Would I Ever Renounce My US Citizenship?
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Illegalise?
In your vids you should keep us updated on how many people have signed the petition🙂
Love your vids🎃
The Petition says UK residents only etc. but when it asks you where you live you can select ANY country 😆
the link says this atm
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Hello and welcome to a man in his bedroom not hiding from the IRS
I accidentally read that as “not hiding from ISIS”. Whoops
The lighting and soft background in this video is really great!
The hard work is paying off!
I had an American friend when I was living in Switzerland who once he obtained his Swiss citizenship renounced his American citizenship for exactly this reason. I am Canadian and I recall when the US was clamping down on this I was called into my bank and forced to sign a document that I wasn’t American. Just ludicrous, but I had the feeling at the time the US government was in serious financial trouble and desperate for the tiny amount of extra money they could scrounge from ex-pat Americans with the delusion that these people are ridiculously rich and only living outside of the US to avoid paying tax.
crazy how I only heard about all of this from you and not ANYONE else when I am an American Studying abroad in the UK for my Bachelor. Much to think about.
I feel like the more I know about the US's legal system, the less I want to settle here. Initially I didn't want to stay in the US but that just makes me want to leave even more.
The rolling right 😭 I got one of those tickets a few years ago 😔
Thought you might find this interesting
In Finland, speeding fines are linked to salary. The Finns run a “day fine” system that is calculated on the basis of an offender’s daily disposable income - generally their daily salary divided by two.
The more a driver is over the speed limit, the greater the number of day fines they will receive.
This has led to headline-grabbing fines when wealthy drivers have been caught driving very fast.
In 2002, Anssi Vanjoki, a former Nokia director, was ordered to pay a fine of 116,000 euros ($103,600) after being caught driving 75km/h in a 50km/h zone on his motorbike.
And in 2015, Finnish businessman Reima Kuisla was fined 54,000 euro ($62,000) for driving 22km/h over the 50km/h speed limit.
I heard about from another girl before and that's actually a great law by the Finnish people
To little people like me those numbers are insane! But to those people it's just pocket money
@@Mojohjohjoh Thats the point of the system. Fines are supposed to hurt to incentivise to not redo whatever it was for. A fixed fine could be unreasonable burden for someone with low incomes, while someone with large income might not care at all. But when the fine is related to the incomes, it's supposed to hurt equally everyone who gets them, to give the lesson.
There is a Swedish equivalence of that system, that work the same way.
Sounds great! I want that here in the Netherlands, not just for traffic tickets but for all fines. It just doesn't seem right that the same offence can cause one person to get into a spiral of debt and another person wouldn't even notice if the amount disappeared from their bank account.
As an Eritrean lady, I would be willing to participate in this experiment
How are you? I heard that part of the world is having a hard time. Solidarity and wishes you are well. That sounds insincere but I mean it.
I tried to sign it. But they said that they have to check that the petition meets petition standards, & didn't let me sign..
The US sounds like Hotel California: you can check out, but you can never leave.. lol
Same even though 5 people have signed it and everyone else can’t
We have to wait abit
Yep. Me too.
Anyone know if we can sign the petition if we do not live in the UK?
@@wandirs you can’t sign the petition yet anyway it’s still being reviewed
Careful, Evan, it almost sounded like you wanted to renounce your citizenship to avoid paying taxes! You don't want to know what the US will do to you if they think _that!_
Exactly. This video is risky.
@Martina you get barred from returning to the country
@@jarodh-m6099 I think he's been pretty carefully legally. He's not been explicit and equivocal.. imho he's just been rhetorical
@@kaitlinberanek4539 if I were an american that would be the only thing stoping me from renounceing the possibility that I coulden´t visit my family anymore
If he’s compliant (which seems he may be) with the IRS then it’s not a problem. He can talk as much as he likes.
I too am a US citizen who lives abroad and has no desire, intention or reason to return to live in the US and I despise the IRS.
