Joe Louis vs Ezzard Charles
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- Joe Louis vs Ezzard Charles. Sept. 27, 1950. Yankee Stadium, Bronx, New York, United States.
Джо Луис против Эззарда Чарлза, 27 сентября 1950 г., все раунды, поражение Луиса (UD) 
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Ezzard Charles: pound for pound, what a fighter.
Louis was my father's favourite heavyweight. Sad to see a fighter competing when well passed his best: Louis not treated decently by the US Revenue-badly done Uncle Sam !!!
Well said
joe louis worked in the plants in Detroit. got into boxing to get out of the plants, and it is very hard work working on the line in Detroit. and i don't blame him for getting out. GOD BLESS JOE LOUIS.
Can't think of many better testimonies to the greatness of a fighter than to go 15 rounds with a new champion even at 36.
After honorably serving his Country in WWII and donating two entire boxing gate purses to Uncle Sam's military establishment for the war cause . The U.S. governments, internal revenue service , hounded Joe Louis for the taxes and interest incurred on those two ,donated purses ,to the point he was forced out of retirement and back into the ring. He donated the entire gates of those two matches to the U.S. military yet was held responsible for taxes on money he never received. The next time you consider freedom and justice in the United States ..remember this !
trufiend138 the USA doesn’t care about its population in general, but they especially don’t care about the black, Latino and Native American people.
And yet there are people out there still criticizing Ali for dodging the draft
@@somethingrandom7026 they hate us all equally nowdays
Joke. If you need a heart transplant, get your replacement from an IRS agent. Get one that’s never been used!
and then 9/11 inside job, the plannedemic and maybe ww3 fuck the nwo joe louis was the peoples champ
The day Ezzard Charles broke America's heart by beating its hero. Always sucks to be the guy succeeding the popular champion, really feel for Charles.
A comparable situation would be Ali-Holmes.
@@jogman262 and Moore-Ali
@@jogman262 Johnson Willard, Dempsey Tunney, Tyson Holmes, there's a few of these isnt there.
@@mmastiff734 Moore was a legend for going so long
@The New Huge Country Boys
Holmes was the only fighter you mention that came out of retirement to try and regain the title. Johnson was not retired nor was Dempsey.
When Charles was in hospital in wheelchair only 2 men visited him Rocky Marciano and Jersey Joe Walcott
@aaron pryor You finally said something nice about a non-black fighter. Proof even racists can be nice at times.
@aaron pryor The mob didn't help him KO his opponents. He only had 1 controversial win in his career which was against Ezzard Charles, and he dominated Charles when they rematched.
Real men then
Getting in that ring builds bonds between fighters that's strange how fighting each other would build friendships like that
@@H.K.5 when the Brown Bomber retired: Walcott, Charles and Marciano were the title fighters of their time, along with Archie Moore, I can watch those four fight their title fights over and over, they really battled hard.
It is a true honor to watch these two all time great fighters display their skills against each other. It is true Joe Louis' best days were behind him at this point, but he still displays a champions heart and gives it everything he has in a performance to be proud of against a younger, slicker and quicker Ezzard Charles.
Louis outweighed Charles by 33 pounds in this fight. Charles 185 lb, Louis 218 lb.
If you listen 18 months Joe Louis was the undefeated heavyweight championship. He was a very much dangerous fighter in this bout
@@MrMidnight92_ Joe Louis was defeated by Max Schmeling.
@@josecarrillo4903 When they ran it back Joe KO'd Schmeling in one round
at the best day louis was beatten by schmelling
no excuse
and again marciano again the best day
scmelling had 9 years more than louis
marciano had 9 years mote than marciano
its so easy to find excuse just because it was louis
This fight made me want to drink some Blue Ribbon beer!
Ezzard had such class. He wanted to reign as champion in the same fashion as Joe Louis. That's class after a hard fight, hard to do. Salute Ezzard Charles!
Two of the most stand up men to ever face off in a ring!
I use to hear the old men talking bout Joe Louis and Ezzard Charles.
but marciano more greatest
Charles came in at 185 lb for this fight, and Louis had a 33 pound weight advantage. Charles was one of the greatest fighters of all time p4p.
