My Tier List S4: d4builds.gg/tierlist/ Watch live at www.twitch.tv/rob2628 Thorns Barb the best Boss Killer? Insane DPS and a incredible Tank, seems you don't need a Necro :D Credits: ruclips.net/video/uWR3-KEmD_M/видео.html Planner: d4builds.gg/builds/0704c20f-68a7-49ed-97da-fc51454a9906/?var=1 Timestamps 00:00 Uber Showcase 01:05 Explanation & Gameplay uber 10:45 Setup 13:30 Skill Tree 14:36 Paragon
He didnt show andariel which was actually one of the things holding me off on this build. How do you kill the totems on andariel if the totems dont attack you? i wish he'd post a video of Andariel but im guessing there is a reason he left it off.
For poeple wanting to do this build i highly recommend to first farm with another build like bash or DD and temper the futur gear to at least 8/12 + with greater affixs because this build is slow as hell and boring for normal content + you need almost perfect tempers + crits on master for leap CD to go under 9sec
I was able to enjoy a variant from 60 or so. Get needle flare aspect from dungeon and put on 2h. Swap warcry for charge during leveling. Leap + charge is a fun combo.
yup like @lucaferrara1317 I also learned the hard way. I built this almost to the T. Got every aspect and every temper and just because the rolls didnt crit I couldnt spam leap. So ye... don't expect to 1 shot ubers unless you are extremely lucky with your rolls.
For the people not leaping that fast even with instant cool down. You need to have frenzy always pushed down while hitting the leap button over and over again. You also need to adjust your cursor a bit. Don't Leap directly on the boss, like a bit in front.
for some reason that doesn't work for me w/ this setup and trying to click that way w/ my mouse. I have brawling c/d reduction on all 3 jewelry, not sure what I'm missing.
For those on controller this is possible with the same amount of quake stacks. You have to alternate between pressing leap while not giving a directional input and then pressing a direction midair and holding it just untill your about landing. Then let off the directional input just before pressing leap again. The timing is pretty difficult but its very doable if you dont give up. I use a razor controller and mapped a paddle to the clutch function for the left stick that allows you to slow down input speed. You dont need this but it made it alot more forgiving for me with the timing on the left stick. Deadzone also can help with making it more forgiving. Also i found using the basic attack was doing the opposite for controller and making it alot harder to spam leap at full speed.
Holy Jeevus, had to drop a quick comment.. Long time Diablo vet, this is one of the most fun builds ever..! Quick context, started a barb build a couple days ago after hitting 100 on my necro, wanted to fool around with thorns and found this vid. At only level 80 with no glyph upgrades, no gems in gear, or any tempers whatsoever, by just piecing together the aspects and serviceable 800ish gear I had at the time, this thing already was slaying. Seriously was taking down the maiden in helltide T4 in less than 10 sec if no one else was with me (need the aggro). Took down Duriel and Andariel already with just the bare aspects.. Thanks Tom and DoNotHitMe, it's a whole new world of domination glee out there, can't wait for the unlimited leap B-)
Quick question: does anyone know how stack the leap against the boss? I have the same setup (equipment, aspects, skills, paragon, glyph), and yet, I am only able to leap the boss 3 times and the leap skill does not automatically reset with the Aspect of Giant Strides. Weird.
Ok folks, it turns out, you need to add 'Leap Cooldown Reduction', at least 10%, from the Barbarian Motion of the Tempering recipes. With it, you can now instant jump the bosses like Mario non stop.
@@neman6592 Forgot to mention, you need to make sure the cooldown timer of leap skill is below 10 seconds, leap skill buff equipment are needed for that.
really?? She one shotted me on my first attempt at 93. Totally untleegraphed from my perspective. Whatever killed me I didnt see. Got her down a whopping 10%.
@@insertnamehere4419 Well S1 Echo of Lillith almost everyone had to be level 100 to kill her. Even then just about anything that touched you killed you. I had that malignant heart that stored up crit and then exploded. I think thats what I used at the time with the thorns build and it was able to work for me to kill her.
I am doing the non Uber build, as I do not have uber uniques, equpment at level 6, one GA (life) on all, and I killed Gregore, Varshan and Zir all Uber. Also, Pit 90 with potions. This build is awesome.
Do you know why the dual-wielded weapons are maces? The implicit Overpower probably isn't doing much for the build, but I suspect there's a reason I'm not immediately noticing.
saw your updated build on d4 builds, the new paragon tree is nice, i dont use marshall though since all it does is reduce leap CD and you dont need it vs bosses, i use exploit instead
Thorns barb is definitely more tanky than Bash, you can easily reach 300k HP (with double elixir active and full master worked + Doombringer) + damage reduction from Frenzy stacks. And second question, Doombriger is definitely a good free in any Thorns build, but it's not necessary, this guy (DoNotHitMe) plays without it.