We know the pitfalls of renunciation which aren’t pitfalls to many of us.
Evan: Tickets should be rearrenged so that they actually disincentivize all people
Finland: Hold my beer
There are a couple of different countries doing it. I think Switzerland and Iceland are doing the same
The UK are also doing it.
@@ward.v2594 I live in Iceland. Not aware of this and haven’t been able to find a relevant law. If you have a link to the law please share! This would make sense but there is loads here that makes no [common] sense.
I thought speeding tickets are just incredibly expensive in Switzerland. Do they actually depend on your money?
@@cheshirecat5416 One Swedish person in Switzerland received about a million dollar fine for going 290 km/h.
My brother-in-law actually renounced his US citizenship recently and used the Covid stimulus check he received to that effect. All in all a was bit cheaper than normal and he's very happy with it.
That's hilarious, make the government pay for it! !
This is amazing 😂
Bye
@@cianelt9963 With taxpayers money. Which most citizens are very happy with.😊
Im gonna use the stimulus to pay for the accountants doing my streamlined procedure for taxes i didnt know i had to file!!!
I'm considering renouncing my American citizenship. No one told me America would be like an evil ex-boyfriend with my bank account details.
It's weird how they always keep the american cult-ish stuff from the movies. This wasn't in high school musical
Well, yeah. Fiction is meant to be either (a) an escape from the sad reality or (b) propaganda. Neither of those include talking about the actual terrible things. Only documentaries dare to do that.
@@IceMetalPunk nah there's no way fiction falls into just those two categories unless my definition of propaganda is a much smaller scale than the actual meaning
@@paulasalazar2093 I mean... I can't think of any other reason for fiction. It's either for entertainment (an escape) or to promote one point of view (propaganda). If you can think of a third reason for fiction, let me know!
@@IceMetalPunk i don't agree with that statement. You can "talk" about social/political/personal/societal/etc. problems in fiction. It doesn't need a documentary for that.
@@ZebraJess92 Well, sure! I didn't say you can't do that. But when it's written about in fiction, it's still part of escapism. For instance, one of my favorite books is Prey by Michael Crichton. In it, he makes some very good points about humanity, hubris, and technological caution, among others. But that doesn't negate the fact that it's still a story about something that has never happened to anyone, and thus by reading it I'm escaping into the story world and leaving my world behind for a bit.
“Hello everybody welcome back to a man with a snorlax pillow”.
i was born in poland, to an american dad. i have an american citizenship, we moved to the u.s. 7 years ago, now im trying to get back to the eu. if it means i must get rid of my u.s. citizenship, so be it. seriously, theres nothing here for me
Hope you will make it home safely... and soon!
Bye
You can get polish citizenship by decent
welcome back lava lamp, we missed you
Kevin says thank you
American citizenship - the gift that keeps on taking
The NHS - the greatest gift any country ever gave to its self
That's the best thing about uk
@@luce3619 yet its still terrible compared to other European health systems
@@Muzzathemint yeah
@@Muzzathemint but it's better than the US and we should be grateful for that at least
@@pikachuisshook2795 you know I'm genuinely scared that the US being so terrible is making us all in other, somewhat better off countries, think "at least we're not doing as bad as the US" and thus give up on improving ourselves (on all aspects, not only healthcare)
I literally looked in the description for the petition
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/554690/sponsors/new?token=PHKjkK88WnivLe2WEOEP
@@evan thank you
@@evan it's currently being checked as 5 people have already supported it. You will need to update when it goes live again (might take a few days).
it says please try again in a few days!
Yeah, I’m up to signing it in a few days
After your video my boyfriend gave me an ultimatum: American Citizenship or Marriage. So now I have to renounce :D
I'm not really surprised after your video about your last experience in the US :)
Why dont they renounce their citizenship? Or why does anyone have to renounce their citizenship?
