Zappa's Epic Response
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- Опубликовано: 29 янв 2012
- Frank Zappa's epic response to the tyrannical, repressed, uptight, angry little man that is John Lofton.
For some reason CNN bleeped out "ass." I guess they had different standards back then.
For the full debate, click the link below:
• Frank Zappa on Crossfire 
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Zappa summed it up so well: "What do you make of a society that is so primitive that it clings to the belief that certain words in its language are so powerful that they could corrupt you the moment you hear them?"
He also turned the argument around: "There are more love songs than anything else. If songs could make you do something, we'd all love one another."
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the n word
I would say some things, but I don't want RUclips to delete another one of my accounts.
what did they know about words and who did they learn what they knew from?
What do they know about partying? Or anything else?
Zappa's music doesn't glorify Satanism or incest, although it does satirize it, which is the opposite of glorifying it.
Yeah, Lofton is just mad because he's too dumb to get the joke.
I don’t think some of these moral outrage folk process satire well.
literally! lmao
People like Lofton don't know how to read sarcasm. That's why they are so angry. They can't laugh with that kind of jokes.
Part of what makes satire so hysterical is the amount people that don't seem to be able to detect satire.
The argument over the actual words themselves is such nonsense. Like most things in life, context matters. It's very easy to use bad words in a good way, and good words in a bad way.
"Sexually frustrated old man in suit gets angry with rock star who had lots of hot women"
Tell Frank he's a rock star in his face. Sure he'd be delighted.
comfibold. Ha,Ha!
Frank Zappa isn't a rock star, and he would agree with that statement
lol, Zappa a rockstar and with hot women? he'd murder you if he was still around.
I don't think he had enough time for women ... Too busy writing songs
why is that guy so angry about a guy just doing some music?
Being angry for Jesus :-)
Honeysucklebommie Yeah, somebody gotta be angry for Jesus, right?
I think he's terrified that God will actually be pissed at him if he stands idly by as people flaunt their creativity and independent thought-- I mean, their sins.
I guess it hurts when he pees.
Why is he so obsessed with incest, also? He brought it up like 10 times...
'I love it when you froth like that'. That's the best.
Or kiss my ass.LOL
"C'mon, let's froth!"
John Lofton wasn't into spanking, only getting spanked.
You owe me a coffee for the one I spit out laughing!
Tate Gibbs Right
Frank Zappa is a very naughty boy, but I like him.
He got knocked a million times on the head if you ask me!
+Herman Ingram got a source for that please?
He was just being frank😉
frankly yes...
*pun intended
Thank you for your frankness!
One of my favorite Zappa comments was when his music was criticized, he replied that he knew it sucked but people keep buying it so he keeps making it. That shut the critic up. Love ya Zapdude, R.I.P.
That wasn't an epic response. That man didn't deserve an epic response! Kudos to Zappa for knowing when to conserve his energy.
Fucking right.
If you listen to the whole interview, Zappa has more of a chance to explain his views without that little pipsqueak spitting all over it.
what???
There comes a time in every, yes EVERY argument where the only logical response of a sentient human being is "Kiss My Ass" or the more current "Fuck Off", "Fuck you", "Fuck this" or the ultimate - "GET FUCKED" - Frank was a giant intellect, something that has never yet been tried in US Government circles!
i would have to agree. the best thing about this is Frank displayed the best way to handle this in that he didn't just simply say fuck you at first but he crushed him by essentially trolling the idiot arguing with him while also disproving anything he said with logic and reason. Frank Zappa was the fuckin boss.
It's after he called Frank an idiot that Frank obviously decided "fuck it". Frank seemed willing to have a civil, if heated discourse, but when the guy trying to bait you abandons even that pretense, well, there's no point in pretending that you're having a meaningful exchange of opinions.
I actually found it funniest when he said ''Absolutely. Yeah, I believe it'' Lmao. The way he said it. You could almost see the wheels turning ''this guy's an idiot I might as well troll him.''
I don't think he was trolling. That was exactly what the founding fathers had in mind.
