Have you heard the tragedy of Edvin of the Awsome. It's not something you would hear from the quickie babies. He reached such levels of rage he could sence when others would be hit by arty. Ironic he saved others but couldn't save himself.
Well, I guess the rationale behind the compensation mechanic is that heavies are usually more into the fight than mediums, CQC and all and it would be awkward to have monster reloads and punishment for basically shooting. But in my mind...it's just making them more idiot proof, since low skill players gravitate towards heavies anyways...a decent player would just fire first shell only and the other two if there's a kill to secure or a good opportunity....exactly like mediums. I agree with you, nobody is going to consciously use this mechanic. However, I've seen that on the Supertest/TS the Rinoceronte had a "beep" sound when the grace period was available so maybe that would help a bit since a sound cue might be used as an unconscious reflex trigger.
@AwesomeEpicGuys I understand why this tank feels OP or at least borderline OP for right now. However, gun handling and DPM of this tank kinda downgrade it. Not so great pen on standart rounds make it BALANCED! for tier VIIIs YET - we all know in tier X this tank with this accuraty and bad gold rounds is gonna struggle to hit weakspots of vehicles that are played correctly against it because then weakspots are the ONLY thing this will be able to penetrate frontally. Which will result either in HE spam, gold spam → less credits. For example Super Conqueror, E5 wiggling turret, E100 hulldown or even 430U (which are meta tech tree obviously) are gonna be big sad for the C45 driver. Not even speaking of tanks like IS-4 or ST-II, or other sidescrapers. As 270 HEAT which gets consumed by their tracks and screens and has absolute 0 shell normalization is gonna be simply more damage blocked for enemy. Which leaves the C45 driver with only few options: 1 - (Load clip of HE and detrack while do some damage - BTW good luck with this in era of buffed spall liners which are quite frequently used) 2 - (Rush and clip enemy tonk hoping for team support - excuse me what did you say Team WHAT? support ... in WoT 2020 ... yes please - it might work but not reliably and only in specific situations) 3 - (Retreat / find another target hoping for enemy to push and show weak spots like lower plate / maouver so that you can get some juicy side shots) 4 - (Stay where you are and get completely fucked by skycancer prem shells) 5 - (some other options depending on situation indeed as mobilty of C45 ain't bad for HT with such armor) Tank definitely benefits from Screens all over it which makes it not paper for HEAT rounds, HE shells and even arty in some cases in which arty hits front of tank or splashes. People playing against you did see C45 for first time, didn't know its weakspots ... so a lot more bounces occured compared to what it's gonna be after few months. Armor is realiable on hulls upper plate and that's very big plus (Thanks WG in this one case). You mentioned turret has no weakspots ... that turret weakspot without screens definitely ain't small and i think all of us will be surprised how many pens are gonna go in there. Even from standart rounds on tier X ... not mentioning 340 pen heats of most tier Xs and go straight trough the turret. This tank is gonna suffer a lot from era of prem ammo. Note: Im not surprised that tier Xs can wreck some tier VIII ... neither im saying its wrong. I only tried to explain why this vehicle ain't as OP as it seems for now. Conclusion from my side: Very good vehicle for tier VIII, with interesting new mechanic. Definitely not bad for some tier VIII skirms or especially also coz it's mobility ... C45 I think is most likely gonna be more than very good tank for Frontline → credit making, anything below tier VIII and even some tier VIII tanks with bad armor are going to be wrecked by it's HE if used properly, not even mentioning internal module damage. Feel free to say what you feel different about, I like discussing WoT related stuff.
@SupremePrestige Sherman Jumbo sherman Jumbo sherman T-34 T-34-85 Pz IV Pz IV H Pz IV D Pz III Jpz 38t And the list goes on... We wouldn't even have tier 10, most of the high tier tanks would be either pershings or king tigers.
Edvan recently 3-marked it. The requirements were higher than most tier 8 prems. Still a beast. Most people dislike it because of the lack of dpm and derpy gun handling. But those 2 factors are literally the only 2 holding the tank back.
@@AwesomeEpicGuys I agree, by the way, you did amazing on that replay with the tier 8 techtree heavy, i watched it on jingles. Is there a video on your channel about the replay? or was it off stream?
