Followed your link and ordered the RO unit , came next morning for £55. Followed your video re: installation. Perfect. The results... well just amazing. I have London Sutton tap water and despite so many attempts at homebrew I never got good results. My ales and bitters , particularly using american hops have been a revelation. Also I have to add hardly any acid to achieve a target PH ( under 1ml) and I now observe a better efficiency and Trub separation because of better ph.. Adding salts I have found a balanced profile is a good place to start. My lagers are still work in progress with the water profile edging towards very malty . I was about to give up, so thanks.
Brilliant video! I am convinced... I had never given my water profiles too much thought but you have convinced me to get the RO system and pay more attention to my water!
thanks, it does depend on what your water is like to start with but if its not ideal like mine then an RO is a great starting point and allows you to customise your water profiles fully for any style
@@DudesBrews Perfect! Yeah my water is hard! I have previously mostly brewed stouts but have noticed on recent SMaSH beers that they are not quite right. Must be the water. Looking forward to trying it out 👍
Just installed my 6-Stage system with re-mineralisation filter,... Haven't tried it yet as the system is currently doing a flush. I can't wait to taste this cleaned water and I'm searching what others have thought on first taste.
I was glad to discover your video, you seem to use an identical unit to the piece I ordered Thursday just without the fourth stage, and you also included details I haven't seen in other videos. Thanks!
@@DudesBrews It was indeed, and even though I bought mine for my aquariums, I kept watching your video to the end and you may have introduced me to a future hobby. lol
@@DudesBrews I'm quite sure my ambitions will be properly stifled by the lack of availability as far as ingredients go. This is why I have too many hobbies, I live on the ass end of Europe where it's quite impossible to immerse yourself in one particular thing, because you don't have access to all the materials needed to do that one thing really well. Aaanyway TMI, your channel seems to be a great starting point, I'll explore my options in the summer, cheers!
Nice move forward pretty much the same set up I have, great piece of kit. An in-line TDS meter would be an invaluable guide to water quality in and water quality out. Tasty sounding SMaSH too.
looking to get a RO system myself, and this video was the most helpful I have seen so far. many thanks. subscribed fairly recently, not sure if you have mentioned it before, but what sort of PH meter is that and what's your feedback on it? thanks again
thanks, the PH meter is a voltcraft pht-01, its sort of a mid range option and seems ok more robust and reliable than the cheap ones on amazon/ebay. Main downside is its only single point calibration so that could bring in to question the accuracy of it but for brewing purposes its probably sufficient
Thanks for the vid it's very interesting. I have a couple of questions. 1) Why did you choose the 4 stage over the 3 stage? 2) How often do you need to change the filters/membranes etc?
I wonder if the flow rates of the units either side of the ro membrane unit is enough to support adding a second ro unit in parallel with the first one ? I also wonder if you could run the waste water back through the system to improve overall efficiency ?
Interesting idea, 2 in parallel could work if you have sufficient water pressure I think. If you did run the waste water back through it would need a pump for sufficient pressure and in theory it could provide better efficiency but I think it would significantly shorten the lifespan of the filters as the dissolved solids in the effluent are so high
If I was working I think id be tempted to have a play with this, possibly with some kind of controlled closed loop system using a tank to do a controlled recirculation. In some respects being unemployed atm is a plus, I already have a bunch of projects as it is :D
Great video many thanks, some obvious questions I have - do you still need to add a campden for treatment of chloromide / chloromines? or does this remove them? Also, what do you assume for your RO water profile, fully blank or do you assume some content still based on the % removal stated by the manufacturer? Or am I over thinking it?! Great channel like a all grain how to for a beginner like me!
thanks! yes it removes all chlorine/chloramine so no need for campden. I just assume a blank slate there may be a nominal amount of minerals left but you wont no exactly what and its such a small amount that theres no point worrying about it
Seems a good idea with all this water treatment to get a perfect water for brewing , could you not buy RO water to save on time and waste water. I’ve thought about doing water profiles but never got around to it, have enough on my plate just brewing .Thanks for sharing .
Steve Moulson buying RO is one option but time wise I don’t think it would make much difference as I will just leave the filter running to collect the water and it only takes a minute to hook up to tap. I think I prefer the convenience of having it at home as well. Not sure how the cost would work out over time tbh but I think with the amount I will use it that shouldn’t be too much of an issue. Cheers 🍻
still going strong, not used a pump or bought anything else to go with it apart from some longer hoses so I could run the pipes out to the shed. Its been used a lot for the brewing and the filters still seem to be working well, I have renewed the DI resin in the final stage once but that is all so far
Still going strong! Can't really knock it but bear in mind it can be slow especially if your water is particularly hard, mine goes at about 8L per hour on a good day...
@@DudesBrews thank you. I have since discovered the video on shortening the input line to help with the pressure, etc. Will probably get this same unit and do exactly that. The price really can’t be beat. Out of interest are you simply stealing the feed from your outside tap? I’m potentially going to try and tap into the cold water feed that keeps my boiler topped up (I think one of you may have mentioned the option of doing that on the podcast at some point, if memory serves me well - should equate to some decent pressure). Thanks again, as always.
