Thank you for the video. Slava Ukraine ! I love how your able to interpret data and design a process to accomplish a specific task of a very complicated set of tasks where each task is dependent on the previous outcome in order to make a very precise movements in three planes.
Thank you kindly for sharing, Gena 💖🙏💖 Similair fixtures have been used and are in use all over West of Europe. You can still find them in older used machine shops and shops that renews machines, like for example, lathes, mills and surface grinders. Cheers from Sweden ☕🥰🍰🇸🇪💞🇺🇦
Hello! The Soviet Union's industry was built on the basis of Western industry, and all its components were copied from Western ones. But I don't see these components for sale on eBay, and I can't understand why they are not there. In addition, I could not find Western analogues. Maybe someone can help me figure this out? Maybe give me a link to information.
@@ВалерийП-щ8м Нет, не благодаря СССР, как раз вопреки СССР. Вполне могу обосновать это мое утверждение, но лучше просто поверьте на слово, так значительно короче.
Hi, w.r.t your question about universal jig components, no, they don't exist in the west. The nearest you will find are angle plates, vee blocks and 1 2 3 blocks. Beyond that people use one off bespoke jigs. thanks for another interesting video. Cheers, Peter.
Hello Peter! Oh, that's amazing to me! We have a lot of them, very different! They are made very precisely, and hardened by case hardening. Then I will make a separate video about them for Western viewers.
I wondered whether there could be rather small high points that influence the apparent angle made by the Vee...if so, I guess that you will see those high points when you apply the "paint" for scraping? I was thinking, watching you move the prism, that it could be feasible to use a magnet on each end, on the side being measured, the magnet being spaced about 0,1 mm from the rail surface being measured, so that you wouldn't need to use a feeler gauge on the opposite side?
It may help you to research a King way level system. It was invented by a man named Richard King. In the west, we call what you're referring to as guide rails as ways. His tool is used when scraping guide rails to ensure they are parallel and co-planer with each other. You can use a flat edge or an autocolimator to check flatness, but you must ensure both rails are on the same plane.
Hello! It's good that you suggested that in the West the name "path" is accepted. I am not very familiar with the popular Western followers of scraping, and I learned about Richard King only a few years ago. By that time, I already had the qualifications fully sufficient to create the geometry of grinding, milling, turning and similar machines. This qualification was based on practical work skills, logical reasoning and general theoretical information from various sources, but since I am in the post-Soviet space, sources from this same space dominated. In addition, for some time I worked at a huge plant that manufactured machine tools, and was familiar with all the production processes, in general terms. It so happened that, unfortunately, I am not familiar with the activities of Richard King. But in relation to the technology of machine repair, all further actions are completely known to me, and I will not make mistakes. Indeed, to form the second "way" I will use a precision bubble level on a special stand, due to such control I will ensure their parallelism with sufficient accuracy. This second "way", since it is flat, and not V-like, I can control only with a level and straight edge. This will be shown in the next videos.
Maybe I didn't understand exactly, but it seems to me that you are talking about the Biax machine? I don't have this electric machine. There are no analogues made in the USSR, and the original is very expensive. But one of my viewers has already sent me such a machine by parcel, now it is on its way. So I will get to know it soon.
It would help to know how deep a scrape is exactly. Then you could control removal very reliably. Never settle until every deviant micron is eliminated!
I haven't see any Universal Jig Components in the US. I have looked on eBay and didn't find any. For the most part, custom jigs are used for production. I would love to have a set of these; what would be the search term? Thank you for the great video!
Hi! I've already figured it out a bit. Search query - Modular fixturing . There are offers, but very few. I found out that sending such a parcel from Ukraine to the USA weighing 30 kilograms costs about 200 dollars. If you want to choose a USP set for your tasks, write to me by email. I will offer components in any configuration at a good price. I can send a full catalog of components.
Very interesting, but to be honest, I don't understand all of the procedures. I have done some scraping on a knee mill (Bridgeport), and I am interested in procedures for scraping long slideways. Those longer than available straightedges. I renovate machines as a hobby and can't afford all of the tools used in scraping. I currently have a 250mm shop made precision level, a 450mm x 600mm granite surface plate, and a 600mm shop made straight edge. Thank you for your video. The graphics a good and very helpful. Regards.
This is brilliant stuff. Good work! I hope Ukraine remains free and you can bring this expertise to others. We have lost much of it in Europe. Slava Ukraini!