I think that was obviously sarcasm. Listen to HOW he says it.
He was for 100% sure not being sarcastic.
why the hell would zappa be sarcastic here? that would defeat his entire point. friggin morons, he means what he says.
he was NOT trolling
The First Amendment in Lofton Land: "all citizens shall have the freedom to say whatever the freak they want, provided I approve."
The answer to the question is yes. The point of free speech is to protect unpopular expression, for socially accepted sentiments do not need defending.
Absolute brilliance. Concision exemplified..
I agree, but the idea is not aging any better than this comment unfortunately.
This may be the best explanation of the first amendment I've ever heard
@@classixdrummer I love Bobby brown goes down as much as the next person but I’m so tired of seeing boomers say their freedom of speech is being taken away from them, it’s not, there aren’t cops arresting you, you’re getting pressed about shit that little white girls say on Twitter
@@DanceOfTheDawn5963 not on America because the constitution probably says so, but the same ideology that these "little white girls" push on Twitter is being exported to the rest of the world. Seriously, you're fucking up Brazil for example, we just had a comedian being seriously sued and going to court because of a joke about transgender people, ignoring that he had already had brought a transgender person to his program to talk about her issues.
Your mistake is to think that nothing's gonna come out of these "white girls on Twitter" (who by the way are getting bigger as a group, as time goes on more and more people are acting like them IN THE REAL WORLD), but when the media and the public opinion shifts to their side you'll see that they're not so powerless and they're hungry for revenge on whatever the hell they think deserves it.
Also, isn't the media insane? Zappa himself would never have imagined it, but everything is left wing nowadays. The only American exception as far as I know is Fox News and it's also crazy. Everything is more politicized online and politics have never been so divisive. Do you really think that's healthy? Zappa encouraged his audience to vote even though he knew they were gonna vote for people he disdained. Nowadays he would be boycotted, cancelled or something, or at least mocked for being a "practical conservative". What happened to agree to disagree?
The great ones that spoke the truth are all gone, but their powerful messages still exist:
Frank Zappa
George Carlin
Bill Hicks
John Lennon
Tupac Shakur
Hunter S. Thompson
Rest in Peace.
you got to add Lou Reed
Lou
joe murphy Lol, considering Lou hated Frank and viceversa...
I would ad Stanley Kubrick to that list
Lenny Bruce.
I love Frank Zappa. Intelligent man, excellent musician, prolific composer.
You're 1000% RIGHT,FRANK ZAPPA was the best.
And that's about as animated as you will ever see Zappa. He was so cool and so laid back he didn't have to make his point with anger. He steered the conversation in a way that allowed the other side to expose their own absurdity. THAT was why he was Frank Zappa.
Seems to me Frank was laying out a case for the 1st amendment and at the same time saying Fuck You to Political Correctness. Say what you mean and mean what you say. RIP Frank for your brilliance, talent and logic are missed.
saintsluggo amen to that.
Political Correctness and freedom of speech are not really related topics. No one who is mostly just asking people to not use slurs and other offensive terms for other people (most of what Political Correctness actually is) is trying to get the government to make saying those things illegal. The first ammendment does protect your ability to say what you want in terms of not being punished for it by government, but it doesn't protect you from any and all consequences of what you say.
Josh Porter Yes, "no one" does that.....uh, except the guy in the video you just watched, ironically..
Rodzilla I didn't realize I sad all that. ...I just saw a guy who (dude in this vid) who seems to want people to say things "a certain way" of which he approves, and I'm sure he'd gladly make his opinion(s) law if he could.
Someone just said _that doesn't happen,_ -I think it does, so I commented.
I don't know what straw men or the name of the guy in this video has to do with anything I said.
And as for people "leaning against" Americans who dare to speak their mind (i.e. exercise their First Amendment rights), I'm against those anti-American thugs.
