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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- A review of the new low cost $38 ANENG Q1 Multimeter
How does it compare with the $25 AN8008?
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Knobs on multimeters just work. You never have to wonder what mode you're in and it's a big solid mechanical device that rarely fails. These are two qualities I appreciate when working with something that can kill me if I touch it wrong during high voltage tests.
You're putting a lot of trust in a fraction of a millimeter of doped silicone when the switching is all done by IC from buttons.
I have a different one that uses normal physical push buttons. It's also good but the always on continuity for
The advantage of buttons is you can use them one handed. Sometimes useful when I have one of my hands taped to my back when working on high voltage tube amps
One important point about the rotary switches: quick visual confirmation of the selected measurement when troubleshooting things.
I personally don't mind the 50 hour battery life at all, batteries now a days are dirt cheap. Given its impressive features, it appears to be a very good meter.
and with rotary switch gone, you can switch functions with your thumb while holding it, very handy in certain situations
I know this display probably doesn't look as good in person, but it's actually spectacular onscreen /on camera. Great for indoor viewing, shit for outdoors.
I use this multimeter for everything and it works great after replacing the probes. The two pairs included from factory are a joke.
I love the display, redeable from really far away, specially at night. Never had a multimeter with always on backlight before, but I couldn't live without it again.
The only thing I hate about it is the auto poweroff function, that you have to disable every time you power it up by holding Range and Power On. When repairing logic boards it's bad that it shuts down every few minutes if you don't remember to do that.
It's true it drains batteries really fast tho, I added a DC jack on the back to plug it on the wall while on the bench.
I don't know if they changed something in the firmware, but mine does beep like crazy when you have probes connected in the Amps plug and you're not on the Amps mode to warn you
what's wrong with the factory probes? I'm using those and never had a problem
@@Tremor244 You can make very poor contact with those, and +.25 ohms resistance from the leads alone. Get good quality Fluke probes and you'll notice the difference. It might not be necessary for some people, but I need the accuracy in the resistance reading. With factory probes, even if you zero it out, it will still fluctuate.
Also, diode mode beep goes from being very unresponsive to being very fast. Just hitting the probes really quick and it will beep every time.
The “VA” display likely refers to the type of LCD technology used, “VA” stands for “vertical alignment” and it is somewhere between IPS and TN in specs, still a crap meter though especially when compared to the AN8008.
I agree that it's likely Vertically Aligned LCD, but bragging about having VA over TN or STN is fairly trivial, and very few prospective customers would understand that distinction anyway.
I don't have a clue what that means!
VA _can_ do higher brightness, but we're not really pulling that out here properly. What _could_ be relevant for a meter, is the significantly superior viewing angles with VA (vs TN).
Sure it's not "Volt-Ampere" though?
It’s massive improvement of video quality, very clear speech
1 year same batteries. I use it almost every day. Love the display!! Also never ever go outside to do electrical. My 3rd meter and this is by far my fav!
I got one, and LOVE IT. Love the inverted display, love the battery standard.
So you're constantly throwing away batteries or can you run it on rechargables?
@@AHaensel Alkaline can be recharged too duh and this meter last years with same batteries, bought in 2018
Great review Dave. I was choosing a cheap DMM just for low voltage testing and as a second or third meter. The DMM's I was thinking of buying was an AN8008, AN8009 or a Q1. After watching this review the Q1 has to go. The decision was an AN8008 as I prefer the square wave output over the NCV ( I have never seen this feature on a pocket sized DMM ). I already have the AN870 which has NCV and is extremely accurate on all ranges comparing to the more expensive alternatives.
In summary, if your doing low voltage / low amp tests with good accuracy, these cheap arse pocket sized meters are definitely worth their bang for buck.
EBTN Display on the UNI-T 139S is definitely superior. I did a short follow-up video to my initial review and was quite pleased with final outcome. No dimming or blackouts on the UT139S!
Oh man Dave beat me to it once again. Those who watch my channel regularly know I have a very slow postal service here in Romania. I even ordered from the Aneng aliexpress official shop hoping I would get it faster than ordering from Banggood, but nope, my Q1 is still not here. Awesome review!
