Machining $100K Ball Valve for a HUGE Super Yacht
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- Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024
- CNC Machining a $100K Masterpiece Ball Valve for a Super Yacht on the Heller CP 6000 5 Axis… sitting vertically on the Schunk Vero-S system. This 2200 pound part is being rough machined with a Kennametal Harvi 1 TE. This video is dedicated to the art of rough machining. Designed in Solidworks and programmed in Mastercam.
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Love the raw machining, no music, and with talking held off till the end. Nice change of pace👏
Dude i love it
Ill take the music. I hear enough machining everyday. 😂
@@Under-KaozI literally will wear ear plugs just to have some peace lol
Agreed
Yes cool video! Awesome vibes
Pure maching, no music, no commentary no nothing, love it!
And no slo-mo! Hopefully that fad has gone away.
What do you mean no music. That sound IS music!
ASMR for men
@@christian455 fuck yea....
smh still extremely entertaining to watch
Sitting in my car on lunch break... watching a video about what I do once I go back inside... there's something wrong with me. Loved this video though.
I come home from work and watch truck driving, after having driven one for 10-12 hours... we are perfectly normal... 😏
There are days I'm doing over 8 hour days just figuring out how to machine an assembly one of our customers asked us to make, then come home and look forward to their machining vids. Then again I think of those days as a bonus since it's self-training be it Fusion 360 or learning how I can manipulate our machines/tools to do more, and I can take ideas I've learnt here and try them out for myself.
What I'm trying to say is you can never get too much machining as long as you enjoy the process of machining.
As a CNC programmer, I can say I think we all have a screw or two loose. It's not a bad thing, but we're our own breed.
There's nothing at all wrong with you. You're just in the right place.
that just means you like what you do!
Not gonna lie, I'm genuinely impressed with the depth of cut that tool can withstand and how much heat it must be holding up to.
Why no coolant?
@@byronmartin6459makes for a shit video 😅
@@byronmartin6459People would complain about not being able to see the part
@@byronmartin6459 I wondered that. Must be wrecking the tool.
no lube or oil?
That art-deco pineapple looks cool as hell.
I wonder who lives in it.
@@christianherrera4729 Well, I hope for the boat owner that it isn't SpongeBob.
@@christianherrera4729 I can't hear you. 🍍
@@SuperLuminalMan AYE AYE CAPTAAAIN
That will not be there on the final product
Those cuts are insane, you guys know your specs. No coolant, perfect speed and rotation for the chip to absorb all that heat.
I was surprised to see no coolant... I thought, maybe this is some high end equipment that has coolant flowing through the giant end mill?
But I guess from your comment that thing is just beefy enough to shred steel without the mess...?
Maybe they are running air instead of coolant.
Heller, German Engineering..
they do stuff for filming so no coolant . would be better machining with coolant , always.
@alexmaus5059 I work on a Heller 8000 at work... we use coolant... we're cutting 2mm a pass tho...
I'm a machinist (and not a yacht owner), but that thing is so display-worthy as a roughed part.
While it might be an odd request, I'd probably have a finished part installed in the engine room and a roughed part installed in the living room as an art piece.
Maybe with the functional internals, critical tolerances, and mating surfaces made to spec so it could be used as a functional part in a pinch 😅
But that is cool as hell even if it's "just a valve".
I'm looking forward to seeing the finished part.
This is the sort of flex that would be expected from a yacht owner.
Yeah, but they wanted the $100,000 version, not the $half million piece of art!
Ah. It's a roughed part. That makes sense. I was confused about the chatter marks.
At the roughing phase there may be no critical tolerances machined as it is likely going to be heat treated prior to finishing.
i for sure wouldnt wanna be responsible for making sure that roughed part is deburred before its installed as a art piece in the living room with a change of being touched by curious people who always seem to wanna touch shiny stuff.
That was awesome...thanks for not ruining it with some ridiculous techno soundtrack like so many people do on YT.
Obviously I’m no where in the ballpark with this “I’m an industrial Mechanic”, but it never cease amaze me the minds it must’ve taken to be able to create the machinery that do stuff like this. It’s just so cool.
Why can’t we leave it like it is? I know some areas have to be finished, but as it stands….ITS A WORK OF ART!
Make yr own. Its just a lump of metal, half of which can be cashed it immediately as scrap. Its a win!
I would love to make art like this.
The margin for error is nonexistent. And to think that one day this masterpiece of art could be spending eternity at the bottom of some ocean.