I'll fight against any person, who fights against any other person, for exercising their right to free speech. I really don't care who says what, or who's on what side of any given argument. Just show me the anti-Constitution thug who threatens to dole out some mafia-style retribution against someone for daring to speak freely, ...and I just might target that lawless thug with some thuggishness of my own.
Sounds like your plan is to "do things" against Americans who speak freely against you or your core values. So my plan is to "do things" against _people like you,_ who threaten people for daring to speak freely.
'Straw man' is a term used by knobs at the moment. It's one of these expressions that happen in offices throughout the world, bit like, 'let's take this offline' when you are in a meeting. For fucks sake. Or, how about 'Drill down', or 'Blue Sky thinking'. Christ Almighty on a sidecar!
A 'Straw Man' is a hypothetical construct, in which you are invited to imagine a scenario, and how you would deal with that situation under various different stress models. You would of course come up with a few answers and each one would be scrutinised and one by one rejected until either a favourable outcome is found, or the straw man gets burned. In other words, how most folks problem solve every day of their lives in seconds without ever having been in a meeting full of knobs.
Most people that use phrases like this just parrot their peers as saying something catchy like this in the office environment means some kind of acceptance, i.e. you are part of the great hunt, even if you don't actually know what the rest of the mad bastards are on about.
Be aware of those particularly mad bastards who propose" building a straw man" then tag on the monstrous "and kicking it about".
Best way to deal with them is to pretend to be interested in what they say by agreeing with them, 'ya' ya' 'I hear you' 'ya' while herding them toward an empty lift shaft.
Frank Zappa was a genius. I was born in 1985 and I did not learn of Zappa or his large output (many of which I now own and enjoy) until I was 15 or 16. My father and stepmother took my Zappa and Floyd albums away when I moved in with them in 2000. I knew then that I was on to something...I was getting closer to something, something that did not want to be discovered by me. You know James Bond is near the archvillain's headquarters when there are a lot of henchmen after him. I knew that I was nearing my calling back then when my parents took my albums away. Today, at almost 29 years old, I am a writer and standup comedian from Jersey. I know who I am because of the music of Zappa, or Floyd, or Crimson, etc.
I was introduced to his work at a very early age, 8 years old, by my older brother...it's the only musical taste we share! I was hugely lucky to have a music teacher at high school who was a massive fan of Frank and also The Mothers and encouraged us all to explore music and indulge ourselves. I'm eternally grateful to him! Thanks to him, I have a massive range of tastes in music, everything from stuff like Frank, classical, metal, right through to modern electronic music, stuff like Drum and Bass and Techno. But Frank is, by far, my favourite musician. Great music, great humour and far reaching social commentary. I miss him so much.
What the fuck are you talking about? 😂
James Bond is a Pansy and Herve Villechaize kicked his ass and screwed his old lady. Herve forever
That was either a shitty looking rug on John Lofton's head, or a bad comb-over.
Faustus A fucking cat
loool
How do you expect someone to take you seriously when you're breathing down their neck, demanding they answer your question and interrupting them before they finish it?
"I love it when you froth like that." Priceless!
joe pyne: your long hair makes you a woman
Frank Zappa: your wooden leg makes you a table
AWESOME! Joe was real sensitive about his wooden leg.
Lmao 🤣
Yes!!!!
Zap might as well been arguing with a bunch of drunks.
He probably was himself, How else would you explain his childish response?
MP Pk
naaa, he's a chain smoker, he tried being a drunk, didn't like it, stuck to chain smoking
MP Pk Zappa was a teetotaler basically.
Field Marshal Fry You're talking about the Miller Lite episode after he got out of jail?
hey cme dwon tyhe god amongs man MP Pk i am licking yor rymen from a spewing cratwheel Of SDesotyvbh
At 1:02 is the proof that even the makers of the show knew that people in front of the TV would go "Who the fuck is that clown sitting next to Zappa?"
People remember Frank Zappa.Who remembers John Lofton ?
This entire interview is one of the finest pieces of televised goodness of all time.
I love it when you froth like that hahahaha
Well, wouldn't you know... CNN sucked back then too.