Most definitely!
@@kaio2212able Louis was completely washed.
@@Maria.Isabella.Sanchez he was but still formidable. I rank Joe Louis higher obviously.
@@Maria.Isabella.Sanchez he wasn’t. He was looking like a beast in training and went on to win every fight afterwards till he met Marciano. Charles was too good.
@@hammad9091 I would say it's more in between honestly. He isn't in prime best mode like he was in the late 30's to late 40's since you can tell he isn't firing his combinations as much and is a bit slower and heavier in general but isn't completely washed up fighter as Joe Louis was the number 1 contender after this fight from his 8 straight wins until Rocky put an end to it.
You rarely hear this fight mentioned but this is an incredibly brutal fight. Ezzard Charles took a real beating. As did Joe Louis. For me in some ways when I watch Ezzard Charles I see Evander Holyfield. Their Styles and demeanors are similar. Joe Louis not quite the brown bomber of old here, not as fast and his reflexes have dulled. Unable to really pull the trigger. But he's still game, powerful, and cagey. Ezzard Charles moving giving angles, pop shotting but also standing in there and banging away with Louis being clearly the bigger man. I think this fight is a testament to both of these Great Hall of Fame Fighters. Joe Louis's Grit, determination, and experience versus Ezzard Charles desire, skill, and craftsmanship. Great fight by two of my most favorite fighters of all time thanks for the video.
The Louis, Charles, Walcott, Marciano firefights were great title fights, any variations of the combatants.
Nice commentary
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Yes thanks for some excellent observations by you. The comparison of holyfield with charles is good on a few levels, climbing up the weights, similar looks and style
Ezzard was a beast Marciano said he was the toughest man he ever fought.
I would say that also if i had my nose split like a banana peel by Ezzard
Actually Marciano said Walcott gave him his toughest fight but Charles was a great boxer and you could see Joe was spent.
Louis seemed never to cut...
Thats what Rocky said...Ezzard was the toughest man...
@trufiend138 Why should he be ranked lower? Cause according to you them black fighters were past their primes? So? He beat'em anyway, didnt he? Knocked'em out, every single one of them, some of them, twice. You've got any proof that prime Walcott wouldnt have gotten his head chopped off? And motherfucking Walcott was the reigning champ when he fought Marciano. He wasnt the champ earlier, in his supposed "prime". How about Charles? Lost twice at 32-33. You've got any proof he'd have won at 30? Archie was old though, wasnt he? But he was the reigning light heavy weight champ at the time, was he not? He was beating them other fighters, prime or not. But not Marciano. "but but, if he fought prime Louis, for sure Louis would have beat him", sure yeah, cause Max Schmeling was so much better than Rocky
No bullshit decisions, no contested decisions, no doubts. Marciano beat them all good, put them midget hands on them and retired about 15 of'em permanently. So I say, he is properly ranked
Amazing, Ezzard defended his title 4 times & lost, understandably to Jersey Joe Walcott on his 5th defense, less than one year after fighting and defeating the Brown Bomber, Joe Louis.
Sept. 1950 Ezzard wins the title over Louis, 5 fights later in July 1951, he loses to Joe Walcott...Ezzard Charles, 6 fights in less than a year, what an incredible boxer.
What is wrong with me?! I cannot stop watching this fight and it's 5 in the morning!
Nothing wrong with you. Boxing is good for the heart and soul!
@@krypticzisback it up team of 888
Yup me too 5am rite now in Cincinnati ohio watchin a legend from my hometown
Cincinnati 513 we here im 2020 wit it
It's 3:27am here 4/8/22🤣. Great fight
An older Louis still great !
😂 he started boxing at the age of 11... rocky started boxing at the age of 24 you kids still make excuses.
Thanks for the video!
Two great fighters. Joe Louis possibly went on far too long in the ring. However, Ezzard Charles was a superb boxer and athlete. Joe Louis will never be forgotten because he’s recognised by most people as one of the greatest heavyweights that ever fought in the ring.
Marciano rated Charles as his toughest opponent. Great respect to all these guys.
@@chrisblockley5783didn't charles lose to wallcot while wallcot was 37 and he was like 30?