@@SofiaBerruxSubs because they are living outside the US. both for many years. Also she probably already fulfills any requirements to acquire the German citizenship. acquiring us citizenship is a pita. (he mentions this in this video iirc)
Also look at his most watched video where he explains taxation of us citizens and their significant others. That's enough reason in my opinion.
Don't come back
@@quanbrooklynkid7776 You mean I shouldn't go "back" to a country that has basically become a meritocracy, has no universal health care, where education costs tens of thousands of dollars (mine is..*free*) and there is no safety net when you lose a job?
Gladly. :)
Welcome back to a Yankee who isn't sure if he's British enough
If he can make and serve a cup of tea correctly using loose leaf tea, knowing the CORRECT way round to add the milk and tea to the cup and pour from a china tea pot then he passes as British enough
@@madabbafan agreed
LOL!!
@@madabbafan hmm I am not convinced I need to know his stance on biscuits first. If he is a custard cream dunker, then he clearly has more to learn.
@@lucie4185 if he is a dunker at all there will be an issue.
On the theme that some fines effect the poor than the rich; Jeremy Clarkson once pointed out that it was cheaper to park a car on double yellow lines in Oxford city centre than it was to pay for all day parking in the car park...
But parking in Oxford cost the same for everyone, too much
Only a rich idiot would leave a car in Oxford centre to get bashed by the busses and scratched by cyclists and the rogue denizens of Blackbird Leys.
I do think that it's worth noting that the person who made the comment about immigrating to the US does a point about how stupidly hard it is for non-Americans to move here. It feels like the US gov doesn't want people to leave, but also doesn't want people to come here either.
Kinda like a prison?
In addition to immigrating to the US being difficult it’s incredibly expensive.
America: where you're too free to leave
There is a new way the UK offers out driving related offences. It is based on the severity of the offence and a percentage of your monthly wage. 50%, 100% or 150%. It's been in force a couple of years.
BTW, his petition was REJECTED because, and I quote 'It’s not clear what the petition is asking the UK Government or Parliament to do.' On a petition called 'Illegalise financial institutions' discrimination against US Born UK Residents: Investigate the impact of the US acts of FATCA and FBAR on US-born UK residents'. That was DENIED, my god.
I stumbled on your videos after making similar ones on TikTok! Someone told me to check your stuff out. I am a US citizen in the Netherlands. I'm so glad you brought up the "America centrism" of people saying "but what if you want to live in the US again some day?!" when you talk about renouncing. Sooo many American "expats" (I don't really use this word) seem to be temporary workers in their country, that I find this sentiment all the time. I always get a little exhausted having to explain why I would not want to move back to "the greatest country on earth". It's just tiring to explain that I do not see it that way and have not for a while. I'm thinking of buying a house in NL soon and really getting myself rooted here, but all this tax stuff makes me a little afraid to do that until I am no longer a US citizen. Great videos!
Renounces US Citizenship *totally for political not tax reasons* 😂
If you renounced your US citizenship (once you'd acquired UK citizenship) the UK _technically_ can't deport you because that'd render you stateless which is a breach of international law.
Signed the petition, I agree that I never want to go back. My dad got really annoyed when I told him the US is my "7th choice". I chose that number at random, but after I thought about it it turns out the US is #11. . .
What were the top 10?
TikTok is not banned in the US. It was going to be, but a judge ordered an injunction on that which gave TikTok's parent company enough time to sell their US rights to US-based Oracle, and with a US company in charge of the US portion of the app's dealings, the ban never went into effect.
In Denmark speeding tickets (and some other ticket types) are income dependent - so people with higher income are fined a higher amount.
To be honest when I was 5 I wanted to migrate to America, now it’s like nah I’ll stick with 🇬🇧
Are you 9?
Good choice.
UK sucks
Dude, your profile picture is literally illegal in Germany. Also wtf. Just.. wow
Boris was born in the USA. He used to love it and banged on about it all the time... until they chased him for tax. Then he dropped it like a bad habit.
