5:18 You´re right! Usually in german german locomotives: The round type of heat exchanger is a "Oberflächen-Vorwärmer" (surface pre-heater), where the cold water flows through pipes surrounded by used steam. The square type, seen on "Reko" (Rebuild) locomotives (In East Germany from 1960 onward) mixes the used steam with the cold water. It´s called "Misch-Vorwärmer" (Mixing pre-heater). It´s the easiest way to tell apart a "Altbau" (older build, which means pre-1945) locomotive from a "Reko" (Rebuild) locomotive.
To Greg, if you see this the gauge glass as modelled is the protective shield around the glass tube that contains the actual water. The shield should not contain any water, its only job is to protect the tube from being damaged and protect the crew from the steam and water should the glass tube break. Otherwise the cab is nicely done. The valve gear is excellent.
And also, maybe even more important - you swapped directions of the throttle. In real, when the lever is at full right the throttle is completely closed (in German zu - Z)*, and the more left it goes, the more you open it (O). I'm used to that the brakes in DV work opposite to their real life origins, but a mirrored throttle is kinda new to me (or I wasn't attentive enough). *I'm referring to the letters, which can be found on most valves/cranks in a german steam loco cab and on the throttle indicator, f.e. in 20:30
If you ever visit Germany, the largest narrow guage Steamlocomotive network in Germany is the HSB "Harzer Schmalspurbahn" (Harz Mountainrange narrow guage railroad). They are very special in many ways: - 140km (87mi) of Steam powered meter gauge railway. With extentions considered - A tunnel - A turnig loop (like on streetcars) - A short street running section. - A station at a college campus, so you can commute to university by steam locomotive. - a siding where you have to back out, so only a single switch. (legally the siding it's a station but no person or cargo is allowed to enter or alight). - A, section where also actual streetcars operate (by using a secondary diesel engine) - if you enjoy hiking it also a great hiking region within a national park. Also the network is not entirely tailored to tourism they also provide a rudimentary commuter/regional rail service but obviously the majority of revenue comes only from the line up to the mountain peak for those who are to lazy to hike up just two to three hours. You would really enjoy it there.
I agree with Hyce, that's quite an interesting thing. Has this stayed in service, or was it brought back as a tourist railroad like the main ones Hyce talks about (Cumbres and Toltec, Georgetown Loop, and Durango and Silverton) in Colorado?
@@Ronald.Golleher It has mostly stayed in service throughout, the exeption being the route up the Brocken mountain (which was reserved for military purposes, then closed down for a while before reactivated). Most of their rolling stock is also original from this network and has never seen retirement, and they have taken in some locomotives from former railways since (the highlight being a 0-4-4-0 Mallet tank engine from the 1800s which also sees nearly daily service).
@@mikeblatzheim2797 The 99.72-73s are also interesting. These 2-10-2s are the most powerfull german narrow gauge locos. Ofcourse dwarfed by the american stuff.
And it's so cool that they somewhat fit with the game's setting Can't wait to see some of the big german locomotives with tenders and wind deflectors, hopefully
You've probably have gotten like 10 comments on this already but yes, Most of smokebox's engines have the valve gear animated for every reverser position. (Save for the 2-8-0 Connie, which was all the way back in 2013) But For everything else it is there. It's actually the thing that takes the longest to animate for him I believe. Incredible Model for this though, Stoked that this game is finally getting cool cool shit like this.
My favourite big tank engine is the Great Western Railway's own 2-8-2, the '7200' class. But this thing is so brilliant in its own way, amazing to have it in game!
a short note about the cab of the engine: Class 89 and 86 were indeed closely related. In general the engines designed in DRG period (1921 - 1940) really used as many common parts as possible, servicinge the engines was just way easier if you could take the engine apart and just rebuild it with already serviced parts. The prussians did that already to a great extend before WWI - just look at their classes P8, G10 and T16 as example, they share almost everything. The cab being nearly identical also goes back to that standardization effort. The Class 86 is actually considered to be a medium engine. The T20/Class 95 or the Class 94 (bavarian GT 4x4) are the heavyweights of german tank engines. BTW: Germany did not use any US-Parts back then in any railway application - the railway was a national agency, not a private company since it was considered critical infrastructure.
not only do i love this, Zeibach updated his couplers to theoretically work with tank engine bois (and the knuckles are walkable). also cant heckin wait for those tank cars
@@Hyce777 I just looked em up and yup. they are lovely. also did some testing. the couplers work with both new choo choos. not sure if the steamer overhaul is screwing up the valve-gear cuz the radius rods in my game arent moving
Someone needs to make an Erie L-1 class for Derail Valley. I can already imagine running from the cab to the back to shovel coal, then running back to the cab to keep driving the thing.
@@Ronald.Golleher Plus, that thing's an 0-8-8-0, so it doesn't have leading or trailing wheels, and the whole point of leading wheels is to improve stability in corners, so derailing the thing probably wouldn't be too difficult.
@@sambrown6426 if that is modeled. Not sure if that would be a physics engine thing to add, or if it's something it takes into account already. Like what's the base game difference between SH2-8-2, DE4, and DE6 as far as wheel arrangement in derail calculations?