VoltLog DHL?
DHL is even worse because the package will take 3 days to arrive in Romania but it will then be stuck for 2-3 weeks until they bother to get the customs clearance. On top of that they will charge you $30 for doing the customs clearance work. I am staying away from them as much as possible.
....... Mate, your reviews are worth waiting for. I only subscribe to cool people.
I was curious, what would you estimate your sub increase after guest exposure on this channel ?
..... not important,
Woow... Sounds exactly as here in Denmark, just that customs will take at least 3 - 4 weeks here, and if you are "lucky" the postal service will loose your package on the last leg from the custom center to your mailbox ;-)
Voltlog Still looking forward to your review when the meter turns up. It is a shame that postage is so shite in your region.
i like negative displays.
LCD darkmode.
It's neat but OLED would look much sharper
@@ianmelzer i used to mod my calculators to have negative displays :p
Battery hungry!
@@stephanc7192 just because of the backlight
I got one in the mail on Tuesday, perfectly usable with rechargeable AA's and the display is super readable from a distance. Certainly has its uses. Didn't buy as a main meter, just like collecting them.
You're like me so.. can never have enough multimeters🤣
This is my main multimeter these days, except it's branded as a RichMeters 409B (also bought off of Aliexpress), the idea of a backlit inverted display was the main selling point for me as I keep it in the dark corner of my work surface (not under the desk lamp), and to be honest, I haven't had any issues with it personally, then again I mainly use it for checking voltages and continuity, resistance and capacitance as a secondary measure, and amperage if all else fails, you know the stuff you need when you need to find out what's broken and how it came to be in such a state.
Best video on this topic on RUclips. Thanks for publishing.
I like the reverse displays. I used a Milwaukee meter with a reverse display for a few years in my repair business, and appreciated the fact that it was easier to see in low light, plus it also look cooler than the standard LCD screen that you’ve seen on every cheap watch since the 80s. I had no issues with battery life as I never really had to leave the meter running for extended periods of time, and I never really had any reason to use the meter in direct sunlight. It was slow to light up when cold though, I don’t know if that is inherent to the display. I always had a back up meter either way, but that was its only flaw for me.
If backlight is bright enought, this not same meter. I quess you working only inside of building.
The VA display at 15:35 probably refers that it's using a VA panel for the lcd.
With a little step up/down converter 1,8-5V to 3,3V for a few cents it works perfect and uses every battery efficient. I love this Q1 multimeter, best design i ever saw 🥰
Did the same. Have rechargeable batteries in it, uses now for a year without recharging.
The Q10 fixed a lot of the points mentioned in this review.
VA = Vertical Alignement, It's the lcd panel type, like IPS or TN lcd panels.
Plus, if your meter lives in a toolbox with other tools, it is easy for a tool to press down on the power button, and be constantly turning the meter on and of during transport. That happens far less with the rotary switches, like fluke has.
some tip sir dave on video recordings, set your iso as lower as possible, if it can go zero then start at it to minimize grains, then work for the shutter speed, then lastly, work in your lightings.
Watched in 1080p. Sharper image quality and colours. Though not hugely different than the old camera. I give it a thumbs up. The Mailbag will probably look even nicer now :D
Try it at 4k, even on 1080P display there is a difference. Fast internet required though
That's why I'm downloading the video, my Internet connection is horrible for 4K. 8 Mb/s downlink (and 1 Mb/s uplink...). Here we're stuck with ADSL2+, with 41.5 dB attenuation. That should correspond to 3 km from the exchange, but I bet it's actually closer and it's really bad cables. And that's quite good. Some people only have 1 Mb/s downlink! We're leaders in fibre optic in the EU, but even then, the average speed is pretty low because fibre optic is still only in cities and DSL lines are unmaintained. Not even the big town at just 10 km from the city where I live is significantly covered... Though that should change in 2 years time according to the Economy and Business Ministry.
It's definitely sharper picture with 4k when using a 1080p monitor.