Isn't the position of the top edge of the V-shape not relevant? The top flat surface isn't ground or scraped to the shape you are now creating. You can check this to your collimator references. If you scaped deeper in one spot than another, the width of the scraped surface will be wider. The level will be your best reference to the position of the angles. It is still impressive how you are doing this. I understand the geometry and relative angles but I can not scrape a machine like that while also making the tools to do so.I will need to see more now... Subscribed😊 *Edit ... I guess the translation messes with mind. I misunderstood your part about the top edge. Never mind😅 job well done👍
The tools you mentioned are really nice, with lots of options to construct accurate supports or references. I think here in the west we use more simple blocks and angles but in general they have the same functions. To me they seem to look more like older style (ridged/fixed) fixture blocks, modern style is usually adjustable but also less ridged. In old shops you will find a collection of shop made blocks and fixtures but not as many and not to a universal standard. Your sets look like a complete catalogue of fixtures, clamps and blocks, real craftsman tools. I guess here we sooner buy something than make it for saving time and space.
I have not yet found a Western analogue of such universal technological fasteners. In the USSR they were called universal assembly devices. There is a catalog of these devices. It lists several hundred components of various purposes and configurations.
In this linear motion guide restoration I control, with a fairly high accuracy, all the necessary geometry parameters. Therefore, everything should turn out well.
I've only seen Tool and Die makers with tooling similar to that. It was mostly made by the tool maker to meet his needs. Definitely not as universal as that looks. Not as common today with cnc machines either.
You seem to know what you’re doing. I would hire you. Only a few things I would’ve changed in your Calibration that may or may not have changed effect of accuracy. Also, have you tried grinding compound used in Valve work on Engine? After setup this could help more instead of all that scraping. 😅 Just a thought. Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge with me.😊
Hello! Lapping can achieve very high accuracy, but for this you need to have the appropriately shaped linear laps for these "VEIS". They are not so easy to make. But if I start this machine, I will be able to make a corresponding set of linear laps without any problems. Then we can follow your version. Only you will need to carefully remove the abrasive after finishing the lapping.
Thank you for the video. Slava Ukraine ! I love how your able to interpret data and design a process to accomplish a specific task of a very complicated set of tasks where each task is dependent on the previous outcome in order to make a very precise movements in three planes.
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Obrigado por essa super produção!
Esse canal merece milhões de inscritos!
Obrigado pela dedicação.
Since you have already subscribed to my channel, you have already somewhat fulfilled the million forecast! Thank you!
@@gena_bazarko não se inscrever no seu canal é um pecado!
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Thank you kindly for sharing, Gena 💖🙏💖
Similair fixtures have been used and are in use all over West of Europe.
You can still find them in older used machine shops and shops that renews machines, like for example, lathes, mills and surface grinders.
Cheers from Sweden ☕🥰🍰🇸🇪💞🇺🇦
Hello! The Soviet Union's industry was built on the basis of Western industry, and all its components were copied from Western ones. But I don't see these components for sale on eBay, and I can't understand why they are not there. In addition, I could not find Western analogues. Maybe someone can help me figure this out? Maybe give me a link to information.
он обливает грязью Советский Союз)) но забыл что то что он умеет это благодаря ссср. )))))
@@ВалерийП-щ8м Нет, не благодаря СССР, как раз вопреки СССР. Вполне могу обосновать это мое утверждение, но лучше просто поверьте на слово, так значительно короче.
This is quite amazing. I have to do this with my old lathe bed. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for continuing to share your great work, you are an inspiration!
Hi, w.r.t your question about universal jig components, no, they don't exist in the west. The nearest you will find are angle plates, vee blocks and 1 2 3 blocks. Beyond that people use one off bespoke jigs.
thanks for another interesting video. Cheers, Peter.
Hello Peter! Oh, that's amazing to me! We have a lot of them, very different! They are made very precisely, and hardened by case hardening. Then I will make a separate video about them for Western viewers.
@@gena_bazarko please will be appreciated! i also didnt find information! (wich are the native lenguage words for that components?)
thanks
@@felipeolivo9937In the post-Soviet space, this was called Universal Assemblies. I already found out that in the West- Modular fixturing.
Great stuff Gena.
Good work Gena.
I've got a jig plate just like the one with 4x8 squares seen around 8:28. Bought from a German seller, but probably old.
I wondered whether there could be rather small high points that influence the apparent angle made by the Vee...if so, I guess that you will see those high points when you apply the "paint" for scraping?
I was thinking, watching you move the prism, that it could be feasible to use a magnet on each end, on the side being measured, the magnet being spaced about 0,1 mm from the rail surface being measured, so that you wouldn't need to use a feeler gauge on the opposite side?
Very informative! Thanks for sharing to us in the US of A !
It may help you to research a King way level system. It was invented by a man named Richard King. In the west, we call what you're referring to as guide rails as ways. His tool is used when scraping guide rails to ensure they are parallel and co-planer with each other. You can use a flat edge or an autocolimator to check flatness, but you must ensure both rails are on the same plane.
