Secure your privacy with Surfshark! Follow the link for an extra 4 months free at surfshark.com/felix What do you think the piece of mystery Hardware is? Do you think it's a piece of the Block 2 booster or perhaps a Pathfinder tank?
Felix I am sorry but the information on your T shirt is not entirely correct. Raptor 3 is not meant for interplanetary travel, at least not for fleets of ships. It's too expensive, and is seen as an intermediate solution. The successor, LEET (1337) is going to supply the thrust and Isp needed for a Mars round trip, at 1/5th the price of Raptor 3 ($200,000).
I won't subscribe just because of this mention every video. It's also no true that I need to be 'subscribed to keep up to date', even without a sub the videos always end up being recommended. 🤷♂
@@beeman-dev If i remember right getting a click from recommended is BETTER for channel than getting it from a sub. But thats surface level and trust me noone knows how this shit works XD
I love how when I see NASA build rockets they are like "we need to build special vehicles to move parts" and SpaceX is just like "Strap that thing on the back of a F450 and get it over there".
NASA did that when there was no other way to move the parts. And NASA tended to build things that worked exactly as intended the very first time. They did not have to blown up 20 of them to figure out what to build.
@@christopherpardell4418 No, NASA didn't "build things that worked exactly as intended the very first time" , SaturnV have test flight too. Why would you think they didn't?
@ I watched them. Their TEST flights flew perfect. Just like SpaceX’s Crew Dragon did, because for a crew capsule NASA insisted they engineer and test it THEIR way, instead of the clumsy ‘guessing at it’ method spaceX has taken for Starship. Seriously. NASA built a rapidly reusable launch pad in 1963 capable of handling a dramatically more powerful rocket. SpaceX has spent FOUR YEARS building a single use launch pad that requires millions in repair every time it’s used. Why? Because Musk decided he didn’t NEED to have Water deluge and a flame diverter, like Every OTHER large launch provider had figured out before he was born. Over the past 4 years that Musk has stubbornly tried to prove his BAD idea for a launch pad could be somehow made to work, SpaceX COULD have been using Falcon 9’s to test smaller versions of Starship to discover what does and what doesn’t work. y’know, BEFORE building an entire launch facility and 24 rockets, NONE of which turn out to be Big enough, or strong enough to lift more than a single banana to LEO. Much less land on the moon. At his present rate of burning thru cash Starship will be 8 years late and cost 7 to 8 billion ( 5- 6 billion over budget ) and to get ONE rocket to the moon- it will require 20 starship launches. Artemis went WAY past the moon with a fully functional capsule on its FIRST attempt. Fact it. Musk is NOT a genius. He is not even bright enough to know that vaccines save lives, or to check with a lawyer before making a joke offer on twitter that t turned out he cold be legally force to honor. Maybe that’s why a bunch of SpaceX engineers signed a letter to the board asking Musk be removed as CEO. Like he was removed as CEO of PayPal only 6 months in.
Somebody let the troll in. Talking about you SpaceX being late and over budget, when they are ahead of Boeing, ULA, Russia, China, India, Arianespace. But somehow the SpaceX approach is wrong. Does Elon try innovative/unconventional ideas that occasionally don't work, yes. But being traditional has left the rest of the industry far behind.
The pause caught me off guard 😂... When he started talking about protection I was laughing then the pause made me laugh Because I was thinking about the same thing 😂
It's a total redesign of the tank layout, to get more fuel and oxidizer in to the Raptors, while also changing the 'Center of pressure vs center of mass' of the ship for more stable re-entry, and allowing the LOx to keep the CH4 cold for longer. It's a tank-inside-a-tank design, so both tanks are full height and both feed the raptors from the tank bottom. The Down-comer (down pipe?) running through the middle of the lower tank becomes the inner tank. It'll likely move mass from the shared bulkhead in the middle of the Block 1 design, in to the wall of the inner tank, but that tanks wall can also be a lot thinner as the pressure difference between the tanks will be far less then that to the outside. It'll also reduce the need for braces to support the mass of the top tank above the bottom one during fuel loading, and shorten the run from the QD Panel to the inner tank compared to a pipe to the upper tank. Plus the sharing of both top and bottom domes is possible, reducing mass once more.
@@akirathedog777 How do you conflate an opinion on the design elements, with how someone votes? Perhaps look through other posts and see how much I despise the orange clown and his unhinged jester before you decide to be abusive to people?
But.. didn't they have issues of CH4 getting frozen from O2 or was it from liquid He ? The more shared surface between those tanks are the worse, at least in that design.
Don't know why, this vid gave me pure joy!!! Thank you Felix and team! Send my best wishes to your wife and family, supporting you on this. You're pure class in presentation! 😅
Thanks for the update on the Rocket Lab Neutron program. I have great hopes that RL will become the next "SpaceX' and carve out their own niche in the launch market. If Neutron is successful it bodes well for their future.