Don Grantham ...has there been anytime when it hasn't?
Fuck that, this was amazing. And you could tell the hosts couldn't stand Lofton either. If CNN was still airing stuff like this, I'd order cable.
Don Grantham yeah, before Roger Ailes emerged fully formed from the sweaty, pulsating alien nutsuck of the hermaphroditic reptilian race of stink-mutants that barf their poison continuously into the gaping anus of America a.k.a. The Republican Party, CNN was indeed the worst place to get your news.
Yes they did and still do even more.
Don Grantham Cable news is garbage IMO
That very little smile of satisfaction on Zappa's face at 1:17 is priceless. I rolled on the floor laughing at his answer :D
One does not simply call FZ an idiot...
Lets see John play the Bicycle LOL
V ... In his autobiography, FZ refers to the TED KOPPEL METHOD of telling someone they’re stupid - by stating, “Now, Mister (insert name here), you’re an intelligent man, ...(add question here)... “ Anyone, said FZ, that is told byTed Koppel, “Now, you’re an intelligent man,” is certainly being told how stupid he is.
@@christineayres5339 Amen, Sister!
@@TheSWolfe thanks hun 🙏
@@christineayres5339 great one lmao 🤣
damn Frank, we miss you so much.
you were one of the seriously rare people who actually was one of a kind.
there won't be anyone like you, for a long time, if not ever.
0:30 The Founding Fuckers
I think it's very cool that Zappa even agreed to go on a show like this. A lot of musicians wouldn't even come near an environment like that. He was a fish out of water there. It appeared to be a closed minded environment but he wasn't intimidated at all. I know I might catch some hell from the most loyal Zappa fans, but you know who else always agreed to these types of interviews? Marilyn Manson. He went into hornet's nests (especially on O'Reilly's show) numerous times and wasn't intimidated.
and JUST like zappa, marilyn is just ON POINT with all of his responses.
It immediately made me think of Manson after Columbine. It just depends on which decade you were old enough to watch and understand something like this onTV, 80s or 90s.
Freedom of speech applies to everything..not just what YOU want to hear..how do these people not understand this??
I can't believe it's been 20 years since he passed. We miss you frank!!!
Not a huge fan of his music but my god he was such a funny and smart man.
His music ranged over a very wide scale and really requires repeated listens to appreciate. "Call any vegetable and the chances are good the vegetable will respond to you." He was vegan before it was cool.
Guy Fieri How can you not like 'Ms. Pinky' after a fat one?
Listen to Joe's Garage all the way through...that album dissects the music industry and American culture in a savage fashion! A work of art...
Transylvania Boogie
I love how they resorted to name-calling like the children they are.
R.I.P. Frank Zappa 🙏❤️
Zappa was the Man
the constitution says you can say whatever you want, unless we dont like it.
First concert I ever went to was Frank Zappa 1971, I was 17. It was at the Indiana State Fair in the sheep pavilion. Frank came onstage (after Lee Michaels and It's a Beautiful Day) and asked the crowd if we were all sheep. What a show he played Call Any Vegetable and Brown Shoes Don't Make It, all the classics.
A real genius although in later years I appreciated his understanding of history and politics more than his music which became more and more technical and less and less interesting. He was playing to himself and not his audience.
This is beautiful FZ. Frank died a self-made multimillionaire where as this fool is in the dustbin of history remembered only for taking Frank's intellectual beating on the tube in front of millions, well maybe a few thousand; it was Crossfire after all, another deposit in the dustbin. Still my favorite FZ memory is when he beat Tipper Gore like a rented mule on Nightline over the Constitution which he had actually read unlike Tipper.
This is from a time when news programs broke from reporting the news to real gloves off debates about topics in the news...not attempt to push an agenda. Man those were the days.
I just love it when that Lofton guy raves on about "SATANIZZUM". Ooh, so scared of imaginary monsters, aren't we!
Fox, the early years.
He's joking about it, saying that it's like Fox News. Pretty sure he already knew it was CNN.
cheers scott :)
Ian Porter actually "dems " and Republicans are one in the same.