Hello! It's good that you suggested that in the West the name "path" is accepted. I am not very familiar with the popular Western followers of scraping, and I learned about Richard King only a few years ago. By that time, I already had the qualifications fully sufficient to create the geometry of grinding, milling, turning and similar machines. This qualification was based on practical work skills, logical reasoning and general theoretical information from various sources, but since I am in the post-Soviet space, sources from this same space dominated. In addition, for some time I worked at a huge plant that manufactured machine tools, and was familiar with all the production processes, in general terms. It so happened that, unfortunately, I am not familiar with the activities of Richard King.
But in relation to the technology of machine repair, all further actions are completely known to me, and I will not make mistakes. Indeed, to form the second "way" I will use a precision bubble level on a special stand, due to such control I will ensure their parallelism with sufficient accuracy. This second "way", since it is flat, and not V-like, I can control only with a level and straight edge. This will be shown in the next videos.
another wonderful class !!! , thank you best regards Steve
Another great video as always! Thank you for sharing your knowlege and all the best wishes to the people of Ukraine 🇺🇦🇺🇦👍
Awesome work with minimal tooling. Have you investigated the Kingway scraping fixture that is used here in the US?
Maybe I didn't understand exactly, but it seems to me that you are talking about the Biax machine? I don't have this electric machine. There are no analogues made in the USSR, and the original is very expensive. But one of my viewers has already sent me such a machine by parcel, now it is on its way. So I will get to know it soon.
@@gena_bazarkonot the bias machine but the fixture Richard King uses with a precision level to measure surfaces
It would help to know how deep a scrape is exactly. Then you could control removal very reliably. Never settle until every deviant micron is eliminated!
Very interesting! The animations you showed are very good, can I ask which software you use? Greetings from Denmark.
I haven't see any Universal Jig Components in the US. I have looked on eBay and didn't find any. For the most part, custom jigs are used for production. I would love to have a set of these; what would be the search term? Thank you for the great video!
Hi! I've already figured it out a bit. Search query - Modular fixturing . There are offers, but very few. I found out that sending such a parcel from Ukraine to the USA weighing 30 kilograms costs about 200 dollars. If you want to choose a USP set for your tasks, write to me by email. I will offer components in any configuration at a good price. I can send a full catalog of components.
@@gena_bazarko I just sent an email and look forward to your reply.
Very interesting, but to be honest, I don't understand all of the procedures. I have done some scraping on a knee mill (Bridgeport), and I am interested in procedures for scraping long slideways. Those longer than available straightedges. I renovate machines as a hobby and can't afford all of the tools used in scraping. I currently have a 250mm shop made precision level, a 450mm x 600mm granite surface plate, and a 600mm shop made straight edge. Thank you for your video. The graphics a good and very helpful. Regards.
Nice work!
GREAT WORK
This is brilliant stuff. Good work! I hope Ukraine remains free and you can bring this expertise to others. We have lost much of it in Europe. Slava Ukraini!
Isn't the position of the top edge of the V-shape not relevant? The top flat surface isn't ground or scraped to the shape you are now creating. You can check this to your collimator references.
If you scaped deeper in one spot than another, the width of the scraped surface will be wider. The level will be your best reference to the position of the angles.
It is still impressive how you are doing this. I understand the geometry and relative angles but I can not scrape a machine like that while also making the tools to do so.I will need to see more now...
Subscribed😊
*Edit ... I guess the translation messes with mind. I misunderstood your part about the top edge. Never mind😅 job well done👍
The tools you mentioned are really nice, with lots of options to construct accurate supports or references. I think here in the west we use more simple blocks and angles but in general they have the same functions. To me they seem to look more like older style (ridged/fixed) fixture blocks, modern style is usually adjustable but also less ridged. In old shops you will find a collection of shop made blocks and fixtures but not as many and not to a universal standard. Your sets look like a complete catalogue of fixtures, clamps and blocks, real craftsman tools. I guess here we sooner buy something than make it for saving time and space.
I have not yet found a Western analogue of such universal technological fasteners. In the USSR they were called universal assembly devices. There is a catalog of these devices. It lists several hundred components of various purposes and configurations.
In this linear motion guide restoration I control, with a fairly high accuracy, all the necessary geometry parameters. Therefore, everything should turn out well.
Thank you.
I've only seen Tool and Die makers with tooling similar to that. It was mostly made by the tool maker to meet his needs. Definitely not as universal as that looks. Not as common today with cnc machines either.
You seem to know what you’re doing. I would hire you. Only a few things I would’ve changed in your Calibration that may or may not have changed effect of accuracy. Also, have you tried grinding compound used in Valve work on Engine? After setup this could help more instead of all that scraping. 😅 Just a thought. Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge with me.😊
Hello! Lapping can achieve very high accuracy, but for this you need to have the appropriately shaped linear laps for these "VEIS". They are not so easy to make. But if I start this machine, I will be able to make a corresponding set of linear laps without any problems. Then we can follow your version. Only you will need to carefully remove the abrasive after finishing the lapping.
Chinese sold those thing