DR BR 86, one of my favourite locomotives! They were perfect all around machines for both passenger and freight service. Also you should see the 2-12-4 tank engine Germans build for the Bulgarians I believe. It makes this thing look tiny!
One of these Class 86s (owned by a private company) still performs occasional shunting duties in the port of Hamburg, here's a video of it in action: ruclips.net/video/Xs5nrbPQW5o/видео.html It's quite a sight to behold in front of modern container cars.
man, that is awesome! this has to be one of, if not THE best locomotive mod so far! not to mention the cars are beautifully made as well. man, the modding community is just phenomenal! now all we need is someone modding *_-A BIG BOY-_* (just kidding) North American/United States locomotives and rolling stock into Derail Valley!
I love big tank engines. There's something very absurd about an engine that large being a tank engine. Much like the British Rail 4MT, which is another one I am a big fan of. I guess that's why I'm looking forward to some of the chonky Uintah tank engines for Railroads Online
@@jan_franzke I just did and good lord, that thing looks cool. Had to search "drg class 84", since "br class 84" brings up a British Railways electric locomotive.
Everything on german locomotives was german! Including the dynamo. ;) I think the dynamos were built by AEG (Allgemeine Elektricitäts-Gesellschaft) but can't verify, pics that show builders plates are hard to come by. The Kunze-Knorr system was the german counterpart to the Westinghouse brake. The air pump on the model is the Nielebock-Knorr doppelverbundluftpumpe, or double/cross compound. As mentioned elsewhere the 86 was part of the einhetslok standardization program that started in the 1920s, every loco is built from a set of standardized parts which is why german steamers look the same. The gains in cost and servicability was the drive force behind this radical move as a common part from an 86 could be replaced with a common part from an 01. You could say the DB/DRG was the Pennsy of europe. ;) A playlist with lots of german/european locos for you to study, it shows many great contrasts between american and european locomotive building and operation practices: ruclips.net/p/PLvnHDnL1qXo825lEZJmZGibPsHPC-VAcg
I feel it's very appropriate that, being located in Germany, I get a whole bunch of Deutsche Bahn ads while watching a video featuring a DRG locomotive. Great video, love the enthusiasm!
Hyce playing with new toys. and of course to make the Moola = you gotta haul the Splodey Boi's. the sheer joy of Hyce seeing a correctly modeled Valve Train!
This class of engine was at a Belgian steam festival where you could ride passenger trains and way more stuff but this engine (the New engine in the vid ) was pulling a train when its safety valve burst and well the fireman and driver were severely burned but recovered. (a little story about that engine cause why not)
Hyce the man who loves Durango and Rio Grande engines and drives DB DRG locomotive without thinking things are different in Duatchland haha good job mate
Something even bigger whould be class 65. That is a Berkshire tank locomotive with the east german version having 63" drivers and being able to go 90 km/h. Pretty much my favorite german tank locomotive because its pretty big.
*Liked* Solely for Hyces reaction to the accuracy of the model and all the motion, because God knows I would be the exact same way, giddy with excitement. If you give 'em enough, everyone is a foamer. And the HL2 reference, you're not the only one. Welcome to City 17
also, it appears that this locomotive models proper fire management! too much coal added, and the fire actually starts dieing out(because irl, the sudden increase in coal smothers the flames somewhat). that's why you had to keep the blower on climbing out of the Harbor & Town.
The cab is the same because that was one of the goals of the 'Einheitslok' programme. Depending on the year modeled the generator will have multiple frequency specific rotors for the Indusi safety system. Maximum speed is 70 kmh
I see they're bringing Steam in a DLC to Train Sim World 2. Lets hope they get it all right. I'll probably buy it. Still working through Horse Shoe Curve content. Speaking of... was running down it with 11000 Tons and it started to rain. Turns out wet rails is a thing in TSW2. To add to my problems I didn't realize my trailing Loco(there were 3 on the head end) wasn't configured correctly and the Dynamics did NOTHING. I went through the Horse Shoe 20mph over the speed limit and mumbling "oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit Ima bout to have a Kenosha moment before I can get to Altoona!" I was in Full service and Dynamic 8 and she was just slip sliding all the way down.
The yardtrack/placeyard yardtrack/placeyard on the hud are indicators of which way switches are set by highlighting and pointing towards the track/yard you're lined into. Also L on the hud for what the brake cylinders are doing is Lap I think.
Fun fact most german tender engines have tenders that are narrow at the height of the windows so you can see the same as out the front, check out model trains, youll see
Can you tell Greg to make the German 2-10-2 I really like it. You said that you don’t like the single chime whistle but historically the Sitnivitch class 86 came with a single chime whistle or an 8 chime whistle so I’m guessing you would like the 8 chime but I’m not sure, my class 86 has the eight chime and I really like it.(Sitnivitch is the company that made the class 86 & 89 tank engines.)