The reason people will buy this is to make use of thier batterisers! :D
kruppin Oddly, this is kind-of a good use case.
Came here to say that but you beat me to it!
Ha! Buying a product so you can use your dodgy battery sleeves! Nice... not!
it measured everything right and under-overshoot where Fluke would 100 times out of 100.
Superbe video quality Dave. We can now replicate your fingerprints.
I think that display looks really slick! Very futuristic, and much better contrast on camera. The display on my an8008 is not as good & contrasty compared to the one in your video anyway, so I think it'd be a big improvement. Unfortunately the battery drain combined with the need for relay switching makes this meter much less practical! Thx for the review.
I still think the 8009(the fixed-up 8008 for the same price) is the best budget meter ive ever seen (so far), it does everything *so* 'well enough', that the only trouble you start having with it, is when you get to situations that genuinly require much more specialised gear that you absolutly accept should cost significantly more. also a really cool thing is that there is a header inside that you can use to mod in a serial interface, and use that for things like microcontroller/ computer/ etc: logging and display of data and also for like production work where you dont have a massive expensive test machine to go over all test points, to check resistances and continuity etc as a first qc step after pcb assembly or refurb/ maint, where instead you can have a programmed list that you can have a worker(yourself) manualy run down the points while the data is being logged. the point being that this is somethign that exists on that dog cheap meter that really shouldnt for the price being asked for it, and the design of it and cost of manufacture really is way more generous and offers so much, that things like the header for communication or even potentially firmware updates/ additions(customization), can only be there on purpose as a deliberate offering, sort of thing..(ie even more greater for hobbyists/ students, freelancers/ small proffessionals etc, since things like that are something that the kind of people more likely to buy that meter, are also more likely to be the kind of people to find and make use of features and design choices like that, which is beneficial in multiple ways imo)
still, i have to say that apart from any obvious general criticism and desire for improved specs on everything, the really big fail is that it uses 2xAAA batteries, instead of anything larger or rechargeable despite the massive space in the back. and the expense they went to with brass inserts for the battery cavity (despite it being so small), shows they wernt focused on purely cheaping out. so they could have made the case able to take AAs, and if they filled that enourmous space with even just a charge module for the option to use your own lipo packs/cells (you know to keep sale costs down by not including rechargable batteries/ lipo pack etc, but have the option there to add it in later). though it makes a good chance to start a mod project for adding your own charge circuitry/ module and lipo cells etc and etc, since there really is so much space in there, and the plastic is good quality and molded well, so its much more easy and fun to add clean sockets and features without ruining it.
A useful test is accuracy vs. power supply voltage. Put in your 10k calibrated resistance, and then see if the reading changes as you vary the meter's supply voltage. I've found that my cheap meters' readings vary with power supply.
Proud to be watching this video in 480p at RUclips's discretion. It's entirely sufficient. :)
Loved your video! Trying to see if this was a good brand, you gave a very genuine and refreshing opinion. Cheers.
I really like the inverse displays, as a mechanic I'm usually under a truck, or a hood when using them, also good when outside. The only down side is it chews batteries
That's weird, it shouldn't draw any extra current at all. You can make any LCD display inverse like that by just flipping the polarizer sheet in front of the display over.
@@John_Ridley It's because of the permanent backlight.
I have a couple of really expensive multimeters that I actually can't use in my attic because of the screen, the screen on this thing is amazing, the one that I got also has Bluetooth which I never thought would be useful but it actually has been extremely useful as I've been chasing down weird wiring in my house.
I don't know, I quite like it. The battery issue isn't much of an issue to me, use some Energizer ultimate lithiums and the voltage will stay above 3v until it's truly flat.
I have a Fluke 189 for many years. I love everything but except one thing. The rotary switch finally broke and I had to make my own.
I wish Fluke would have built an option to turn it on and off the meter by just pushing a soft switch, so the rotary switch would be kept where it was left.
Why wouldn't they think of that?