Mentions the US tax system *Nomad Capitalist has entered the chat*
Helicopter is probably the US government checking up on you 😂
I feel like I’ve passed a terminal genetic disease to my daughter. 😞 US citizenship is such a curse.
In Switzerland the ticket prices for traffic violations are calculated according to the income of the person. Pretty good concept in my opinion!
Why was the petition rejected !?~~~ sad 😔 ~~~~
Evan please let everyone know that you have to be a UK citizen or resident to sign. Too many non-eligible signs and the petition goes to the trash bin...
Also just so you know it's not working yet they're checking it.
You say ‘even the Prime Minister couldn’t escape’ but tbf Boris Johnson couldn’t escape from a locked room if you gave him the key and pointed a sign saying ‘open here’ at the lock.
Oh brilliant. We have a fuming Leftie with us....
He led us to escape the Remain Parliament that had been destroying our democracy for 3 years, he beat Corbyn by a landslide so we escaped Marxism and he got us to escape from the EU as we decided in 2016.
Seems rather good at 'escaping' to me.
@@1chish Ah, we can agree to disagree I'm sure, but I must say thank you, I've never been called a 'fuming Leftie' before and it's just about made my night 😂
@@littleinfinities Always happy to agree to disagree Sophie.
And always happy to correct fuming Lefties .. 😉🤣
Never saw the attraction of the US. So glad I am not born with a noose known as US citizenship around my neck. Glad I was born else where and won't be hit with a surprise tax
Imagine if Evan renounces his citizenship and then marries an American
That doesn't make you a citizen. But it would be funny, yes.
@@harisadu8998 I was just saying cos then he’d have to start paying them tax again lol
@@shalomjackie192 Marrying, alone won't cause you to enter the tax net. However, the spouse, if American would still be under a global tax net of course.
A few years ago, the Canadian government took the drastic step of expelling the head of the Eritrean consulate in Toronto because he’d been involved in levying the 2% expat tax on Eritreans living in Canada.
It seems Canada doesn’t like foreign governments shaking down Canadian residents. That is, unless the foreign government is the United States.
A year late but I agree with you. There is also talk in Canada to make taxes citizenship based as well. I hope they don't do this as a Canadian living in the US.
The USA is currently a dystopian hellscape. Our major party choices for the upcoming presidential election are both abysmal, our government is rotten to the core, and we are the worst country on earth when it comes to the pandemic response. I'm an American living in the USA, so I am speaking from firsthand experience.
So am I. At this point we need foreign intervention to fix the scenario. I bet it will happen eventually. I just hope it happens before shit hits the fan.
@@ricochet4674 Hang in there. If things hit rock bottom, we can only go up from there.
What government isn’t corrupt? Aren’t your opinions on presidents completely subjective? Aren’t the number of deaths we have in relation with our population pretty low even compared to other countries looking at the numbers? It’s honestly not worse than many other countries or as bad as you’re making it out to seem.
Evan: *posts video
My Brain: it’s Sunday, I guess!
Same, I was looking at my home page and was confused why there was a new video because I forgot about community videos
Big same
“Hey Guys and welcome back to an American German speaking Londoner”
The petition was rejected for being unclear :(
I live in Japan and deal with this double tax issue. It is totally ridiculous. I have French and American citizenship. My wife is Japanese, I totally wasn't thinking about the fact our kid would also have to deal with this double tax issue. I was only thinking of the upside of having multiple citizenships lol.
I personally won't renounce because I do think about moving back one day. But the double tax situation is always nagging me.
same
@@TravelingwithKristin the fact ur channel with 100k subscribers is just so casually replying like damn 🥲
Attends le maximum (18 ans) avant declarer la naissance de ton enfant à l'ambassade US. Si tu penses que ça vaut le coup pour l'enfant alors tu le déclare. (consular report of birth abroad)
Hey ya'll welcome back to back to a man who says he posts on a sunday and then posts on a Thursday
Well Sunday AND Thursday :)
Yeh I know I love your videos
I missed it because I missed the update.
