Testudo was neither the best, nor most powerful roman military formation. It was a defensive formation designed to protect against incoming projectiles such as arrows while being on the move. It was not designed to be held for extended periods of time to attack, and extremely vulnerable to enemy charges, especially on the flanks. So very easy to counter by any organized opponent
Romans marched in rows to allow flexibility and the allows peltasts to do their thing etc, when they made contact they had solid battle lines with a shield wall, no testudo, thats a highly impractical way of fighting and a very tiresome one
@@jackthunderbolt4307 Even a "rabble" of "untrained" and ill-equipped barbarians didn't charge in like maniacs and had their own formations (shield wall, cuneus etc.).
Alan Lockwood no it wasn’t it could perfectly absorb charges because the shields were overlapped it was designed to absorb arrows and barbarians running at them but usually it wasn’t held so they could attack.
Not 100% true, when it came to a city/ settlement becoming under siege the romans would vote for a leader to defend. Lots of generals/defence comanders where at the front of the lines..... not the best plan, only works if you're Alexander the great or lucky 😂
This isn't a formation at all, Testudo was used to prevent the cohorts being destroyed from missile fire (complete waste of a legionnaire to die in a skirmish) the greatest Roman formation was the Triplex Acies
Aslo it's genius the fact that after like 3/4 minutes of fighting the first line of soldiers exchange with the second one and so on, so that the first line was never too tired
@@amedeoceccato7190 True, although the Triplex Acies had huge gaps in between units, enemies may have seeped through them, but they sacrificed that for manueverability.
@@polyroach2281 and thats the great thing about the triplex acies, these gaps not only allow manueverbility and flexibility through rough terrain but as well replinishment. When the first line of skirmish they retreat through the gaps, when the first line retreat they retreat through the gaps while being replaced by the second line that havent been block by the second thus they go in constant speed
@@gamerzpro091 And a good thing about that is that the first line usually has less experience, Hastati. The second has more, Principes. When the enemy has been worn doen by the Hastati, the Principes run in to replace them, and they are much fresher and experienced.
If you want to see REAL roman formations on screen, watch Rome first scene where they are in Alesia. Nothing can compare how good that show ilustrates roman fighting genius!
@@rebelfriend1818 Blimey! I bet Julius Ceaser is smiling in his grave that he has at least one supporter of his barbaric crimes that were thought so back in Rome even at the time.
Agreed! Testudo was a formation defensive posture. It's just movie fell in love with it and use for every scene to look cool. Another inaccuracy is when movie scene show legionares swinging their short swords. They jabbed with it, and usually after the enemy swung first. Also they kept their shields in front of their torsos at all times, even when stabbing and jabbing.
I dont understand what is meant by "most powerful & best" It's a defensive formation. The Romans employed many different formation depending on circumstances.
One-eyed Owl it’s the most well known, and in pop culture often mistaken as a phalanx, although testudo was a type of phalanx formation as a phalanx as we know it has been used for millennia in Europe, it doesn’t require shields all it requires is soldiers be extremely close to each other to not allow enemies to enter through the front of the phalanx, the flanks are still open to attack but can be supplemented by other regiments like Hannibal did with the peltast and thureophoroi supplementing the hoplites flanks in a phalanx formation, along with the hoplites using the sarissa the Romans had a hard time to say the least conquering Carthage. While not the best, the phalanx was damn good at its job, and it was changed by different commanders and cultures to fit their needs.
3:21 The Pale Pass melts letting in the full Legion waiting behind it. The final battle of the War known as the Battle of Winterhold result:Imperial Victory
Army: what formation do we have other then testudo General: the script only says sheild box,turtle formation,box with sheilds Army:😔 thats just testudo
Guys i made some research about the truth of the use of tetsudo formation. Tbh tetsudo formation was first used by the spartans in greek, the romans just copied the tetusudo formation from the spartans, take a look back at the movie 300 at the tetsudo formation scene the spartans used it in the first place, the romans just copied them.
Just a side note: Legio X Fretensis was not deployed to Judea before the first Roman-Jewish war of 66-73 AD, during the time of Jesus when the movie Risen was set, only auxiliary troops were their
not really, no it's not true. In the video we are witnessing a frontal charge that takes place in a sprawling way by a group of light infantrymen. The impact area is limited to the front and the pressure exerted does not happen all at once. At most, the failure of the testudo could occur due to a constant pressure given by the mass of the bodies that lean against each other, pressure which however is interrupted, because every time they approach, the enemies are injured, or killed. The only way to get it to breaj would be the exhaustion of Roman soldiers, enemies unable to feel pain and fear that continue to pile up, an elephant charge. An example of the effectiveness of testudo, although slightly modified, we have it in the wars of Marcus Antonius against the Parti where testudo is also used to resist the charge of heavy cavalry and if use to resist a charge of Cataphracts, can be used in the video of example considering that sprawling group. The testudo seems a simple formation to break, but we look at it with the eyes of modern people without taking into account the effect it had on the morale of the enemy troops and without considering that if a blow hits you, you will not remain insensitive.
@@icksv5529 yea but they have gauls flanking them from every derection in less then ten seconds they are almost blind and almost inmobile this formation was almost only used for sieges to protect the soldiers from missile attacks in open battle this was almost not done and when it was used in open battle it was for specific reasons. for example the horse archers from parthia
Testudo and his variants were used every time their use was found to be useful. If the enemy army was using projectiles (arrows, slingers, javelin etc) and the romans had to advance, testudo was used in disregard of siege or pitched battle. Mentioning again Marcus Atnonius, and repeating myself testudo variant (moenia) was used to resist the charge of Cataphracts. They were not horse archers, but a hell of heavy cavalry. What we see here it's a bunch of disorganized enemies. Some in the first line literally throw himself against the shields, which is stupid but realistic if we stay on the chronicles of that time, yet broad. Beside the first ones who throw themselves on the shields, we have the ones who falls killed or wounded which simply create a cap between them and the fellows behind them. We don't see anyone drop his weapon and coordinate a push and the rest in the back lines for what we see can just stay around without pushing. Moreover the shields surface help to distribute and dissipate the pressure force. Break that small testudo it's possible, with a strategy, I do not see any in the video. The video does not shows us the most logic thing to do, hit the back of the testudo, so we have to assume that it's not happened. The moment in which the video is debatable it's when testudo it's opened to create a circle around the prisoners. At this point, the eventual pressure would dissipate on a very small area and most likely, easier to break the only first line of romans, and yet it does't happen. Why does not happen? Because it's just a movie? Maybe. Because of a tactical mistake or undisciplined soldiers? Can also be. For example: The Carthaginians were a maritime power without a personal army. The armies of Hannibal and Hasdrubal were made up of mercenaries including the Gauls who were known to be unruly and drunkards. In the Metatauro battle, Hasdrubal between the various ethnic groups of the infantry, he had the Gauls that deployed on the left side, usually the weakest, behind the hills in order to prevent them from being noticed by the Romans right because of their "peculiarities" and because he hoped that by climbing the hills, the Roman would got tired, balancing the gap. When during the clash, the Romans manage to overcome Hasdrubal, they found the drunken Gauls and kill them all. I'm sure that if depicted in a movie, someone would have said "bullcrap" but the truth is that we are humans with strengths and weaknesses, moreover they were mercenaries and so fighting for money. ;)
@@icksv5529 All your toughts are interesting and brilliant, the only thing I have to contribute is that the legionaries are heavy infantry, not light.
