This video is missing the part where Wade talks about 6 minutes into a turned off microphone, asks chat "was my mic off the whole time??" then has to start the whole thing over
i remember when i first started drumming i used the steve gadd sticks because i thought they were the lars ulrich signature sticks and couldn't read cursive (i was like 5 give me a break) they look cool and are light and short for beginners can recommend, although i remember them having a nylon tip, and leaving my cymbal with black marks because of the paint lol
Marching percussion sticks are so important as well. Some WGI percussion books are basically impossible without lightweight matching sticks! Looking at you, Rhythm X 2010!
If you like long sticks, you should try the vic firth freestyle. It's like long marching sticks but for drumset. And it's so good with the leverage of you hold close to the butt of the stick.
I wish you would’ve gotten into different woods (next video?). ProMark Classic Attack 5A Shira Kashi Oak are my absolute favorite. They hold up incredibly well compared to softer woods like hickory. They just cost a lot more 🤑
As someone who takes his guitar picks way too seriously and has like a dozen different types in a tin of mints and constantly switches between at least four kinds on a daily basis I love this and could listen to drumstick talk for hours
Y u p - I’ve got all sorts of shapes & materials & tip geometries & thicknesses, it’s so fun to mess with. I’ve settled on a triangle shape, between .73 & .90 mm depending on the application I’ve got some rectangular acrylic picks that are sick tho
Fellow drummer: DO IT! You don't need to be in a band, just don't annoy the people around you. Get a cheap set and start listening to music and hitting, you'll learn how to play VERY quickly!
do it. i've started ages ago and sold my kit, and i've been missing it (and space to play it) ever since. it's a workout, but after a couple weeks, you'll be decent at it. lots of resources online. go for it!!
As a metal drummer I use nylon tips because of their brighter sound but also because wood tips tend to break and then they sound like absolute dogshit, it feels like playing with a wet rat tail. Not ideal mid-blast
Gonna go on ahead and send the time stamped vater request to the right folks. Hopefully you guys work together and get your own sigs as well. Wonderful folks to work and be partnered with.
@@DUKE_of_RAMBLE click on the user.. that's brann freakin dailor. he's beyond a certified legend. Also, brann if you read this Big fan and you did great in drumeo.
Honestly a "cut to length" option for sticks might be something to float to stick companies. Make them say 6-8 inches longer than normal and a recommended TPI for a saw blade and let the good times roll.
For the first time in history, The Drum Thing steamed live on RUclips and all had been well with the world 🌎 😂 If not the most hilarious 2 hours of my life…watching an Aussie just be a complete DINGUS. 😝
it's crazy how much goes into this my perfectionist ass could never be a drummer, lmao. i'd spend hours fussing over every possible combination of things before i even got to the drumming part
That’s just called being a drummer. Some are more peculiar about other things, but when I had my ekit, I had to have everything set up the same way every time. Every time I tore it down to put it in the closet or storage and take it back out to set it up, I would literally measure things with my hands. Cymbals had to be the length from my thumb to my pinky when stretched out. Legs at just about 90 degrees when on the throne. The only exception to the rule was my china and the floor tom. Us drummers will fiddle with every little thing until it just feels natural and sounds good.
I think it's called being a musician, or any kind of enthusiast. I have spent way more time than I can justify fiddling with the setup on my £50 cashies "let's learn to play during lockdown" squier strat for example when I should have just been practicing playing the damn thing.
I remember coming into the YT stream when Wade pulled out the Zildjian rocks (or as I affectionately call them, the sausage sticks) and was waiting for this episode to drop!
I keep a pair of echos in my stick bag for when a non drummer has the brilliant idea of asking me to use multi rods, the echos are usually quiet enough to shut those people up
@@hammerth1421 im Italian and the name is funni to me, "vater" sounds like "water", which in italian means "toilet" so "il water malvagio" in italian Is 👨🏻 📹 🚽 🔫👕
I believe those Zildjian Absolute Rock sticks are actually the type that Brian Chippendale, the absolute monster behind the kit of Lightning Bolt frequently uses. His actual sculpture of broken sticks should be evidence enough as to why he prefers them.