You should know by now Hyce that you should NEVER foam near a steam locomotive unless it is the Factorio one running nuclear fuel... Otherwise you will extinguish its firebox and how will you get your steam then? :D
also the valves on the dome is a blow down pipe for when the locomotive is finish running for the day the open the valve and all the steam is released it best to open both valves as so not to spray your fireman or worker with superheated steam
These mod steam locos certainly breathe some new life into DV. Thanks for the showcase! I've been playing the Steam DLC for Train Sim World 2 a bit lately though and I've been spoilt by the swaying physics/effects as you run down the rails... someone should do a cab/engine sway mod for DV 😏
you know. I could probably manage some narrow gauge stuff. Germany had a lot of meter gauge steam locos. some of which are similar to the ones I've already made
you know. I could probably manage some narrow gauge stuff. Germany had a lot of meter gauge steam locos. some of which are similar to the ones I've already made
All the models from Greencoast Studios are really high quality, and include that sort of movement you can see. And we’re talking Trainz here 😂. They’re soooo good. Plus, they make the only model of a Pennsy Q2 known for that game (among others).
Sounds like you need Derail Valley's foamer cam: type *player.freecamtoggle* in the console, point at your loco and hit enter on the numpad. Foam to your heart's content as it tracks your loco and can be freely moved around whilst tracking
Hyce, did you know that in Germany a Narrow Gauge version of this engine runs along the Molli Railway and goes through a 1km section of track in the town of Bad Doberen.
Hyce saying "nope" in fast speed is the best part. Also, with the 0-4-0 (0-6-0?) I didn't need to remove the coupler mod. That didn't mess anything up. Also, VALVE GEEEEEEAAAAARRRRR!!!!!
The reason a lot of british (and so some extent european) locos have tiny single chimes is because they operated in highly populated areas at all hours of the day and in high frequency, I think there were some old LSWR commuter tank engines that had larger whistles that had to be replaced due to noise complaints. I think it was M7's?
Either the M7s or the O2s got Caledonian-style hooters attached which were so disruptive as to frighten horses. The Great Western Railway gave it's engines a pair of whistles, one of which was used to alert the guard a brake application was necessary. When both whistles are blown simultaneously, a rather pleasing chime note is issued - although I suspect this is a happy result of the practice as opposed to being by design.
Just saw on Nexus and we got a THIRD steam locomotive. MAV 475 is what is is called and I want to give you a heads up. The center of the firebox has 3 levers, 1 knob. The center knob is the blower, the 2 levers on the side is the INJECTOR and the top lever is the whistle. Drafting mechanism is on the left. Sander is one the right. On the side of the firebox, you have your STEAM dump. The water dump is UNDER the water glass, and it is the darkened lever. Hyce, if you do a video on shunting with the MAV 475, go to the right side and turn the screw reverse from the OUTSIDE of the locomotive, watch the valve gear. I bet you might enjoy it
@@Hyce777 I will warn you, you would be wise to start it up from one of those service platforms where you can fuel up and perform maintenence on the locomotive. Trust me, I found out the hard way, if you know what I mean
Hyce, I found something on Nexus you have to see to believe. A Class B SHAY. Try it, you will not be disappointed. Warning: You will need CCL 1.7 if you want to appear in the game, plus the brakes react slower than usual.
Hyce, I know I made a joke about the Dynamo Generator on Steamies b4, about how they were a cursed Halloween prank, but that previous comment was removed for some reason idk bc it was in my old account, but yknow what I was talking about with the Socalled Dynamo being a fake Missile for during the wars of Halloween pranks but still it's a great one for all railroaders to get in on the fun to talk about the silliness of that bullet shaped thingy. I'm Ella and it's Grow Time!!!!!
This is really cool! Great vid as always. One of my favorite chonky tank engines is the Minarets 2-10-2T. It was a really odd one off built for logging. Love that thing, shame it didn’t get preserved.
Watching you take that grade with the throttle cracked all the way open and full hurricane blower was a glorious thing. I swear I could smell it through the screen 🤣
Oh man, love the 86 tank but hard nerding out over the TW tanker, nerdy facts, the prototype is for the 5ft 3in (or Irish gauge) Victorian railways, it was the larger size of the TW class (we had a lot of one-off tankers in our system), and was known to be branded for golden fleece fuel or plain black. But oh heck, it fits perfectly in DV
Ooooo yess ... a beauty! Maybe Maybe they reach the 52 someday. Is it me or the entire model plus the inside are really really unpolished? Is this work in progress?
great to see your enthusiasm, makes for great video's. The time fly's by watching. But's it's a no-no to use the coupler from the loco, alway's use the one from the wagon. It's cheaper to set the wagon aside when the coupler breaks then to bring the loco in for repairs. Now let's see some explodie boy's do what there named for!
Fun fact: when 4018 was moved, it took so long to get onto the main that when they reached the wye south of Fair Park, the decision was made to shove from there all the way to Irving (about 15 miles), and the crew still ended up getting relieved at Union Station.