It was neither larger numbers nor better generals that made the Romans so successful, but the thorough training of the legionaries that made them invincible, as this video shows so well. When, in the Late Empire, the Western Empire forsook their well disciplined regulars in favor of barbarian mercenaries and foederati, the empire was DOOMED.
All the training didn't help Romans at Carrhae, they were butchered by a much smaller Parthian army. Alexander the great '' I would not fear an army of lions led by a sheep, i'm afraid of any army of sheeps led by a lion.'' Brain always superseeds muscle, but you need both to win a battle!
@@KingExituS they were butchered because they had an idiot comander that led them in a trap and we mustn't forget that the parthian army was a good one and they had a good comander (its not very well written, but I speak Italian not English
@@KingExituS Who cares, defeats happen, it's not like to are always on Super Sayan modus. The Parthians where defeated several times and in time were forced to sign a peace threaty and return approx 30.000 ROman prisonars of war including coin for damage.
@@matyassiegel1732 No true, Romans were masters is using enemy skills, tools and tactics if these were better. Please share a source so that you can share your wisdome with us
Parthia may have a bone to pick with that since they defeated the Romans many times... oh... don't forget the Carthaginians handed Rome their asses many times too!
@@tubedude54 parthia lost that I know of 3 wars against Rome because Romans arent stupid they kept finding way to force the parthians to fight in hilly or mountainous terrain
I don’t mean to rag on you, but I would’ve picked a different country than the one that had its capital razed to the foundation and its culture eliminated. Hannibal Barca handed Rome its ass a few times and deserves a ton of credit...but he also had around 10 years (estimating from memory) of being able to march around Italy practically unimpeded and somehow never got around to squaring up against the SPQR itself at Rome. Despite not knowing how to actually finish what he started, he was still brilliant to the point of it seeming like magic. I’ve never looked it up, but I’d bet that Hannibal beat Romans and allies more than the rest of his countrymen combined over 3 wars, but I could be wrong.
Anno 9 Chr. Varus!. Leg XVII, Leg XVIII, Leg XIX. Found her Death in the German Forest. "Battle of Teutoburger Wald" Heil Hermann the Cherusker. We have destroyed the "Imperium Romanum"
Anno 9 Chr. Varus!. Leg XVII, Leg XVIII, Leg XIX. Found her Death in the German Forest. "Battle of Teutoburger Wald" Heil Hermann the Cherusker. We have destroyed the "Imperium Romanum"
@@oscarberolla9910 In fact the Romans lost in Teutoburg for an ambush. Rome returned to Germany but Tiberius blocked Germanicus in the conquest of Germany Search on google Germanicus Wiki. An extract: "While Germanicus enjoyed some success in his campaigns against Arminius and his allies, Tiberius decided not to attempt to conquer the Germans and recalled Germanicus to Rome. The effort it would have taken to conquer Germania Magna was deemed too great when compared with the low potential for profit from acquiring the new territory. Rome regarded Germany as a wild territory of forests and swamps, with little wealth compared to territories Rome already had. However, the campaign significantly healed the Roman psychological trauma from the Varus disaster, and greatly recovered Roman prestige. In addition to the recovery of two of the three lost eagles, Germanicus had fought Arminius, the leader who destroyed the three Roman legions in 9 AD, and defeated him in numerous battles. In leading his troops across the Rhine without recourse to Tiberius, he contradicted the advice of Augustus to keep that river as the boundary of the empire, and opened himself to potential doubts from Tiberius about his motives in taking such independent action. This error in political judgment gave Tiberius reason to controversially recall his nephew. Tacitus attributed the recall to Tiberius's jealousy of the glory Germanicus had acquired, and, with some bitterness, claims that Germanicus could have completed the conquest of Germania had he been given full operational independence." However it was right for everyone that the Roman Empire collapsed. All empires are overbearing and must fail. All empires are tyrants and must lose. Napoleon lost to an ambush, blitz, sudden attack, underestimated the Russians, the Russians feared Napoleon, the only way to beat Napoleon was to make a sudden attack, the Russians sacrificed the city Moscow. sorry for english
One of the best insane use of testudo was never showed in a movie and it's described by Cassius Dio Cocceianus: "The Romans resort to this formation in two cases: when they approach a fortress to conquer it [...]; or when, surrounded on all sides by enemy archers, they kneel at the same time, including horses that are trained to get on their knees or lie on the ground. so they make the enemy believe that they are exhausted and when the enemies come closer, they suddenly rise and annihilate them"
Another side note: the response of the Roman soldiers to the opening charge of Germanic warriors in movie Gladiator is completely wrong, the Roman will through their javelins vs the advancing enemy, not waiting them to reach the shield wall, the Roman Javelin called Pilum is designed as throwing weapon not as stabbing spear! Another mistake almost universal to all media depicted the Roman army (except maybe for the Series Rome), is showing the Romans fight in open formation in one on one combat, this is a great mistake, the Roman never break the formation unless they are routed and fleeing!
You are right except pilum can be used as a spear when situation allows but usually for throwing only because legion are trained as a more of a swordsman than spearmen. However, I can tell you pilum is also used as a pike (long spear) to deter cavalry charge and is used for hand-to-hand combat.
Zei Marc there were two types of the pilum both suitable for throwing, the short and the long, the Roman soldier usually was carrying two short pila, but in case they expect to face a force of cavalry; they will cary either two shorts and one long or one short and one long, the long can be used both as spear or javelin
The Testudo (Turtle) formation uses shields in front and on top versus missile weapons. The other formations were just the normal closed-in shield walls. There should have been spearmen in the second rank to stab through the gaps in the shield from over the shoulders of the first rank. The Romans would have one or two javelins and/or pila (pilums) to throw at enemy in range before they reach the shield wall. Centurions and legates could lose their distinctive helmets but there should be file closers (sergeants) to repeat and take up the commands and dress the ranks.
@Japek34 When they came there was not Roman Empire. After Constantino and the barbarization of troops, the quality and command was very poor. Also the level of emperators. Conquer Rome was easy.
The best was the line where they could relieve each cohort after fighting for 15 minutes, thus putting fresh men into the fight each time when the enemy did n ot.