Where is this build with frenzy and ambidextrous rune? Followed the link and its flay instead and a completely different paragon board. I'm looking for the original frenzy build
I dont know why but i have the same exact build. And for some reason spam leap / jump doesnt work with controller it shows the skill is available to use but it wont let you use it you are just grounded and it doesnt register it idk if its a bug or @@Bnw-uo6zv
The damage boost of rumble is bugged. Pretty sure it’s not intentional. Each damage boost is multiplicative. So when you have 20 earthquakes, instead of getting +200% for 300% damage, you’re getting 1.1^20, for 672%.
It doesn't work somehow or anymore. I have 8.84 sec cooldown of leap and I tried an uber boss, leap animation was so slow, like even if was available for using, it wasn't somehow. Devs did something,I m sure
Hi Rob, can you add a video and link it to the Rogue - Rapid Fire build? Builder differs in that it is a video added on May 6. I can't add atk speed to weapons, the helmet is different from what's in the builder, and the other items are the same. Hardening is also different from what is shown in the video and in the builder. I don't know what he's focusing on anymore. Helmet - different Armor - Maximum Life/Armor Weapons etc. Please help
Like somone said bellow. This build is not a damn joke to put together so make sure spare some time. Because it very important get all the rolls right in the absolute smallest way, so its going to take a while. So dont think you going to look like this build for some time or you are damn lucky with all your rolls. And have a Ton of cash :)) But you will get there and is pretty darn fun.
I did the same build. Same ıtems wıth same aspects. All my glyps are at level 21. But my barb cant jump lıke thıs. There a 10 sec cd. Somhow can ı solve thıs? What am ı doıng wrong ? I trıed dd, ds, and now thıs buıld. So ı am sick of barbarıan. Very weak thıs season for me after charge - hota at season 3. So ı need help badly ın here. Thank you is you reply me.
did you get all reduced brawling cooldown tempers on rings/neck/leap CD temper on boots? full 8% cdr on helm/ammy? multiple points in leap for reduced cd?
do you think that ring of the Ravenous would be a good addition to this build? or is it not worth losing the cooldown reduction on one of the ring slots?
Why I have everything the same and when I make the offensive jump on the boss it doesn't reduce me to 0 seconds like him? I have it every 6 seconds the jump even hitting the boss with the ring aspect on. I do it in controller
Real question is, for a build that's designed to do thorns damage, he is doing an awful lot with his attack abilities aswell, while also not taking a single point of damage without barrier. Meanwhile I'm getting oneshotted by a small snake while armor resistance capped, tons of damage reduction from burning targets and damage reduction debuff on enemies with my sorceress.
Hello Rob, love your content, very interested in putting together a thorn build myself, will the Harlequin Crest and/or grandfather fit into this build? much appreciated.
throns dont crit, so no grandpapa and the %thorns temper on the helm is too important to give up for harlequin. Harlequin is good if you dont have a helmet with cd and need more cd reduction to spam leap. Hope this helps
@@theevil5217 much appreciated for the explanation, i was lucky enough to get the grandpapa from tormented durial, and about to obtain my 4th spark to craft the harlequin crest, any build you would recommend which utilizes these 2 well? Thanks for your time
Guys what is more important for thornsbarb the %dmg increase or the absolute thorns number for razorblade if you consider multiplikitative and addditive dmg?
This build REQUIRES no resources so when you switch out the necklace for Seligs it becomes an insane IMMORTAL thorns build as well. I keep the other neck in the inventory and you can switch them out. Rob you would no doubt improve on mine but when you use no resources and spamming frenzy I don't even need to put additional resource building on the gear.
how can you leap multiple times per second? tried to copy this build and my leap is instant ready on bosses like in your vid but it won't trigger multiple times per second - it almost feels like i have an internal 1-1.5s CD altho leap is already ready (at least visually in my skill bar)
i prefer original bash with any extra dps version like rupture or hota. Its not about a high number its about the consistency of dps. Hiting like maniac with bash constantly criting 50-100 millions is the top dps
geiles Build, verstehe nur den "Erdbeben Aspekt vom Aufstampfen nicht? od zählt der "im Erdbeben stehen is X % mehr dmg " auch wenn dieser aspekt nicht ausgelöst wird durch aufstampfen? nur bei mir funkt das ned mal annähernd so wie in den Video leider^^- auch die werte von paar Hundert K Life ?? keinen schimmer wie man auf solche werte kommt ??
How does he have all that leap CDR though? I'm doing this build and still have at minimum an 8 second window between leaps. I have the aspects, a cdr helm and amulet, and the relevant tempers
seems that way, super annoying because i just got all the gear and respecced thorns. I can breeze through the game, but without the spamming mechanic bosses are pretty bad
Does anyone know how to get your dust devils to do crit all the time ? Do dust devils crit dmg based of your crit chance and crit dmg? Or is it it's own seperate crit chance proc?
man why you talking out of your ass, "clearly a bug" ? "should be 1 instance"? the glyph literally reads " 10x increased damage to bosses for EACH active earthquake, there is a reason they added earthquake duration temper mods
@@TaherAbdelazim It is the Earthquake Aspect applying its 50% damage buff for each stack of Earthquake. There are two Earthquake damage buffs in this build: the one from Rumble: 10% for each active earthquake the second one is Earthquake Aspect: 50%(2H) if you are standing in an Earthquake.