Hey Hyce, if you want extra money there is a mod you can use , the DVSGE , run as administrator then on the left side of the box is where you can type in any amount of money you want , then save do not exit out , then start derail valley and look at your wallet, whatever amount you typed in will be there
If I remember right that was one of the Übergang skriegslokomotive which where German war locomotives there are 5 left in service hauling coal in Bosnia they where only supposed to last 10 years then be replaced but somehow they still push on I recommend watching mark felon on those 5
Since you had so much fun playing with British locomotives last time you should try the new British steam locomotives coming out in train Sim world 2 on May 31st
Question how did you get custom car loader to work I’ve tried finding a guide as I cannot get it to play ball but nothing lol. Would be cool if the modding community gave locos like this to railroads online
@@Hyce777 lol I’ll have another crack at it oh and thank you I forgot about the discord lol, this engine though is very sweet and like you said the little detail are normally missed in big simulator games
Love the German made Steam Engines, I hope we see more custom locos in this game from a lot of nations. Would LOVE to see an Alco MLW FP-4 in the game and a lot of the EMD in general really.
oh, i was driving this same steam engine in MINECRAFT today actually (modded obviously...), who knew id see it in a derail valley video, and to think ill even be getting this game tmrw is also cool (0:33)
Now I want to see an NZR Ka or Ab mod for this game. Also, interesting fact about German steam locomotive design: Unlike British and American tender locomotives, which ran better in one direction only, German tender engines were designed to go both ways equally.
Many post WW2 BR standard loco tenders in UK had a narrow coal compartment with windshields at the cab end for working safely and comfortably 'backwards'. Some earlier designs, and most built for the war effort (including the US manufactured S160s), also had this feature for maximum flexibility. They tended to be smaller machines up to class 4MT, used on secondary lines and branches. Larger freight and express passenger locos on the main lines particulalry continued with their bigger full height full width tenders for maximum range and were severely speed limited when running reverse due to poor visibility, so had to be turned.
@@Hyce777 joy was used predominantly by the Lancashire and Yorkshire and the London north western in the uk. It’s a ideal learning valve gear as it’s so simple
Generally because when it comes to animation you're not actually dealing with like... physics. rather you're doing your best to simulate it with Inverse Kinematics. This setup is about 95% IK, with only the valve spindle being animated by hand.
![[DV] Putting the DRG Class 89 to the test with MY EXPLODY BOIS over the road!](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/-s_T__45cRg/mqdefault.jpg)
Mission 'Turn Hyce into a Foamer': Success ✅
Was the animation of adjusting the radius rod because of his complaining on the 89, or is that something you were wanting to do anyway?
@@Ronald.Golleher Little bit of both.
@@greggorytame6672 looks great, awesome work!
very cool, hope to see you continue with the german mods, maybe even some rolling stock
Next mission: Mallard speedster, Big Boy.
seeing Hyce's joy at the radius arm being properly animated is precious.
Absolute nerdgasm moment.
The red running gear is great for finding damage or cracks, since the dirt/grime sticks to the cracks and creates a easy to see black line.
And Polish locos additionally had the tyres white 😉
5:18 You´re right! Usually in german german locomotives:
The round type of heat exchanger is a "Oberflächen-Vorwärmer" (surface pre-heater), where the cold water flows through pipes surrounded by used steam. The square type, seen on "Reko" (Rebuild) locomotives (In East Germany from 1960 onward) mixes the used steam with the cold water. It´s called "Misch-Vorwärmer" (Mixing pre-heater).
It´s the easiest way to tell apart a "Altbau" (older build, which means pre-1945) locomotive from a "Reko" (Rebuild) locomotive.
To Greg, if you see this the gauge glass as modelled is the protective shield around the glass tube that contains the actual water. The shield should not contain any water, its only job is to protect the tube from being damaged and protect the crew from the steam and water should the glass tube break. Otherwise the cab is nicely done. The valve gear is excellent.
Oh bother, you're right 😅
I'll see about revising that
And also, maybe even more important - you swapped directions of the throttle. In real, when the lever is at full right the throttle is completely closed (in German zu - Z)*, and the more left it goes, the more you open it (O). I'm used to that the brakes in DV work opposite to their real life origins, but a mirrored throttle is kinda new to me (or I wasn't attentive enough).
*I'm referring to the letters, which can be found on most valves/cranks in a german steam loco cab and on the throttle indicator, f.e. in 20:30
If you ever visit Germany, the largest narrow guage Steamlocomotive network in Germany is the HSB "Harzer Schmalspurbahn" (Harz Mountainrange narrow guage railroad).
They are very special in many ways:
- 140km (87mi) of Steam powered meter gauge railway. With extentions considered
- A tunnel
- A turnig loop (like on streetcars)
- A short street running section.
- A station at a college campus, so you can commute to university by steam locomotive.
- a siding where you have to back out, so only a single switch.
(legally the siding it's a station but no person or cargo is allowed to enter or alight).
- A, section where also actual streetcars operate (by using a secondary diesel engine)
- if you enjoy hiking it also a great hiking region within a national park.
Also the network is not entirely tailored to tourism they also provide a rudimentary commuter/regional rail service but obviously the majority of revenue comes only from the line up to the mountain peak for those who are to lazy to hike up just two to three hours.
You would really enjoy it there.
That sounds awesome!
I agree with Hyce, that's quite an interesting thing. Has this stayed in service, or was it brought back as a tourist railroad like the main ones Hyce talks about (Cumbres and Toltec, Georgetown Loop, and Durango and Silverton) in Colorado?
@@Ronald.Golleher
It has mostly stayed in service throughout, the exeption being the route up the Brocken mountain (which was reserved for military purposes, then closed down for a while before reactivated). Most of their rolling stock is also original from this network and has never seen retirement, and they have taken in some locomotives from former railways since (the highlight being a 0-4-4-0 Mallet tank engine from the 1800s which also sees nearly daily service).