No. The depiction of the testudo here is wildly off. The testudo was a defensive formation against missile attacks only. In close combat, offensive or defensive, it was useless. The tank is the conceptual successor to the cavalry.
Movies never use the formation correctly. At the command testudinem formate, the legionaries assumed the testudo (tortoise) formation. This was slow moving but almost impenetrable to enemy fire, and thus very effective during sieges and/or when facing off against enemy archers. However the testudo formation didn't allow for effective close combat and therefore it was used when the enemy were far enough away so as the legionaries could get into another formation before being attacked. At the command tecombre, the legionaries would break the Testudo formation and revert to their previous formation. Copy pasted from Wiki, but indeed accurate.
Why'd you leave the protection of the walls? Walls are used to put opponent into disadvantage forcing him to scale the walls/breach the gate therefore exposing him to stones, archers and other projectiles potentially costing him a lot of manpower
@ Bruce Kent..... " Die Germanen" ........Alamannen Burgunden Franken Goten Langobarden Markomannen Sachsen Thüringer Vandalen Germanic people are a group of former tribes in Central Europe and southern Scandinavia whose identity in research is traditionally determined by language. Characteristics of the Germanic languages include certain phonetic changes compared to the reconstructed Indo-European original language, which are summarized as Germanic or first sound shift. The inhabited by the Germanic settlement area is referred to as Germania. From the turn of the century, contact with the Romans shaped the Germanic world, just as the development of the Roman Empire increasingly combined with the Germanic world. In the Late Antiquity came in the course of migration to extensive tracts of several Germanic tribes (gentes), which formed some larger associations (see ethnogenesis), and finally to their invasion of the Roman Empire. Some of these groups founded empires after the ancient Roman model on the soil of the Western Empire, which went down around the year 476. Elements of the Germanic religion and religious customs were transferred, among other things, by accommodation into assumed Christianity.
They were not invasions but immigration. There were barbarian invasions due to uncontrolled immigration, the Romans brought many poor peoples from northern Europe into Roman territory, immigrants suffering from hunger and attacked Rome, the Romans had made a mistake, they brought too many peoples of northern Europe. The Greek Roman culture was much more advanced than the Germanic world. The barbarians brought the Middle Ages, the Greek Roman world was reborn with the Italian Renaissance. The barbarians with difficulty have resumed the Roman world, they have only imitated some laws and writings, and little else. However it was right for everyone that the Roman Empire collapsed. All empires are overbearing and must fail. All empires are tyrants and must lose. Europe has imitated the Greek Roman world, the most advanced cultures. Christianity especially takes many models used by Roman and Greek paganism, Christianity has revised pagan models, pagan cults revisited by Christianity. sorry for english
Did you forget the pila. They sometimes used it as spears against cav. One Volley would decimate the front ranks of a cav charge and other infantry charges
Testudo is a versatile formation but not powerful. They were meant more for seige campaign and anti projectile advance. It's also vulnerable to heavy projectiles like spears, long bows and above. What made the Roman army so powerful were the Legions itself.
Anno 9 Chr. Varus!. Leg XVII, Leg XVIII, Leg XIX. Found her Death in the German Forest. "Battle of Teutoburger Wald" Heil Hermann the Cherusker. We have destroyed the "Imperium Romanum"
@@zulukirezulukire8405 The Romans lost in Teutoburg for an ambush. go to study history, the history books. Rome returned to Germany but Tiberius blocked Germanicus in the conquest of Germany Search on google Germanicus Wiki. An extract: "While Germanicus enjoyed some success in his campaigns against Arminius and his allies, Tiberius decided not to attempt to conquer the Germans and recalled Germanicus to Rome. The effort it would have taken to conquer Germania Magna was deemed too great when compared with the low potential for profit from acquiring the new territory. Rome regarded Germany as a wild territory of forests and swamps, with little wealth compared to territories Rome already had. However, the campaign significantly healed the Roman psychological trauma from the Varus disaster, and greatly recovered Roman prestige. In addition to the recovery of two of the three lost eagles, Germanicus had fought Arminius, the leader who destroyed the three Roman legions in 9 AD, and defeated him in numerous battles. In leading his troops across the Rhine without recourse to Tiberius, he contradicted the advice of Augustus to keep that river as the boundary of the empire, and opened himself to potential doubts from Tiberius about his motives in taking such independent action. This error in political judgment gave Tiberius reason to controversially recall his nephew. Tacitus attributed the recall to Tiberius's jealousy of the glory Germanicus had acquired, and, with some bitterness, claims that Germanicus could have completed the conquest of Germania had he been given full operational independence." However it was right for everyone that the Roman Empire collapsed. All empires are overbearing and must fail. All empires are tyrants and must lose. Napoleon lost to an ambush, blitz, sudden attack, underestimated the Russians, the Russians feared Napoleon, the only way to beat Napoleon was to make a sudden attack, the Russians sacrificed the city Moscow. Go to study. sorry for english
The Romans employ Archers be hind the Infantry. The formation shown was keep the Troops safe from Arrows fire upon them and the Enemies. Gaius Julius Caesar, IV employ 20,000(+) Archers within the 8-10 Legions that he fought with;
A fighting machine, The Romans destroyed the Jewish revolt at Masada, they annihilated the Jewish population from Judea. Never to return until nearly 2000 years later.
The shields used by the two Roman empires had changed shape to ovular ones by the time Attila had arrived because people figured out a way of countering it.
The English Gentleman I could see that but great mobility and instinct of the hunt and most importantly key strategic movements in the field and Campaign is important to secure victory. Edit: and yes I know of the change in shields and formations.
The English Gentleman remember the Huns used whistling arrows, certain types of war-horn and scorch earth or fire to do what you said to destroy morale of others, My friend you know your history well stay safe and take care.