I’ve been playing thorns since pre season and attacks that apply dots don’t proc thorns at all. For example the boss bramble his main attack had a physical damage portion of it that do proc thorns but the poison portion of the attack will not proc thorns. So poison dmg ticks will not proc any thorns dmg.
You need really good Cdr Rolls on Helmet and Amulet, then tempering Brawling Cdr on Rings and then Leap Cdr on Boots. and i think you even have to hit some of the Cdr stats with masterworking
Great build!!! Quick question though, why do you have the power leap upgrade selected when we aren't really using fury? I might be missing something, I'm fairly new!
After huge investments in gold and tempering materials, it's great to take out mobs but my single dps, especially on bosses doesn't do that spike damage...like at all. Is it working for anybody?
If you dont hit anything you get 4 seconds (in the skill modification). 1 enemy max 5s (unless in amulet 7.5s), and max 9s at once. I have on my leap CD on 7.34s with 24.5% CD reduction. If you want to jump infinitely you need around 60% if your base CD is less than 10 seconds. Cap is 75% CD..
@@rgzulim75 you force movement with left Mouse button (check control settings to setup), and then spam your leap button at the same time. Just make sure you jump on boss or multiple minions.
@@rgzulim75 there are settings in controls to use 'force movement' Rob has it on Mouse scroll. I use Left Mouse button. Yes, you constantly force movement to break leap animation. This way you can spam it way more frequently.
get all the reduced brawling skill cooldown tempers on jewlery, and leap CD reduc temper on boots. also make sure you have CDR on help and neck and multiple points on leap if you get low rolls for tempers.
How does he keep leaping? I tried this, have 8.8 leap cd, and toolbar shows no cooldown after hitting a boss, but leap has long (about a second) animation of a barb standing after slamming the ground. I managedd to skip it with a frenzy attack, but it leads to less stacks of earthquakes (I have up to 11, not 20 as here). What am I doing wrong? UPD: seems that just clicking a force move button while holding the leap button helps to cancel the animation
Some mentioned moving a hair and I tried that and it seems to work, if you can move just a fraction after the leap instead of frenzy I can get it to spam like the video, but i was running into the same damn issue.
I tried it out you don't even need the thorn armor to do this. I think the earthquake is bugged. Because I play a different thorn build and it's not doing so well.
4,111,089,408 Among tons of other 500k+ hits at the same time. That is the only number that sticks out so its kinda weird. What would make a normal 500k hit suddenly hit 8000x bigger for a single hit? Sounds like a bug lol.
Search for leap or stomp on the aspect occultist. I believe you need two in order to work. One activates earth the other resets leap. Or something like that
Leap over ult now? I am currently trying your original S4 thorns build (3 shouts, frenzy, chains, ult) and it is going well at lvl 60. I am curious if it would be worthwhile to dump Wrath ult for Leap.
Hallo zusammen, mein Barb ist auch Lvl100 und noch ausbaufähig. Die Dungeons sind okay,aber ich habe Probleme mit den Bossen. Obwohl ich ab und zu einen gewaltigen Hit vom Boss bekomme,bekommt er keinen Schaden. Woran kann das liegen? Versuche mich beim Bosskampf von allem treffen zu lassen, aber gefühlt macht fast nur Frenzy Schaden.
In terms of uber bosses killer, which build is better? Thorn-barb or Bash barb? I saw your video killing Echo of Lilth with Bash barb. It's quite fast and easy.
ive been using the bash build and the damage output/survivability will start to cap at tier 90-92 ND and/or level 65-67 at The Pits. im thinking thorns build prollys what i need to progress.
@@MisterGribblesbash barb here I run tier 100 ND and lvl 80 pit in less than 4 mins and I'm only 8/12 mw lvls atm, also no greater affixed so I think your knowledge on where we cap out is not accurate I still have a massive amount of upgrades to make
Everyone saying you can’t do this on console aren’t paying close enough attention. He’s moving while spamming Leap on KBM too. It’s just more cumbersome to do this with a controller because moving is also aiming Leap. Just Leap, move a smidge, let go of stick and leap in place, repeat. It’s really not that hard to do on console 😅 it’s just a mechanic to practice until they move skill aiming to the right stick
My Tier List S4: d4builds.gg/tierlist/
Watch live at www.twitch.tv/rob2628
Thorns Barb the best Boss Killer? Insane DPS and a incredible Tank, seems you don't need a Necro :D
Credits: ruclips.net/video/uWR3-KEmD_M/видео.html
Planner: d4builds.gg/builds/0704c20f-68a7-49ed-97da-fc51454a9906/?var=1
Timestamps
00:00 Uber Showcase
01:05 Explanation & Gameplay uber
10:45 Setup
13:30 Skill Tree
14:36 Paragon
hier Rob ich hab dir mal mein Kill zum Vergleich aufgenommen
Skillung und Paragon ist das selbe ruclips.net/video/BBo1A0dubKI/видео.html
how does he keep spamming leap
He didnt show andariel which was actually one of the things holding me off on this build. How do you kill the totems on andariel if the totems dont attack you? i wish he'd post a video of Andariel but im guessing there is a reason he left it off.