@@mikeblatzheim2797 The 99.72-73s are also interesting. These 2-10-2s are the most powerfull german narrow gauge locos. Ofcourse dwarfed by the american stuff.
And it's so cool that they somewhat fit with the game's setting
Can't wait to see some of the big german locomotives with tenders and wind deflectors, hopefully
You've probably have gotten like 10 comments on this already but yes, Most of smokebox's engines have the valve gear animated for every reverser position. (Save for the 2-8-0 Connie, which was all the way back in 2013) But For everything else it is there. It's actually the thing that takes the longest to animate for him I believe. Incredible Model for this though, Stoked that this game is finally getting cool cool shit like this.
My favourite big tank engine is the Great Western Railway's own 2-8-2, the '7200' class. But this thing is so brilliant in its own way, amazing to have it in game!
Man I love german trains. As a kid I had an 86, a 52 and an 03
Hyce has extremely contagious excitement. Hearing him get excited makes me excited and I don't even know how valve gear works
a short note about the cab of the engine: Class 89 and 86 were indeed closely related. In general the engines designed in DRG period (1921 - 1940) really used as many common parts as possible, servicinge the engines was just way easier if you could take the engine apart and just rebuild it with already serviced parts. The prussians did that already to a great extend before WWI - just look at their classes P8, G10 and T16 as example, they share almost everything.
The cab being nearly identical also goes back to that standardization effort.
The Class 86 is actually considered to be a medium engine. The T20/Class 95 or the Class 94 (bavarian GT 4x4) are the heavyweights of german tank engines.
BTW: Germany did not use any US-Parts back then in any railway application - the railway was a national agency, not a private company since it was considered critical infrastructure.
not only do i love this, Zeibach updated his couplers to theoretically work with tank engine bois (and the knuckles are walkable). also cant heckin wait for those tank cars
I've been told they have been released since i filmed!
@@Hyce777 I just looked em up and yup. they are lovely. also did some testing. the couplers work with both new choo choos. not sure if the steamer overhaul is screwing up the valve-gear cuz the radius rods in my game arent moving
Someone needs to make an Erie L-1 class for Derail Valley. I can already imagine running from the cab to the back to shovel coal, then running back to the cab to keep driving the thing.
That sounds horrendous, but would be perfect for multi-player
@@Ronald.Golleher Plus, that thing's an 0-8-8-0, so it doesn't have leading or trailing wheels, and the whole point of leading wheels is to improve stability in corners, so derailing the thing probably wouldn't be too difficult.
@@sambrown6426 if that is modeled. Not sure if that would be a physics engine thing to add, or if it's something it takes into account already. Like what's the base game difference between SH2-8-2, DE4, and DE6 as far as wheel arrangement in derail calculations?
@@Ronald.Golleher Plus, the L1 is articulated, and I'm not sure if the physics engine would support that.
The L1s fire box is in the back and also I'm pretty sure it had an auger to feed the coal into the fire box.
DR BR 86, one of my favourite locomotives! They were perfect all around machines for both passenger and freight service.
Also you should see the 2-12-4 tank engine Germans build for the Bulgarians I believe. It makes this thing look tiny!
One of these Class 86s (owned by a private company) still performs occasional shunting duties in the port of Hamburg, here's a video of it in action:
ruclips.net/video/Xs5nrbPQW5o/видео.html
It's quite a sight to behold in front of modern container cars.
man, that is awesome! this has to be one of, if not THE best locomotive mod so far! not to mention the cars are beautifully made as well. man, the modding community is just phenomenal! now all we need is someone modding *_-A BIG BOY-_* (just kidding) North American/United States locomotives and rolling stock into Derail Valley!
I love big tank engines. There's something very absurd about an engine that large being a tank engine. Much like the British Rail 4MT, which is another one I am a big fan of. I guess that's why I'm looking forward to some of the chonky Uintah tank engines for Railroads Online
I would love for someone to make that.
Look up Br 84, it's an even bigger one with 5 driven axles.
@@jan_franzke Yea. I've seen them. They are so cool
@@jan_franzke I just did and good lord, that thing looks cool. Had to search "drg class 84", since "br class 84" brings up a British Railways electric locomotive.
Look up the BDZ 46 class. A 2-12-4 tank engine from Bulgaria.
Best of all two survive and one operates.
Everything on german locomotives was german! Including the dynamo. ;) I think the dynamos were built by AEG (Allgemeine Elektricitäts-Gesellschaft) but can't verify, pics that show builders plates are hard to come by.
The Kunze-Knorr system was the german counterpart to the Westinghouse brake. The air pump on the model is the Nielebock-Knorr doppelverbundluftpumpe, or double/cross compound.
As mentioned elsewhere the 86 was part of the einhetslok standardization program that started in the 1920s, every loco is built from a set of standardized parts which is why german steamers look the same. The gains in cost and servicability was the drive force behind this radical move as a common part from an 86 could be replaced with a common part from an 01.
You could say the DB/DRG was the Pennsy of europe. ;)
A playlist with lots of german/european locos for you to study, it shows many great contrasts between american and european locomotive building and operation practices:
ruclips.net/p/PLvnHDnL1qXo825lEZJmZGibPsHPC-VAcg
The buffest engine in Germany got a vacation to Hyce's messy Railroad:
I feel it's very appropriate that, being located in Germany, I get a whole bunch of Deutsche Bahn ads while watching a video featuring a DRG locomotive.