i dont understand y people think roman shields are half the size of your body its very clearly not the best idea to have whats ment to be a large sheild,a small little box aint gonna protect against projectile weoponry also whats up wth it being metal their sheilds were curved wood
Anno 9 Chr. Varus!. Leg IVII, Leg IVIII, Leg IXI. Found her Death in the German Forest. "Battle of Teutoburger Wald" Heil Hermann the Cherusker. We have destroyed the "Imperium Romanum"
@@zulukirezulukire8405 The Romans lost in Teutoburg for an ambush. go to study history, the history books. Rome returned to Germany but Tiberius blocked Germanicus in the conquest of Germany Search on google Germanicus Wiki. An extract: "While Germanicus enjoyed some success in his campaigns against Arminius and his allies, Tiberius decided not to attempt to conquer the Germans and recalled Germanicus to Rome. The effort it would have taken to conquer Germania Magna was deemed too great when compared with the low potential for profit from acquiring the new territory. Rome regarded Germany as a wild territory of forests and swamps, with little wealth compared to territories Rome already had. However, the campaign significantly healed the Roman psychological trauma from the Varus disaster, and greatly recovered Roman prestige. In addition to the recovery of two of the three lost eagles, Germanicus had fought Arminius, the leader who destroyed the three Roman legions in 9 AD, and defeated him in numerous battles. In leading his troops across the Rhine without recourse to Tiberius, he contradicted the advice of Augustus to keep that river as the boundary of the empire, and opened himself to potential doubts from Tiberius about his motives in taking such independent action. This error in political judgment gave Tiberius reason to controversially recall his nephew. Tacitus attributed the recall to Tiberius's jealousy of the glory Germanicus had acquired, and, with some bitterness, claims that Germanicus could have completed the conquest of Germania had he been given full operational independence." However it was right for everyone that the Roman Empire collapsed. All empires are overbearing and must fail. All empires are tyrants and must lose. Napoleon lost to an ambush, blitz, sudden attack, underestimated the Russians, the Russians feared Napoleon, the only way to beat Napoleon was to make a sudden attack, the Russians sacrificed the city Moscow. Go to study. sorry for english
Anno 9 Chr. Varus!. Leg XVII, Leg XVIII, Leg XIX. Found her Death in the German Forest. "Battle of Teutoburger Wald" Heil Hermann the Cherusker. We have destroyed the "Imperium Romanum"
"Hey...see how they can't move very fast in that turtle formation? What say we put some oil into breakable flasks, light them on fire like we do a lot anyways, and throw it on top of them? When the flaming oil drips down on the guys in the centre I'm pretty sure they're going to freak out and destroy the formation from within. Or should we just slam ourselves against the wall of shields they pride themselves at holding at all costs and each take a turn getting stabbed to death?" "I don't know...is this American cinema or real life?"
Gladiator. Excellent movie with Russell Crowe. I also recommend The Eagle, The Last Legion, Centurion, Pompeii. The old mini series Masada is also very good if you can find it. Enjoy.
The most accurate of these scenes was the third one, from Gladiator. The first scene was from Risen and the way they went into a loose formation to throw their pilum was completely inaccurate. That is a great way to lose trained, veteran soldiers. Plus, the fact that the captain took his helmet off was stupid, both from a movie standpoint and from a strategic standpoint. Why would you take the time to film that scene? He's going to take a projectile to the head. The second scene was nice, except for the fact that the testudo is designed for defense against projectiles. Furthermore, they never even needed testudo. No one is going to try to climb over a shield. That is a great way to get stabbed in the face.
Dude... this is all Hollywood. A testudo was only really used for protection from missiles during skirmishing portions of a battle or during a siege assault.
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Testudo was neither the best, nor most powerful roman military formation.
It was a defensive formation designed to protect against incoming projectiles such as arrows while being on the move.
It was not designed to be held for extended periods of time to attack, and extremely vulnerable to enemy charges, especially on the flanks.
So very easy to counter by any organized opponent
@@jackthunderbolt4307 Doesn't matter, testudo is not a fighting formation. Not against barbarians, not against other empires. It just doesn't work.
Romans marched in rows to allow flexibility and the allows peltasts to do their thing etc, when they made contact they had solid battle lines with a shield wall, no testudo, thats a highly impractical way of fighting and a very tiresome one
@@jackthunderbolt4307 they could still counter just shoot a Billy of arrows while charging Dead
@@jackthunderbolt4307 Even a "rabble" of "untrained" and ill-equipped barbarians didn't charge in like maniacs and had their own formations (shield wall, cuneus etc.).
Alan Lockwood no it wasn’t it could perfectly absorb charges because the shields were overlapped it was designed to absorb arrows and barbarians running at them but usually it wasn’t held so they could attack.
1:49 feels bad front corner guy
The commander would be wearing his helmet and would be inside the formation.
Mabye not inside, but still protected in the back
In this kind of formation, the centurion would stay in the back corner on the left flank
speaking only for gladiator scenes I was a decoy
making the cavaly attack more successful
Not 100% true, when it came to a city/ settlement becoming under siege the romans would vote for a leader to defend. Lots of generals/defence comanders where at the front of the lines..... not the best plan, only works if you're Alexander the great or lucky 😂
If you watch the full scene, he actually lost his helmet in combat. But yeah he’d either be inside or behind the formation.
Imagine training your whole life to fight the romans and you get mauled by some dudes dog
logan t ikr and the dog isn’t even accurate it a freakin German Shepard 😂
This isn't a formation at all, Testudo was used to prevent the cohorts being destroyed from missile fire (complete waste of a legionnaire to die in a skirmish) the greatest Roman formation was the Triplex Acies
Exately man
Aslo it's genius the fact that after like 3/4 minutes of fighting the first line of soldiers exchange with the second one and so on, so that the first line was never too tired
@@amedeoceccato7190 True, although the Triplex Acies had huge gaps in between units, enemies may have seeped through them, but they sacrificed that for manueverability.
@@polyroach2281 and thats the great thing about the triplex acies, these gaps not only allow manueverbility and flexibility through rough terrain but as well replinishment. When the first line of skirmish they retreat through the gaps, when the first line retreat they retreat through the gaps while being replaced by the second line that havent been block by the second thus they go in constant speed
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And a good thing about that is that the first line usually has less experience, Hastati. The second has more, Principes. When the enemy has been worn doen by the Hastati, the Principes run in to replace them, and they are much fresher and experienced.
Maybe not the most historically accurate, but badass af
Decided to released this video after a great Rome Total War 2: DEI Roma campaign
total war es lo mejor
where is the first clip from????
Conflux Joseph Fiennes in 'Risen good film
Wayne Emery thank u!!
Wayne Emery thank u!!
The films are called Risen, The Eagle and Gladiator.
If you want to see REAL roman formations on screen, watch Rome first scene where they are in Alesia. Nothing can compare how good that show ilustrates roman fighting genius!
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My second favorite TV show of all time, maybe first.
Are they on RUclips?
Eee on Sphere it’s Rome by HBO, look up the scene (it’s the first scene) or just watch it online. Highly recommended
Though the testudo formation in Philippi is nicely done, those scuta act as if they’ve been bought from Poundland 😂😂
Julius Ceaser would have cringed so bad if he ever see this video.
i think he'd go: what is this magic a mirror that shows the past? show me who sired ceasarion!
cuz you were alive in the times of Julius ceaser and knew the guy.
squad4 joe hey bro, Julius Caesar from the past here, can confirm that I cringed
Julius Caeser was a psychopathic killer who slaughtered half of Gaul just to make himself popular in Rome.
@@rebelfriend1818 Blimey! I bet Julius Ceaser is smiling in his grave that he has at least one supporter of his barbaric crimes that were thought so back in Rome even at the time.
Agreed! Testudo was a formation defensive posture. It's just movie fell in love with it and use for every scene to look cool. Another inaccuracy is when movie scene show legionares swinging their short swords. They jabbed with it, and usually after the enemy swung first. Also they kept their shields in front of their torsos at all times, even when stabbing and jabbing.
