Is ‘1923’s Teonna a Rainwater? Theories, History, and Connections to ‘Yellowstone’
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- Опубликовано: 29 янв 2023
- So far on 1923, we’ve watched Teonna suffer, then escape, one the most horrific tragedies in North American history. But who is this resilient young woman? And is she also related to one of our other favorite Yellowstone characters? Played by wildly talented newcomer Aminah Nieves, Teonna is widely believed to be an ancestor of Yellowstone’s Thomas Rainwater (Gil Birmingham).
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I have to admit the scenes with Teonna are some of the hardest scenes to watch. I hold my breath and cringe with every scene she’s in. It is heartbreaking.
You are so right, it was extremely difficult to watch. I can only imagine how indigenous people feel!
Yes it was full on .
I have had to look away..and find myself really angry with the nuns and priests
So true, hard to watch but I watch and I think to myself, sad that it was probably worst than that they suffered.
The white people are horrible to our nation’s American Indians. We took everything from them. Stuff like this is still happening in ways 😢
I cried so much watching this...I am glad they brought the truth forward...
She totally is an ancestor. This series is unbelievable! I stream it on Sunday as soon as I see it is up!
The actress, I really respect her play. Her story is really torched
I love the character Teonna. I want to see more of her. I know I read how horrible the mistreatment of Native Americans in history and despicable everyone was towards them. However to see how horrific their "school" aka abuse was is so cringy and sickening. While using religion as an excuse.
I was crying she took alot. I'm happy she escaped cause they were all living in fear she was brave. I hope she is in the next series if they do 1944 series. I hope she has family again and safe.
Religion has been the justification of numerous atrocities through the ages. If someone's god is so loving and accepting, then why aren't the so called followers of that god? Just a way for one group to exert power and domination over another in the name of progress, i.e. control of wealth of land, resources and peoples. (The actress deserves an Emmy for her performance...just heartbreaking to watch.)
Best Actress in a Dramatic Role - Emee Awards
I wish everybody would see this series
feel that The Duttons will protect Teonna. When Spencer returns to the ranch we will hear about the deal made with the Native tribe to return the land to the Tribe. I feel Spencer will work together with the Indians to protect the land so the promise will be kept. I feel Spencer will reach out and build a strong army with the warriors from the tribe So there is land to return. Like John, Sr said in the flashback in season 2, when he told Kevin Costner don't give up one inch. He needs to keep it whole. I think that is So It can be returned to the tribe. Family knowledge each Dutton is sworn to keep. I think we have seen Spencer show respect to the native people everywhere he goes. Spencer will honor the promise to the native tribe that gifted the land to them and honor his sister Elsa Just my theory what do you think?
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Spencer never met his sister Elsa.
I think - my opinion- since John Dutton's g-son Tate is half Native Indian through his mother Monica, " Half" the ancestral land is already back with the Tribe, I also believe - which we'll have to wait until the storyline plays out- that Jamie's son can also lay claim to the Dutton land and that will be powerplay , I also believe Carter, the boy Rip & Beth took in, will be another Rip , as Rip is to John Dutton so will Carter be to Tate Dutton as I believe that will come into play with Jamie's son, boy that will be a good season to watch if it all happens!
As the plot thickens, I wonder if the Duttuns protect her and hide her on the ranch. Again showing the respect the Duttons had for the Crow nation I wonder if she stays at East Camp maybe more info is coming HMMMMMMMMMM
Good plot that could be a very good thing.
This is - by far - the best of the series! Teonna is definitely a Rainwater.... and this makes Kacee's son the 7th generation! That gives the ranch over to him because he's also a Rainwater! This would save the Yellowstone from the plans Jamie and his woman have planned.... it allows Beth to make it financially successful thru selling the beef and keeps the sworn agreement between James Dutton and Rainwater intact!
Good Catch!
I remember well, having been born in Minnesota ( St. Paul / 1943 ) the dismal situation with the states tribal lands.
Watching how Teonna suffered mentally and physically reveals the horrors perpetrated and condoned by "the church/missionaries"
and neurotic nuns of that hideous era.
This production, so expertly produced brings this historic albeit shameful era to the public, at last. Teaonna symbolizes this
era with sensitively and honor.
I hope she's a Rainwater or From Mo Brings Plenty...love all these people
She HAS to be connected in SOME way.... otherwise I'm not sure why she would be as much a part of the storyline. Touching on the history is one thing, but we are following her throughout her journey..... I feel like that has to connect to Yellowstone eventually!?
She identified herself as Rainwater in the series. No way that they would randomly have unrelated Rainwaters.
Tiana is such a good actress.
I remember my grandmother telling me about this. The abhorrent abuse inflicted on the Indian people is a dark stain on our "christian" nation!
The only people the Catholic church could do this to was the Indians because everyone else knew the atrocities they committed during the 1260 years of the Dark Ages!