Another problem dealing with Italian industrial companies is what I called the “effing Luigi“ problem. Example (and I’ll only give you one, but I’ve got more!) So I bought 36 three phase industrial chemical pumps, all “identical.” Half were wired one way, have a different way. 1/3 use gray wires, 1/3 use pink wires, 1/3 use white wires. One day, Mario is working, he did things a certain way. Then on a different day effing Luigi was working and he did things differently. Half my pumps sucked, the other half blew! I 💩 you not. …And don’t say I’m anti-Italian, my family is from NE Naples. I love the Italian people, I love Italian food, I love Italian culture… But their craftsman attitude goes completely against manufacturing repeatability. I’m sure anyone who’s owned an Italian car has the same experience.
There's something everybody keeps forgetting when we talked about extra tanks that are appearing on the site that might be a little larger than we should need. We are going to have to refuel in space very soon. These could be part of the internal refueling system of one of the starships.
Thank you so much for covering other companies in the industry, especially Rocket Lab! While people continue to act like Blue Origin is somehow a competitor to SpaceX, Rocket Lab is the real deal, and their current technology and future ambitions are already rendering Blue Origin's non-existent advancements obsolete before they even reach the launch pad. At the same time Rocket Lab has found niches in the industry which allow them to exist alongside SpaceX rather than be decimated as a direct competitor. Rocket Lab is currently near the top of my list of companies that I really want to work for.
I am pretty sure Sir Peter Beck told on recent interview with few retail investors who follow the stock here on RUclips, that their full focus is on Neutron for re-usability, so Electron being re-used is probably not going to happen (anytime soon) at least for now.
Yup; don’t think they are doing any real further work on Electron reusability at all. That may be a mistake; but that’s what’s (not) happening. - Dave Huntsman
@@octopify As it should be. The Electron is just keeping them in the game and giving them some revenue flow. The Neutron (and the possible successor, the Quark! ;-) -those are the future of RocketLab. No Neutron, no future.
The two towers are almost the same height but the lauch pad is lower on tower B right ? that would compensate the difference in size of booster block 1 and 2
That was exactly what I was thinking, Other than having a crane lift each starship into place, there’s no way they would build a block 2 unless they had the means to mount them. I think it’s a safe, bet that only tower to in the future will be able to launch them until modifications are made to tower one.
14:16 this makes it sound like the 2nd stage returns to the first stage and gets ”eaten” so that both would land. In actuality the 1st stage lands but the 2nd is expended like falcon 9.
"FELIX'" your show is better then a major movie you never fail grabbing may attention or keeping me on the edge of my seat you rock AND YOUR DRUMER IS A RAPTOR 3 ENGINE ~!
I bought shares in RKLB.. at 4.57.. it's almost 28.00.. buy and hold.. these guys are going to be really important.. They have a carbon fiber outer skin.. stronger than stainless. and much lighter.. I'd look into it guys..
One thing to keep in mind when it comes to the height of Tower2 is that it gains in two different areas. Not only is it taller (by ~6 feet) but since the launch platform is lower, it gains there too.
15:00 "there is no point in having a pad without a rocket to launch it from." I kinda disagree. Launching a pad from a rocket is a bad idea(tm), as SpaceX found out during IFT-1. SCNR 🙂
What about concentric tanks, rather than stacked tanks? It'll be interesting to see the next level of damage with 1650 tons of extra thrust being up stage 1.
You mean nested tanks, one inside the other? Yep! That's what they are doing. No downcomer, shared common dome (so only need one top, one bottom, saves weight).
I believe the answer is to have no heat shields but to spin the ship to constantly change the surface. The back side is able to strip heat away. Also possible is to add a thin layer of stainless steel wiffles
Para mi tendrian que usar dos tipod de torres, una para los despegues que resista mas temperatura y presiones y otra solo para los aterrisajes. A la de los aterrizajes tendrian que ponerle aspersores de agua para evitar los choques de presion de los motores al llegar el exaust y para prevenir problemas de sobrecalentamiento estructutral.
If they really want to recover a water landed starship, I have the solution. In the landing zone, deploy a large net with enough bouncy buoys to keep a fully flooded ship near the surface. The ship will collapse the net as it sinks, and the body’s will all pull together on the surface. Ship recovery is very similar to whale landings. The ships ramp lowers, winches work to pull the ship into the vessel. Divers could even connect inflatables to the net supporting the starship, and pull it further up the water column.
No, the second stage is suspended inside the fairing -- it separates after the fairing opens. Then the fairing (which is attached to the first stage) closes and the first stage re-enters.
@@dancingdog2790 In other words the second stage is the cargo? If the cargo is in the second stage then it is the cargo spacecraft the Neutron is transporting to orbit. That makes the Neutron a cargo ship. Stages imply separation; 1st stage booster, the 2nd stage boosts payload into orbit, etc. The Neutron comes back whole and in one stage to be reused. It is a new concept; whereas the Starship is two stages; booster and spaceship. The Neutron is only one stage. What is inside is not the rocket but the cargo Neutron shuttles to space whether it is satellites or a single spacecraft inside a large faring, such as a small shuttle.