@@NeroJi-t9zyou figure it out maybe?
Season 5 Math Reborn
For poeple wanting to do this build i highly recommend to first farm with another build like bash or DD and temper the futur gear to at least 8/12 + with greater affixs because this build is slow as hell and boring for normal content + you need almost perfect tempers + crits on master for leap CD to go under 9sec
thx for the tip
I was able to enjoy a variant from 60 or so. Get needle flare aspect from dungeon and put on 2h. Swap warcry for charge during leveling. Leap + charge is a fun combo.
I learned that the hard way
There is no way you get the earthquake buff to 21 without perfect earthquake duration % temper and masterwork
yup like @lucaferrara1317 I also learned the hard way. I built this almost to the T. Got every aspect and every temper and just because the rolls didnt crit I couldnt spam leap. So ye... don't expect to 1 shot ubers unless you are extremely lucky with your rolls.
I upvote, farmed an entire day to do the swap. Now i'm slow and the game is not fun anymore. Will reroll necro now.
The big spike is the “chance to…” affix from razor plate procing with the multipliers.
For the people not leaping that fast even with instant cool down.
You need to have frenzy always pushed down while hitting the leap button over and over again.
You also need to adjust your cursor a bit. Don't Leap directly on the boss, like a bit in front.
for some reason that doesn't work for me w/ this setup and trying to click that way w/ my mouse. I have brawling c/d reduction on all 3 jewelry, not sure what I'm missing.
@@patrickf1384 there's definitely something to this infinite leap that isn't being explained properly
For those on controller this is possible with the same amount of quake stacks. You have to alternate between pressing leap while not giving a directional input and then pressing a direction midair and holding it just untill your about landing. Then let off the directional input just before pressing leap again. The timing is pretty difficult but its very doable if you dont give up. I use a razor controller and mapped a paddle to the clutch function for the left stick that allows you to slow down input speed. You dont need this but it made it alot more forgiving for me with the timing on the left stick. Deadzone also can help with making it more forgiving. Also i found using the basic attack was doing the opposite for controller and making it alot harder to spam leap at full speed.
Thanks I couldn’t figure out why I couldn’t spam it
@@jacobnovotka6823 your welcome and good luck
Holy Jeevus, had to drop a quick comment.. Long time Diablo vet, this is one of the most fun builds ever..! Quick context, started a barb build a couple days ago after hitting 100 on my necro, wanted to fool around with thorns and found this vid. At only level 80 with no glyph upgrades, no gems in gear, or any tempers whatsoever, by just piecing together the aspects and serviceable 800ish gear I had at the time, this thing already was slaying. Seriously was taking down the maiden in helltide T4 in less than 10 sec if no one else was with me (need the aggro). Took down Duriel and Andariel already with just the bare aspects.. Thanks Tom and DoNotHitMe, it's a whole new world of domination glee out there, can't wait for the unlimited leap B-)
It’s so good to see Rob Happy about a Barb build 😊. Here’s to season of Necros and Barbs lol
barb is every season
@@overpowerrd lmao
Quick question:
does anyone know how stack the leap against the boss? I have the same setup (equipment, aspects, skills, paragon, glyph), and yet, I am only able to leap the boss 3 times and the leap skill does not automatically reset with the Aspect of Giant Strides. Weird.
I'm having the same issue.
Ok folks, it turns out, you need to add 'Leap Cooldown Reduction', at least 10%, from the Barbarian Motion of the Tempering recipes.
With it, you can now instant jump the bosses like Mario non stop.
I did and it still didn't work unfort.@@GreasyFox
@@neman6592 Forgot to mention, you need to make sure the cooldown timer of leap skill is below 10 seconds, leap skill buff equipment are needed for that.
@@GreasyFox Buddy, I even have approx 8.84 seconds, as a cooldown. Is it not enough ?
Thorns barb was how I first killed Echo of Lillith in Season 1.
really?? She one shotted me on my first attempt at 93. Totally untleegraphed from my perspective. Whatever killed me I didnt see. Got her down a whopping 10%.
@@insertnamehere4419 Well S1 Echo of Lillith almost everyone had to be level 100 to kill her. Even then just about anything that touched you killed you. I had that malignant heart that stored up crit and then exploded. I think thats what I used at the time with the thorns build and it was able to work for me to kill her.
Thorns also works really well on necro with razorplate
Ohh sick will check that out soon!
Will razorplate work for minnions too?