Thanks for sharing. Looked into this after reading how it was uses to defeat zombies in the zombie audiobook, "Renee: St. Mary's Virus."
I dont understand what is meant by "most powerful & best" It's a defensive formation. The Romans employed many different formation depending on circumstances.
Probably because Hollywood loves to feature the testudo
One-eyed Owl it’s the most well known, and in pop culture often mistaken as a phalanx, although testudo was a type of phalanx formation as a phalanx as we know it has been used for millennia in Europe, it doesn’t require shields all it requires is soldiers be extremely close to each other to not allow enemies to enter through the front of the phalanx, the flanks are still open to attack but can be supplemented by other regiments like Hannibal did with the peltast and thureophoroi supplementing the hoplites flanks in a phalanx formation, along with the hoplites using the sarissa the Romans had a hard time to say the least conquering Carthage. While not the best, the phalanx was damn good at its job, and it was changed by different commanders and cultures to fit their needs.
3:21 The Pale Pass melts letting in the full Legion waiting behind it. The final battle of the War known as the Battle of Winterhold result:Imperial Victory
Army: what formation do we have other then testudo
General: the script only says sheild box,turtle formation,box with sheilds
Army:😔 thats just testudo
0:21 So we’re just gonna ignore how he dodged that arrow?
Guys i made some research about the truth of the use of tetsudo formation. Tbh tetsudo formation was first used by the spartans in greek, the romans just copied the tetusudo formation from the spartans, take a look back at the movie 300 at the tetsudo formation scene the spartans used it in the first place, the romans just copied them.
2:05 AYEEEYAAYAYAYAYA
Just a side note: Legio X Fretensis was not deployed to Judea before the first Roman-Jewish war of 66-73 AD, during the time of Jesus when the movie Risen was set, only auxiliary troops were their
1:50 bullcrap. A testudo would be completely useless against charging enemies.
not really, no it's not true.
In the video we are witnessing a frontal charge that takes place in a sprawling way by a group of light infantrymen. The impact area is limited to the front and the pressure exerted does not happen all at once.
At most, the failure of the testudo could occur due to a constant pressure given by the mass of the bodies that lean against each other, pressure which however is interrupted, because every time they approach, the enemies are injured, or killed.
The only way to get it to breaj would be the exhaustion of Roman soldiers, enemies unable to feel pain and fear that continue to pile up, an elephant charge.
An example of the effectiveness of testudo, although slightly modified, we have it in the wars of Marcus Antonius against the Parti where testudo is also used to resist the charge of heavy cavalry and if use to resist a charge of Cataphracts, can be used in the video of example considering that sprawling group.
The testudo seems a simple formation to break, but we look at it with the eyes of modern people without taking into account the effect it had on the morale of the enemy troops and without considering that if a blow hits you, you will not remain insensitive.
@@icksv5529 yea but they have gauls flanking them from every derection in less then ten seconds
they are almost blind and almost inmobile
this formation was almost only used for sieges to protect the soldiers from missile attacks
in open battle this was almost not done
and when it was used in open battle it was for specific reasons. for example the horse archers from parthia
Testudo and his variants were used every time their use was found to be useful.
If the enemy army was using projectiles (arrows, slingers, javelin etc) and the romans had to advance, testudo was used in disregard of siege or pitched battle.
Mentioning again Marcus Atnonius, and repeating myself testudo variant (moenia) was used to resist the charge of Cataphracts. They were not horse archers, but a hell of heavy cavalry.
What we see here it's a bunch of disorganized enemies. Some in the first line literally throw himself against the shields, which is stupid but realistic if we stay on the chronicles of that time, yet broad.
Beside the first ones who throw themselves on the shields, we have the ones who falls killed or wounded which simply create a cap between them and the fellows behind them. We don't see anyone drop his weapon and coordinate a push and the rest in the back lines for what we see can just stay around without pushing.
Moreover the shields surface help to distribute and dissipate the pressure force. Break that small testudo it's possible, with a strategy, I do not see any in the video.
The video does not shows us the most logic thing to do, hit the back of the testudo, so we have to assume that it's not happened.
The moment in which the video is debatable it's when testudo it's opened to create a circle around the prisoners. At this point, the eventual pressure would dissipate on a very small area and most likely, easier to break the only first line of romans, and yet it does't happen.
Why does not happen? Because it's just a movie? Maybe. Because of a tactical mistake or undisciplined soldiers? Can also be. For example:
The Carthaginians were a maritime power without a personal army. The armies of Hannibal and Hasdrubal were made up of mercenaries including the Gauls who were known to be unruly and drunkards.
In the Metatauro battle, Hasdrubal between the various ethnic groups of the infantry, he had the Gauls that deployed on the left side, usually the weakest, behind the hills in order to prevent them from being noticed by the Romans right because of their "peculiarities" and because he hoped that by climbing the hills, the Roman would got tired, balancing the gap.
When during the clash, the Romans manage to overcome Hasdrubal, they found the drunken Gauls and kill them all. I'm sure that if depicted in a movie, someone would have said "bullcrap" but the truth is that we are humans with strengths and weaknesses, moreover they were mercenaries and so fighting for money. ;)
@@icksv5529 All your toughts are interesting and brilliant, the only thing I have to contribute is that the legionaries are heavy infantry, not light.
Yes but I didn't say that, rather "a frontal charge that takes place in a sprawling way by a group of light infantrymen"
1:49 i cant stop watching the guy in the gold helmet lmaooo his head didnt get under the shield and then big man smashed into his ass
It was neither larger numbers nor better generals that made the Romans so successful, but the thorough training of the legionaries that made them invincible, as this video shows so well. When, in the Late Empire, the Western Empire forsook their well disciplined regulars in favor of barbarian mercenaries and foederati, the empire was DOOMED.
well there was also problem, that they didn't change the tactic of legionaries, it was still the same.
All the training didn't help Romans at Carrhae, they were butchered by a much smaller Parthian army.
Alexander the great '' I would not fear an army of lions led by a sheep, i'm afraid of any army of sheeps led by a lion.''
Brain always superseeds muscle, but you need both to win a battle!
@@KingExituS they were butchered because they had an idiot comander that led them in a trap and we mustn't forget that the parthian army was a good one and they had a good comander (its not very well written, but I speak Italian not English
@@KingExituS Who cares, defeats happen, it's not like to are always on Super Sayan modus. The Parthians where defeated several times and in time were forced to sign a peace threaty and return approx 30.000 ROman prisonars of war including coin for damage.
@@matyassiegel1732 No true, Romans were masters is using enemy skills, tools and tactics if these were better. Please share a source so that you can share your wisdome with us
4:51 me thinking my teammate is a not on my team
THE BEST ARMY OF THE WHOLE WESTERN CULTURE!!!!