@@Jimbo65203 No, it has a normal second-stage that does the job of delivering payload from staging to orbit. The only thing unusual about it is that it's contained entirely within the fairing attached to the first stage - but that's not _that_ unusual, since some Atlas/Centaur variants do the same thing.
@@simongeard4824 We are saying the same thing. To me, the Neutron is the rocket, and to me, your second stage is its cargo (like the 3d or 4th stages on older-style rockets). The name of the rocket is Neutron and it is one stage that returns to Earth without having to separate. It is loaded with new cargo and launched over and over again. The "suspended 2nd stage you refer to is not the Neutron and it has a different name for each cargo lifted into orbit. Staging refers to the separation of the craft into independent stages that fall to earth, and Neutron is the one-stage craft to get the object where it can boost itself into orbit.
@@Jimbo65203 But your description makes no sense. You're treating Neutron as if it's radically different from every other two-stage rocket - but it's not. Sure, having the fairing integrated into stage 1 (not detachable) is unusual, but the design is otherwise normal enough.
Yeah their whole design requires hanging the upper stage inside the lower stage and then hoping that the upper stage doesn't shatter into a million pieces when they release it and light the fuse
J'adore la traduction française avec le non sens des 'tuiles chauffantes' pour les tuiles de protection thermique, les 'bousté ' 'boustéon' (bousteur onze) ou "boustédouze".
The new launch mount is closer to ground level and much lower than the original, both because of the flame trench's subsurface level and because the booster actually sits recessed into the launch mount base. This allows for a much taller starship and booster with the same launch tower height.
@@Lu.capuchino True but the top launch base should be much closer to the ground level of the tower based on man height scle, the renderings and an eyeball from the flyover recordings.
A lot more versions than just the tanker, depot, and lunar lander. There's the Starlink launcher, a general payload launcher (bigger door), a general in-space crew variant (doesn't need to be designed for the Moon), and so on.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. My uninformed, no-engineer mind tells me Starship could easily function as stand-alone space station - for a SSaaS (Space Station as a Service) sort of thing, hence we could see a space station variant in the future. Just send such a starship to orbit with crew and supplies for the mission, can stay up there for months or as long as the mission requires, and can boost its orbit with the engines. Maybe not practical but, boy, what a hobby!
@@dudermcdudeface3674 exactly. You could easily refuel from depot. If these ships are going to be engineered for long duration deep space travel (say, like to Mars), that's already most of the behaviour and the functionality of a space station. I'm certain part of the future of making space accessible to regular people will be hundreds, if not thousands, of independent space stations for different purposes - vacationing, movie making, science, even space sports. I know I'd love to see a Starship space station variant.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, ideas and videos. Something to ask an expert, every time I post questioning how long do we think before we see a booster transferred to the cape by flight someone always says they can’t fly it like that. Who tells Elon what he can or cannot do. I’m about as qualified as any other arm chair speculator as the next. Seems to me that if a booster were launched without starship it should have more than enough thrust to coast across the Gulf of Mexico and land at the cape rather than on a floating barge. Similar to the flight plan used for falcon 9 when landing on a barge down range. Wishing you and your family the best.
You're absolutely correct. An aerodynamic nosecone cap could be made, put on top and that's all it would take. The question is if regulatory bodies would approve it.
Hey Felix, I agree. Elon has said he wants to delete the heatshield on the raptors. The only way to do this, is to do a falcon9-like entry burn. It will cost a bit more fuel, but I'm guessing its still a net-win when it comes to weight reduction (payload improvement).
01:27 I think that the upper stage broke when it fell over more because a harder re-entry was chosen and the metal became weak where heat protection tiles were removed. Not that I'm criticizing that decision , they wanted to push the upper stage to its limits.
So… I’ll just take a look in the crystal ball now. We may see liftoff from Starbase, full Orbit, maybe even refueling and then a smooth landing at the cape as soon as flight 9 or 10 I guess. Even writing this seems crazy but it’s SpaceX after all. Thinking we might see this as early as the end of next year is insane to me. If it happens I have this comment as „told ya“… 😂 Go SpaceX!
Very cool times in Space. I can't wait to see another but much more modern space station. The ISS is unbelievable but eventually it's time. I just wish out space launch systems were advanced enough to bring some of it back to Earth rather than burn it all up.
The only reason i can see why SpaceX would make the booster bigger at this stage is because they have used up their weight budget for Starship and to get enough usable cargo weight into orbit they need more fuel to get it there. There is of course nothing wrong with this approach as it's a part of the iterative design process. It does however leave some uncertainty as to whether it will ever reach it's original design goals.
The longer tower, and stronger launch base, should be wider. I am not an engineer, but I know that greater heights require wider bases. Here we are talking about a tower that must support greater powers and weights in multiple takeoffs and landings. It is also a hurricane zone...