Accidentally found this out putting thorns on a Golem build without razorplate. But yeah Thorns are a monster this season.
unfortunately its bugged right now
Yesss the summons deals too much damage with razorplate.@@otherguytv7649
I am doing the non Uber build, as I do not have uber uniques, equpment at level 6, one GA (life) on all, and I killed Gregore, Varshan and Zir all Uber. Also, Pit 90 with potions. This build is awesome.
Do you know why the dual-wielded weapons are maces? The implicit Overpower probably isn't doing much for the build, but I suspect there's a reason I'm not immediately noticing.
probably just found ones with great stats and managed to temper them well. id rather have axes too
saw your updated build on d4 builds, the new paragon tree is nice, i dont use marshall though since all it does is reduce leap CD and you dont need it vs bosses, i use exploit instead
Is this build more facetanky/mistake forgiving/easy then bash for tormented/ubers?
Is doombringer important for the build?
Thorns barb is definitely more tanky than Bash, you can easily reach 300k HP (with double elixir active and full master worked + Doombringer) + damage reduction from Frenzy stacks.
And second question, Doombriger is definitely a good free in any Thorns build, but it's not necessary, this guy (DoNotHitMe) plays without it.
Do you people ecwr click build links?
@@afklovec His most recent build has an insane Doombringer incorporated with it, so I think he has started using it.
1 shot is where you spam several close to no dmg attacks, and then one to do the 99%, like emptying a mag of an ak47 and hitting hs the last round.
Where is this build with frenzy and ambidextrous rune?
Followed the link and its flay instead and a completely different paragon board.
I'm looking for the original frenzy build
What they DONT say is that the build doesn't work on CONTROLLER . only mouse and keyboard
? Why
You CAN NOT spam leap/jump . You are stuck grounded
@@jackelgraves4829are you sure it’s not because you don’t have cooldowns
I dont know why but i have the same exact build. And for some reason spam leap / jump doesnt work with controller it shows the skill is available to use but it wont let you use it you are just grounded and it doesnt register it idk if its a bug or @@Bnw-uo6zv
@thatoneblackkid5297 the skill shows it available and everything I click the button to use the jump and it doesn't register. There is no cool down .
how does he jump every ½ sec. mine can first jump when the spell is ready.
The damage boost of rumble is bugged. Pretty sure it’s not intentional. Each damage boost is multiplicative. So when you have 20 earthquakes, instead of getting +200% for 300% damage, you’re getting 1.1^20, for 672%.
will the harlequin crest work for this build?
Bro how you do the earthquick so fast? I do the build and i cant do It, 3 or 4 sec i have to wait everytime
It doesn't work somehow or anymore. I have 8.84 sec cooldown of leap and I tried an uber boss, leap animation was so slow, like even if was available for using, it wasn't somehow. Devs did something,I m sure
I play this build but cant do multiple jumps… is there a trick?
cooldown reduction and giant strides. it's also easier on ubers since giant strides will always get the max benefit when fighting them.
Hi Rob, can you add a video and link it to the Rogue - Rapid Fire build?
Builder differs in that it is a video added on May 6.
I can't add atk speed to weapons, the helmet is different from what's in the builder, and the other items are the same.
Hardening is also different from what is shown in the video and in the builder.
I don't know what he's focusing on anymore.
Helmet - different
Armor - Maximum Life/Armor
Weapons etc.
Please help
Like somone said bellow. This build is not a damn joke to put together so make sure spare some time. Because it very important get all the rolls right in the absolute smallest way, so its going to take a while. So dont think you going to look like this build for some time or you are damn lucky with all your rolls. And have a Ton of cash :)) But you will get there and is pretty darn fun.
Hi rob. Everyone here. Still enjoying the content. You could say that’s a prickly situation.
I did the same build. Same ıtems wıth same aspects. All my glyps are at level 21. But my barb cant jump lıke thıs. There a 10 sec cd. Somhow can ı solve thıs? What am ı doıng wrong ? I trıed dd, ds, and now thıs buıld. So ı am sick of barbarıan. Very weak thıs season for me after charge - hota at season 3. So ı need help badly ın here. Thank you is you reply me.
did you get all reduced brawling cooldown tempers on rings/neck/leap CD temper on boots? full 8% cdr on helm/ammy? multiple points in leap for reduced cd?
do you think that ring of the Ravenous would be a good addition to this build? or is it not worth losing the cooldown reduction on one of the ring slots?
Why I have everything the same and when I make the offensive jump on the boss it doesn't reduce me to 0 seconds like him? I have it every 6 seconds the jump even hitting the boss with the ring aspect on. I do it in controller
Cause robs build is incomplete.
Make sure to have min +3 to leap on boot and the right tempering everywhere (reduces brawling cooldown)
How is he able to just continuously leap like that? Best I can do is every 5-6 seconds. I have all the same cooldowns etc...