Parthia may have a bone to pick with that since they defeated the Romans many times... oh... don't forget the Carthaginians handed Rome their asses many times too!
@@tubedude54 parthia lost that I know of 3 wars against Rome because Romans arent stupid they kept finding way to force the parthians to fight in hilly or mountainous terrain
@@tubedude54 and the Carthaginians never won a war against Rome
I don’t mean to rag on you, but I would’ve picked a different country than the one that had its capital razed to the foundation and its culture eliminated. Hannibal Barca handed Rome its ass a few times and deserves a ton of credit...but he also had around 10 years (estimating from memory) of being able to march around Italy practically unimpeded and somehow never got around to squaring up against the SPQR itself at Rome. Despite not knowing how to actually finish what he started, he was still brilliant to the point of it seeming like magic. I’ve never looked it up, but I’d bet that Hannibal beat Romans and allies more than the rest of his countrymen combined over 3 wars, but I could be wrong.
Anno 9 Chr. Varus!. Leg XVII, Leg XVIII, Leg XIX. Found her Death in the German Forest. "Battle of Teutoburger Wald" Heil Hermann the Cherusker. We have destroyed the "Imperium Romanum"
1:49
You see this, creativeassembly? @CAGames
Attack testudo can have sideway-shields.
They did it in rome 1
@@aamwahyudi4022 The form-up animation was also a lot cooler in Rome 1 (although it too a little longer).
ROMA INVICTA... The best powerful in the ancient world
Anno 9 Chr. Varus!. Leg XVII, Leg XVIII, Leg XIX. Found her Death in the German Forest. "Battle of Teutoburger Wald" Heil Hermann the Cherusker. We have destroyed the "Imperium Romanum"
@@zulukirezulukire8405 No destruyeron nada...
@@oscarberolla9910 Si,Si,Si Senor
Greatest empire ever
@@oscarberolla9910 In fact the Romans lost in Teutoburg for an ambush.
Rome returned to Germany but Tiberius blocked Germanicus in the conquest of Germany
Search on google Germanicus Wiki.
An extract:
"While Germanicus enjoyed some success in his campaigns against Arminius and his allies, Tiberius decided not to attempt to conquer the Germans and recalled Germanicus to Rome. The effort it would have taken to conquer Germania Magna was deemed too great when compared with the low potential for profit from acquiring the new territory. Rome regarded Germany as a wild territory of forests and swamps, with little wealth compared to territories Rome already had. However, the campaign significantly healed the Roman psychological trauma from the Varus disaster, and greatly recovered Roman prestige. In addition to the recovery of two of the three lost eagles, Germanicus had fought Arminius, the leader who destroyed the three Roman legions in 9 AD, and defeated him in numerous battles. In leading his troops across the Rhine without recourse to Tiberius, he contradicted the advice of Augustus to keep that river as the boundary of the empire, and opened himself to potential doubts from Tiberius about his motives in taking such independent action. This error in political judgment gave Tiberius reason to controversially recall his nephew. Tacitus attributed the recall to Tiberius's jealousy of the glory Germanicus had acquired, and, with some bitterness, claims that Germanicus could have completed the conquest of Germania had he been given full operational independence."
However it was right for everyone that the Roman Empire collapsed. All empires are overbearing and must fail. All empires are tyrants and must lose.
Napoleon lost to an ambush, blitz, sudden attack, underestimated the Russians, the Russians feared Napoleon, the only way to beat Napoleon was to make a sudden attack, the Russians sacrificed the city Moscow.
sorry for english
That Capt at the first clip so badass. Evades arrow like a boss and on top of that he's not even inside the tortoise formation
_Glaz Main_ badass but historically innacurate
One of the best insane use of testudo was never showed in a movie and it's described by Cassius Dio Cocceianus:
"The Romans resort to this formation in two cases: when they approach a fortress to conquer it [...]; or when, surrounded on all sides by enemy archers, they kneel at the same time, including horses that are trained to get on their knees or lie on the ground. so they make the enemy believe that they are exhausted and when the enemies come closer, they suddenly rise and annihilate them"
3:58 One of the few times it was used correctly.
0:03 Risen
1:00 The Eagle
3:21 Gladiator
Greek hoplite: Our Phalanx is the best formation on the battlefield!
Roman legionaire: Hold my beer...
Anno 9 Chr. Varus!. Leg XVII, Leg XVIII, Leg XIX. Found her Death in the German Forest. Heil Hermann the Cherusker
damm the comander is badass as fuck to be standing out in open like that
Another side note: the response of the Roman soldiers to the opening charge of Germanic warriors in movie Gladiator is completely wrong, the Roman will through their javelins vs the advancing enemy, not waiting them to reach the shield wall, the Roman Javelin called Pilum is designed as throwing weapon not as stabbing spear!
Another mistake almost universal to all media depicted the Roman army (except maybe for the Series Rome), is showing the Romans fight in open formation in one on one combat, this is a great mistake, the Roman never break the formation unless they are routed and fleeing!
Thing is how do you overlook that as a costume designer making things without knowing its function.
You are right except pilum can be used as a spear when situation allows but usually for throwing only because legion are trained as a more of a swordsman than spearmen. However, I can tell you pilum is also used as a pike (long spear) to deter cavalry charge and is used for hand-to-hand combat.
Zei Marc there were two types of the pilum both suitable for throwing, the short and the long, the Roman soldier usually was carrying two short pila, but in case they expect to face a force of cavalry; they will cary either two shorts and one long or one short and one long, the long can be used both as spear or javelin
For any one who is wandering the first part is from a christian movie called risen
Duration of Roman republic and empire speaks for itself. Some 500 years.
Roman Power started at 500 bc. And ended in 1453. 2000 years of glory
4:56 Ulfric Stormcloak falls in battle thus ending the Civil War and the Stormcloak Rebellion colorized 201st year of the 4th Era
4:00 no pila throwing?
The Testudo (Turtle) formation uses shields in front and on top versus missile weapons.
The other formations were just the normal closed-in shield walls. There should have been spearmen in the second rank to stab through the gaps in the shield from over the shoulders of the first rank. The Romans would have one or two javelins and/or pila (pilums) to throw at enemy in range before they reach the shield wall.
Centurions and legates could lose their distinctive helmets but there should be file closers (sergeants) to repeat and take up the commands and dress the ranks.
This is the most interesting part in this movie.💕👍👍❤️
They also managed to conduct electricity for the first time ever ✌
The Romans didn't conquer most of the known world for nothing.
they would have been slaughtered if they tried to invade han dynasty
sexypimpx9
We don’t know for sure
Romans, professional killers
No shit ?
Until the Huns came :)
Until Asians came hahha
@Japek34 When they came there was not Roman Empire.
After Constantino and the barbarization of troops, the quality and command was very poor. Also the level of emperators.
Conquer Rome was easy.