@@TomBurwood-Ansell I used to run it off the outside tap but it was probably me that mentioned connecting it to the boiler feed as thats how I have it set up in the garage now. Happy to send you some more info on that if you want to message me on facebook or via email
So, the 'waste' water will obviously have higher TDS than what goes in - is there anything useful you can do with it? Can you water the garden for example or is the TDS too high for that?
Hi, what are those RO systems like for taking out to use and packing away again? Do they need mounted and regularly flushed with water, or ok on a shelf and used once a month or so? Also, keep up the podcast, really enjoying it!
I have mine set up with hoselock fittings so i just attach when needed, packs away in space not much bigger than a large shoe box. I flush it out when I’m about to use it and haven’t had any issues. Cheers for the feedback on the pod! 👍🏻🍻
@@DudesBrews sounds great. I've been buying 30L of tesco ashbeck up to now, but i watched a sarah pantry vid recently and was surprised to hear it was cheaper for tap water even with the RO losses. That's christmas sorted! 👍
Followed your link and ordered the RO unit , came next morning for £55. Followed your video re: installation. Perfect. The results... well just amazing. I have London Sutton tap water and despite so many attempts at homebrew I never got good results. My ales and bitters , particularly using american hops have been a revelation. Also I have to add hardly any acid to achieve a target PH ( under 1ml) and I now observe a better efficiency and Trub separation because of better ph.. Adding salts I have found a balanced profile is a good place to start. My lagers are still work in progress with the water profile edging towards very malty . I was about to give up, so thanks.
Brilliant video! I am convinced... I had never given my water profiles too much thought but you have convinced me to get the RO system and pay more attention to my water!
thanks, it does depend on what your water is like to start with but if its not ideal like mine then an RO is a great starting point and allows you to customise your water profiles fully for any style
p.s check out the pod cast episode we did on water if you want more info on water for brewing
www.thehopaddition.uk/podcast/water-chemistry/
@@DudesBrews Perfect! Yeah my water is hard! I have previously mostly brewed stouts but have noticed on recent SMaSH beers that they are not quite right. Must be the water.
Looking forward to trying it out 👍
Very interesting seeing you set it all up and using it for a brew. It looks a decent bit of kit and not too expensive. Very tempting. Cheers
I just brought one of these off amazon exact same one and glad I found your video the instructions are not the best.
Thank you 👍
bassmachine3 I just install mine as well. Luckily we have his video to help.
Just installed my 6-Stage system with re-mineralisation filter,... Haven't tried it yet as the system is currently doing a flush.
I can't wait to taste this cleaned water and I'm searching what others have thought on first taste.
I was glad to discover your video, you seem to use an identical unit to the piece I ordered Thursday just without the fourth stage, and you also included details I haven't seen in other videos. Thanks!
cheers dom glad it was helpful for you
@@DudesBrews It was indeed, and even though I bought mine for my aquariums, I kept watching your video to the end and you may have introduced me to a future hobby. lol
@@dominic.h.3363 haha be careful its an addictive hobby lol cheers
@@DudesBrews I'm quite sure my ambitions will be properly stifled by the lack of availability as far as ingredients go. This is why I have too many hobbies, I live on the ass end of Europe where it's quite impossible to immerse yourself in one particular thing, because you don't have access to all the materials needed to do that one thing really well. Aaanyway TMI, your channel seems to be a great starting point, I'll explore my options in the summer, cheers!
Good stuff Rich. I really must get mine into operation too... I'll try and fettle that for my next brew.
Vinland Brewery cheers fella, yes you should get it set up, that and the keg system ya lazy shite! 😉😆
Haha, yeah... I can't argue with that. 😉
"Ooh ya bastard!" That alone gets my seal of approval.😂
I believe you can buy an attachment to the garden tap that has a timer, used for things live sprinklers. May help you, could fill the pot/s overnight.
Greig Thomson that’s a great idea thanks greig I will have to look into that 👍🏻🍻
Nice move forward pretty much the same set up I have, great piece of kit. An in-line TDS meter would be an invaluable guide to water quality in and water quality out. Tasty sounding SMaSH too.
Heathen Brewer cheers Steve yes got a TDS meter on the way, hopefully it will confirm everything is working properly 👍🏻
Love the crocs Tricky... Style never goes out of fashion...
ElChemist Homebrew I fucking love my crocs mate 😂 best shoe I ever bought
Thanks for video, instructions are awful. Using for Marine aquarium. All running now. Cheers
You can store RO Water away from sunlight for months.