I'm not sure if you've seen the first launch of the full stack, but given how much concrete it threw, and how far, honestly, I don't think hurricanes are gonna be the problem compared to the supersonic rocket exhaust.
I wish all the space station companies would just pool all their money together and work on a giant rotating ring space station. It could be ready by the time starship starts reaching peak launch cadence
I guess this means that if a block 2 booster starts flying now and only flies once a month, starship will still double the amount of thrust that spaceX rockets produce in a month.
Bro, It's a very small segment, He has bills to pay... very few people actually dedicate their life to reporting news let alone aerospace news! Bare with it! Might be annoying but it's reasonable.
lol, glad I’m not the only one petty enough to grumble about the channel metrics. Saying you rock starts to loose it’s originality after a few hundred times too. 😂 Still appreciate the effort they put into their frequent updates. They ROCK.
@@CameouoRemember that 1000 clicks yield about 4$, plus what Surfshark pays them, plus the merch… a channel like that is a gold mine. They don’t NEED more income - but who ever turned down more money, right?
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What do you think the piece of mystery Hardware is? Do you think it's a piece of the Block 2 booster or perhaps a Pathfinder tank?
Felix I am sorry but the information on your T shirt is not entirely correct. Raptor 3 is not meant for interplanetary travel, at least not for fleets of ships. It's too expensive, and is seen as an intermediate solution. The successor, LEET (1337) is going to supply the thrust and Isp needed for a Mars round trip, at 1/5th the price of Raptor 3 ($200,000).
so you still support piracy by pushing vpns not surprised
*forget the catch gimmick land the ship on to the skirt and or engines onto a metal plate drilled with holes to reduce exhaust blowback*
Thanks Felix.
BTW, I already have a vacuum cleaner, so you don't need to try to sell me another. 😉
I have Surfshark 😅alr
I was once again afraid you forgot to check your channel metrics
can't wait for the day he says it's over 3 million. soooon
I won't subscribe just because of this mention every video. It's also no true that I need to be 'subscribed to keep up to date', even without a sub the videos always end up being recommended. 🤷♂
@@beeman-dev If i remember right getting a click from recommended is BETTER for channel than getting it from a sub. But thats surface level and trust me noone knows how this shit works XD
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What the heck are Channel matrix? Please use easier English😂
the american space industry is one of the most exciting things happening in the world right now. Hopefully with slashed regulation it will accelerate
The tower is the same height but the mount is lower down making the tower taller relative to the mount compared to tower 1
Was just going to say that.
Yeah I was wondering why people are so confused why the tower isn't taller when relative to the mount it is.
Considering they dug a giant hole where the mount will be, it should be safe to assume it won't be as tall as pad A
can block 2 start on pad A?
@@Lu.capuchino thx 👍
I love how when I see NASA build rockets they are like "we need to build special vehicles to move parts" and SpaceX is just like "Strap that thing on the back of a F450 and get it over there".
NASA did that when there was no other way to move the parts. And NASA tended to build things that worked exactly as intended the very first time. They did not have to blown up 20 of them to figure out what to build.
@@christopherpardell4418 No, NASA didn't "build things that worked exactly as intended the very first time" , SaturnV have test flight too.
Why would you think they didn't?
@ I watched them. Their TEST flights flew perfect. Just like SpaceX’s Crew Dragon did, because for a crew capsule NASA insisted they engineer and test it THEIR way, instead of the clumsy ‘guessing at it’ method spaceX has taken for Starship. Seriously. NASA built a rapidly reusable launch pad in 1963 capable of handling a dramatically more powerful rocket. SpaceX has spent FOUR YEARS building a single use launch pad that requires millions in repair every time it’s used. Why? Because Musk decided he didn’t NEED to have Water deluge and a flame diverter, like Every OTHER large launch provider had figured out before he was born.
Over the past 4 years that Musk has stubbornly tried to prove his BAD idea for a launch pad could be somehow made to work, SpaceX COULD have been using Falcon 9’s to test smaller versions of Starship to discover what does and what doesn’t work. y’know, BEFORE building an entire launch facility and 24 rockets, NONE of which turn out to be Big enough, or strong enough to lift more than a single banana to LEO. Much less land on the moon. At his present rate of burning thru cash Starship will be 8 years late and cost 7 to 8 billion ( 5- 6 billion over budget ) and to get ONE rocket to the moon- it will require 20 starship launches. Artemis went WAY past the moon with a fully functional capsule on its FIRST attempt.
Fact it. Musk is NOT a genius. He is not even bright enough to know that vaccines save lives, or to check with a lawyer before making a joke offer on twitter that t turned out he cold be legally force to honor. Maybe that’s why a bunch of SpaceX engineers signed a letter to the board asking Musk be removed as CEO. Like he was removed as CEO of PayPal only 6 months in.