@@Jancek34 The ones that were erased from history and that not even Hungarians are fond of? The ones, that attacked the Germanic people and lost?
The best was the line where they could relieve each cohort after fighting for 15 minutes, thus putting fresh men into the fight each time when the enemy did n ot.
Testudo was used to get close to enemy fortifications and similar situations where the formation was very vunerable to attacks by missiles.
This formation gave birth to concept of military tanks
No.
The depiction of the testudo here is wildly off.
The testudo was a defensive formation against missile attacks only.
In close combat, offensive or defensive, it was useless.
The tank is the conceptual successor to the cavalry.
Movies never use the formation correctly.
At the command testudinem formate, the legionaries assumed the testudo (tortoise) formation. This was slow moving but almost impenetrable to enemy fire, and thus very effective during sieges and/or when facing off against enemy archers. However the testudo formation didn't allow for effective close combat and therefore it was used when the enemy were far enough away so as the legionaries could get into another formation before being attacked.
At the command tecombre, the legionaries would break the Testudo formation and revert to their previous formation.
Copy pasted from Wiki, but indeed accurate.
Why'd you leave the protection of the walls? Walls are used to put opponent into disadvantage forcing him to scale the walls/breach the gate therefore exposing him to stones, archers and other projectiles potentially costing him a lot of manpower
I like phalanx formation more....especially if you have cavalry detachments to outflank pinned down enemy units
Romanz literally beat them on almost every occasion
The Macedonian army then basically
They lost to the legions quiet badly.
The Romans didn't beat the phalanx with the testudo formation.
the Hollywood bullshit is strong here
Yep Especially the scene at 1:45
What wars the name of all the movies they look really great and i love to watch roman movies and learn about romans
INCREDIBILIS
Roman warrior only feared asterix and obelix 😂😂🤣🤣
@ Bruce Kent..... " Die Germanen"
........Alamannen
Burgunden
Franken
Goten
Langobarden
Markomannen
Sachsen
Thüringer
Vandalen Germanic people are a group of former tribes in Central Europe and southern Scandinavia whose identity in research is traditionally determined by language. Characteristics of the Germanic languages include certain phonetic changes compared to the reconstructed Indo-European original language, which are summarized as Germanic or first sound shift. The inhabited by the Germanic settlement area is referred to as Germania.
From the turn of the century, contact with the Romans shaped the Germanic world, just as the development of the Roman Empire increasingly combined with the Germanic world. In the Late Antiquity came in the course of migration to extensive tracts of several Germanic tribes (gentes), which formed some larger associations (see ethnogenesis), and finally to their invasion of the Roman Empire. Some of these groups founded empires after the ancient Roman model on the soil of the Western Empire, which went down around the year 476. Elements of the Germanic religion and religious customs were transferred, among other things, by accommodation into assumed Christianity.
They were not invasions but immigration.
There were barbarian invasions due to uncontrolled immigration, the Romans brought many poor peoples from northern Europe into Roman territory, immigrants suffering from hunger and attacked Rome, the Romans had made a mistake, they brought too many peoples of northern Europe.
The Greek Roman culture was much more advanced than the Germanic world.
The barbarians brought the Middle Ages, the Greek Roman world was reborn with the Italian Renaissance.
The barbarians with difficulty have resumed the Roman world, they have only imitated some laws and writings, and little else.
However it was right for everyone that the Roman Empire collapsed. All empires are overbearing and must fail. All empires are tyrants and must lose.
Europe has imitated the Greek Roman world, the most advanced cultures.
Christianity especially takes many models used by Roman and Greek paganism, Christianity has revised pagan models, pagan cults revisited by Christianity.
sorry for english
It's like a walking tank, with swords and spears instead of guns and cannons.
No spears bro, only sword
Did you forget the pila. They sometimes used it as spears against cav. One Volley would decimate the front ranks of a cav charge and other infantry charges
But not in turtle formation
Testudo rather
Actually it would be really bad for fighting as it was very easy to flank
Testudo is a versatile formation but not powerful. They were meant more for seige campaign and anti projectile advance. It's also vulnerable to heavy projectiles like spears, long bows and above.
What made the Roman army so powerful were the Legions itself.
ROMA INVICTA!!!! 🇮🇹 🇮🇹
Aeternaaaa! 🙋♂️
Just an Hollywood point of view !
Testudo formation doesnt make a cohort a tank. Its just a mobile projectile shield. Once melee starts, they break formation and assume line formation
The Romans' impact cannot be understated.
Anno 9 Chr. Varus!. Leg XVII, Leg XVIII, Leg XIX. Found her Death in the German Forest. "Battle of Teutoburger Wald" Heil Hermann the Cherusker. We have destroyed the "Imperium Romanum"
@@zulukirezulukire8405 The Romans lost in Teutoburg for an ambush. go to study history, the history books.
Rome returned to Germany but Tiberius blocked Germanicus in the conquest of Germany
Search on google Germanicus Wiki.
An extract:
"While Germanicus enjoyed some success in his campaigns against Arminius and his allies, Tiberius decided not to attempt to conquer the Germans and recalled Germanicus to Rome. The effort it would have taken to conquer Germania Magna was deemed too great when compared with the low potential for profit from acquiring the new territory. Rome regarded Germany as a wild territory of forests and swamps, with little wealth compared to territories Rome already had. However, the campaign significantly healed the Roman psychological trauma from the Varus disaster, and greatly recovered Roman prestige. In addition to the recovery of two of the three lost eagles, Germanicus had fought Arminius, the leader who destroyed the three Roman legions in 9 AD, and defeated him in numerous battles. In leading his troops across the Rhine without recourse to Tiberius, he contradicted the advice of Augustus to keep that river as the boundary of the empire, and opened himself to potential doubts from Tiberius about his motives in taking such independent action. This error in political judgment gave Tiberius reason to controversially recall his nephew. Tacitus attributed the recall to Tiberius's jealousy of the glory Germanicus had acquired, and, with some bitterness, claims that Germanicus could have completed the conquest of Germania had he been given full operational independence."
However it was right for everyone that the Roman Empire collapsed. All empires are overbearing and must fail. All empires are tyrants and must lose.
Napoleon lost to an ambush, blitz, sudden attack, underestimated the Russians, the Russians feared Napoleon, the only way to beat Napoleon was to make a sudden attack, the Russians sacrificed the city Moscow. Go to study.
sorry for english
Needs more Wilhelm scream.
The Romans employ Archers be hind the Infantry. The formation shown was keep the Troops safe from Arrows fire upon them and the Enemies. Gaius Julius Caesar, IV employ 20,000(+) Archers within the 8-10 Legions that he fought with;
It would be nice if the names of the movies were included
A fighting machine, The Romans destroyed the Jewish revolt at Masada, they annihilated the Jewish population from Judea. Never to return until nearly 2000 years later.