Wade... info on why your lens is not focusing properly. Its the stock 28mm-70mm sony lens. It's a kit lens, and as it is included with the camera, they are always grabage. If you get a good lens, I would recommend a Carl zeiss sony 24-70mm lens. or some of the sigma lenses. thats the reason the amazing camera looks ok not great. Hope this helps!!
I play reggae which is a style that uses a lot of super quick hihat action but I use super thick sticks, 2b nylon tips. They might not seem ideal for my genre, but THE RIMSHOT AND CROSS STICK SOUNDS ARE INSANELY FAT MAN
Maybe message Vater and see if they can make your "Extra Sweet" custom sticks, possible if it could be a signature model or something like that. My go-to sticks are usually Vic Firth 5B wood tips, though I use quite a few different brands from VF to Pro-Mark, Vater, Easton, Trueline and even the cheapo AMS and no-name sticks. All good!
Back in the 80s I was such a heavy hitter I went seeking the thickets heaviest sticks I could find. Vic Firth Rock Crushers is what I came back with. An extra inch of length, and nearly as much Chonk as your 3S sticks. I am not sure, but I think they only came with nylon tips. Felt like baseball bats.
What's everyone's take on switching to heavier drumsticks to avoid burning out during long sessions? I've been struggling with fatigue, even on songs that aren't usually an issue. I've been using these super light sticks (Peter Erskine signatures) for rehearsals, but they're just not cutting it when it gets loud on stage. I'm thinking heavier sticks might give me more bounce and volume without killing my arms. It seems counter intuitive, but I reckon it might be the solution. Anyone else tried this?
The best sticks I ever had were un-marked and I don't know how I got them so I couldn't find them to get more, eventually one chipped and that was it. Now there is no "right" stick for me. It is a constant journey.
Mate, thanks so much for doing this!!! I've been exploring different sticks this past year but I feel like few people actually care enough to talk about this sort of thing. I'm a massive fan of nylon tips as someone who plays rock and metal as well as all of the bluesy stuff I get roped in for - the extra little treble spiciness you get helps cut through stinky guitars feeding crazy sounds through half a dozen effect pedals. I want to see a part 2 now where you talk about stuff like brushes and hot rods - been jamming in a mate's flat a lot lately and hot rods have been a life saver for keeping the noise down while encouraging me to play a bit differently too.
I got a big pair of tree trunks when I was having problems with my wrists. Just bought them on a total whim, and while the insane amount of rebound made it impractical to play certain things, it was actually super fun. Didn’t feel like hard work at all, saying this as someone who, by medical necessity, had to work less hard. Can’t remember exactly what they were at the moment.
i saw this on the stream already lol, but it's never boring time with you lol. i didn't know about the nylon cover tho, they look weird tbh. thanks for the tips frank!
people who play really hard use them because wooden tips chip away after a few hours hitting cymbals. Sticks are $15/pair now, so there's the incentive
I felt like I had plateaued as a drummer awhile back. I remember watching your videos and you always talked about the sweet rides, so I went in search of them. I couldn't find them at my local place, but after trying what they had in stock on some practice pads, I purchased sets of Vater Manhattan 5A and 7A sticks. After trying both sets out at rehearsals, i settled on the 7As. Now, my old sticks feel like tree trunks in comparison
The vic signature Questlove sticks are my new fav. But my prized possession are a pair of OG Rhythmsaws I found in a drum shop in like '02. Super cool but not super rare, apparently you can get new ones for 15 bucks 😂
I'm a bit disappointed you didn't mention the vic firth SD1 generals. They are specifically used for learning rudiments and I swear by them for improving my chops on a practice pad. They sound like complete dogshit on a kit but they're specifically meant for a practice pad. When I go from my SD1 generals to my 5As, it's like holding pencils that you can control
The Sweet Rides are nice, but a _tiny_ bit too thin and lightweight. The Manhattan 7A feel about right, but I wish the tips were perfectly round, like the Vic Firth AS8D's.