Good morning bro Charles beat Walcott more than once l think it was two times. He also beat Archie Moore two or three times.
@@keithcampbell6806 not for the title and wallcot was 7 years older
@@The_Magnificent_Moose Charles beat Walcott twice, Walcott beat Charles twice. All 4 of their fights were title bouts.
After a 12 year Heavyweight Champion Reign, Joe Louis stepped for the first time in 12 years a Challenger. 1951 was a sad year. It twas the end of an era. Louis would lose to Charles and soon was taken out as a contender, Chasing Bums around the ring, people he could have knocked out in the 1st round. He finally was Knocked out by Rocky Marciano. And retired, He still owed the IRS 1.5 Million dollars in back taxes. And has he descended into Paranoia, He lost His star power. As more vocal Black Athletes like Muhammad Ali rose up. Louis was criticized for rolling over and not Paying attention to Civil Rights problems because he Was ill Equipped To deal with their Rage and Anger. And while White America Still knew who he was, He was seen as the last of an age. All of his contemporaries had died out. And too many he lived far to long. Joe Louis was a true American Hero, Athlete, And Icon. In an age of tyranny and War. He stood like a beacon of hope to Many suffering And Terrorized by an evil Dictator in Adolf Hitler.
+Sam Hsu Horseshit
+Dave Smith In what way?
Joe Louis was a true American hero!
Louis knocked out Primo Carnera, Max Baer, Max Schmeling, Jack Sharkey, James Braddock (The Cinderlla Man.) and Bliiy Conn twice in his prime. 4 former heavyweight Champions and the LHW champion (at a time when not much size seperated most HW's & LHW's. He also knocked out Jersey Joe Walcott, Joe Louis beat plenty of great fighters in his prime, and at least one ATG twice (both against Walcott one very disputed, the other stunning knock out.) when Joe was already past his best days.
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Never seen this bout before. I knew that EC was supposed to be great, but it's amazing how he shut down Louis's offence in much of this fight. Of course, Louis was past his best, but he still had a lot of wins ahead of him, and he had a big size advantage. He was not shot at this point, but EC often made him look shot due to his effortless elusiveness and sharp punching.
AMAZING VIDEO THANKS MAN.
TheTartanSoldier any relation to the tartan tornado?
Always sad to see greats go on too long. Tragic stuff.
Yeah like Roy Jones that be hurting heart to see Roy getting ko'd by fighters I know he walked through in his day
nice leaping left hook at 5:00 by ezzard too!!!
Joe Louis was well past his peak. He was brave as always. Ezzard Charles deserved to win the heavyweight championship. They were gentlemen fighters.
it is remarkable how many heavyweight champions that Joe Louis fought, Jack Sharkey, Primo Carnera, Max Baer, Max Schmeling, Jersey Joe Walcott, Ezzard Charles, James Braddock, Rocky Marciano and light-heavy champ, Archie Moore.
Louis never fought Moore.But yes,remarkable. Same with Ali. Light-Heavy Moore, Liston, Patterson, Terrell, Frazier, Ellis, Light-Heavy Foster, Foreman, Norton , Holmes, Berbick.
@@chrisreidy439 Thank you, you were right, and I was wrong about Archie Moore fighting Joe Louis. Moore was remarkable, having over 200 fights. I believe he is the only one to have fought both Marciano and Clay, (and yes, it was Clay when they fought.
RIP JOE LOUIS as a otr driver used to drive thru Cincinnati , and had a road named after the Cobra . Always thought Mr. Charles and Mr. Holmes and Mr. Tunney most underrated . Rip Gene.
Thanks
Charles was so much smaller than Louis at 34lbs lighter. There was only a 7 year age gap so Ezzard deserves credit.
Sea Of Sin only?
Luke Jackson he didn't have it at the time.I think Marciano's beatings triggered it
sskspartan i dont think it waa boxing related
Louis was passed his prime and ONLY came back because of the racist people hounding him down for tax money, which Joe Louis didn't actually owe. They were robbing him and betrayed an American hero. Louis was passed it having been champion for 12 years. It's Louis that gets the credit for going 15 rounds against a fresh younger man.