What was the movie they came out the fort to attack ?
It has its up and downs but Attila’s Elite Hunnic Horse Archers and Cantaphract Lancers will do well against them.
The shields used by the two Roman empires had changed shape to ovular ones by the time Attila had arrived because people figured out a way of countering it.
The English Gentleman I could see that but great mobility and instinct of the hunt and most importantly key strategic movements in the field and Campaign is important to secure victory.
Edit: and yes I know of the change in shields and formations.
@@jacobxiongnu2931 undoubtedly the Huns use of horse archers in particular caused chaos, especially to Roman Heavy Cavalry.
The English Gentleman remember the Huns used whistling arrows, certain types of war-horn and scorch earth or fire to do what you said to destroy morale of others, My friend you know your history well stay safe and take care.
i dont understand y people think roman shields are half the size of your body its very clearly not the best idea to have whats ment to be a large sheild,a small little box aint gonna protect against projectile weoponry also whats up wth it being metal their sheilds were curved wood
The best of the best, Imperium Romanum!
Anno 9 Chr. Varus!. Leg IVII, Leg IVIII, Leg IXI. Found her Death in the German Forest. "Battle of Teutoburger Wald" Heil Hermann the Cherusker. We have destroyed the "Imperium Romanum"
@@zulukirezulukire8405 The Romans lost in Teutoburg for an ambush. go to study history, the history books.
Rome returned to Germany but Tiberius blocked Germanicus in the conquest of Germany
Search on google Germanicus Wiki.
An extract:
"While Germanicus enjoyed some success in his campaigns against Arminius and his allies, Tiberius decided not to attempt to conquer the Germans and recalled Germanicus to Rome. The effort it would have taken to conquer Germania Magna was deemed too great when compared with the low potential for profit from acquiring the new territory. Rome regarded Germany as a wild territory of forests and swamps, with little wealth compared to territories Rome already had. However, the campaign significantly healed the Roman psychological trauma from the Varus disaster, and greatly recovered Roman prestige. In addition to the recovery of two of the three lost eagles, Germanicus had fought Arminius, the leader who destroyed the three Roman legions in 9 AD, and defeated him in numerous battles. In leading his troops across the Rhine without recourse to Tiberius, he contradicted the advice of Augustus to keep that river as the boundary of the empire, and opened himself to potential doubts from Tiberius about his motives in taking such independent action. This error in political judgment gave Tiberius reason to controversially recall his nephew. Tacitus attributed the recall to Tiberius's jealousy of the glory Germanicus had acquired, and, with some bitterness, claims that Germanicus could have completed the conquest of Germania had he been given full operational independence."
However it was right for everyone that the Roman Empire collapsed. All empires are overbearing and must fail. All empires are tyrants and must lose.
Napoleon lost to an ambush, blitz, sudden attack, underestimated the Russians, the Russians feared Napoleon, the only way to beat Napoleon was to make a sudden attack, the Russians sacrificed the city Moscow. Go to study.
sorry for english
Why the shields up formation?
I see no missiles flying.
Lorica segmentem was not used during the time of christ
Um yes it actually was, Battle of Tuetoburg Forest was 9 AD and lots of lorica segmentata has been found at the battle site.
Who is here after listening to or reading the zombie book, "Renee: St. Mary's Virus?"
What's the name of the first movie?
what is movie name in the third video ?
A great formation... unless you are fighting de parthians
Yes, the parthisns were tough and good warriors.
finally some one with history behind there bluster ... ( see my post )
Anno 9 Chr. Varus!. Leg XVII, Leg XVIII, Leg XIX. Found her Death in the German Forest. "Battle of Teutoburger Wald" Heil Hermann the Cherusker. We have destroyed the "Imperium Romanum"
Wow that's how they nearly conquered the whole world
No, no it's not
This is dumb
"Hey...see how they can't move very fast in that turtle formation? What say we put some oil into breakable flasks, light them on fire like we do a lot anyways, and throw it on top of them? When the flaming oil drips down on the guys in the centre I'm pretty sure they're going to freak out and destroy the formation from within. Or should we just slam ourselves against the wall of shields they pride themselves at holding at all costs and each take a turn getting stabbed to death?"
"I don't know...is this American cinema or real life?"
They we're unstoppable
brother, what song tittle @closing??
i now know why it was called the roman army ''machine'' it really was a machine
Which films are they?
4:55 look at all the backstabbing pussie ass fucking bitches...
how far you'll march for ROME?
Channing Tatum as Roman Legionary? Which movie is that?
The movie is called "The Eagle" the beginning of the movie is the best in my opinion though its not a bad watch.
What is the movie in the last scene?
The Gladiator
Gladiator. Excellent movie with Russell Crowe. I also recommend The Eagle, The Last Legion, Centurion, Pompeii. The old mini series Masada is also very good if you can find it. Enjoy.
Gladiator!
“Gladiator” I believe.
Maximus Decimus Meridius
Doesn't Testudo mean tortoise in Latin?
Yes
@@PeterHarremoes thanks.
The shields are too short and don't cover enough of the legionnaire ....you get the point though ......SPQR rules OK
"into ladder"
*"into ladder"*
wtf?
This is the only formation that the Romans used ? Because it's the only one that's ever seen in films
...with only commands shouted in films being "TEEESTUUUUDOOO" and "HOLD THE LINES"...that usually a high point of Hollywood tactics .-)
I guess I've been born in wrong year, worse been born to be a gaul
2:24 wat movie is that from
That is from 2011's "The Eagle" starring Channing Tatum
What movie is the 1st and 2nd scene from??
1st movie: (no idea, maybe a History Channel special)
2nd movie: The Eagle
I'm pretty sure the second movie is the gladiator and the first movie is the eagle
First scene is from the new Ben hur I think
SoundedTuna628 second one is definitely The Eagle
1st no clue
2nd the eagle
3rd gladiator
The most accurate of these scenes was the third one, from Gladiator. The first scene was from Risen and the way they went into a loose formation to throw their pilum was completely inaccurate. That is a great way to lose trained, veteran soldiers. Plus, the fact that the captain took his helmet off was stupid, both from a movie standpoint and from a strategic standpoint. Why would you take the time to film that scene? He's going to take a projectile to the head. The second scene was nice, except for the fact that the testudo is designed for defense against projectiles. Furthermore, they never even needed testudo. No one is going to try to climb over a shield. That is a great way to get stabbed in the face.
What 2 film ?
is that magic mike. he can trip em to death in style
Dude... this is all Hollywood. A testudo was only really used for protection from missiles during skirmishing portions of a battle or during a siege assault.
I’d be spearing me some Roman feet and legs instead of jumping on top.... hard to fight if you can’t walk!!!!
My thought also but didn't they have a metallic shin guard?
What is this movie?
0:39 instant bridge.
The Roman Legion's most powerful and best formation and their american accents.
Name of movie