The turret has 2 spots with 250-270 mm armor effective while using gun depression, the cheeks right next to the gun and above the spaced armor right above the cheeks, as well as the horrible dpm If they have a few tanks more than you they can push through your ridge and eat the 1k burst you deal, and take out your whole tank, and you won't be able to reload once. The tank seems good if you have teamates with you, but you have to be really close up due to bad accuracy and gun handling, making it easier for them to hit the turrets weaker areas The turret is great on a ridgeline, but as soon as a tier 9 heavy loads gold, or a t8 td such as a skorpion hits the weaker areas of your turret with standard, or hits your turret frontally with gold, they are going right through
So, here is the deal you are forgetting that I HAVE run into trouble for with my progettos. The audio for shell loading kicks in a bit ahead if the shell actually being ready. This mechanic is going to save me so much trouble of that mismatch of audio cue and mechanic function and has basically resynchronized them, which for a heavy in a brawl is probably pretty good
They should release the tech tree BEFORE the premiums when they have a new mechanic. That way we don't end up with premiums that are broken OP and can't be nerfed.
Pros: extremely strong hull down, clip potential Cons: gun handling, low dpm. Speed is average, ammo is average to decent pen, good velocity on standard ammo but slow heat. Seems reasonably balanced for once but I guess time will tell, and it won't feel balanced if you're facing one hull down
English second language, not good at writing it. So I used the speak to text on iPhone. My accent made it hard to understand. But you’ll get the general idea. My thoughts on the new account it would be that the loader would have the shell in his hand in the closer you are to the grace. The closer he is realistically to having that showing the container. However if you fire the gun the loader would have to be clear because the in container for all the reloader as well as the wholesome before the gun rotates back which would kill the loader. So the loader hast to get all the way which would mean he already has a shell in his hand which he doesn’t have to get all the rack he already is ready to load it and has the adrenaline to load it. Meaning he is only about six seconds away from loading the gun because he already has a shell on his hand would probably take six seconds quotation marks to get the shell out of the rock and into his hands before loading the gun so cutting the really low time in half would make sense for almost every single auto reloading system so they could implement it on this tank and if it works they can implement it on every single auto reloading tank.
the most fun part was you guys stressing the time stamps for us😂. Whining worked. Never mind, I actually watch the entire videos of yours ANY TIME! (9 Nine! 9 NEIN! 9)🤣
It's like thye're trying to see how far they can get with as many loot box based noob proof tanks possible, there used to be weakspots and lack of armor balancing vehicles no premiums used to be WORSE than their tech tree counterpart and that was ok because premiums were marketed to skilled players who wanted crew trainers and credit makers. Next up autoloading 8 shot 240mm arty with Type 5 heavy armor pre buff on wheels
The best outro i have ever witnessed
2 bots above me
@@detroitsucks5222 hahaha yeah
New tank: *Is not a Soviet premium.*
Me: A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
Yes, that true
Have you heard the tragedy of Edvin of the Awsome. It's not something you would hear from the quickie babies. He reached such levels of rage he could sence when others would be hit by arty. Ironic he saved others but couldn't save himself.
Is it possible to learn this Power?
@@Tom_K not from an average wot player.
@@raderistic8456
-Is it possible to learn this power?
-not from standard ammo users.
Zwhatsh: The further into the magazine you go the longer it takes to reload the shell.
IS-3A: *clears throat*
Balanced!
Math: Exist
Also Zwhatsh: We don't know math.
What's math?
...
Math: Exits
@@AwesomeEpicGuys U were too lazy to do meth 'bout the tonk?
@@potat101 No we're just too stupid to do the math lol
19:35 when arta doesnt damage you but your driver dies from the jumpscares
Ramming the T 69 was the best moment of the month
Well, I guess the rationale behind the compensation mechanic is that heavies are usually more into the fight than mediums, CQC and all and it would be awkward to have monster reloads and punishment for basically shooting.
But in my mind...it's just making them more idiot proof, since low skill players gravitate towards heavies anyways...a decent player would just fire first shell only and the other two if there's a kill to secure or a good opportunity....exactly like mediums.
I agree with you, nobody is going to consciously use this mechanic.
However, I've seen that on the Supertest/TS the Rinoceronte had a "beep" sound when the grace period was available so maybe that would help a bit since a sound cue might be used as an unconscious reflex trigger.
My wallet be like : "Please, don't !"
Me: 😏
Bruh.
Bruh
Please don’t spend money on loot boxes. You’ll be far better off to keep donating to AEG on twitch instead so just continue with that man
My wallet: please no
Me: well it's a Wargaming product, so don't worry
Before you kill someone with Italian tonks you sat: Pasta la Vista!
Or Hasta la Pasta
Pasta la vista...
BABY
3:33 "Allmost normal sized" lmao xD
21:44 everytime i see a new tonk
"You can watch the section that are more important for you"
Me: *Watch the full video cuz we're all epic*
Bisonte C45 exists
me in my free 2 play is3 : "cry's in russian"
21:02 Zwhatsh nearly get rage
Zwatsh: We have time stamp here.