Truth Hitman americans have no respect for their legends
Joe is past his prime here for sure. But Charles is such a good and smart boxer. If he had stayed at light heavy he probably would have been the best ever.
Agreed. He might have been too good for his own good, couldn't get a shot at the title which had he have, would have ruled that division for as long as he liked. Charles was 3 - 0 against Archie Moore at light heavy, too good for Moore. He has to be the best light heavy ever.
@@marknorris1381 Charles or Archie the best light heavy ever? Moore
@@aarondigby9859 I go with Charles actually. 3 victories from 3 fights against Moore including a KO win and one fight which was a decision where Charles reportedly won nearly every round and put Archie on the canvas as well. And all 3 fights were at the light heavyweight limit.
These were two superb heavyweight boxers. Joe Louis of course was a legend but by 1950, he was slowing up and struggling against the younger Charles, who was a cagey and skilful boxer with fast hands. A magnificent contest between two wonderful fighters.
This is my first time watching Joe Louis fight thanks 👍
Watch him in his prime.
Joe was considered "a credit to his race." I never heard that about any since.
Louis was past his time and Ezzard started his career at 170 and was around 185 here. True great fighters. I wish Louis didnt have to come back to fight for money.
Joe Louis was 33 and 1/2 lbs heavier WOW!!,that"s a mismatch
I don't think he fought at more about 205.
Joe was a huge.man in his era. 6ft2. 220lbs.with a great jab with a 77inch reach along with a very hard right that KO.many a rough fighter.
Primo carnera, mas baer and buddy baer were a lot bigger
He was 20 pounds overweight
Just a kid during the 50's Louis fights. Huddled around the radio to hear the fights. What a time! RIP JOE LEWIS THE BROWN BOMBER!😮😅
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Any one notice Joe Louis's left shoulder injury, colar bone joint to upper arm? I have got 2 of those, very limiting to train with
There's a big knot on Louis' shoulder. Looks painful.
I noticed that too immediately when the fight started
It was horrible the way the government attacked Joe Louis even after the free donations Louis gave.
Without a doubt Joe Louis was one of the 5 greatest boxers in history, 12 years as world champion from 1937 to 1948 in 25 defenses. By this time in 1950 Ezzard Charles was at the peak of his career and fitness and yet it was still a tough fight for Charles. His only 3 defeats were against Max Schmeling in 1936 (when he was at his peak), 1950 against Charles and 1951 against Rocky Marciano, these last two already at the end of his career.
Totally agree claudio...but what if billy conn had had the sense to get on his bike for the last 2 rds in 1941?? But haha - he didnt
@@johntate5722 There was also the first fight against Jersey Joe Walcott in 1947 where Louis' split decision victory was hotly contested and in my opinion Walcott clearly won that fight. In the second confrontation in 1948, Louis' victory was clear.
Thanks claudio yes i think louis knocked jersey joe out in that 2nd match? But as you say, in the first fight walcott won, it was felt by many
@@johntate5722 Yes, that's why Louis' victory in the second fight was obvious haha
@@claudio5944 Hard to say Walcott won the first one without full footage of the fight.
I had to synchronize the radio broadcast of the second fight with the footage and the video leaves out a lot of the action. Rounds where Louis was clearly winning according to the radio did not seem like that at all in the footage because you could only see 20 seconds of the round.
It's the same case with the first fight. We simply don't see Louis driving Walcott back, outjabbing him and pushing the action for most of the fight. We just see the short exchanges where Walcott looks good before he starts backing off again.
It's interesting how all 3 judges gave him 6-7 rounds and no more. Walcott won half the fight, but that's not good enough to get the championship.
That's the way champs were. Good man.
two great boxers
Fans often speak of entertainers as if they should be young forever.They remind they are older and not as good as if it is controllable.No need to mention Joe is not as quick.Just appreciate the legacy.Of course he is not as sharp. However a great legacy.Joe Louis
Memorable night
Just listen to those typewriter's going to town.
A fight between 40-yr-old Ali and 40-yr-old Louis would have really sucked.
And your point is what? Are you saying that a fight between a 40 yr old Marciano and Schmeling would have been much watch TV??
This is a great fight! By the end, they both looked like they were in a train crash.