The feel of the sticks is clearly due to the centre of gravity being in a different spot between the pivot point in your hand and the tip. The stockier the shoulder, the further out it'll be. The more taper, the closer to your hand it'll be.
I love my Vater Acorn Cymbal Sticks. When I was in marching band in junior high and high school, I used Pro Mark Oak 1S, then 2S, then 3S, then their DC 10 model. They were big fat logs with just a little taper and no tip. I loved them, though. They worked perfectly for marching stuff.
EMCProductions likes Vic Firth because the flag shows exactly where you’re supposed to put your thumb. I wish I could find the video where he said it, but he prefers a size bigger than what you use. Is it strange that I like the chonky stumpy Zildjians? It’s more “oomph,” like Phil Collins’ drum fills. The bigger drumsticks are for drumlines and for playing with traditional grip.
VVadolphus doing science. I don’t like nylon. One bday I got carbon fiber sticks. Easton aluminum with the screw on tip is awful. I’m going Vater 3A. I remember getting Ludwig 3S one time. I feel like drumsticks and heads are the software and the hardware is drums and cymbals. It’s all gonna break. Also glad the break in didn’t. What part of Delaware are you from? Or is it Rhode Island? That accent.
I used Rock Knockers forever, was so tired of stick breakage I tried these and never looked back. Until now. I now use Regal Tip Rock sticks. But I still have a pair of Rock Knockers handy....
For the drummer who loves using your sticks upside down and beating the shit out of your cymbals. The Zildjian Absolute Rock! 😂 Those are the worst sticks I have ever seen. 😆
I've played Vic Firth 5A for almost 20 years - 5B chonky bois for heavier stuff where I don't need control, just BOOM. I guess I'm just a basic little fella and haven't tried to venture out of my habits yet. I wouldn't even say that they fit me right, it's just that I haven't even tried anything else yet :D
I love drumsticks. It's fun to see how the shape and design changes the feel and the sound you get. My favorite models are Vic Firth's Buddy Rich and Kenny Aronoff models
I'm sure you're aware Wade, but just in case you're not, Vic Firth has their "Extreme" sticks, which are slightly longer, maybe by about 50mm or so. They may offer something with that sort of tip in that line, though I have no idea.
That's a hefty difference though, even on just a short play through it's massive, shame the neanderthals would never hear it & still wonder why you don't just buy those £3 drumsticks off Temu/Wish.....
Your wrong about the absolute rocks my friend. If your a basher and that’s the sound your going for they are fantastic and sound really great. A huge part of grohls sound in nirvana was from holding his sticks backwards. Time and place m8 time and place…
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This video is missing the part where Wade talks about 6 minutes into a turned off microphone, asks chat "was my mic off the whole time??" then has to start the whole thing over
my favorite part, 31 minutes of hilarity for 31 seconds of usable content
and somewhere in there I bet there was a rage into a cymbal toss
@@MichanaAlerting If I recall correctly, three cymbal tosses.
@@WWTBAMWinner of course
Not before yeeting every single cymbal he has lmao
i remember when i first started drumming i used the steve gadd sticks because i thought they were the lars ulrich signature sticks and couldn't read cursive (i was like 5 give me a break) they look cool and are light and short for beginners can recommend, although i remember them having a nylon tip, and leaving my cymbal with black marks because of the paint lol
I'm so glad you kept the bloopers in
5:53 Good aim skills DankPods ! 😲😎 !
Love the Absolute Rock Sticks, Brian Chippendale uses them and now I use them lmao
Marching percussion sticks are so important as well. Some WGI percussion books are basically impossible without lightweight matching sticks! Looking at you, Rhythm X 2010!
Drums my beloved
My current favorites are the Danny Carey signatures because the fulcrum point is tapered and it has a thick shoulder. Very comfortable.
If you like long sticks, you should try the vic firth freestyle. It's like long marching sticks but for drumset. And it's so good with the leverage of you hold close to the butt of the stick.
I’m quite surprised it makes such a difference! :O
Sneaky Fronks presence through the stream was an unexpected treat.