Bryan "Dumb all Over..."
Bryan Lafontaine No they're not, Third party dipshit
Why doesn't the media oppose the hate and violence in Rap Music?
SquareOne
Not nearly as vocally as Zappa, Marilyn Manson and others.
Yes......... They do.
Free speech doesn't mean free of consequences "dimwit". A lot of musicians are unfortunate enough to have their talents ridiculed because some people can be close minded.
*****
Was all of that directed at me? I don't think I deserved that.
No. It was directed at Blaire.
You're sadly missed Frank, hugely influenced my growing up am delighted to say
Many comments to respond to: 1. Hellfire Club was not one specific place, more of a high society, hedonistic "gentleman's club" who met at various places. 2. Their so called Satanism was more of a mockery of various religious and especially pagan practices. It was an excuse to behave like pagans; drinking, prostitutes, debauchery and orgy-like activities. Think more of a Playboy Mansion with mock religious services, rather than a Church of Satan type of crowd. 3. Ben Franklin was an occasional attendee of these clubs, not an actual member. 4. Frank Zappa is considered by many to be "A Musician's Musician." You don't have to be a musician to appreciate his music, but it certainly helps one understand what he was doing. I've met dozens of Rock fans who hate Zappa. But, I've never met an actual practicing Rock musician who hated Zappa. They might have said he wasn't to their taste, but they usually admired him as a musician and composer
“I got a napkin for you when you drool.” Priceless
Frank Zappa - Musical genius and not for his crazy lyrics but his many and varied time signatures, the fact he could write for percussion as well as guitar, the black page, and his orchestral arrangements. He was a modern day composer. He understood music and chose the best players for those positions. I mean just look at his drummers Vinnie C and Terry Bozzio to name just a couple.
Frank, I wish you were still with us. Partly just by the way you dealt with these losers.
Zappa is a legend
Gladly ! You provide the time machine to take us back 30 years to my 25 yr old self. Just around the time I was going to see Zappa perform at the London Hammersmith Odeon in fact ! Two nights of musical brilliance which made it the 4th and 5th time I'd seen FZ perform live up 'til that point !
man I love Frank Zappa STILL
Wow. Frank really nailed it in this interview. If it was me I would have just answered the questions, but he responded with indignant truth!
Who was on synthesizer for this show? (The short beeps towards the end.)
Been a Zappa fan since 1982.
John Lofton obviously never once listened to Zappa's music, nor would he have understand the reason for the profundity of his lyrics.
Thanks for posting.
Good to know youngins are keeping Zappa's genius alive.
"There are more love songs than anything else. If songs could make you do something we'd all love one another." --Frank Zappa
You know whose name is remembered....and it's not Fatty what's-his-name. It's Frank Zappa...Eat THAT, Suzie Cream cheese.
That's probably as close as I've seen Frank come to committing murder (he was always cool). And "frankly", if he had, I wouldn't have blamed him.
There's only so much intellectual patience you can show when faced with personal insults in public.
I know. That interviewer was a total A-hole.
Sam Houston
Of course I'm for freedom of speech.
And so was Frank Zappa.
I'm just saying that Frank lost his cool for a split second here, which he NEVER did.
And I can't say I blame him.
Just because people should be able to say what they want, doesn't mean that they can't be dicks.
Sam Houston
It was meant as a figure of speech and not to be taken literally.
A bit strong, perhaps, but that's freedom of speech for you.
Sam Houston
No problem. It's easier to understand others if you can hear their voice.
I love how Lofton says "tell me, tell me, tell me" and then interrupts Zappa every time he tries to answer.
i love that the interviewer just flat out called him an idiot. that would never happen in today's world
This is the first time I've ever heard of John Lofton. This is not the first time I have heard of Frank Zappa, and it definitely won't be the last.
anyone got a link to the full peice? looks like fun :)
nice rug on Lofton`s head.....who the fuck did he think he was kidding
Zappa has that "what?!? I know your game" look on his face the whole time. Priceless.
someone make one of those musical edits that are doing the rounds with this scene as the kicker
Frank Zappa was speaking about the Free Masions and their temple recitals!! And he was correct, by the way!!
what do you mean? could you elaborate please?