There are an estimated 6 million Americans living outside the US!
After college I plan on moving to the London, but I wish someone would fix our tax laws/education system/healthcare/debt/wages. While I think America is a great country certain things we just missed the mark on.
Ah America, the land of the free.
How amazingly ironic it is that you literally cannot escape the US.
About the car ticket thing, a good thing I saw that sums it up it "punishable by fine means legal for the rich"
Yeah. I know someone who has gotten 4 speeding tickets this year. Each at least 30 over and each also reduced to a parking ticket with no points because they paid a lawyer to go to court for them.
I feel that fines should be a percentage of the offenders income not a set figure.
@@amiscellaneoushuman3516 I feel that wouldn't be fair either. The example Evan gives focuses on a very wealthy person. But in general there are wage differences between a construction worker, a teacher, and an engineer. Would you really be okay with giving a higher fine to the engineer, for breaking the same law?
@@AM-xt4jj Perhaps I wasn't clear enough, what I mean is that each offence should have a set percentage of income which is taken, rather than a set amount of money. For example, if the fine is 1% of annual income then someone earning £1,000,000 will pay £10,000 while someone earning £10,000 will pay £100 however they will both have paid the same amount of their income. Therefore, the fine will impact everyone who has to pay it equally rather than disproportionately affecting the poor.
*numbers given are purely for illustrative purposes and are not intended to be realistic
@@amiscellaneoushuman3516 I understood what you meant. But I still disagree. Someone who makes 60000 a year would pay double compared to someone who earns 30000. But they commit the same act. I agree that as an incentive for the rich a fine does not work, but creating such a structure doesn't seem fair to me. Instead I would create a system where multiple fines stack up and then they might get their license taken or must do social hours. I think such measures would be a better incentive for rich people.
Was Gonna sign your petition, put they are checking it.
Something totally unrelated is it still rendition if you are taken back to your own country? 😎 (those helicopters make perfect sense now lol )
Was the Chinese company Hauwei? They have been advertising no stop on Canadian RUclips.
👀
Got a few ads here in the Czech Republic too
Ummm the government rejected the petition...
Omg I wanna sign that petition 😂✨
Thanks! It's here petition.parliament.uk/petitions/554690/sponsors/new?token=PHKjkK88WnivLe2WEOEP
Rejected.
and Britain wasn’t even a foreign country at the time
Hey, at least he acknowledged that it was about not paying taxes rather than the "representation" propaganda.
@@laurencefraser ah it wasn’t a criticism, merely an addition
TikTok did not in fact end up banned in the US, it's still legal...
Yeah, because its American portion was sold to Oracle.
in Finland if u get a speeding ticket u get taxed depending on your income. if you are rich u pay more
I'm in the process of leaving a high-demand christian religion in the US and it's striking how many similarities there are between this process and leaving the US. For example, you can't just leave. If you stop attending, they will track you down and harass you "kindly" with guilt trips and shame until you return, even if you move. Most folks who want to leave have to get a lawyer to sign send a letter telling the church to leave them alone. I used to dream of leaving the country (for other reasons, related to our country going up in flames) but this video makes it feel so daunting!
Look into it anyways. There are plenty of places that will welcome you as a Student (for example) in the EU. Quite often you pay very little or nothing for the actual tuition. Is it very different from College or Uni in the US? Yes... but that isn't nessecarily a bad thing.
Sending you hugs and strength!
Stay safe!
Wishing you the best for your future plans.
@@sisuguillam5109 that is so kind, thank you for your reply! I'll keep this in mind when things get tough
@@janicew9 🥰 you are welcome!
Which church?!?