@@christopherpardell4418 troll
Somebody let the troll in. Talking about you SpaceX being late and over budget, when they are ahead of Boeing, ULA, Russia, China, India, Arianespace. But somehow the SpaceX approach is wrong. Does Elon try innovative/unconventional ideas that occasionally don't work, yes. But being traditional has left the rest of the industry far behind.
Much better without all the 42 references 😅😅
How many roads?
Blame Elon. Actually, blame Douglas!
42 million users?
@@gregbailey45 It's 420, not 42. Drugs, not Douglas.
I could not finish that last video... very annoying
Thank you for that "... except children"... you are a bad bad man... and you have my respect.
farewell
The pause caught me off guard 😂... When he started talking about protection I was laughing then the pause made me laugh Because I was thinking about the same thing 😂
fucking cringe
The Waterworld clip was perfect timing, got a real world LOL
Saw that too, I LOVED that movie, still do, shieeet
It's a total redesign of the tank layout, to get more fuel and oxidizer in to the Raptors, while also changing the 'Center of pressure vs center of mass' of the ship for more stable re-entry, and allowing the LOx to keep the CH4 cold for longer.
It's a tank-inside-a-tank design, so both tanks are full height and both feed the raptors from the tank bottom.
The Down-comer (down pipe?) running through the middle of the lower tank becomes the inner tank. It'll likely move mass from the shared bulkhead in the middle of the Block 1 design, in to the wall of the inner tank, but that tanks wall can also be a lot thinner as the pressure difference between the tanks will be far less then that to the outside.
It'll also reduce the need for braces to support the mass of the top tank above the bottom one during fuel loading, and shorten the run from the QD Panel to the inner tank compared to a pipe to the upper tank. Plus the sharing of both top and bottom domes is possible, reducing mass once more.
@@PiDsPagePrototypes ok trumpfan
@@akirathedog777 How do you conflate an opinion on the design elements, with how someone votes? Perhaps look through other posts and see how much I despise the orange clown and his unhinged jester before you decide to be abusive to people?
But.. didn't they have issues of CH4 getting frozen from O2 or was it from liquid He ? The more shared surface between those tanks are the worse, at least in that design.
Felix, I love your excitement, wonder, and enthusiasm. It's infectious!
06:54 Remember when: top domes were welded together from pieces of sheet steel?
Pepperidge Farm remembers
06:44 fixed it.
Rookies ha
Felix......I think most of us love your knowledge and upbeat attitude during your descriptions of the proceedings! Thanks for all you do!
Don't know why, this vid gave me pure joy!!!
Thank you Felix and team! Send my best wishes to your wife and family, supporting you on this.
You're pure class in presentation! 😅
I'm afraid you neglected to look at your channel analytics once more.
Thank you i love this show! Every time i watch it i feel optimistic for the Future!
Love your animation of the 14 Falcon 9s! lol Can't wait to see Block 2 Booster. This video is awesome! Thanks
@@StarShipWatcherVaderJEJ 3 Saturn 5 to
Thanks for the update on the Rocket Lab Neutron program. I have great hopes that RL will become the next "SpaceX' and carve out their own niche in the launch market. If Neutron is successful it bodes well for their future.
Another problem dealing with Italian industrial companies is what I called the “effing Luigi“ problem.
Example (and I’ll only give you one, but I’ve got more!) So I bought 36 three phase industrial chemical pumps, all “identical.”
Half were wired one way, have a different way. 1/3 use gray wires, 1/3 use pink wires, 1/3 use white wires.
One day, Mario is working, he did things a certain way. Then on a different day effing Luigi was working and he did things differently.
Half my pumps sucked, the other half blew!
I 💩 you not.
…And don’t say I’m anti-Italian, my family is from NE Naples.
I love the Italian people, I love Italian food, I love Italian culture… But their craftsman attitude goes completely against manufacturing repeatability.
I’m sure anyone who’s owned an Italian car has the same experience.
NOOO THE BANANA SANK!!
Yep. The first hero of the plant kingdom drowned. Such a terrible story.
the epic saga of the banananaut
I'm dying lmao😂
And his name was "Bob".
Yeah, Bob!
But the story is still apeeling.
Danke Felix für diesen mal wieder hoch intreressanten Beitrag!
Sehr gerne! ❤️
There's something everybody keeps forgetting when we talked about extra tanks that are appearing on the site that might be a little larger than we should need. We are going to have to refuel in space very soon. These could be part of the internal refueling system of one of the starships.
I considered that possibility when I first saw the tank (I think Lab Padre showed it first), or...it could be for some other purpose at the site.
thank you for covering the space station industries
02:14 "A BAG FULL OF HEAT TILES." *pause "HAHAHAHA" - love it.
Thanks!
Thank you so much! ❤️❤️❤️
Tytyty
A real pleasure & fun to watch!
Thank you & your team.