The only thing I hear is that one makes the tinggey sound more or less tingier.
people who use a e-kit:
Just chop some broom stick and use them as drum stucks. Dam those sticks are chunky
I wish you would’ve gotten into different woods (next video?). ProMark Classic Attack 5A Shira Kashi Oak are my absolute favorite. They hold up incredibly well compared to softer woods like hickory. They just cost a lot more 🤑
The 3S sticks make you look smaller
I still wonder what material difference has on sound. Like how a stick made of a denser or harder wood performs.
0:35 YOU HAVE CYMBALS ON STANDBY???😭😭
it sounds like the vaters are lower pitch. For me I don't buy sticks that are lower than Bb. A and below absorbs way too much off cymbals
PETITION FOR WADE TO GET HIS EXTRA SWEET RIDES
i was in the stream fellas
For the people who don't use RUclips vanced, this video has a 3k likes to 7 dislikes , ITS FREAKING AMAZING
Halo I like vater nightsticks they’re heavy af
I get excited every time he says "boring time"
Always.
Me too! I love boring time!
Boring time is best time
Boring time is best time
He should make a "boring video"
Babe wake up. Its the dingus talking about drums again.
FRAAAAAAAAAAANK!
Also dankmus :)
Babe, what's wrong, you've barely touched your Ravioli cymbal
As someone who takes his guitar picks way too seriously and has like a dozen different types in a tin of mints and constantly switches between at least four kinds on a daily basis I love this and could listen to drumstick talk for hours
Y u p - I’ve got all sorts of shapes & materials & tip geometries & thicknesses, it’s so fun to mess with. I’ve settled on a triangle shape, between .73 & .90 mm depending on the application
I’ve got some rectangular acrylic picks that are sick tho
I’m honestly considering learning to play the drums as a side thing thanks to you, keep at it!
Fellow drummer: DO IT! You don't need to be in a band, just don't annoy the people around you. Get a cheap set and start listening to music and hitting, you'll learn how to play VERY quickly!
@@just_limerence Thanks for the advice, I’ll keep that in mind :)
do it. i've started ages ago and sold my kit, and i've been missing it (and space to play it) ever since. it's a workout, but after a couple weeks, you'll be decent at it. lots of resources online. go for it!!
Wade simultaneously screaming and chucking the cymbals is a mood
I literally know nothing about drums, and this is satisfying seeing a Aussie yelling about a microphone not working
What you don't see is the whole like 5 minute segment where Wade was just barely audible via the overhead mic for the drums.
As a drummer, boring time is the best time to
As not drummer, same.
To what
To what?
Best time to what???
To
i was waiting for the return of the sticks from the worst drum book in the world
As a metal drummer I use nylon tips because of their brighter sound but also because wood tips tend to break and then they sound like absolute dogshit, it feels like playing with a wet rat tail. Not ideal mid-blast
Gonna go on ahead and send the time stamped vater request to the right folks.
Hopefully you guys work together and get your own sigs as well. Wonderful folks to work and be partnered with.
If you manage to make Wade's deal come true, you will be a *"Certified LEGEND"* 🤘😫🤘
@@DUKE_of_RAMBLE click on the user.. that's brann freakin dailor. he's beyond a certified legend.
Also, brann if you read this Big fan and you did great in drumeo.
BRANN FUCKING DAILOR IS HERE?
The sticks Gene Hoglan uses are halfway between the absolute rocks and 3s.
Chunky boys need chunky sticks.
Gene Hoglan mentioned, this is a good day
I play with the Shirashi Oak 2Bs from Promark; can confirm, chonky bois
Love Hoglan
7a ftw
Honestly a "cut to length" option for sticks might be something to float to stick companies. Make them say 6-8 inches longer than normal and a recommended TPI for a saw blade and let the good times roll.