Damn, I miss Zappa. Long hair or dressed in in a suit he was still Zappa. The ideology never wavered even when confronted with close-minded pinheads like this interviewer. I have never heard a song that glorfies incest...but I've heard many that glory war and drinking and violence. Anyone who is swayed by anything in music or a movie is a mental defective to begin with but us sane people have to suffer the rage of censorship if one person imitates a scene from a movie that gets them killed. This seems to just self-Darwinism at work with the weak minded taking themselves out of the game before they (hopefully) haven't had the opportunity to multiple. The parents only half to blame......the kids take it to that next step of lihting themselves on fire or shooting themselves because Ozzy told them to. I wish Zappa could have experienced the miracle that is Fox News. Hell, he could have written a whole comedy album about them. In short, the modern world is a Frank Zappa song that will never be written.
Can't believe you expressed this 7 years ago Now look at the psychology of many Americans, the insanity of the far too many conspiracy theorists, the kooks with too much influence at Fox and just this Fucked up planet In general..Frank and George Carlin would be skewering it all with glee. Your post was and is so insightful to our current mess.
"The modern world is a Frank Zappa song that will never be written"--a *perfect* meme. Someone please go make it.
It always amazes me how often the smallest minds rise to the top while the brightest minds are always cast out into the fringes.
Behavior modification to suit certain controlling interests in this country, moving towards a fascist theocracy: behavior modification.
I've seen tonnes of videos with him on the PMRC and rock music, and in everyone he seems to be the only one with common sense.
Zappa was a genius, garbage my ass
I know a lot of people who hears ABOUT Zappa, but rarely had a chance to hear his music. There was a "A Week with Frank Zappa" on the public radio in my country, but besides that I've heard Zappa on radio once. It was Waka-Jawaka, the entire ~teen minutes.
Zappa was a genius! John Lofton had no clue what he was talking about, let alone able to go toe-to-toe with the likes of Zappa!
I can't believe that fucking interviewer wouldn't let him talk. I wanted to hear his full argument because it's funny as fuck.
John Lofton is your typical right-wing clown.
RebelThoughts82 It's worth remembering that Zappa mostly went after liberal clowns and picked on their hypocrisy most often.
RebelThoughts82 Bullshit. He's a fringe type idiot. We don't tend to let our nutcases take center stage, unlike liberals.
danimal097521 LOL you really wanna go there? Thats all you clowns have is nutcases.
danimal097521 Might wanna check out the ratings on Fox News before you make claims like that, sunshine.
Seagal Don't really have to check out those ratings. I just watch those ads for rascal scooters, sit down showers, denture clinics and old folks homes. Way to sell to the demographic!
Love how Frank broke the ice at the end and all had a good laugh
I love Frank Zappa's weird and wonderful artistic recordings. In a league of his own
Frank Zappa wasnt only the most gifted musical mind of our time-the man was a genius and super funny.Zappa was the most talented human being ever in my opinion-Zappa fans will never get over his early passing.A one in a trillion person.
There goes a frustrated little man.
This really grinds my gears
"I'm Quebecer(from Quebec in Canada the only french province or state left in north America).But still this interview gives us a great idea of "open mindness" of fake intelligentia born from church beliefs....you can't possibly evolve if only good beliefs are your MOTO.....Zappa was a god for QUESTIONING beliefs and evolving from your everyday routine as a member of the numeral society.......God bless him so he was OPEN EYED MINDED
Zappa was right here but the reason he got this response because he was cynical by nature about things. he wasn't very kind in general. I think there is a better way of looking at the world than he did, but he was a genius.
There is only one way to look at the world , through truth and Mr. Zappa merely spoke it .
While being grumpy and generally unpleasant you can speak the truth without being rude also.