Real question is, for a build that's designed to do thorns damage, he is doing an awful lot with his attack abilities aswell, while also not taking a single point of damage without barrier. Meanwhile I'm getting oneshotted by a small snake while armor resistance capped, tons of damage reduction from burning targets and damage reduction debuff on enemies with my sorceress.
Hello Rob, love your content, very interested in putting together a thorn build myself, will the Harlequin Crest and/or grandfather fit into this build? much appreciated.
throns dont crit, so no grandpapa and the %thorns temper on the helm is too important to give up for harlequin. Harlequin is good if you dont have a helmet with cd and need more cd reduction to spam leap. Hope this helps
@@theevil5217 much appreciated for the explanation, i was lucky enough to get the grandpapa from tormented durial, and about to obtain my 4th spark to craft the harlequin crest, any build you would recommend which utilizes these 2 well? Thanks for your time
@@simonzee8699 you can probably play bash or the bugged bleed build.
how do i do uber lilith with frenzy quake thorns? i can't break the boils fast enough
How do you spam the leap? I have all the DR, my leap CD is now in 8.78 sec but it's not always triggering like in your vid...
holding the auto walk is the solution, standard bind is scroll wheel down but I would recommend binding it to keyboard key you can hold down
holding the auto walk is the solution, standard bind is scroll wheel down but I would recommend binding it to keyboard key you can hold down
@@JOBAVALONDONONLY420is it only possible on keyboard?
Which arsenal selection for the skills? Should I dual wield leap and frenzy? haven't seen any note?! thx
Any idea why I can't spam leap like this even with that aspect? It always has a cool down....ps5
Guys what is more important for thornsbarb the %dmg increase or the absolute thorns number for razorblade if you consider multiplikitative and addditive dmg?
is this fixed or sth. I cannot spam leap. It gets a 4 sec cooldown between them minimum
Make sure you force move or else you will have that cd bug
ROB, You should update your tierlist at d4builds so we can see your opinion now how you rank them Vs. Maxroll
Will do end of this week. Thx!
Maxroll thorn build sucks. Stucked at Pit 25 and NMD 80. Switch to this and I can go 90+ NMD and 35 Pit.
This build REQUIRES no resources so when you switch out the necklace for Seligs it becomes an insane IMMORTAL thorns build as well. I keep the other neck in the inventory and you can switch them out. Rob you would no doubt improve on mine but when you use no resources and spamming frenzy I don't even need to put additional resource building on the gear.
how can you leap multiple times per second? tried to copy this build and my leap is instant ready on bosses like in your vid but it won't trigger multiple times per second - it almost feels like i have an internal 1-1.5s CD altho leap is already ready (at least visually in my skill bar)
ok, got it now - you have to (force) run around and smash the leap button, then you'll get animation cancelling and you can spam leap multiple times!
You on console?
PC m&kb
@@simplegamer1563hey, what u mean with "force run around and smash leap button"??
@@CorsarioTV smashing leap while pressing "force move" button - no need to aim leap directly to the boss
is this still an optimal build in the current season?
i prefer original bash with any extra dps version like rupture or hota. Its not about a high number its about the consistency of dps. Hiting like maniac with bash constantly criting 50-100 millions is the top dps
I am playing thorns barb and got a Shaco with greater affix on resource generation. What class/build do you think would be best to use it on?
nice man what drop!
Whats a Shaco?!
geiles Build, verstehe nur den "Erdbeben Aspekt vom Aufstampfen nicht? od zählt der "im Erdbeben stehen is X % mehr dmg " auch wenn dieser aspekt nicht ausgelöst wird durch aufstampfen? nur bei mir funkt das ned mal annähernd so wie in den Video leider^^- auch die werte von paar Hundert K Life ?? keinen schimmer wie man auf solche werte kommt ??
How many thorns is considered good as a stat?
Help. I cannot perma leap on boss. The CD did not reset. Is this a bug with giant stride?
One problem is that I cautions stand leaping like that endlessly so I won’t be doing this
wut?
that made zero sense
He said he cautious he stand when he leaping that endlessly stand leaping cautious there for he won't be doing it
lol can’t stand not cautious ffs typo
@@merkinsniffs ahh isee thats valid
IN YOUR BUILD GUIDE OR THE BUILD GUIDE TO THIS BUILD HAS THE EARTHQUAKE ASPECT BUT THERES NO GROUND STOMP?
I have extra +2 paragon points left. Checked multiple times
same. thought it was just me. think I spent the last two points to give that earthquake glyph and extra str node for an extra 40% quake damage
How does he have all that leap CDR though? I'm doing this build and still have at minimum an 8 second window between leaps. I have the aspects, a cdr helm and amulet, and the relevant tempers
I'm too bloody casual to ever get this kind of enjoyment haha. I have a level 50 necro and I get wrecked in world tier 3 lol.
Look up a build or simply git gud
Giant strides is not reseting leap for me on boss hits, I have followed this built to the last detail and I will not work as shown here
So I should go with double swing instead right?? since the spamming mechanic isn’t working for console or controller🤔
seems that way, super annoying because i just got all the gear and respecced thorns. I can breeze through the game, but without the spamming mechanic bosses are pretty bad
Why the vampiric power aspects? Do they scale well? Seems like he has a ton of ways to apply vulnerable without them.