Me: What is time stamp?
*keeps watching*
( ͡ʘ ͜ʖ ͡ʘ)
@AwesomeEpicGuys
I understand why this tank feels OP or at least borderline OP for right now.
However, gun handling and DPM of this tank kinda downgrade it. Not so great pen on standart rounds make it BALANCED! for tier VIIIs
YET - we all know in tier X this tank with this accuraty and bad gold rounds is gonna struggle to hit weakspots of vehicles that are played correctly against it because then weakspots are the ONLY thing this will be able to penetrate frontally. Which will result either in HE spam, gold spam → less credits.
For example Super Conqueror, E5 wiggling turret, E100 hulldown or even 430U (which are meta tech tree obviously) are gonna be big sad for the C45 driver. Not even speaking of tanks like IS-4 or
ST-II, or other sidescrapers. As 270 HEAT which gets consumed by their tracks and screens and has absolute 0 shell normalization is gonna be simply more damage blocked for enemy. Which leaves the C45 driver with only few options:
1 - (Load clip of HE and detrack while do some damage - BTW good luck with this in era of buffed spall liners which are quite frequently used)
2 - (Rush and clip enemy tonk hoping for team support - excuse me what did you say Team WHAT? support ... in WoT 2020 ... yes please - it might work but not reliably and only in specific situations)
3 - (Retreat / find another target hoping for enemy to push and show weak spots like lower plate / maouver so that you can get some juicy side shots)
4 - (Stay where you are and get completely fucked by skycancer prem shells)
5 - (some other options depending on situation indeed as mobilty of C45 ain't bad for HT with such armor)
Tank definitely benefits from Screens all over it which makes it not paper for HEAT rounds, HE shells and even arty in some cases in which arty hits front of tank or splashes.
People playing against you did see C45 for first time, didn't know its weakspots ... so a lot more bounces occured compared to what it's gonna be after few months.
Armor is realiable on hulls upper plate and that's very big plus (Thanks WG in this one case).
You mentioned turret has no weakspots ... that turret weakspot without screens definitely ain't small and i think all of us will be surprised how many pens are gonna go in there. Even from standart rounds on tier X ... not mentioning 340 pen heats of most tier Xs and go straight trough the turret. This tank is gonna suffer a lot from era of prem ammo.
Note: Im not surprised that tier Xs can wreck some tier VIII ... neither im saying its wrong. I only tried to explain why this vehicle ain't as OP as it seems for now.
Conclusion from my side: Very good vehicle for tier VIII, with interesting new mechanic. Definitely not bad for some tier VIII skirms or especially also coz it's mobility ... C45 I think is most likely gonna be more than very good tank for Frontline → credit making, anything below tier VIII and even some tier VIII tanks with bad armor are going to be wrecked by it's HE if used properly, not even mentioning internal module damage.
Feel free to say what you feel different about, I like discussing WoT related stuff.
AEG & QB upload at almost the exact time? Now I have double the videos to watch
Question is, which one should I watch first :V
AEG, Quicky talks way too much.
Don't watch Quicky trash drama
Who watches QB in 2020? Honestly...
Finally another premium tank! That's what we all have been waiting for!
*Loads HE cause of this tank *
Hi Edvan and Zwhatsh
Good day.
First time i see a Skorpion trying to ram someone
at this point the game should be called " World of Make believed tanks"
Because we all want a game of far infinite shermas t54s an t34 because accuracy.
@SupremePrestige Problem imo is there are more made-up tanks than blueprint tanks in WoT
@SupremePrestige You're absolutely right, i started playing wot because i just wanted to see what a Jpz E100 would look like.
@SupremePrestige
Sherman
Jumbo sherman
Jumbo sherman
T-34
T-34-85
Pz IV
Pz IV H
Pz IV D
Pz III
Jpz 38t
And the list goes on...
We wouldn't even have tier 10, most of the high tier tanks would be either pershings or king tigers.
@@hoshyro so what? its a game. You want accuracy and realism join the army, they only have 1 tank.
19:25 so, nobody is gonna talk about the obj 703,, just feeling the landing"
Time to whip out my wallet again bois!!!
IT'S TIME!!
"Ohh are you compensating for something-?"
"SHUT UP ZWHATSH!!!"
Edivns wife: "You dont say, Zwhatsh..."
Ngl this is gonna be helpful to me because I’m that person that gets exited and accidentally fires .1 seconds before the next shell is loaded in
I love how the sigma was absolutely insane when this thing came out.
Hidden stats, boys.