One can hear the great Don Dunphy In the background calling the play by play on radio... No dead air space.... The greatest announcer the fight game ever had... Sorry we couldn't hear all these fights through him.... Didn't miss a beat.
I wish one day the full Don Dunphy broadcast of this fight becomes available.
Two great sportsmen.. Sad that Joe had to fight to pay the IRS.. Thats disgusting. Charles smile at the end to Joe says a lot..
Y man Don't Turner I hope toeet some day to talk boxing.
Saw Louis and Charles fight along with many more a great.
Joe definitely appears to have lost some quickness and reflexes by this time, but he was still Joe Louis. Charles was one of the great skilled ring masters.
Louis was a full order of magnitude slower in every way by this time. Charles is in his prime.
In the 40 on the farm my grand father boxer was farpo we could ñot get radio working ne pul a crist set in a big bowl and we heard Louis beat c
Furpo he was not happy
Great Fight ❤
Back then, between the, (age 32-35), was considered old. It was a(n)very overwhelming, tough era; back then.
Yes, but the announcer keeps calling them both "boys," a racially charged term at the time, and it kept me wincing.
He's balding and looks very worn for mid 36 year old. How many parents back in the day told their kids they were 7 for 4 years or just didn't keep track of birthdays or dobs because they had so many kids records were crap? People semi-joke cuban boxers are older than they say but this looks more off than Frank Sanchez's dob.
that was a bice spin at 4:04
I know charles just holding back at the later rounds, he could easily finish louis at that time, but i think charles put so much respect to louis anf that was very kind.
If Charles could've knocked Joe Louis out he would have, Charles fought a well thought out fight, he knew he was much quicker than Joe but respected Joe's punching power and craftiness because Joe did swell and cut him up under one eye, swollen eye, bloody nose. That was a crafty fight but two excellent fighters.
@@aarondigby9859, Ezzard looked up to Louis. After Kid Chocolate, Joe Louis was the man who a young Charles saw as his main inspiration as a young, new boxer. This fight also took place after the Sam Baroudi tragedy. With both of those thoughts in mind, it is fair to believe that in addition to Louis' grit and power, Charles wouldn't be so keen to go searching for a kayo that would have required him to physically punish his idol. Louis was no pushover, and Charles did not really go looking to knock people out with the same intensity as he did against Baurodi and beforehand. He almost hung up his gloves when Sam died.
reflexes go at different times for different fighters...I don't know if punishment and wear and tear speed up that loss of timing and reflexes or not, but age is just a number to fighters: a 30 year old may be rime or past it, it all depends upon how much their reflexes have slowed. One old fighter or another said he could see the punches coming, same as ever, but could no longer get out of the way. Louis here is simply ancient in boxing terms
He was a shade of himself of course .
You could tell he couldn't read Charles' feints . Or he was just too slow to react already.
That's certainly plausible. Whatever the explanation, this is nothing like the Joe Louis who dropped Primo Carnera with one of the best over-the-jab right hand counters I've ever seen.
As if Carnera was any good...he was a punch bag..
malc jow In point of fact Carnera _was_ good. If you look at film there is nothing -absolutely nothing - to support the common misconception that he was either slow or clumsy. He was at least as fast and agile as Klitschko or Fury.
polymath7
Klits have decent jabs though.
And Vlady can hook off the jab.
Carnera?
When Joe was in hospital due to a nervious breakdown or stress condition Marciano visited the hospital and gave them a brown paper bag full of money and said IOOK AFTER MY FRIEND .rocky trusted cash and helped his friends .great men great men.
For some background on the "midget" at the beginning of the film, see Mike Sager's article "My Cousin Mace" from Feb 24, 2014 Esquire. And, as you can tell from the link name, it ties the story into the story of Peter Dinklage, the actor portraying Tyrion Lanister. www.esquire.com/news-politics/a27516/sager-mace-dinklage/
Joe's reflexes were so compromised that he could not even throw out the great left jab that used to set up all his KOs.
Who is this announcer? Is that Russ Hodges? or Red Barber? Anyway, he's wonderful; you don't hear good, relaxed, classy announcers like that much any more. (Love the sound of typewriters in the background!)