Good video, looking forward to the results cheers
Craig Neuberger cheers Craig me too going to get a pilsner on next as well so I can give it a good test run
looking to get a RO system myself, and this video was the most helpful I have seen so far. many thanks. subscribed fairly recently, not sure if you have mentioned it before, but what sort of PH meter is that and what's your feedback on it? thanks again
thanks, the PH meter is a voltcraft pht-01, its sort of a mid range option and seems ok more robust and reliable than the cheap ones on amazon/ebay. Main downside is its only single point calibration so that could bring in to question the accuracy of it but for brewing purposes its probably sufficient
Thanks for the vid it's very interesting. I have a couple of questions. 1) Why did you choose the 4 stage over the 3 stage? 2) How often do you need to change the filters/membranes etc?
Seems a little confusing to setup but I imagine you're going to get some great beer. Cheers!
I wonder if the flow rates of the units either side of the ro membrane unit is enough to support adding a second ro unit in parallel with the first one ?
I also wonder if you could run the waste water back through the system to improve overall efficiency ?
Interesting idea, 2 in parallel could work if you have sufficient water pressure I think. If you did run the waste water back through it would need a pump for sufficient pressure and in theory it could provide better efficiency but I think it would significantly shorten the lifespan of the filters as the dissolved solids in the effluent are so high
If I was working I think id be tempted to have a play with this, possibly with some kind of controlled closed loop system using a tank to do a controlled recirculation.
In some respects being unemployed atm is a plus, I already have a bunch of projects as it is :D
Great video many thanks, some obvious questions I have - do you still need to add a campden for treatment of chloromide / chloromines? or does this remove them?
Also, what do you assume for your RO water profile, fully blank or do you assume some content still based on the % removal stated by the manufacturer? Or am I over thinking it?!
Great channel like a all grain how to for a beginner like me!
thanks! yes it removes all chlorine/chloramine so no need for campden. I just assume a blank slate there may be a nominal amount of minerals left but you wont no exactly what and its such a small amount that theres no point worrying about it
@@DudesBrews Thanks for the help, all the fun of setting mine up this weekend! Keep up the good work!
Seems a good idea with all this water treatment to get a perfect water for brewing , could you not buy RO water to save on time and waste water. I’ve thought about doing water profiles but never got around to it, have enough on my plate just brewing .Thanks for sharing .
Steve Moulson buying RO is one option but time wise I don’t think it would make much difference as I will just leave the filter running to collect the water and it only takes a minute to hook up to tap. I think I prefer the convenience of having it at home as well. Not sure how the cost would work out over time tbh but I think with the amount I will use it that shouldn’t be too much of an issue. Cheers 🍻
Great video, how are you getting on with this now? Did you need to buy a pump or any accessories?
still going strong, not used a pump or bought anything else to go with it apart from some longer hoses so I could run the pipes out to the shed. Its been used a lot for the brewing and the filters still seem to be working well, I have renewed the DI resin in the final stage once but that is all so far
@@DudesBrews Cheers mate, love your channel
Tricky, are you still using this or have you upgraded? Thinking of purchasing.
Cheers!
Still going strong! Can't really knock it but bear in mind it can be slow especially if your water is particularly hard, mine goes at about 8L per hour on a good day...
@@DudesBrews thank you. I have since discovered the video on shortening the input line to help with the pressure, etc. Will probably get this same unit and do exactly that. The price really can’t be beat.
Out of interest are you simply stealing the feed from your outside tap? I’m potentially going to try and tap into the cold water feed that keeps my boiler topped up (I think one of you may have mentioned the option of doing that on the podcast at some point, if memory serves me well - should equate to some decent pressure).
Thanks again, as always.
@@TomBurwood-Ansell I used to run it off the outside tap but it was probably me that mentioned connecting it to the boiler feed as thats how I have it set up in the garage now. Happy to send you some more info on that if you want to message me on facebook or via email
@@DudesBrews ah, I didn’t make it up then. Legend, I’ll message you.
So, the 'waste' water will obviously have higher TDS than what goes in - is there anything useful you can do with it? Can you water the garden for example or is the TDS too high for that?
sorry for the late reply, its fine for the garden in fact some people would say its even better for plants with the increased mineral content
Hi, what are those RO systems like for taking out to use and packing away again? Do they need mounted and regularly flushed with water, or ok on a shelf and used once a month or so?
Also, keep up the podcast, really enjoying it!
I have mine set up with hoselock fittings so i just attach when needed, packs away in space not much bigger than a large shoe box. I flush it out when I’m about to use it and haven’t had any issues. Cheers for the feedback on the pod! 👍🏻🍻
@@DudesBrews sounds great. I've been buying 30L of tesco ashbeck up to now, but i watched a sarah pantry vid recently and was surprised to hear it was cheaper for tap water even with the RO losses. That's christmas sorted! 👍
Hi. Did you say where your tap water is from? What part of the UK?
Bedford, Anglian water
@@DudesBrews cool. Mine in East Devon is just as hard. I'm going RO on a Pilsner this week. Cheers for the video.
Where's the taste video?
ruclips.net/video/QQbFcgAGRBA/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/phhzfVzcXHs/видео.html
@@DudesBrews nice one mate! RO filter on top of my to-buy-list. Thanks!
Cheers glad I don't need that stuff.