For the first time in history, The Drum Thing steamed live on RUclips and all had been well with the world 🌎 😂
If not the most hilarious 2 hours of my life…watching an Aussie just be a complete DINGUS. 😝
Need to see you hit the stop sign cymbal with a 2×4.
it's crazy how much goes into this
my perfectionist ass could never be a drummer, lmao. i'd spend hours fussing over every possible combination of things before i even got to the drumming part
That’s just called being a drummer. Some are more peculiar about other things, but when I had my ekit, I had to have everything set up the same way every time. Every time I tore it down to put it in the closet or storage and take it back out to set it up, I would literally measure things with my hands. Cymbals had to be the length from my thumb to my pinky when stretched out. Legs at just about 90 degrees when on the throne. The only exception to the rule was my china and the floor tom. Us drummers will fiddle with every little thing until it just feels natural and sounds good.
Not at all. It sounds like you would love it.
I think it's called being a musician, or any kind of enthusiast. I have spent way more time than I can justify fiddling with the setup on my £50 cashies "let's learn to play during lockdown" squier strat for example when I should have just been practicing playing the damn thing.
my hungry ass could never be a drummer 🤤
I remember coming into the YT stream when Wade pulled out the Zildjian rocks (or as I affectionately call them, the sausage sticks) and was waiting for this episode to drop!
I keep a pair of echos in my stick bag for when a non drummer has the brilliant idea of asking me to use multi rods, the echos are usually quiet enough to shut those people up
you drummers are bizarre. imagine being picky about what pieces of wood you use to hit things with.
now, let me tell you about guitar picks...
Please do talk about guitar picks then!
DRUM THING MENTIONED!!!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥
"Vader Sweet Ride" reminded me that it's Star Wars Day.
May the 4th be with you.
May the 4th Be With _You,_ as well!
🖍️ 👱🏼
🖍️💢 🔹🔹 🔫 🥋
🖍️ 🔹
🎤 🔹
(yes, I'm bored... shush! lol)
It's Vater which is German for father.
Luke, I am your Vater!
@@hammerth1421 im Italian and the name is funni to me, "vater" sounds like "water", which in italian means "toilet" so "il water malvagio" in italian Is
👨🏻 📹
🚽 🔫👕
I believe those Zildjian Absolute Rock sticks are actually the type that Brian Chippendale, the absolute monster behind the kit of Lightning Bolt frequently uses. His actual sculpture of broken sticks should be evidence enough as to why he prefers them.
Was checking the comments to see if anyone mentioned Chippendale yet, love those guys
Correct me if I’m wrong, but the SD5s are concert snare sticks. Also the Vater 3S is a marching snare stick.
PLEASE WHERE DID YOU GET ZILDJIAN ABSOLUTE ROCK STICKS
The Vater Hammer sticks are almost the same, think those are easier to find :)
@@therealmicha1243 AA Thanks a bunch!!!!
should have tried playing while holding the sticks backwards for the ultimate, uhhh ... experience!(?)
I love how the moment he gets irritated he goes into the Cymbal Toss mode
WOAHH THat's from the drum thing drum stream "stream", I was there!
3:26 TF2 Scout ahh laugh
real
Shoutout to aluminum sticks too!!! As a metal player on a budget those things are the only thing keeping me from spending $100s a year on sticks
how do you avoid ending up with razor blades? Field tenors used to use 'em but the shafts would bend and the rim dents get very sharp
You'll end up spending 1000$ a year ln cymbals then lol
@@angelrgdrumsno, the cymbals are unaffected. The aluminum stick shafts bend and become sharp from rimshots. It's more of a safety thing
Wade... info on why your lens is not focusing properly. Its the stock 28mm-70mm sony lens. It's a kit lens, and as it is included with the camera, they are always grabage. If you get a good lens, I would recommend a Carl zeiss sony 24-70mm lens. or some of the sigma lenses. thats the reason the amazing camera looks ok not great. Hope this helps!!
I play reggae which is a style that uses a lot of super quick hihat action but I use super thick sticks, 2b nylon tips. They might not seem ideal for my genre, but THE RIMSHOT AND CROSS STICK SOUNDS ARE INSANELY FAT MAN
Maybe message Vater and see if they can make your "Extra Sweet" custom sticks, possible if it could be a signature model or something like that. My go-to sticks are usually Vic Firth 5B wood tips, though I use quite a few different brands from VF to Pro-Mark, Vater, Easton, Trueline and even the cheapo AMS and no-name sticks. All good!