Great video, love the enthusiasm!
Hyce playing with new toys.
and of course to make the Moola = you gotta haul the Splodey Boi's.
the sheer joy of Hyce seeing a correctly modeled Valve Train!
I know nearly nothing about steam, but it seems like the perfect avenue for Germans to go hard on the crazy engineering.
It was super cool to talk to you a bit in person today at the CRM!
Cheers mate!n
This class of engine was at a Belgian steam festival where you could ride passenger trains and way more stuff but this engine (the New engine in the vid ) was pulling a train when its safety valve burst and well the fireman and driver were severely burned but recovered.
(a little story about that engine cause why not)
That was fun! Thanks Hyce, Greg, and Katy for your work, it's inspiring :)
Hyce the man who loves Durango and Rio Grande engines and drives DB DRG locomotive without thinking things are different in Duatchland haha good job mate
Something even bigger whould be class 65. That is a Berkshire tank locomotive with the east german version having 63" drivers and being able to go 90 km/h. Pretty much my favorite german tank locomotive because its pretty big.
*Liked* Solely for Hyces reaction to the accuracy of the model and all the motion, because God knows I would be the exact same way, giddy with excitement. If you give 'em enough, everyone is a foamer. And the HL2 reference, you're not the only one. Welcome to City 17
Hyce foaming at how good the train looks is the kind of wholesome nerd shit we subscribed for.
one last thing: if you use the lean keys(Q & E), you can phase into the firebox. that makes lighting the fire *SO* much easier!
also, it appears that this locomotive models proper fire management! too much coal added, and the fire actually starts dieing out(because irl, the sudden increase in coal smothers the flames somewhat). that's why you had to keep the blower on climbing out of the Harbor & Town.
The cab is the same because that was one of the goals of the 'Einheitslok' programme.
Depending on the year modeled the generator will have multiple frequency specific rotors for the Indusi safety system.
Maximum speed is 70 kmh
I see they're bringing Steam in a DLC to Train Sim World 2. Lets hope they get it all right. I'll probably buy it. Still working through Horse Shoe Curve content. Speaking of... was running down it with 11000 Tons and it started to rain. Turns out wet rails is a thing in TSW2. To add to my problems I didn't realize my trailing Loco(there were 3 on the head end) wasn't configured correctly and the Dynamics did NOTHING. I went through the Horse Shoe 20mph over the speed limit and mumbling "oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit Ima bout to have a Kenosha moment before I can get to Altoona!" I was in Full service and Dynamic 8 and she was just slip sliding all the way down.
The yardtrack/placeyard yardtrack/placeyard on the hud are indicators of which way switches are set by highlighting and pointing towards the track/yard you're lined into.
Also L on the hud for what the brake cylinders are doing is Lap I think.
Fun fact most german tender engines have tenders that are narrow at the height of the windows so you can see the same as out the front, check out model trains, youll see
Can you tell Greg to make the German 2-10-2 I really like it. You said that you don’t like the single chime whistle but historically the Sitnivitch class 86 came with a single chime whistle or an 8 chime whistle so I’m guessing you would like the 8 chime but I’m not sure, my class 86 has the eight chime and I really like it.(Sitnivitch is the company that made the class 86 & 89 tank engines.)
Cool! um… do you know what sitnivitch sorda sounds like? Lol
man my mouth dropped seeing that radius arm animate! also love those large chuffing animations from the stack.
You should know by now Hyce that you should NEVER foam near a steam locomotive unless it is the Factorio one running nuclear fuel...
Otherwise you will extinguish its firebox and how will you get your steam then? :D
also the valves on the dome is a blow down pipe for when the locomotive is finish running for the day the open the valve and all the steam is released it best to open both valves as so not to spray your fireman or worker with superheated steam
These mod steam locos certainly breathe some new life into DV. Thanks for the showcase! I've been playing the Steam DLC for Train Sim World 2 a bit lately though and I've been spoilt by the swaying physics/effects as you run down the rails... someone should do a cab/engine sway mod for DV 😏
i cant wait to see what the modding community does with railroads online since they've done such a great job with derail valley
you know. I could probably manage some narrow gauge stuff. Germany had a lot of meter gauge steam locos. some of which are similar to the ones I've already made
you know. I could probably manage some narrow gauge stuff. Germany had a lot of meter gauge steam locos. some of which are similar to the ones I've already made
All the models from Greencoast Studios are really high quality, and include that sort of movement you can see. And we’re talking Trainz here 😂. They’re soooo good. Plus, they make the only model of a Pennsy Q2 known for that game (among others).
I love this guys video’s, I found home like a week ago and now I know even more about trains.
Sounds like you need Derail Valley's foamer cam:
type *player.freecamtoggle* in the console, point at your loco and hit enter on the numpad.
Foam to your heart's content as it tracks your loco and can be freely moved around whilst tracking
Hyce, did you know that in Germany a Narrow Gauge version of this engine runs along the Molli Railway and goes through a 1km section of track in the town of Bad Doberen.
I think I've seen videos of that!
3:33 ITS THE BANANA!