I don’t know that many know, acknowledge, or accept that these atrocities were committed by the Roman Catholic Church/Empire over the centuries, but making it public knowledge today what the Church and the Government on both sides of the northern border did and allowed it to happen to the Indigenous people of this land is an education in itself. The US and Canada today must acknowledge & rectify this era. There are treaties written & signed from many years ago that were never honored or fulfilled, these must be honored now.
@@sharonrichards7656 This was very difficult to watch. All of these that took place in history should be taught on our history books.
@@sharonrichards7656 I don't understand how anyone wants to be a part of any church that to this day persecutes and sheds the blood of those who reject Papal Rome's teachings.
Most do so in ignorance because they were raised in it and don't know their Bible enough to question the doctrines they are given.
I thought I heard the Rainwater name mentioned in her storyline.
Man I love her character!!
Ok I just seen that yes there is going to be another twist in these series with 1944 , it could take everything to be what is seen today with main series , I hope all that are in these series realize there giving us history unlike we have ever seen on TV , god bless the ones who brought this to us , by the way my own great grandma on my moms side was a full blood Crow
Read the book, " Education of Little Tree", it's about the Cherokee of N.C. and the Western Tribe being forced into these schools.
One of my all-time favorites!
Shalom, where can I watch this?
Just binge watched the season and all I can say is "I chose violence" whenever her scenes came on.
It's mentioned multiple times throughout several episodes of the show that her name is Teonna Rainwater. I think the show made it pretty obvious that she's a rainwater.
Yep she's his grandma.
Teonna is the current chiefs great great grandma
Like the movie n like her character I'm glad she got revenge on those nuns I'm hoping she makes it her n her father n they find out the truth of what happened to her grandmother sad they killed hank
I was told the stories of abuse that happened to my Grandmother. It really happened, and much worse.
No doubt.
Did it already stated in the beginning that she was a rainwater
Yes lol
Being a Christian it’s sad how this happened makes u rethink things
I would think Teomna is connected to Mr. RAINWATER in Yellowstone. Otherwise, why is this character in 1923? I would think she is connected to her generation.
Uh, she tells her rescuer her last name is Rainwater.
This video is 2 weeks old. Before the last episode was released.
I love Teonna’s tenacity. I root for her. I went to a Catholic school and I shared my own beatings with a ruler and being slapped. I pray you make it Teonna!
Could she could be Mo's ancestor, or Monica's? (Monica is *deeply* aware of her history.) For that matter, was she the ancestor of John Dutton's wife?
It literally says she is a Rainwater in the last episode…..
This video was done before episode 6.
I am curious as to why the school bothered to contact law enforcement as the head demonic priest sent the three priests with instructions to “bring her back to me”. If the law catches up with her first, that won’t happen.
The Law is supporting the White Christian version of the tale. This is despite the sheriff noticing the neighboring girl in the next bunk missing. "What happened to her?" Priest replied, " oh, she died."
Sheriff," you sure have a lot graves out here for a school..."
Why will the not say Catholic. Christian is not necessarily Catholic.
Problay his grandmother
Theory what if Zane the ranch hand with the Asian wife takes in Teonna and hides her.
Thinking that Teona Rainwater might be related to someone who also has the surname rainwater is like thinking that all black people know each other or that everyone with the surname "Smith" are related to each other.
The scenes were hard to watch, knowing that the brutality & worse was perpetrated on children! Mostly stolen from their homes.
It made the murdering of the 2 Nuns who beat her & molested her, very gratifying to watch.
why not put up the clip no talkywalky just the clip of the vicious nun getting her appt with god for her crimes
Don't even wanna watch the show
I myself am Christian, I believe in God, I believe God loves me and does the best for me. But I also believe God never appreciates abuse
He gave the right to choose not the force to become someone else. The rules dont matter to him, pure heart and soul do
What the sister tries to kill the Indian in the girl, she must know that if she changes her religion to save her own life she would do it again, so instead of force and abuse show they love and advantage of Christianity if you want anyone to choose anything, show the good sides not the threats.
Second when the priest said he had compassion but no mercy, God has mercy for all of us who truly regret and ask for mercy so how does a mortal human who is no god decide to judge with no mercy mortal humans like him. They all are sons of God and can't have advantage over each other.
I know true religion and I know God is love not force not abuse not hate and threats
Know this not what the movie shows and not what Europeans did to other nations in the name of God.
The things they did in the name of God is much worse than the ones who don't believe or don't know God.
All they did was add more slaves for their own, not save souls and turn to Christianity.
No true religion forces or has abuse as control and leadership method. Don't be fooled by people who use the name of God for their own evil intensions and remember that the devil once was an angel and he knows how to do many good things so he will use his power but for he wanted to be equal to God he was never forgiven (although I believe if he truly prayed and wanted he would have been forgiven) his pride led him on to keep doing things against God not to see his mistake.
But no abuse in this world will make someone love the abuse maker or the reason for abuse.
It would make sense if Teonna escapes down south and hides herself amongst Mexicans. Chief Rainwater said he grew up thinking he was Mexican
Yes she is
I thinks he's a ancestor of Claudia