Vater, not Vader 😄
Huh! I'd never noticed before now that those sticks' name actually is German for 'father'! 😄 (pronounced "Fahter")
that's so strange... I would not have thought the stick shape would make THAT much difference.
Back in the 80s I was such a heavy hitter I went seeking the thickets heaviest sticks I could find. Vic Firth Rock Crushers is what I came back with. An extra inch of length, and nearly as much Chonk as your 3S sticks. I am not sure, but I think they only came with nylon tips. Felt like baseball bats.
What's everyone's take on switching to heavier drumsticks to avoid burning out during long sessions? I've been struggling with fatigue, even on songs that aren't usually an issue. I've been using these super light sticks (Peter Erskine signatures) for rehearsals, but they're just not cutting it when it gets loud on stage. I'm thinking heavier sticks might give me more bounce and volume without killing my arms. It seems counter intuitive, but I reckon it might be the solution. Anyone else tried this?
The best sticks I ever had were un-marked and I don't know how I got them so I couldn't find them to get more, eventually one chipped and that was it. Now there is no "right" stick for me. It is a constant journey.
Nylon is good for not ripping up electronic drums. Manhattan 7AN is my jam.
No Morgan Rose Alien Freak Sticks? Even thicker than the absolute rocks.
I actually got myself a pair of sweetrides after this.... some proppper cymbal tappers right there❤
Try playing with chop sticks. I did it for years for acoustic folky crap
Come on Vater give him customs. Call 'em Dankrods.
At my college we use the Absolute Rock sticks for a lot of Latin percussion. They tend to let longer wailing on a cowbell all day.
Hell, drumstick blanks are the recommended implement for timbales
Mate, thanks so much for doing this!!!
I've been exploring different sticks this past year but I feel like few people actually care enough to talk about this sort of thing.
I'm a massive fan of nylon tips as someone who plays rock and metal as well as all of the bluesy stuff I get roped in for - the extra little treble spiciness you get helps cut through stinky guitars feeding crazy sounds through half a dozen effect pedals.
I want to see a part 2 now where you talk about stuff like brushes and hot rods - been jamming in a mate's flat a lot lately and hot rods have been a life saver for keeping the noise down while encouraging me to play a bit differently too.
Zildjian: You know those rhythm sticks every child in the world is given in music class? Let's sell those to drummers.
I've always enjoyed using small tipped Jazz sticks for my playing. I playing In a traditonal blues style and I find that it compliments it quite well
Never before have I seen a man so mad that he threw a cymbal at a wall.
why is no one talking about how hard his outfits usually are?? man has that thrift store dad vibe
It's almost a clichee, Aussie outfits go hard. Exactly because they're very colourful and not quite matching.
I'm not a musician, but should certain drumsticks be bought for certain music, or is it all just about the feel for the drummer?
Feel and sound = everything. No rules to drums!
Yep, by feel. I don't know what size and length my sticks are. Lol. (they're Dave Weckl's signature sticks btw)
I got a big pair of tree trunks when I was having problems with my wrists. Just bought them on a total whim, and while the insane amount of rebound made it impractical to play certain things, it was actually super fun. Didn’t feel like hard work at all, saying this as someone who, by medical necessity, had to work less hard. Can’t remember exactly what they were at the moment.
For the algorithm. ✊
We need an entire 1 hour Cymbal Toss session on The Drum stream 😂
i saw this on the stream already lol, but it's never boring time with you lol. i didn't know about the nylon cover tho, they look weird tbh. thanks for the tips frank!
people who play really hard use them because wooden tips chip away after a few hours hitting cymbals. Sticks are $15/pair now, so there's the incentive
@RedstonePyroMan oh i get it. It's like using an expensive smartphone without cover, if you drop it, it will be a pain in the butt.
holy shit, i only ever work with samples--i guess that's why i had no idea that sticks alone could create such a difference in sound
As a primarily rock and metal drummer, I HATE nylon tipped sticks.