"Hello everybody and welcome back to a man who counts helicopters passing by on a daily basis"
With so much misinformation going on in American politics right now something tells me that the renunciation fee is about to skyrocket to unprecedented numbers from $ 2300.........to What in tarnation!!
I was so shocked about the taxation situation for Americans abroad that you raised in your previous video. Jaw to the floor! I already realised America is pretty shitty to its citizens about many things but this stealth tax is completely taking the piss! I talked to an American work colleague yesterday and he was pleased to have the chance to have a rant and see that someone actually knew about it.
Unfortunately, but understandably, it's not just the getting away from the US that's difficult, but also being allowed in other countries. I don't have a college education and will never be able to afford one, which means that it will be nearly impossible to meet ANY other country's requirements for nearly any visas. I get why it's made so difficult in terms of not wanting foreigners to flood in and take advantage of the system, but I feel so trapped in the US. Like I'm banging on a window asking for someone to let me out, and all the neighbors are just saying, "we don't care that it's your captor's fault, you aren't good enough to come live in a place where we treat people like people ". I just feel so hopeless and frustrated.
Welcome to the EU... where a lot of Unis are free - even for US citzens. Or really cheap. A lot of the courses are in english, too. Good luck!
@@sisuguillam5109 tuition is cheap or free- cost of living is not, and student visas severely limit the amount of hours you can work. Believe me, I have looked into this.
@@jayc9345 Dang... maybe the eastern parts of the EU?
I hope you will find a way to reach your goals!
@memes memes oh, so in other words, you're a Canadian who aspires, for some unimaginable reason, to be American.
@memes memes do you understand how societies function? How insurances function?
You person disregard for the wellbeing of others should not matter in a civilised society - and luckily in Canada (and in my own home country to a wide extent) it doesn't.
Welcome back to a person who's seen more government forms than people this year.
I tried to sign your petition but got this instead
“Why was this petition rejected?
It’s not clear what the petition is asking the UK Government or Parliament to do.
Petitions need to call on the Government or Parliament to take a specific action.
We're not sure exactly what you'd like the Government or Parliament to make illegal.
You could start a new petition explaining clearly what you would like the Government or Parliament to do.”
😂🤦♀️ Sorry!
Hey Evan, Loved the video, as a dual US citizen living in the UK I understand your frustration. Your petition was rejected on UK Gov and I would definitely support it moving forward if you submitted another one. We could potentially work together on this. Hope you are well!
I wish Ancestry DNA could count towards applying for British citizenship. I'm almost 100% British LOL
Evan, if you ever became a citizen of the UK then I would be proud of you
He’s literally already applied
@@adamkorhan8465 I know but he hasn't become one yet which is to what I was referring
On the renouncing US citizenship thing, I have 2 reasons for keeping mine.
1) I can't afford to give it up
2) My current partner wants to be an academic and if he were to get an amazing research position in the US I would want him to have an alternate way of living there legally so he wouldn't necessarily get fucked over by needing a work visa
@evan I am curious to know now that you are an official UK citizen and the renounce fee in the US dropped to ~$400 AND the FATCA / FBAR Tax problems are still a thing, if you have given further thought about possibly renouncing US citizenship?
I have only been living in the UK for 4 months now, and don't see myself ever returning to the US to live if I can help it. I would gladly give up my US citizenship to become a Brit.
I keep considering it. I recently visited London for 4 days and it was such a breath of fresh air compared to the hellhole of a country I live in now (USA).
I'd like to have US Citizenship if you can hook me up with a US Spouse? (Cute preferably?) I'll be be able to Cast a Ballot in Both Countries
I'm gonna scare my future children with bedtime stories about the greedy tax gremlin
oh yea that reminds me, Boris can technically stand in US for Presidential election... Boris for PRES!!
Annoyingly, they have delayed anyone signing the petition because it has 5 votes (?). Given the internet has the attention span of a half-asleep goldfish, you’ll need to remind us in your next video.