Hyped to see the 05, 01 and 52 and whatever else big you can think off
This is one of my favorite engines in Train Simulator
Best promotional video for the mod.
Also this is very well animated loco mod. Some great beauty shots
Nice Class 86 Model, Looks awesome!
The only thing that bugs me about it are the square buffers, round ones would be more apropriate.
I've already fixed them. I had to get this model to Hyce early before he went on vacation, and simply didn't have time
Yep Smokebox models in TS2022 have fully animated valve gear. Love seeing this kind of attention to detail from modelers.
Smokebox's engines do have accurately animated valve gear
Hyce saying "nope" in fast speed is the best part. Also, with the 0-4-0 (0-6-0?) I didn't need to remove the coupler mod. That didn't mess anything up. Also, VALVE GEEEEEEAAAAARRRRR!!!!!
2:20 - "no, no, no" Not only are your videos informative, who knew you were a comedic champion? Congratulations Hyce!
Good Googly moogly that's one amazing engine. The valve gear animation is Awsome!
The reason a lot of british (and so some extent european) locos have tiny single chimes is because they operated in highly populated areas at all hours of the day and in high frequency, I think there were some old LSWR commuter tank engines that had larger whistles that had to be replaced due to noise complaints. I think it was M7's?
Either the M7s or the O2s got Caledonian-style hooters attached which were so disruptive as to frighten horses. The Great Western Railway gave it's engines a pair of whistles, one of which was used to alert the guard a brake application was necessary. When both whistles are blown simultaneously, a rather pleasing chime note is issued - although I suspect this is a happy result of the practice as opposed to being by design.
Just saw on Nexus and we got a THIRD steam locomotive. MAV 475 is what is is called and I want to give you a heads up. The center of the firebox has 3 levers, 1 knob. The center knob is the blower, the 2 levers on the side is the INJECTOR and the top lever is the whistle. Drafting mechanism is on the left. Sander is one the right. On the side of the firebox, you have your STEAM dump. The water dump is UNDER the water glass, and it is the darkened lever.
Hyce, if you do a video on shunting with the MAV 475, go to the right side and turn the screw reverse from the OUTSIDE of the locomotive, watch the valve gear. I bet you might enjoy it
Gonna have to check it out!
@@Hyce777 I will warn you, you would be wise to start it up from one of those service platforms where you can fuel up and perform maintenence on the locomotive. Trust me, I found out the hard way, if you know what I mean
@@cjstrader8171 I believe it. Thanks for the tip.
Hyce, I found something on Nexus you have to see to believe. A Class B SHAY. Try it, you will not be disappointed. Warning: You will need CCL 1.7 if you want to appear in the game, plus the brakes react slower than usual.
I can't believe we went an entire DV video without an Earth-shattering kaboom lol
Hyce, I know I made a joke about the Dynamo Generator on Steamies b4, about how they were a cursed Halloween prank, but that previous comment was removed for some reason idk bc it was in my old account, but yknow what I was talking about with the Socalled Dynamo being a fake Missile for during the wars of Halloween pranks but still it's a great one for all railroaders to get in on the fun to talk about the silliness of that bullet shaped thingy.
I'm Ella and it's Grow Time!!!!!
Nice. Valve gear. But no explodey bits. Love your work
your excitement is as good as the engine. shes a beaut
This is really cool! Great vid as always.
One of my favorite chonky tank engines is the Minarets 2-10-2T. It was a really odd one off built for logging. Love that thing, shame it didn’t get preserved.
Watching you take that grade with the throttle cracked all the way open and full hurricane blower was a glorious thing. I swear I could smell it through the screen 🤣
*insert screenshot of Edna Mode from the incredible staring at the raging inferno*
That’s a metal image right there haha. It’s like you can do nothing more than cross your arms and lean on the window and stare at trees 🤣
Nice job as all ways love that you say explody boys
Oh man, love the 86 tank but hard nerding out over the TW tanker, nerdy facts, the prototype is for the 5ft 3in (or Irish gauge) Victorian railways, it was the larger size of the TW class (we had a lot of one-off tankers in our system), and was known to be branded for golden fleece fuel or plain black. But oh heck, it fits perfectly in DV
I love it when he plays derail valley his commentary is always priceless
hyce had a lot of fun today good for you
Ah yes, the BR 86! I'll see it this year when i'll go to the Schwarzenberg railway museum :D
Ooooo yess ... a beauty! Maybe Maybe they reach the 52 someday.
Is it me or the entire model plus the inside are really really unpolished? Is this work in progress?
It's more of a limitation as to how much detail you can cram into these things.
at this point it's about 12k tris more than the SH 2-8-2.
great to see your enthusiasm, makes for great video's. The time fly's by watching. But's it's a no-no to use the coupler from the loco, alway's use the one from the wagon. It's cheaper to set the wagon aside when the coupler breaks then to bring the loco in for repairs. Now let's see some explodie boy's do what there named for!
Oh that makes sense! Didn't think of that as I don't really use buffer and chains irl. Makes a lot of sense though.
Fun fact: when 4018 was moved, it took so long to get onto the main that when they reached the wye south of Fair Park, the decision was made to shove from there all the way to Irving (about 15 miles), and the crew still ended up getting relieved at Union Station.