Thank you so much for covering other companies in the industry, especially Rocket Lab! While people continue to act like Blue Origin is somehow a competitor to SpaceX, Rocket Lab is the real deal, and their current technology and future ambitions are already rendering Blue Origin's non-existent advancements obsolete before they even reach the launch pad. At the same time Rocket Lab has found niches in the industry which allow them to exist alongside SpaceX rather than be decimated as a direct competitor. Rocket Lab is currently near the top of my list of companies that I really want to work for.
Venus is still on Peter Beck's plate, I hope.
I am pretty sure Sir Peter Beck told on recent interview with few retail investors who follow the stock here on RUclips, that their full focus is on Neutron for re-usability, so Electron being re-used is probably not going to happen (anytime soon) at least for now.
Yup; don’t think they are doing any real further work on Electron reusability at all. That may be a mistake; but that’s what’s (not) happening. - Dave Huntsman
correct- full focus on Neutron
@@octopify As it should be. The Electron is just keeping them in the game and giving them some revenue flow. The Neutron (and the possible successor, the Quark! ;-) -those are the future of RocketLab. No Neutron, no future.
Felix should go full chrome dome, he'd look like a bad ass
Danke!
Vielen lieben Dank! ❤️🙏
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The two towers are almost the same height but the lauch pad is lower on tower B right ? that would compensate the difference in size of booster block 1 and 2
That was exactly what I was thinking, Other than having a crane lift each starship into place, there’s no way they would build a block 2 unless they had the means to mount them. I think it’s a safe, bet that only tower to in the future will be able to launch them until modifications are made to tower one.
I hate that Relativity doesn't seem to be doing so well.
Their rise was almost meteoric and so much potential.
Enjoyed the info on the space stations. Thanks
I like the tech that Relativity space uses, and the idea of printing ships. Do wish there was more news to report about them. hope they make it.
14:16 this makes it sound like the 2nd stage returns to the first stage and gets ”eaten” so that both would land. In actuality the 1st stage lands but the 2nd is expended like falcon 9.
"FELIX'" your show is better then a major movie you never fail grabbing may attention or keeping me on the edge of my seat you rock AND YOUR DRUMER IS A RAPTOR 3 ENGINE ~!
Thank you so much! It’s a pleasure! We’re living in exciting times!!! 🔥
Just wonderful to see how far he came.
Yes, from Germany. That's pretty far (from Starbase)
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You’re remarkable at what you do!
Rocket lab's successor to neutron should be Quark. Then we can have a Top Quark (2nd stage) and a Bottom Quark(Booster).
🤣Then we'll have to see what they come up with to use "spin", "iso-spin", "strangeness", and "charm".
yes yes yes, love this. Maybe the Quark can be their human-rated launch vehicle! I'd ride a Quark to orbit for sure
Thanks Felix!
That thruster prototype was super cool to see!
9:54 those triangular variants of starship looks good.
I bought shares in RKLB.. at 4.57.. it's almost 28.00.. buy and hold.. these guys are going to be really important.. They have a carbon fiber outer skin.. stronger than stainless. and much lighter.. I'd look into it guys..
Love the Channel Metrics Dude ! So Super Cool ! Great Info !
One thing to keep in mind when it comes to the height of Tower2 is that it gains in two different areas.
Not only is it taller (by ~6 feet) but since the launch platform is lower, it gains there too.
Good morning Felix!
Good morning Mason!
Good morning Dennis!
Nice touch using Water World stock!!!
15:00 "there is no point in having a pad without a rocket to launch it from."
I kinda disagree. Launching a pad from a rocket is a bad idea(tm), as SpaceX found out during IFT-1.
SCNR 🙂
Massive year for spaceX coming??
Not just for them new glenn and the rocket labs neutron should be launching next year too
Love your videos. Keep up the great work team!
Thank you! Will do!
Perhaps Tower B isn't as tall as we anticipated because its OLM isn't going to be as tall as Tower A's OLM. Just wondering.
Yeah that's probably why. Considering the fact that they had to dig a hole in the ground.
Makes zero sense why they just dont land it on a buoy and return it to starbase
Without that the 2nd lanchtower is much longer, it can still have a longer booster+starship because the booster is standing on a much lower launchpad.
Nice video, thanks for these last news from space
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NAH 7:45 IS CRAZY
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What about concentric tanks, rather than stacked tanks? It'll be interesting to see the next level of damage with 1650 tons of extra thrust being up stage 1.
You mean nested tanks, one inside the other? Yep! That's what they are doing. No downcomer, shared common dome (so only need one top, one bottom, saves weight).
I believe the answer is to have no heat shields but to spin the ship to constantly change the surface. The back side is able to strip heat away. Also possible is to add a thin layer of stainless steel wiffles
That will not work. Crew would perish. Heat is too intense.
I trust your channel and appreciate your hard work. This video told me what I wanted to know. Thanks Felix.
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I really love information about space technology. Thank you for covering it!