This is a Bug with Elixir of holy bolts. If you kill a boss add, it happens bosses got oneshottet by a bolt that comes from the add.
Does anyone know how to get your dust devils to do crit all the time ? Do dust devils crit dmg based of your crit chance and crit dmg?
Or is it it's own seperate crit chance proc?
Its clearly a bug of some aspect/glyph stacking when it should be 1 instance active only. I tried normal thorns barb and it deals 0 dps to ubers.
man why you talking out of your ass, "clearly a bug" ? "should be 1 instance"? the glyph literally reads " 10x increased damage to bosses for EACH active earthquake, there is a reason they added earthquake duration temper mods
@@TaherAbdelazim It is the Earthquake Aspect applying its 50% damage buff for each stack of Earthquake. There are two Earthquake damage buffs in this build: the one from Rumble: 10% for each active earthquake the second one is Earthquake Aspect: 50%(2H) if you are standing in an Earthquake.
@@rawrager its one 50% and multiple 10%s, they have different icons.
I’ve been playing thorns since pre season and attacks that apply dots don’t proc thorns at all. For example the boss bramble his main attack had a physical damage portion of it that do proc thorns but the poison portion of the attack will not proc thorns. So poison dmg ticks will not proc any thorns dmg.
Ye Bramble and that rogue boss are a pain in the ass
Why can't I spam Leap the way he does on bosses? I have the Strides aspect on...unless I need the max level of Strides? Its currently a 4.5 sec roll
You need really good Cdr Rolls on Helmet and Amulet, then tempering Brawling Cdr on Rings and then Leap Cdr on Boots. and i think you even have to hit some of the Cdr stats with masterworking
+3 to leap on boots. Robs guide is incomplete
@@Elray-20 or Brawling Skills +
Why is there that Groundstomp Aspect tho? what triggers it?
that leap CD is quite hard to obtain tbh feeling a little starved even with those tempers and the CD's i guess its full upgrades required
Rob am I missing something how does Earthquake aspect work without Ground Stomp on the bar?
The leap will create an earthquake
@@carlopaez3380 Yes thanks it works! I made the build yesterday it's insane. Works great with Seligs too for immortal style build too.
I love thorns barb but tomb lord boss is pain in the ass dude never attack you ever and these skeletons dying way to fast to proc thorns😮
does it make sense to replace the helmet with a harlequin? i just found one and dont know what to do- and i dont have a doombringer
Great build!!! Quick question though, why do you have the power leap upgrade selected when we aren't really using fury? I might be missing something, I'm fairly new!
OMG. This is awesome!
After huge investments in gold and tempering materials, it's great to take out mobs but my single dps, especially on bosses doesn't do that spike damage...like at all.
Is it working for anybody?
I can use the harlequin mask? Or the helmet aspect better??
Helmet aspect is a req.
One question, WHY is leap used? It has never been used in any build, wouldn't Charge be better?
it spawns earthquakes with bulkathos and combined with rumble you get huge damage muiltipliers
I'm just soo confused even with giant stride aspect on my amulet I cannot spam leaps on bosses....always a cool down what am I doing wrong plz help??
If you dont hit anything you get 4 seconds (in the skill modification). 1 enemy max 5s (unless in amulet 7.5s), and max 9s at once. I have on my leap CD on 7.34s with 24.5% CD reduction. If you want to jump infinitely you need around 60% if your base CD is less than 10 seconds. Cap is 75% CD..
@@Darcadiuswhat keys are you holding or spamming to get leap to be back to back?
@@rgzulim75 you force movement with left Mouse button (check control settings to setup), and then spam your leap button at the same time. Just make sure you jump on boss or multiple minions.
@@Darcadius with default settings you hold left mouse button and spam leap button?
@@rgzulim75 there are settings in controls to use 'force movement' Rob has it on Mouse scroll. I use Left Mouse button. Yes, you constantly force movement to break leap animation. This way you can spam it way more frequently.
So I have killed lord zir 30 times after they fixed the drop rates and still no razor plate am I just cursed or is it still messed up
I got mine in helltides
loot pool is rng this season a buddy got a 925 grandfather in hell tide and also one on a night mare dungeon run to...
Cursed me and a friend both got ours within 5 kills
It finnaly coughed up one from a helltide
I got one over around 20 kills. Drop rate seems way lower than it used to be. I used to be swimming in razorplates.
Until I find the perfect cooldown reduction rolls I am running a marshal glyph in paragon to get leap cd reduced after shouting.
why does your jump have no cooldown? how do you do that? unfortunately it is not explained in the build and video. Greetings
get all the reduced brawling skill cooldown tempers on jewlery, and leap CD reduc temper on boots. also make sure you have CDR on help and neck and multiple points on leap if you get low rolls for tempers.