Which makes me somewhat sad to think of all that beautifully machined work sitting in all those submerged shipwrecks, slowly corroding away
Everything on this world is in vain, not forever though.
The Titanic was a masterpiece in its short life.
That wouldn't look out of place in a museum of modern art,absolutely gorgeous. 😮.
The external rough, looks like art. I'd leave it on my yacht i dont have. Beautiful piece
This thing is a piece of art as is
Screw up once and that’s just what it will be😁
Wow over 1200lbs😳😳 Those Kennametal Tools can really do some serious work!
How often do you need to change the inserts/endmills on a job like this?
@@roeschdan If coolant was used, and feeds and speeds adjusted for a balance of speed and tool life, I could see 1 Endmill doing all roughing but wouldn't be surprised if someone set it up to kill 1 but hog out material then use a 2nd to finish roughing.
He said he went through 3 endmills for the roughing. Not sure if he meant all from the 2 vids or just this one but in this vid you can see at 3:30 there are sparks and that's the material getting stuck on the endmill creating more heat as it cuts causing the casting to overheat too, then at 4:30 it shows an endmill cutting without the sparks. I didn't see a change like that anywhere else so 3 using just air with full flute length.
if i had a choice i'd leave the outer surface like that, looks cool as hell, as long as you don't brush up against it, razor edge nightmare.
Lots of deburring
I'm not sure what the purpose of all those facets is, but in an environment with salt water it makes no sense to have those facets as best I can tell. This approach makes for a substantial increase in surface area that salt water can attack and we know this is a form of steel given the chips sticking to the magnets so that will promote rust. It is an interesting look for sure, but sometimes going with a drab look that reduces surface area is the better option. Of course, a huge yacht is mostly a means of showing off your wealth so having something like this makes sense from an aesthetic standpoint even if it makes no sense from a function and maintainability standpoint!
@@Raptorman0909 If you have salt water in your engine room you have bigger problems to focus on.
@@slickrock1371 Begging your pardon, but ocean going ships travers ... wait for it ... SALT WATER. And, just like people that live close to the ocean they have greater rust issues than people living further away from the ocean. So, quite independent on seawater entering the engine room there will always be some saltwater aerosolized in the air.
@@Raptorman0909 I've seen a few engine rooms that you could eat off of so somehow they manage to deal with traversing SALTWATER intelligently.
I don't know about others, but I figured they wanted it like this! It looks amazing just as it is!! If I was the customer I'd be cool with you stopping right there because then I'd have the coolest and most original ball valve ever!!
As soon as you said it was a rough finish a little tear came out my eye, all that needs is just a little debarring and that’s it. Jobs done 👍🏾
Probably my favorite video in the last year or so
you need to spend more time on youtube... "PoliceActivity, Matt's offroad recovery, Cleetus Mcfarleen, Boat Zone, Bad Friends... "
What is the technical benefit of moving in waves then just flat from left to right and back if you want to achieve a flat at the end?
It's like watching a sculpture take shape. Nice work.
I was mesmerized at 1:20 when it cut that thin slice of metal. That noise is something else. Great video!
SO SATISFYING!!! I could listen to that all day.
it's always fun to watch a massive machine create an endless supply of flying razor blades that range from 570 to 800 + decrees (or so)
So glad I found this channel, no talking, no bullshit just straight up machining. The lines and contours on that piece are stunning. I was captivated from start to finish 😂
Loving the raw machining, truly an incredible process! Great work Barry and Ben!
Our profession is pure art, as I always tell people that don't have a clue what I'm actually doing for a living the last 38 Years. I make parts for machines that are either on land, in the water, in the air or in space. Some parts are really challenging and creates sleepless nights for the whole team but you accept it.
If you are properly trained by craftsmen you learn how to do it as cost efficient as possible with the minimal amount of wasted material, and that is where the challenge is. A good machinist understands his machine(s) and it's tools. It takes Years to learn this trade and it's awesome for a carreer challenge because once you get up to that level it still remains very satisfying. And you are always keen on that new project that will test you again.
Pure art you reckon?
The sound is scary and beautiful at the same time knowing the power and the precision machining it has!
I love that you did this for the video, but it's killing me that there is no coolant.
It's great that you give all the machine parameters so that I can try this a home!
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Love the asmr of this. Plus the dedication to send it without coolant and ruin tooling just for our pleasure ❤
Great video! I envy Barry’s talent.