James Bruce The "truth" as HE perceived it, spoken rude, crude, and a bit childishly.
MP Pk
I would be rude too if that guy called my music garbage, especially if I were such an accomplished musician as Zappa.
***** Yes it is important. How you speak and your attitude in a conversation effects how you are perceived. I can disagree with you respectfully without ever resulting in an argument as happened here if you convey yourself with respect. "Learn to disagree without being disagreeable."
Ha ha, if they only knew what things would be like 2013...they wouldn't have even bothered with Mr. Z
The whole exchange, but especially that smirk at the end totally reminds me of Groucho Marx. :3
ah man 2020 and this is relevant !
Gotta love Frank!
Frank stood up for his values and our's. Thank you.
1:20!! THE SMILE!! I LOVE IT
That guy insulted Zappa first, he lost the debate and knew it.
The founding fathers wanted a secular government for a nation in which anyone of any background and any religion could come and not kill each other over it.
"Do you really think the founding fathers meant 'freedom of speech' applies to art and music lyrics when they drafted the 1st Amendment? Then you're just an idiot. Oh, but you know, guns, they totally meant guns with mile-long scopes and automatic magazines when they wrote the 2nd." - Conservative logic
CarterJ9 --I get your point and agree. Some will miss it, and deflect to your lack of technical expertise about guns. There are limits on speech--hate speech, certain threats; laws about defamation, libel etc. And, there are limits on the 2nd amendment too, regarding fully automatic weapons, heavy weapons, magazine capacity, etc. The framers of the constitution, like reasonable people today, would agree to certain restrictions on certain rights in today's world, and would recognize zealots and moralists like John Lofton and 2nd amendment paranoiacs for who they are.
When you resort to name-calling in a debate, you are conceding victory to your opponent.
I think that guy with glasses also played in The Wolf of Wall Street.
This was back when I merely hated the Republicans and the right-wing talking heads.
Yep,....Thank you Tipper Gore......
Funny how we "assume" the old dude was "conservative"......
I mean it's the democrats that scream about separation of church and state while they trot out the REVEREND Al Sharpton, the REVEREND Jesse Jackson, the REVEREND Jeremiah Wright, the REVEREND Lewis Farrakhan,...etc.....to peddle their wares.....
George Clark BAM !!!!!
George Clark
Tipper Gore had only a Democratic vagina!
Joe Page LOL, just think her hubby could have been president back in 2k had it not been for the supreme court .... course may blame Florida's antiquated flawed voting machines to start ;)
All the same when we think about it, is kind of sad when it comes to politics we're really inept as a nation as we seem to pick the least idiot among the most ridiculous clowns the professional politicians may toss at us... What's really wrong here is we need to go back to a day when our politicians were not really politicians by trade.
Tom Mack YEP..!!!!
Heaven forbid we have a president that KNOWS the economy, business, and jobs,.....that can FIX the economy , business, and jobs.
I want a guy with horned rimmed glasses that wears a pocket protector that knows nothing but numbers....and leave all this "change the world " crap at home.
"The Washington Times" is to journalism what the Reverend Sun Yung Moon (to whom it belongs) is to religion....
This is why Zappa is my favorite interviewee of all time
And this is more than ever exactly what it's like trying to have any kind of intelligent conversation with these people. We're truly doomed. :(
Ha, ha - I miss Frank Zappa.
Lofton still hasn't figured it out. In retrospect, Zappa was rather a model of cool, rational behavior, and cool and accurate analysis of the Constitution.
Ed Darrell
True, Lofton's model of "debate" was all leading questions and ad hominem fallacies; I was a teenager back when this aired - no wonder why I was turned off by politics - just a bunch of silly grey-heads prattling non-sense. The only thing that's changed now the news has a bunch of sexy blond heads prattling non-sense:)
Me too
Ah...Frank Zappa :-). Such a refreshing change from the assholes of the time...
As Frank always said "If you don't like my music, just listen to something else.' Freedom first.
1:19 That smile is EPIC!