Nope, the marketing division won't like your idea, the easier we break our tool the easier they offer us the new one to make profit :)
This thing must be from the developers of the Batteriser. Because it’s one of those rare products where using a pop on voltage booster makes sense. You would be able to read the display all the time and when it cuts of it won’t do any wrong readings. You just don’t have a low batt warning but equipped with normal AAs you can’t read it either so.....
Good timing on this. Was looking for a new DMM to replace my Tenma 72-7720 and ended up getting your BM235 😀 just waiting for delivery
Well. Working on concerts so in dark environment I prefer this screen by far. Just depend for what you use it.
Weird, I kinda like the look of the inverted LCD.. I must be some kind of heathen
I'd like that on a bench meter or something, where sunlight and battery life aren't an issue
Thanks for another down to earth review. I bet Aneng are gonna be sorry they didn't listen to the last review. Perhaps if they listen to both they might produce the ultimate home electronics meter.
Fantastic video and sound quality, even with a 1080p monitor!
The main point is that
They probably can't
Remember they are one of the Chinese producers isolated from YT
Thanks mate, you just saved me US$39. I'll stick to the UT61.
K Khalifah, Yes, UT61 is still the best.
this multimeter looks perfect for use with the batteriser with that 1,2v low per cell display light drop :))) ;
guess no rechargable batteries :)
It does look better even in 1080p, the colors are nice it's quite crisp. Love it.
I realize it's personal preference, but I absolutely love that new screen, and the very high (apparent) contrast. It looks better with a reflection on top of it, too.
Edit: Just saw it when he had it outside. :(
Would look much better if the backlight can be turned off outdoor
@@daijoubu4529 if you turn off the backlight the screen wouldn't show anything...
Looks fantastic in 4K.
Flung it over to my LG 4K TV using my Chromecast, and also tried it on my laptop, it is much better quality, will be great for the detailed work you do, but Dave, your desk looks horrible in 4K, maybe time to invest in a backdrop?
p.s. I recently cleaned out ESD bench using some kitchen cleaner (w/bleach) and then after it dried I used Isopropyl Alcohol and sticker removal spray where there was stick residue from tape. I was find but be careful as this can produce Chloroform if the chemicals mix.
Actually it's only 3.84K.
it's not in 4k, if it was you could set the quality to o4k, but it maxes out at 1080p. On my 5k iMac, it looks just the same it did before the "4k"
Ozzie Peck I can choose 4k on my PC.
Batteries are waisted after 2 weeks in stand-by. I had a multimeter that one 9V battery lasted for several years!
Ive had one in my tool box for emergency work at night and the battery's are still ok 18 months later no issues
Have my 1977 Realistic micrometer that STILL works and is accurate. Love it
9:00 The new Aneng multimeter is brought to you by BATTERISER .D :D
I was thinking the same thing when he was testing the drop out voltage. Finally a decent use for the batteriser. I wonder if it could provide the necessary current when the batteries drop down to about 1.3v each. Actually, I think the answer to that question exists in one of the batteriser videos Dave did but I would have to go back and watch them again.
There goes the idea of using NiMHs with 1.2 V nominal...
@90msg90 Unless you have...... BATTERISER! hey dave please make a video of this with the batteriser so they get some good pr and sell their amazing product XD
I bought it specifically due to buttons. Display is ok for my taste after 2 years of work, despite still having original batteries. So in the end I like it. They could have gone with red LED illumination to help with battery threshold... Maybe it will be an interesting mod...
Dave - The 8009 is a bit better yet than the 8008, they replaced the square wave with temp and added NCV - but alas they still havent fixed the range issues you mention.
EEV should be getting royalties if his reviews are helping them sell these. Only fair.
Thanks for reviewing this meter. I was looking to get a cheap one but I hate when I'm stuck because the battery is dead. In my county Chauvin Arnoux is also a very good brand.
Your video is crystal clear with the 4k camera. This is a good review on the product, I was nearly wanted to buy it. It is not worth it , As your advise, I will stick to my present AN8008. Thank you
No more 50/60fps option now that you do 4k? I liked the fluidness of the high fps video
He should have bought a Panasonic GH5 instead, nobody buys videcameras except the high end Sony FX6 , FX9 etc
My AN8008 came with leads that lose connection at the meter half the time. Other leads work fine. Other than that, it's got great quick update, is nice and compact, and looks good.