I felt like I had plateaued as a drummer awhile back. I remember watching your videos and you always talked about the sweet rides, so I went in search of them. I couldn't find them at my local place, but after trying what they had in stock on some practice pads, I purchased sets of Vater Manhattan 5A and 7A sticks. After trying both sets out at rehearsals, i settled on the 7As. Now, my old sticks feel like tree trunks in comparison
i think those Vater 3S sticks are marching snare sticks? they actually look really fun and i'd love to try them
The vic signature Questlove sticks are my new fav. But my prized possession are a pair of OG Rhythmsaws I found in a drum shop in like '02. Super cool but not super rare, apparently you can get new ones for 15 bucks 😂
I'm a bit disappointed you didn't mention the vic firth SD1 generals. They are specifically used for learning rudiments and I swear by them for improving my chops on a practice pad. They sound like complete dogshit on a kit but they're specifically meant for a practice pad. When I go from my SD1 generals to my 5As, it's like holding pencils that you can control
Next step.
Get a gong
The Sweet Rides are nice, but a _tiny_ bit too thin and lightweight. The Manhattan 7A feel about right, but I wish the tips were perfectly round, like the Vic Firth AS8D's.
a drumstick changes everythang... /ref
3:26 i bet evgeny novikov from slaughter to prevail would actually like these
The feel of the sticks is clearly due to the centre of gravity being in a different spot between the pivot point in your hand and the tip. The stockier the shoulder, the further out it'll be. The more taper, the closer to your hand it'll be.
I love my Vater Acorn Cymbal Sticks. When I was in marching band in junior high and high school, I used Pro Mark Oak 1S, then 2S, then 3S, then their DC 10 model. They were big fat logs with just a little taper and no tip. I loved them, though. They worked perfectly for marching stuff.
EMCProductions likes Vic Firth because the flag shows exactly where you’re supposed to put your thumb. I wish I could find the video where he said it, but he prefers a size bigger than what you use.
Is it strange that I like the chonky stumpy Zildjians? It’s more “oomph,” like Phil Collins’ drum fills. The bigger drumsticks are for drumlines and for playing with traditional grip.
VVadolphus doing science. I don’t like nylon. One bday I got carbon fiber sticks. Easton aluminum with the screw on tip is awful. I’m going Vater 3A. I remember getting Ludwig 3S one time. I feel like drumsticks and heads are the software and the hardware is drums and cymbals. It’s all gonna break. Also glad the break in didn’t. What part of Delaware are you from? Or is it Rhode Island? That accent.
0:34 Terrible? Nah, the Cymbal Toss is great! We're probably going to lose, but we might just win.
I used Rock Knockers forever, was so tired of stick breakage I tried these and never looked back. Until now. I now use Regal Tip Rock sticks. But I still have a pair of Rock Knockers handy....
For the drummer who loves using your sticks upside down and beating the shit out of your cymbals. The Zildjian Absolute Rock! 😂 Those are the worst sticks I have ever seen. 😆
I've played Vic Firth 5A for almost 20 years - 5B chonky bois for heavier stuff where I don't need control, just BOOM. I guess I'm just a basic little fella and haven't tried to venture out of my habits yet. I wouldn't even say that they fit me right, it's just that I haven't even tried anything else yet :D
I love drumsticks. It's fun to see how the shape and design changes the feel and the sound you get. My favorite models are Vic Firth's Buddy Rich and Kenny Aronoff models
I'm sure you're aware Wade, but just in case you're not, Vic Firth has their "Extreme" sticks, which are slightly longer, maybe by about 50mm or so. They may offer something with that sort of tip in that line, though I have no idea.
Brian Chippendale from Lightning Bolt uses Zildjian Absolute Rocks.
DEAR DRUM THING
TRY VATER GOSPEL 5A, it’s basically a longer sweet ride :)))
Love the channel btw
That's a hefty difference though, even on just a short play through it's massive, shame the neanderthals would never hear it & still wonder why you don't just buy those £3 drumsticks off Temu/Wish.....
Your wrong about the absolute rocks my friend. If your a basher and that’s the sound your going for they are fantastic and sound really great.
A huge part of grohls sound in nirvana was from holding his sticks backwards. Time and place m8 time and place…