Listen closely and you can hear Don Dunphy in the background calling the blow-by-blow for radio.
Ted Husing is the announcer on screen.
@@orbyfan you can't beat the 50's. The war was over and America was getting back it's stride.
@@orbyfan the radio announcers could really call a fight, I remember hearing fights called on the radio, they didn't miss any punch. Those guys were good on radio.
Which round is it where Louis hits Charles after the bell and Charles hits him back? Anyone know?
TheChamp0425 14th
What a fighter Ezzard Charles was and pound for pound one of the greatest
Charles died at 54 from multiple sclerosis, very sad that he was also broke..
Watch Joes right hand. He scarcely uses it to punch. There's something wrong.
This has been a great fight. I have Ezzard ahead after 11 rounds.
This was an awful fight as Joe Louis was essentially a one-armed puncher with is left. It appeared that his right hand was hurt and only used it for a rare body punch especially in the second half of the fight. He had many opportunities to catch Charles with a hard right to the head. Was this fixed or did Louis have a broken right hand?
who's doing the commentary, Edward R Murrow?
I don't know but hif he calls them the boys one more time I am going to scream.
I like boxing because of this.
Louis wasn't getting his punches off very well.
Joe Lewis was an honorable and respected patriot to this country 😊
Much respect to these gladiators!!😉👍😇
This ia an old and shot Joe louis against Charles.
Would give Ali 64-67 lots of trouble
He would beat Holmes in my opinion. He was everything and more that Larry struggled with Against Spinks.
IN JOE LOUIS EARLY YEARS NO BOXER COULD HAVE TAKEN HIS PUNCHES NONE.
Schmeling did and more the first time around
marciano destroy him
@@guillaumefrenkel6993 Marciano “destroyed” a ghost version of Louis, not the Louis of the late 1930’s.
but scmelling 1930 9 years old more than louis
and he beaten him
its so easy to say its so old
at 36 you are not so old
@@JeffaHensleyMarciano kills Louis no matter when they fight.
For some reason I'm craving paps blue ribbon beer
Whatl
What'll you have? 🍻
@@garychapman4294 Fallstaff or Carling Black Label, if you don't have that I guess I'll take an old Blue Ribbon .
@@aarondigby9859 A pint of 'Old and Filthy!'
😢Louis is letting Charles get off first.,36 isn't old! 2 year layoff is the cause. That was a dull ass fight.
My video foreman Louis shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on people Mike/foreman fought? , he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-90s,so yea Joe would be destroyed fast
Who is the commentator?
Charles was 33 and a half pounds lighter that Louis. He was a great fighter!
The fight is in the 9 th round and it almost reminds me of the George foreman , Jimmy Young fight . The bigger Foreman stalking the smaller faster Young . With Young suddenly lashing out as Foreman closed in.
Just wanted to add that there was still some of the old Louis in this fight but Charles was extremely quick ! 9 rounds Charles 4 rounds Louis and 1 even.
Charles vs Louis suddenly reminds me of the Tactics that Tommy Morrison's great victory against The Great George Foreman. Stick and move.And some combination.
Tommy Morrison?! He used banned substances!
@@angrygrizzly4545👈--a.k.a. Black David Frost, ha ha ha I've won all our debates because you know nothing about the sport of boxing do you??? All you can do is troll and make things up about a sport you know nothing about ha ha ha embarrassing.
Marciano Never Faced An Elite Fighter In His Prime.
Name One, Just One Prime Elite Fighter Marciano Beat?
Failing To Name Even One Proves My Comment Rings True. Show Me Any Respected Boxing Publication Or Analyst That Claims Walcott-Charles-Moore Were In Their Prime When They Fought Marciano???
After answering question
explain why you "refused" to box me???
Instead-u🏃💨💨💨 ran-away-lik-a-girl !!!!
They go on about joshuas and furys size but nobody stops to see the MASSIVE ability advantage these smaller heavyweights had. They are just so much more savvy and skillful I highly doubt the size would do anything but make them a big target. I just can’t see in anyworld a milkbag like Fury besting them.
What is with the migdet again in the beginning?
Why do they keep saying Louis was the undefeated former champ. Max Schmeling knocked him out in their first fight.