@15:00 "But there is no point in having a pad if you don't have a rocket to launch it from." 😆
Now THAT would be a neat trick!!!
1:54 "A literal bag full of heat tiles, A bag full of heat tiles HA HA HA." Dr evil has arrived!
Nice Waterworld Cameo 😅
you got love those bloopers
Tower 2 isn't that much taller, but the launch deck on the new mount looks like it's going to be considerably lower.
Anyone care to give the spoilers of the specs in this video? Dont feel like fast-forwarding 5 seconds a time for 20 min for it :P
@@mistrants2745 laziness at its peak maybe listen to it like a podcast 😂
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Go to your RUclips settings, you can shift the 5 second skip all the way up to 30 seconds!
Why would you want to bother yourself with details
Tiktok attention span
Para mi tendrian que usar dos tipod de torres, una para los despegues que resista mas temperatura y presiones y otra solo para los aterrisajes. A la de los aterrizajes tendrian que ponerle aspersores de agua para evitar los choques de presion de los motores al llegar el exaust y para prevenir problemas de sobrecalentamiento estructutral.
If they really want to recover a water landed starship, I have the solution. In the landing zone, deploy a large net with enough bouncy buoys to keep a fully flooded ship near the surface. The ship will collapse the net as it sinks, and the body’s will all pull together on the surface. Ship recovery is very similar to whale landings. The ships ramp lowers, winches work to pull the ship into the vessel. Divers could even connect inflatables to the net supporting the starship, and pull it further up the water column.
Neutron is, basically, a one-stage cargo rocket, up and down, and that's it, no separation of stages. What you see is what you get.
No, the second stage is suspended inside the fairing -- it separates after the fairing opens. Then the fairing (which is attached to the first stage) closes and the first stage re-enters.
@@dancingdog2790 In other words the second stage is the cargo? If the cargo is in the second stage then it is the cargo spacecraft the Neutron is transporting to orbit. That makes the Neutron a cargo ship. Stages imply separation; 1st stage booster, the 2nd stage boosts payload into orbit, etc. The Neutron comes back whole and in one stage to be reused. It is a new concept; whereas the Starship is two stages; booster and spaceship. The Neutron is only one stage. What is inside is not the rocket but the cargo Neutron shuttles to space whether it is satellites or a single spacecraft inside a large faring, such as a small shuttle.
@@Jimbo65203 No, it has a normal second-stage that does the job of delivering payload from staging to orbit. The only thing unusual about it is that it's contained entirely within the fairing attached to the first stage - but that's not _that_ unusual, since some Atlas/Centaur variants do the same thing.
@@simongeard4824 We are saying the same thing. To me, the Neutron is the rocket, and to me, your second stage is its cargo (like the 3d or 4th stages on older-style rockets). The name of the rocket is Neutron and it is one stage that returns to Earth without having to separate. It is loaded with new cargo and launched over and over again. The "suspended 2nd stage you refer to is not the Neutron and it has a different name for each cargo lifted into orbit. Staging refers to the separation of the craft into independent stages that fall to earth, and Neutron is the one-stage craft to get the object where it can boost itself into orbit.
@@Jimbo65203 But your description makes no sense. You're treating Neutron as if it's radically different from every other two-stage rocket - but it's not. Sure, having the fairing integrated into stage 1 (not detachable) is unusual, but the design is otherwise normal enough.
Yeah their whole design requires hanging the upper stage inside the lower stage and then hoping that the upper stage doesn't shatter into a million pieces when they release it and light the fuse
Can't wait for new glenn and starship v2
Bigger is often better! More stability. Increased drag for braking thereby using less fuel to land the vehicle….
This is obviously a wise move
GR8 show as usual Felix my man! GR8 info as usual!!
Thanks Felix !
You’re welcome! ❤️
Another great report!!! Thank You!!!
J'adore la traduction française avec le non sens des 'tuiles chauffantes' pour les tuiles de protection thermique, les 'bousté ' 'boustéon' (bousteur onze) ou "boustédouze".
The new launch mount is closer to ground level and much lower than the original, both because of the flame trench's subsurface level and because the booster actually sits recessed into the launch mount base. This allows for a much taller starship and booster with the same launch tower height.
@@Lu.capuchino True but the top launch base should be much closer to the ground level of the tower based on man height scle, the renderings and an eyeball from the flyover recordings.
Thank You very much, dear Felix
A lot more versions than just the tanker, depot, and lunar lander. There's the Starlink launcher, a general payload launcher (bigger door), a general in-space crew variant (doesn't need to be designed for the Moon), and so on.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. My uninformed, no-engineer mind tells me Starship could easily function as stand-alone space station - for a SSaaS (Space Station as a Service) sort of thing, hence we could see a space station variant in the future. Just send such a starship to orbit with crew and supplies for the mission, can stay up there for months or as long as the mission requires, and can boost its orbit with the engines. Maybe not practical but, boy, what a hobby!