Camera result is perfect
Hi,
You will find the 10mA range at the uA input, (at least at my Richmeters 409B wich look the same as the ANENG Q1).
The uA input has two ranges: 9999uA, and 99,99mA.
Regards.
He just wants to bash any other multimeter but his to boost his sales. Very typical for him!
This guy sponsored by FLUKE :D
I can forgive most of the shortcomings for the price, but not the poor battery usage (permanent backlight and high cut-out voltage).
I think this meter is just a ploy to try sell more Batteroo Batterisers :)
Batteroo is still around? :->
Use lithium AAA battery.
For people considering the Q1 just for the push buttons, also look at the Aneng AN113B, which has a normal screen instead of that power-hungry inverse display. It has a lesser 6000 counts, possibly other differences.
it would be a awesome multimeter if you put lipo batteries inside it and make it rechargeable
it would be awesome meter if you hotglue laptop battey and stepdown converter
It could be a useless multimeter in 5 years time when the lithium battery no longer retains a decent charge and it's easier to dump it than find a suitable replacement battery.
exactly what I was thinking. I have 6 of the 8008's and tried to install an 18650... of course they don't fit, but the meter will run at 4.2V unaffected. Made no difference that I could see on any of the measurements. @ Dave, will this one run at 4.2?
Oh, And the 4k looks cracka!!
But you can just byt other multimeter, drop 2xAA, and forgot that they exist for years.
I have a few meters kicking around that are over 20 years old and still working great. Any quality meter, even if it is a bit inexpensive should last decades.
I have it as a one of my backups. The probes are garbage but I have replacements. I'd never mess with mains with it though.
Now we know why that auto power-off time was so short...
So when you finally upgraded the video quality to 4K, I'm only able to watch it in 144P. On a small island in the Baltic Sea with expensive wifi. But it looks fantastic in pixelvision! :)
When I think about the meters I started with nearly 40 years ago it’s amazing the progress. Looks like even the cheap meters on the market today do everything the average electronics engineer will ever need out the box. Makes me think you need very special usage case to pay high end brand money or be equipment fan boy. Unfortunately I am fan boy and my next meter will alway be another fluke.
use it with a batterizer, the display should work then
The only product i've seen that might benefit from the baterizer as long as the baterizer doesn't waste the unused energy with its own efficiency losses. Once batteriser sees this it'll be the flagship for the baterizer 2.0.
Use lithium AAA battery.
@@lionhong89 Have you tried? I don't imagine the meter would be very fond of bumping the supply voltage up to 7.2-8.2 volts...
@@pr0xZen huh? These batteries have a peak voltage of about 1.8V, times 3 thats a maximum of 5.4 Volts. This Voltage also decreases under load. I dont think there would be any problem using lithium AAA's.
@@sneedmyseedsnogger Lithium "AAA" batteries are 3.7-4.15V.
Watched it on 1080p. Really nice and sharp picture.
gotta agree...the 4K stream looks better than the 1080p version on a 1080p monitor...we can now steal ya finger prints the detail is so good!
your new camera is showing pretty well. the hairs on the mm display are showing. if you open the multi meter you can probably just flip the polarized filter film.
So powering this with Ni-MH will be a lot of fun.
In terms of something more useful, I've seen that Aneng accessory packet before. Have a good look inside the small screw-on croc clips before you use them. Underneath the squidgy red and black plastic the clips themselves appear to be welded to the upstream screw-on terminals using little more than hopes and prayers. In my instance they were connected with rust.
Assembly by children in a locked Chinese bathroom can do that.
They should have used an OLED. Any drop-in replacements? I like black screens inside on the bench
Piet Muijs doubt it. That's a custom lcd so a generic oled isn't going to work without some serious middle man action.
Do R/C! And that will cost you your amps as well... Probably have to run an extra micro to do that... Nothing beats a plane lcd with optional backlight!
You can peel off the polarizer and put a new one on at 90 degrees to the old one and it'll make it a black on white.