I like the way the rough finish looks. It looks awesome.
Wish we could see that beauty being installed in the ship. Now I for one missed your commentary in the video as it's going as though the sound of cutting metal is good your commentary adds value to the part.
When the roughing alone is a work of art you are doing something right.
Nice work Barry and Ben!
i'm a contractor in dfw and saw your building the other day so i decided to check it out, great videos, keep it up!
Fascinating as this is to watch, and kudos to the Titan machinists for the setup and machining program, it makes me reflect on the fact that there's now a generation of machinists who've machined with nothing but CNC, and a generation of engineers who've designed with nothing but 3D CAD. They have, however, seen existing and historical parts manufactured by other means. It always seems crazy to me to duplicate the form of a casting by hacking something from solid material. It's a lot easier to form smooth, flowing shapes in a wooden pattern than it is in AISI 4140. As others here have pointed out, you could just leave this part with the fascinating, "Chrysler building" roughing pattern on it. It would function equally well and save a lot of machine time and cost. Or you could just design it as a series of interconnected, simple prismatic shapes. You'd think someone who could afford to buy a superyacht could afford to have a casting made, even for a one off? (And aren't all superyachts "huge?" By definition?)
This vid made me feel appreciation to engineers and who invented the CNC, it's amazing indeed.
Carving out the inside is going more difficult than outside. I'm excited to see more.
I knew titan back in 2007. Glad to see the machining success. You tube channel is a great facade
It doesn't surprise me the Vero did so well
I love the art deco of the rough machining, I hope you left it that way.
Amazing work! That part looks sick!
My not knowing ass thinking it was supposed to look artsy with all those patterns. Looking forward to the next few videos. Sweet valve
WOW... I can Destroy a new drill bit in a second drilling brass and these Kennametal tools look they are about to melt and they still keep cuttin' away......... kinda Amazing to me.. I keep watching this video over and over waiting every time for something to go &%^$#............ just plain COOL Titan .
I assume you're talking about a small drill bit and not something the same size as those end mills (1 inch), although I guess if you crash hard enough any tool can break.
Also, Barry is the machinist in charge of this project and Ben is the cameraman.
I’m still surprised why they aren’t using a coolant, it’s been years since I’ve been around any CNC machines but this is amazing.
@@kidjetrecon7153 Just for filming purposes. If you watch videos with coolant turned on you'll find most of the time it blocks any view of the actual machining.
I'm sure if this was for production machining they'd have flood coolant (coming from the roof, and possibly other places with the machine's size), high pressure nozzle and/or through spindle coolant. At that point we'd have a better chance getting struck by lightning than seeing a shadow of the part.
I'd bet they do... not the best to splash cameras while filming.
How many bits did he replace on this? And its kind of crazy there is not any cooling fluid.
Sick angles Ben!! Great video Barry! I don’t think it even needs finishing haha
The large portion of these videos are things we already do, but this is a beautiful piece of machining. Well done.
Love the head nod at 7:58
When you can't hide tooling marks, you make them a work of art❤
Amazing machining!
Hello ToC,
why is this part not cast to shape and then machined to finish?
I assume that it would be waaay cheaper that way... Am I wrong??
I’m surprised the people who invented the CNC machine never got a noble piece price because this qualifies it benefits mankind
Great working nice sound 👌
layman question. is the giant piece of steel forged or why can't you just roughly cast the thing and then machine the rest ? seems overly complicated, time consuming and expensive in terms of bit use to take off that much material with the machine.
You sound exactly like John C Reilly. My wife thought I was watching Wreck it Ralph.
Don't know much about machining. But why isn't there any cooling liquid or lube???
The pure poetry in motion. Awesome
It's very therapeutic watching videos like this. Very relaxing.
Wow never knew Barry of all the employees would design this much detail into a part 😮☺️I’m use to seeing chatter marks (to much speed ) and blueing from the heat (too Deep) 😊just kidding with Ya Barry 👍🤞props 😊
LOL I was fully expecting comments claiming that this part was finished and the dragon scales are just my chatter marks
My father was a machinest, I was always fascinated by it as a child and teen, but my father wanted me to have nothing to do with the profession. Working with metal - watching that cutter go through steel like it's paper is amazing Everytime imaee it happen.
I loved everything about this video. Except for that weird creep at the end.
