for anything to be honest.
Canva isn’t going to kill the Affinity apps. At least not on purpose. Affinity’s apps don’t compete with Canva so clearly they want to branch out into the professional space.
Besides the fear of forcing a subscription model on us, most professional designers find Canva’s template business model distasteful. Most of us have spent years, sweat, and money to hone our skills and be good at what we do. Canva? Don’t hire a professional, here just use a template, it’ll be okay. 😒
But we must admit that the near future will be the world of AI design（includes generating templates by few words in seconds）
I expect to see more designs like the Willy wonka debacle. But with a Canva twist.
Absolutely. I don't disagree with you. The genie is out of the bottle and there is no putting it back. And all AI is doing is sampling the work of real creatives with real talents and kicking back something like it. AI couldn't do what it does without the talent, blood and sweat of the designers and creative professionals that it's "stealing" from.
Putting AI aside, my point is, many creative professionals don't have warm and fuzzy feelings toward Canva's "Here use a template" business model. I have been a working designer / Illustrator / Educator for nearly 40 years, and outside of a handful of clients who understand what we do, it has been a constant battle for respect. Canva, sites like Fiver do not help. Logo "contests" are a joke and devalue what we as creatives do. Logo "contests" have always frustrated me. When was the last time electricians or plumbers were expected to come in and work for free and if the client liked what they did, they just might get paid. (A big part of the blame goes to designers who fall for this scam.) We have people expect us to work for free, saying it will be "good for your portfolio", or "do this for free and there will be more work down the road".
Sometimes what we as creatives do, might look easy, but it only looks easy because we have spent, years, blood and sweat, and hard earned money, honing our craft to be good at what we do. This has been a life-long battle for designers, illustrators, and photographers.
Essentially this is a long rant explaining why business models like Canva's don't give creative professionals warm and fuzzy feelings. They will need to win many of us over. I like Affinity's software, I just hope Canva doesn't crap the bed.@@ounasi
Of course, many designers share a basic pursuit and professional knowledge. As a designer with 20 years of experience, I believe that respect for the industry is not the issue. It's like the transition from film to digital - the battle is already underway, and we can't stop progress. Holding onto strong idealistic position is no longer a realistic option. The real issue is the epistemological determinism of the will. The terms 'photographers' and 'philosophers' will always be a minority in the fields of photography and philosophy. I believe that in the near future, designers will also become a minority in the field of design. This is because only a few individuals truly seek to understand and excel in these areas. Orthodox, collegiate designers should have a strong distaste for the canvas business model（like someone calling it ‘bullshit’）, but on the premise of benefit theory, this distaste seems to be negligible in the context of the broader need for it, and in fact, Midjourney led to a major redundancy at our design business partner company, which I'm sure will be the norm from here on out.@@billbowman8747
There is no question that AI has turned a lot of industries on their ear. (just ask the screenwriters guild) As I previously said, the genie is out of the bottle and there is no putting it back. I accept that. The "just use this template" mentality or "I'll just use AI rather that pay a real person" makes me sad. It makes me worry for the future of all of my students. I give a shit about them.
In any case, we have gone down a long and complicated path here but rest assure, I see both sides, I'm just not thrilled with the direction things are heading.
Back to the acquisition of Affinity by Canva, I would have been much more excited if they were acquired by say… Figma. I could really get behind that! Since Adobe's acquisition of Figma fell through, wouldn't a Figma-Affinity 1-2 punch have been awesome!
Am I willing to give Canva a chance? Yes.
Am I optimistic that this deal will be good for consumers and the creative industry as a whole? Not so much, but I hope so. Then again, I have been wrong before, just ask my ex-wife! @@ounasi
I will stick with old Gimp.
ohh mi God.......noooooooo!
Canva is a dumbed down design app for casual users. I know - I have to sort out the print ready (ha ha) files supplied for printing. Affinity should have stayed with the loyal designer community.
It was just too good to last. If Affinity turns entirely into another $50+/month subscription plan, I will turn into pirate. Simple as.
If Canva changes to a subscription system, I'll go to Adobe and not even look at Canva.
The most disappointing computer news this year. Corporate buy/sell - will not end well for the customer
Ah i think everything will be ok based on the most recent email they sent.
They know their customer base.
They know exactly why we all left Adobe.
I don't think they're stupid enough to screw over every single customer who made the switch from a subscription based model to their lifetime license model.
Its literally what distinguishes them from Adobe.
If they offer the same subscription model, they would have no advantage over Adobe anymore.
Money rules
@@richardjames3022 this is true
It's a great set of tools and a shame that it was bought out, but the video is right it's possible the AI canva elements will need a subscription.
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They could at least try offer an option or a plugin which requires a subscription. How successful the sub based option/plugin, depends on what's on offer
Your copy for your video is basically Canva's marketing (copy and pasted). And, you ended this video by asking, again, THREE times, and I am paraphrasing you here, "Will you be alright with paying for additional features in the Canva/Affinity merger." This video has the tone of a Canva marketing focus group, by you asking, over and over, how your subscribers here feel about paid subscription features in Affinity. Did they (Canva) pay you to do this video? UNsubscribed!
We may not like it, but thats the direction all software developer will have to go sooner or later. It is not possible to run that kind of business just with a new paid update every few years. What features are left to implement in affinity 3, that people will pay another hundret Dollar for? Maybe Ki... but then? The employers want to be paid every month. So in the long run, there will be no other way than implementing a subscription model. Or we just work permanently with old or free software like Gimp or scribus and accept all the limitations they have.