Yeah. but Joe wasn't champ at the time.
If Charles stayed as a light heavy he would still be champ.
Ezzard Charles hugely underrated
Charles was way too fast and landed far more shots. 1950, aged 29, at his best
The referee sounds like the Goodfellas.
9:22 hip swing offset footwork
I always thought Ali would beat Louis just because of how Billy Conn was winning on the score cards and Jersey Joe Walcot always gave him trouble I do how ever think Tyson would be more than a hand full for Muhammad Ali but would adapt to Tysons peek a boo style an knock em out late say round 13-15
Virginia Landeris It always amazes me why some people think a slow moving Louis could beat a speed king like Ali...
+Virginia Landeris Same can be said for slow plodding Joe Frazier who was essentially a one trick pony gave Ali hell and beat him. And how Henry Cooper knocked Ali out and his corner cheated. Louis was better than them. I'm not saying he would win but, it works both ways with that "because of how _____ did against them".
Louis is not slow. In fact his hand speed is quite comparable to Ali's. Look at his fights with Primo Carnera or Abe Simon. If you still think he's slow then you're misled by choppy old film. The right hand counter he drops Carnera with is every bit as fast as the punch Ali Dropped Liston with -only Carnera was actually hurt.
Primo Canera - Abe Simon...2 of the slowest boxers in boxing history..,Louis would look fast with those 2 tortoises ...Ali much too fast for Louis...pick him off at long range..
i doubt he would, people keep forgetting joe came back to beat conn on his feet without help from no one. ali got flattened by henry Cooper angelo extended the tear in his glove to buy him time in short he cheated.
Joe says "I have never fought a tougher opponent! 36 yrs old im just heavier but stronger (look at mayweather 45yr and still winning!!). I never went through wars cause of my dominance ! So I'm not old.its his style of boxing. Never had tougher opponent."
Mayweather, who talking bout these flyweight, girl slapping fighters. Child PLZ.
I gave Louis rounds 2,4 and 10,
Gary Chapman good scoring my man!
marciano the others
I’m willing 2 bet Louis was older then 36
Joe was damn near 46, IKR. A lot of Blacks born in the Deep Jim Crow South didn't have birth records, weren't allowed any public accommodations.
Wow was i the only one hearing him callin them two boys when they are clearly men
America is the greatest protagonist...
They where to easy with the word boy the where men, great fight.
Louis has a over 30lbs. weight advantage .
Joe was out of his prime here right?
Yes. Still had the power but he just couldn't land.
given the choice i doubt either of them would've wanted this fight, louis was at a huge disadvantage
@@LardGreystoke "Still had the power but he just couldn't land" hmm those exact words are the same with Mike Tyson's situation against Danny Williams :-)
@@aspiknf Danny Williams engaged in a brawl with Tyson and whipped Tyson's arse, I saw that fight the other night. Tyson hit Williams plenty of times but Williams kept engaging in a brawl, I don't know whether Tyson was prepared to or expected Williams to engage like that but he knocked Tyson out.
Joe was absolutely one of the great ones. No doubt. But the Cincinnati Cobra was no piker either. Never got the credit for being a terrific boxer he deserved. One person's opinion, of course.
Louis wasn't undefeated.
This was the first loss Lewis suffered since Max schmeling
and not the last
@@guillaumefrenkel6993 uhriiiiiight. 🤔
@@matthewimi rocky marciano the greatest
@@guillaumefrenkel6993 I wonder how that fight would have gone had Lewis been 10 years younger. You know, about as unbeatable as he was when he took the title from Jimmy Braddock in 1937.
@@guillaumefrenkel6993 Marciano isn't even top five sadly. Joe is arguably in top 2 greatest heavyweights alongside Ali.
Joe needed a KO...he should have been swinging for the fence in the last round!
Great fight by the old lion against the younger man. What a clean fight. It's so refreshing to see a fight without clinching. Can't say the same about fighters that followed. Charles deserved the win and was a great champion.
You blind? They clinched
@@wilw3498 Not incessantly, like seen in so many fights that followed. Clinching was not a strategic part of the fight, imo. What are your thoughts, Wil?