How does he keep leaping? I tried this, have 8.8 leap cd, and toolbar shows no cooldown after hitting a boss, but leap has long (about a second) animation of a barb standing after slamming the ground. I managedd to skip it with a frenzy attack, but it leads to less stacks of earthquakes (I have up to 11, not 20 as here). What am I doing wrong?
UPD: seems that just clicking a force move button while holding the leap button helps to cancel the animation
Is some aspect
same if i do a frenzy inbetween, i can get leaps faster but no where near frog barb super mario jumper action like korea barb there lol
@@Unko-Q stacked with the amulet unique? And other attack speed sources?
Some mentioned moving a hair and I tried that and it seems to work, if you can move just a fraction after the leap instead of frenzy I can get it to spam like the video, but i was running into the same damn issue.
which is the trick for a infinite leap? i havent understand. tnx
How is he getting stacks higher then 8?
I have literally exactly the same gear as him, line for line and it never stacks above 8?
I tried it out you don't even need the thorn armor to do this. I think the earthquake is bugged. Because I play a different thorn build and it's not doing so well.
How are you jumping so fast? I have zero cooldown but the wind up takes to long I can’t only get a couple jumps out
Weis nicht bekomme ich nicht hin mit mein Sprung immer wieder liegt das daran das ich mit ps5 zocke controller oder was los🥺
Hey I'm level 57 when did you start leveling up the armor and adding the ⭐️perks to the gear should I wait till level 70 to re roll anything
@Rob2628 is shako never good for thorns barb?
i have every piece of this build and i cant get this to work. rip
I have loved the thorns barb since season 2… i am eyeballing this one, currently i am lvl 59 on tier 4 liquifying everything with frenzy thorns barb
how do you get it to leap so much mine is allways on cooldown
im asking myself the same i have it on cd rdy but cant use it for some time -.-
@@pa3oT_ Same my leap is instant reset but I smash it and it just doesnt come out. Trying to figure out why.
Perfect tempers to cd
Are you on controller?
@@Longspout15 no, Keyboard
build is wrong 2 paragon points missing?
How is he use the limetless jump
I got this build going but I reached my threshold at NMD 100, i wonder what im doing wrong.
Can anyone tell me how to have resistance with this build?
4,111,089,408 Among tons of other 500k+ hits at the same time. That is the only number that sticks out so its kinda weird. What would make a normal 500k hit suddenly hit 8000x bigger for a single hit? Sounds like a bug lol.
What is causing the instant leap resets? I have all the matching paragon / skill tree / gear stats and my leap is not resetting like this..?
Search for leap or stomp on the aspect occultist. I believe you need two in order to work. One activates earth the other resets leap. Or something like that
Leap over ult now? I am currently trying your original S4 thorns build (3 shouts, frenzy, chains, ult) and it is going well at lvl 60. I am curious if it would be worthwhile to dump Wrath ult for Leap.
Hallo zusammen, mein Barb ist auch Lvl100 und noch ausbaufähig. Die Dungeons sind okay,aber ich habe Probleme mit den Bossen. Obwohl ich ab und zu einen gewaltigen Hit vom Boss bekomme,bekommt er keinen Schaden. Woran kann das liegen? Versuche mich beim Bosskampf von allem treffen zu lassen, aber gefühlt macht fast nur Frenzy Schaden.
Why the Earthquak Aspect, when u do not use ground stomp?
its the second part of the aspect that you care about. "you do 20-50% more damage while standing in earthquake"
Read the second sentence on the aspect.
read the 2nd part of the aspect, it gives more dmg :)
Since noone has mentioned it yet, read the second part of the aspect, that's what most builds on barb care about nowadays.
@@izaruburs9389 "no one" hehe, I did an hour and a half before you
In terms of uber bosses killer, which build is better? Thorn-barb or Bash barb? I saw your video killing Echo of Lilth with Bash barb. It's quite fast and easy.
I'd assume bash barb is probably easier to gear for overall, thorn barb will most likely require more investment to really get going.
ive been using the bash build and the damage output/survivability will start to cap at tier 90-92 ND and/or level 65-67 at The Pits. im thinking thorns build prollys what i need to progress.
@@MisterGribblesbash barb here I run tier 100 ND and lvl 80 pit in less than 4 mins and I'm only 8/12 mw lvls atm, also no greater affixed so I think your knowledge on where we cap out is not accurate I still have a massive amount of upgrades to make
@@MisterGribbles t100 NMD is a joke for most bash barbs
Instead of doombringer, can I use godfather?
Can you add melted heart to this build?
how can he use leap instantly after hitting an enemy with it
Everyone saying you can’t do this on console aren’t paying close enough attention. He’s moving while spamming Leap on KBM too. It’s just more cumbersome to do this with a controller because moving is also aiming Leap.
Just Leap, move a smidge, let go of stick and leap in place, repeat. It’s really not that hard to do on console 😅 it’s just a mechanic to practice until they move skill aiming to the right stick