Beautiful loco and nice video!
-greetings from Germany ;)
I like the window visibility on that thing. I might have to get me some modded engines. I need those tank cars too, for the "asphyxiate" joke.
They've apparently been released since i filmed! Search for them on Nexus mods.
Oh jeeze, I can't wait till walschaerts valve gear engines start appearing in RO
Excited Hyce noises are the best. :3
loved the vid hyce. How did you get the reskin to work with the steam and diesel?
Skin manager, place the skins inside the mod folder and then use the comms radio. There's a lot of broken skins - anything older doesn't work
@@Hyce777 thanks hyce
Hey Hyce, if you want extra money there is a mod you can use , the DVSGE , run as administrator then on the left side of the box is where you can type in any amount of money you want , then save do not exit out , then start derail valley and look at your wallet, whatever amount you typed in will be there
If I remember right that was one of the Übergang skriegslokomotive which where German war locomotives there are 5 left in service hauling coal in Bosnia they where only supposed to last 10 years then be replaced but somehow they still push on I recommend watching mark felon on those 5
There were only a couple models but I think that was one of them I maybe wrong though im not a train expert I just study alot
Since you had so much fun playing with British locomotives last time you should try the new British steam locomotives coming out in train Sim world 2 on May 31st
I would love to see that
Now all we need is a model of 683 or 1026 and we will have a happy hyce lol
Didn’t you say that on 13/05 there would be a first spline update beta? No video about that?
It's releasing on May 20.
How did you download those mods? i cant do it in my game
Nexus mods, check the description.
Needs a skin for "Firecracker Fuels" too! These custom engines and cars are really great!
Question how did you get custom car loader to work I’ve tried finding a guide as I cannot get it to play ball but nothing lol.
Would be cool if the modding community gave locos like this to railroads online
I just installed it and it works? Not sure what to tell you. Check the mod discussions on the DV discord.
@@Hyce777 lol I’ll have another crack at it oh and thank you I forgot about the discord lol, this engine though is very sweet and like you said the little detail are normally missed in big simulator games
Love the German made Steam Engines, I hope we see more custom locos in this game from a lot of nations. Would LOVE to see an Alco MLW FP-4 in the game and a lot of the EMD in general really.
Funny you mention jimmy, he and I grew up going to the model railroad in balboa park.
oh, i was driving this same steam engine in MINECRAFT today actually (modded obviously...), who knew id see it in a derail valley video, and to think ill even be getting this game tmrw is also cool (0:33)
The mikado is i think originally a Czech locomotive from ČKD
Now I want to see an NZR Ka or Ab mod for this game.
Also, interesting fact about German steam locomotive design: Unlike British and American tender locomotives, which ran better in one direction only, German tender engines were designed to go both ways equally.
Well you learn something new every day
Many post WW2 BR standard loco tenders in UK had a narrow coal compartment with windshields at the cab end for working safely and comfortably 'backwards'. Some earlier designs, and most built for the war effort (including the US manufactured S160s), also had this feature for maximum flexibility. They tended to be smaller machines up to class 4MT, used on secondary lines and branches. Larger freight and express passenger locos on the main lines particulalry continued with their bigger full height full width tenders for maximum range and were severely speed limited when running reverse due to poor visibility, so had to be turned.
Unless you have joy valve gear. The. The expansion link is fixed and the die block runs up and down in motion
weird, never heard of that type
@@Hyce777 joy was used predominantly by the Lancashire and Yorkshire and the London north western in the uk. It’s a ideal learning valve gear as it’s so simple
Canada still has steam locomotives like royal Hudson 4-6-4 in Vancouver and Duncan bc has steam locomotives too
I know Hyce likes the double fairley. If there isn’t a mod already, let’s make it a thing
If they ever make a British steam tank engine... hyce is going to have fun, especially if its an E2, the E2 tank engines were massive tank engines
For passenger service, it would be cool seeing a Hudson pulling a 10 car passenger train at 120 mph, or an A4 with 10 cars going around 100mph.
Which makes me wonder if anyone has ever tried making a streamlined engine in this game, or even a passenger engine
That'd be quite lovely, but derail valley has a hard speed limit coded into it at like... 115 or 120 KM/h
@@greggorytame6672 well that"s disappointing
@@Dont14-r4k Hudson is far too heavy for this map, and the map itself is too small for this speed.
Imagine if the madman were to have hyce get references for an American locomotive and he makes one with accuracy hyce would have sheer happiness
my next few locos are some PRR stuff, and he's already been instrumental in finding the reference material I need
@@greggorytame6672 that’s cool to here I’ll be excited for them to be released and hyces enjoyment he will get nerding out over em
Unrelated: What episode did Patrick say "Kicking? I wanna do some kicking!"
Band Geeks. :)
What exactly about the valve gear makes it so difficult to model/animate? Seems strange nobody else has done it
Generally because when it comes to animation you're not actually dealing with like... physics. rather you're doing your best to simulate it with Inverse Kinematics.
This setup is about 95% IK, with only the valve spindle being animated by hand.
I legitemently have this locomotive for my model railway lol
11:45 Ah, yes, Ex-Physiate. Totally didn't use my own name as a suggestion; no fun had when making skins whatsoever 😂