I loved it when Titan had his show on the Discovery Channel many years ago. It is so amazing as to how far the business has gone since he first started doing this type of work. The fact that he was in a bad spot in his own life and that he has overcome the challenges of being in prison and changed his life around and to top it all off he is not the person that would never hire a person who has been to prison because he has been and knows that if you set your mind on doing great things it will come.
Chips, chips, and more chips! Love it!
That's amazing yes sir
Nice!!! That's the super power of a 5 axis work 💯🇺🇲💯💪👍
I figured there would already be a market for standardized valves that size?
Very very impressed 😊
Top tier machining video. Like all the others said, no music or monolog bs. And for real the amount of material that bit takes off per pass is mind boggling. I have a crystal Irish glass with a similar design... but done by hand 😏
Is there a specific reason you wouldn't just cast this and then do the finishing on a mill?
Would cost like 1/30th the price to cast it lol
This is a machining company. They specialize in this type of work and already have the equipment for it.
Why would they go out of there way to make less profit?
@@chaytonhurlow840 I'm looking at this from a broader perspective, it seems like it would be more efficient overall if it was done the way I described instead of being entirely machined from a homogeneous block of stainless.
That’s a really good question. It would probably be significantly cheaper to cast it, and then mill the faces of the flanges and clean up anywhere it seals with machinery.
Cast it= machine a mold, and then pay all the extra associated costs to get a weaker part
Two questions, 1) why no coolant? This looked like it needed it at times. I assume it's turned off for filming?
2) why was this not cast first? It seems all that rough cut milling time could be removed if the blank was almost the right shape to start with.
Awesome !👌
Why no coolant? I would think that would be needed for cracks
Why doesn't this require coolant?
The parts I’ve ran like this were always with some form of insert cutter but from what I was told with proper feeds and speeds most of the heat that’s generated goes into the chip not the part or tool. But as somebody who isn’t a programmer I’m really not sure. Looks cool tho
steel, heat leaves with the chip.
As a machinist who’s worked on manual machines, those tolerances must be absolutely perfect.
Excellent ❤❤
The roughed out part looks like an art deco sculpture. If you were making it for me, I would have you guys stop there for the exterior.
You better not buck, better not cry!! This Harvi 1TE is goin in dry....
LOL love it. I may need to sing that in a video now
@@barrysetzer doooo it :)
Has the valve body been completed, would like to see those finish passes.
Instant like. 👍
Friggin Epic......wow. Just....carved through that steel like BUTTER. Loved this video!
That s was epic
Insane workmanship
It is nice, no question, but was that really the best method to hog off so much material, by turning it into tiny chip? Could no sections be cut off?
Thats some real beautyful maschining content right here 🔥
A part from the fact that is really cool to look at, wouldn't it be way more efficiënt (and less expensive) to sandcast the rough shape and finish it with machining? ( This could be a stupid question, I'm quit new to the world of machining :) )
That is seriously impressive...
That part looks exquisite. It must have been so satisfying to produce it. I bet the yacht owner loved it.
The sounds starting at 1:23 are amazing. Pure science fiction laser beam twang. Too cool (or maybe too hot?)
why machined and not casted like every other valve though?
That cnc changes its own tool! So cool.
The chip load is perfect
No coolant during CNC? There's something wrong in this video
As a ball valve engineer this is very intriguing!
Can you tell me what the function of this particular part is? I am intrigued as well.
is turning that much material into chips really worth it? cant the bulk be cut off using wire edm or sth and do just the detailed work for the mill 😅
This is the first time i have seen a tool get used up in "real" time. Seeing the end of it getting duller and hotter as it went on.
Im guessing this is just as much of a tech demo as its actually making the part, im really impressed and i dont even know that much about cnc.
It's a work of art at this stage, and could serve as a luxury item in an area where the part is exposed, on a ship for example.
Could metal 3d printing do the same? Or is this just plain easier to find a guy to do this?
Metal 3d printing could do this, but would not check needed characteristics. For example, metal 3d prints are not completely watertight, and are more fragile compared to a steel block-machined piece
@@xara7152 I've heard different. I have a friend who's designs and builds valves for very large industrial usages. They use 3d prints all the time.
@@dkchen intresting... i'd be curious to know what are the advantages to this, besides cost ? And what the tolerances would be like... because metal 3d prints aren't very smooth... (it does look super cool however)
This is why we love youtube!
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It looks like a trophy! I’d keep it looking just like it is. It’s art!
the pineapple texture looks incredible