How much are we talking about in a hypothetical situation like ifsay you got a job here at £30 ,000 per year which if from what I know of us insurance premiums( not much)butnhs makes UK a saving of600dollars a month and I am given to understand the other insurances are dearer per month as well so .in the way of a question is it an over estimate to say you with not having to pay health insurance in us and if car and house insurance premiums are less as well could you be looking at a saving of£7000per year which would make your £30000 per year worth £ 37000 you being knowledgeable on the numbers game does this figure in your considerations or Is it the twin taxation thing as a principle
After watching this, I feel less shite about currently being unemployed. Now when I'm asked, it's not "I'm unemployed because I can't find a job" it's "I'm unemployed cause I don't wanna pay the US Government"
Currently living in China. I pay Chinese tax and US tax. Fun. I am an American citizen who can't decided where to go next. I don't really want to go back to the USA. Even if I tried to go back, I can't apply for jobs in the US! America companies make me fill out job forms online but most jobs have electronic applications that don't account for overseas addresses/job info.
"5 people have already supported Evan Edinger’s petition."
mmm yes it is going rather splendid indeed
Looks like you need to word the petition again been rejected
Where's the petition boyo?
FRICK
@@evan :D
So on the way to having a culture the USA stopped at cult and forgot that there were 3 more letters to it?
About the driving fines: That's why in Finland the value of the fine depends on your income, I believe!
In the uk if you get fined it’s now based on a percentage of your income rather than a set amount so that rich people can’t just get away with a small fine they’ll actually have to pay a decent amount and I think that’s so much better
Travelling to the US - e.g. to visit your parents - still means going through immigration if you're not a US citizen. I wouldn't suggest giving up your citizenship unless you're prepared to commit to never going back even for a visit.
As a Brit, I can say that US immigration is a nightmare, even just when I want to go there on holiday.
I've been multiple times.. but he's white and living in a western country.. it's kinda annoying but not that horrible.
Evan your back on Thursdays? Well i wouldn't pay taxes to the US if im living outside the country because I barely pay them now. Lol But If I lived abroad and I didn't make money in the US so they wouldn't get my money!
I distinctly remember the date and time I realized I could live outside of the US. And then I left.
Getting final confirmation of UK citizenship is a good time to start the 'revoking US citizenship' shennanigans.
i would love to retire to several countries other than the US. My issue is, i cannot renounce, simply because my regular income is from S.S. disability...a nice amount, actually. That would go away with renouncing, i am reasonably sure. We have other revenue, insofar as land to be sold, Pension, etc. i really, REALLY want out of this madhouse, just am not certain about the feasibility, even without renouncing.
now i'm depressed.
I've a timeline of Eng->US->Canada->US and then married a Canadian in the US where we both got green cards. So taxes are fun. But just a note to keep an eye out for ongoing changes in pensions treaties and whether they ever change if you are/were a PR rather than a Citizen.
You talked about the tax poor people have to pay for road fines but its even worse in the prison system, poor people can't afford to pay the bail so are left to rot in prison until the trail that can take years. The USA is the only country that makes people pay. In the uk if there not dangerous or a flight risk they all just get let out, no money needed.
Great video Evan 👍👌
Btw having trouble finding the link to the Gov UK petition you mentioned in the video
SORRY! It's there now
@@evanbrilliant thanks Evan. Love your work as always
I’m a Californian. We don’t associate ourselves with the rest of the country.
When Evan was talking about speeding fines I just thought it would interest people to know that in the UK speeding fines are based off of a persons salary/income so that people can not just speed without caring because there rich, this is why you get the headlines about people like ant mcpartlin being fined 86k
Ironically, at no point in American history were taxes lower than during the British colonial era.
when he said pennsylvania left i thought of a michigan left **shudders**
evan I'm SCREAMING. how do I leave the us permanently I need to leave or else I will LITERALLY go i n s a n e if you have any extra resources pls share bc I need to leave