Dang I thought it was an OLED at first glance. That inverted display is stark.
They should have used Nixie tubes.
Bought the successor Q10 last week. Should be shipped in the next couple of days. You can just use lithium instead of alkaline batteries btw.
Nice quality at 1080, better than before
Short power off is probably because the backlight is always on. I get that they are trying to cash in on the oled look but there are nothing but disadvantages to that display setup.
15:26 VA means Vertical alignment display. It is just a display technology like twisted numatic (TN) and In Plane Switching (IPS). It is just a lcd display technology and having a va display in a multimeter is pretty good. It is a mid range display and comes between TN and IPS where TN is the cheapest and the crapiest and the IPS is the more expensive display with great viewing angles. HOPE THIS HELPS
Thank you again for video. The video quality is very good even in 1080 mode what I usually use.
Looks great on my 5" phone screen. And according to the TV-ad I just got here, with a split-screen demo in it, it turns out my old phone screen can show HDR 😂
Well I was thinking maybe running it on NiMH batteries would be a good idea considering the current draw of that display. But given their lower voltage would make them very unpractical with that display brightness at reduced voltage.
15:20 They mean "VA display" as in, it's a VA type LCD panel or "vertical alignment" LCD. As apposed to IPS or TN displays.
I like the permanently light display for automotive jobs. Usually its not that brigt inside car or in engine bay. I have bought this meter for that. Hated pressing the backlight button when meassuring difficult places inside the car
Havent needed to change batteries for it over 3 monts
I got a keysight U1232A, current ranges are also limited: 60uA, 600uA, 6A and 10A. Love the serial port, though.
Hi Dave,
I previously posted and deleted a comment lamenting the fact that your 4K workflow wasn't being presented properly on RUclips. That was my mistake. I had installed a browser extension that forced videos to render using the guts of my graphics card, which in turn disabled 4K viewing.
Hello?! McFly???
Sorry about that.
-Chris
OK, thanks for the excellent explanation and careful clarification. I noticed your dissatisfaction with the Q1 9999 measurement. If you want to send the device to me, I'm ready for that. I hope you will answer me with your opinion, my dear Professor.
We need a teardown of that advantest R6142. It's been in a few videos already and I know people are interested.
Comgrays on new cam
Why the hell would they use an inverted LCD on a multimeter?
They are not readable without a backlight and useless in sun light.
For sure they went for this type of display because it's different and many people will buy it just for that, not knowing the visibility will be worse.
Yes, streaming 4K to a 1080p screen will give great results on youtube. (crappy compression) Save bandwidth by click 2K for the same result.
Also another trick is, render your 1080p footage at 2K and then upload to youtube. you will then get the full bandwidth for nice true 1080p.
As compare to the my other multimeter, i have 3 digital and 1 analog. the AN8008 is my best one.
WOW - EEVblog in 4k - this is like staring straigt into the sun, even on a 1080p display or 1440p in my case. The extra bitrate, that youtube streams in 4k, makes a huge difference!
The colors seem slightly more saturated and the image might be a bit sharper when watching at 1080p. This observation was made on a fairly new laptop with a 1440p IPS LCD with poor contrast but about 95% sRGB coverage.
I've a pair of Aneng 8009s which work perfectly fine.
thank you, almost made the mistake of buying its clone ZOYI ZT-X true rms Digital Multimeter
I'd also mention there is AN8002 meter that has a proper mA range and can be hacked to 10000 counts. AN8008 has it's own advantages, but I like AN8002 more.
I picked up a Extech 410 multimeter about a year ago for around $40 I woul be interested in seeing a review on this particular model. It seems all around solid to me.
I've got the AN 8009, Love it :)
I have an old Minolta that I've had for at least 30 years, still ticking! Yeah, cheap meters are worth it, but of course, depends on usage.
I'm glad I came accross this video cuz I was about to buy it
I like negative displays but yeah I'm glad I watched this, having visibility be drastically reduced is not worth the visual enjoyment.
Thanks Dave... You saved me $40...
BTW... your 4K looks good in 480p..;)