@@okirooju3787 Makes sense. Station-keeping doesn't take much fuel, and whatever you need could top up from depots.
@@dudermcdudeface3674 exactly. You could easily refuel from depot. If these ships are going to be engineered for long duration deep space travel (say, like to Mars), that's already most of the behaviour and the functionality of a space station. I'm certain part of the future of making space accessible to regular people will be hundreds, if not thousands, of independent space stations for different purposes - vacationing, movie making, science, even space sports. I know I'd love to see a Starship space station variant.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, ideas and videos. Something to ask an expert, every time I post questioning how long do we think before we see a booster transferred to the cape by flight someone always says they can’t fly it like that. Who tells Elon what he can or cannot do. I’m about as qualified as any other arm chair speculator as the next. Seems to me that if a booster were launched without starship it should have more than enough thrust to coast across the Gulf of Mexico and land at the cape rather than on a floating barge. Similar to the flight plan used for falcon 9 when landing on a barge down range. Wishing you and your family the best.
You're absolutely correct. An aerodynamic nosecone cap could be made, put on top and that's all it would take. The question is if regulatory bodies would approve it.
Felix....forever the kid in the Worlds largest toy shop....
I enjoy your podcasts thank you
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omg the shots of the Final Order being the comparison to Elon's fleet had me cackling
I wonder what it feels like to feel a Felix.
12 mins after release, somehow already watched whole video without skipping. Time must be warled where im at ir some other weird phenomenon.
Excellent stuff bro
Come on Axium space!!! We need a space station!
Hey Felix, I agree. Elon has said he wants to delete the heatshield on the raptors. The only way to do this, is to do a falcon9-like entry burn. It will cost a bit more fuel, but I'm guessing its still a net-win when it comes to weight reduction (payload improvement).
01:27 I think that the upper stage broke when it fell over more because a harder re-entry was chosen and the metal became weak where heat protection tiles were removed.
Not that I'm criticizing that decision , they wanted to push the upper stage to its limits.
@Lu.capuchino Yeah, a stubborn piece 😁
The holy grail would be to get a single stage LEO so all that volume in the entire upper stage could be used for the next space station.
So… I’ll just take a look in the crystal ball now. We may see liftoff from Starbase, full Orbit, maybe even refueling and then a smooth landing at the cape as soon as flight 9 or 10 I guess. Even writing this seems crazy but it’s SpaceX after all. Thinking we might see this as early as the end of next year is insane to me. If it happens I have this comment as „told ya“… 😂 Go SpaceX!
Very cool times in Space. I can't wait to see another but much more modern space station. The ISS is unbelievable but eventually it's time. I just wish out space launch systems were advanced enough to bring some of it back to Earth rather than burn it all up.
Another great Video thank you Felix and Crew. I checked BTW I am still subscribed 🙂
Awesome! Glad to have you! 😁 Thanks for watching!!!
Buoy is pronounced “boy” it comes from the word “buoyant”.
The only reason i can see why SpaceX would make the booster bigger at this stage is because they have used up their weight budget for Starship and to get enough usable cargo weight into orbit they need more fuel to get it there. There is of course nothing wrong with this approach as it's a part of the iterative design process. It does however leave some uncertainty as to whether it will ever reach it's original design goals.
interesting ?
No it doesn't
Don't stop uploading video in Spanish, I like it a lot❤❤❤
The longer tower, and stronger launch base, should be wider. I am not an engineer, but I know that greater heights require wider bases. Here we are talking about a tower that must support greater powers and weights in multiple takeoffs and landings. It is also a hurricane zone...
I'm not sure if you've seen the first launch of the full stack, but given how much concrete it threw, and how far, honestly, I don't think hurricanes are gonna be the problem compared to the supersonic rocket exhaust.
Regarding ship recovery off Australia: very bright prospects for Block 2. No deliberate weakening viz. OFT6.
I wish all the space station companies would just pool all their money together and work on a giant rotating ring space station. It could be ready by the time starship starts reaching peak launch cadence
It was 2.8 mil last week and the week before and the week before that.
For a year at least 😜
I guess this means that if a block 2 booster starts flying now and only flies once a month, starship will still double the amount of thrust that spaceX rockets produce in a month.
Please stop the “channel metrics” man it annoying to the people who are subscribed and returning to watch your videos
Bro, It's a very small segment, He has bills to pay... very few people actually dedicate their life to reporting news let alone aerospace news! Bare with it! Might be annoying but it's reasonable.
@@leonardoaleman8243 honestly not really
lol, glad I’m not the only one petty enough to grumble about the channel metrics. Saying you rock starts to loose it’s originality after a few hundred times too. 😂 Still appreciate the effort they put into their frequent updates. They ROCK.
@@CameouoRemember that 1000 clicks yield about 4$, plus what Surfshark pays them, plus the merch… a channel like that is a gold mine. They don’t NEED more income - but who ever turned down more money, right?
Annoying to us people who aren’t subscribed, too. 😂