Edvan recently 3-marked it. The requirements were higher than most tier 8 prems. Still a beast. Most people dislike it because of the lack of dpm and derpy gun handling. But those 2 factors are literally the only 2 holding the tank back.
@@AwesomeEpicGuys I agree, by the way, you did amazing on that replay with the tier 8 techtree heavy, i watched it on jingles. Is there a video on your channel about the replay? or was it off stream?
Hey! The battle was played off stream. So no video with live reaction or anything I'm afraid. :(
@@AwesomeEpicGuys :c
Bet edvan was screaming "WHAT IS THIS TEAM, CAN'T YOU SEE NORTH IS FALLING?" lol
30 minutes of pure COMPENSATION.
UUur I could taste that burp at the start
Did it taste well? Lol
AwesomeEpicGuys nope
You maybe can taste it but i can only SMELL it.... It smells real good!!
Lol
I LOVE THIS TYPE OF VIDEOS !!!!
Happy you like it!
@@AwesomeEpicGuys do the same type for for the next premium, for the next week i mean 😂
Bisonte C45: enters the chat
All other tier VIII tanks: left the chat
"The new Premium tank of the week"
Jesus fuck that's so painfully accurate at this point.
*Sobs into hands*
that t69 kill was the funniest thing I've seen in a while, the second would be the swarming at15s on ghost town for sure
That turret looks almost like a modern MBT turret
The turret has 2 spots with 250-270 mm armor effective while using gun depression, the cheeks right next to the gun and above the spaced armor right above the cheeks, as well as the horrible dpm
If they have a few tanks more than you they can push through your ridge and eat the 1k burst you deal, and take out your whole tank, and you won't be able to reload once. The tank seems good if you have teamates with you, but you have to be really close up due to bad accuracy and gun handling, making it easier for them to hit the turrets weaker areas
The turret is great on a ridgeline, but as soon as a tier 9 heavy loads gold, or a t8 td such as a skorpion hits the weaker areas of your turret with standard, or hits your turret frontally with gold, they are going right through
Next premium IS-3B which has reverse compensation mechanic the shorter you wait for the reload the more reload time you save
Why I don’t play World of Tanks in a nutshell. And of course, premium rounds.
lol that 703 xD (min 19:26) hahaha
I call this tank the "italian Abrams" because it has a close look to the Abrams
Fantastic Glorious Boys
It's a small Ariete, love it
I guess I'll hop back to WoT when the heavy line drops, been playing War Thunder for a week already
3:13 lol shut up swatch 😂😂 Edvan ur so mean 😂
4 person ram was a glorous thing! XD
that reminds me of the HESH pen of RU 251 like 102 or something with a 90mm gun back before it was yeeted up to tier 9
Awesome Epic intro 15 minutes after beginning of the video lol
I enjoy listening to these guys, like the banter and even the yelling. Nice video fellas!
I love the way You still havin fun with this game! Cheers!!
cheers!
Anyone else thinks that this tank looks like an abrams?
Yes!
Seems the turret as hard as Vacuum sealed Risotto that i usually buy in local Italian stores, nice content as always~
So, here is the deal you are forgetting that I HAVE run into trouble for with my progettos.
The audio for shell loading kicks in a bit ahead if the shell actually being ready.
This mechanic is going to save me so much trouble of that mismatch of audio cue and mechanic function and has basically resynchronized them, which for a heavy in a brawl is probably pretty good
Watching this to make my self better at the game lol
They never were so wrong about the fact that the Italian heavy line would be good thx to the mechanic
AEG: "WG please give us new tonk to rate, we will be praising it"
WG: "Ait"
AEG: "SIKE!"
Omg that ending xD
I clicked on QB's video and after 2 seconds I saw your clip in recomandation section.I clicked without thinking.
Time to dig out my t8 arty. It is this time of the year again ....
They should release the tech tree BEFORE the premiums when they have a new mechanic. That way we don't end up with premiums that are broken OP and can't be nerfed.
Pros: extremely strong hull down, clip potential
Cons: gun handling, low dpm.
Speed is average, ammo is average to decent pen, good velocity on standard ammo but slow heat.
Seems reasonably balanced for once but I guess time will tell, and it won't feel balanced if you're facing one hull down
I wonder if when you aim the gun up, the armor behind that is pennable?
It's easier to pen, but still very strong.
3:10 i have a feeling zwhatsh will one day become a dad only to make dad jokes on his children, and he will be too good at it that no one can stop him
Wallet chuckles under the pressure of maybe buying 50 loot boxes. Danger approaches.
Damn, guess it became AwesomeEpicQuickybabies during the first part of the video.
its so cool the time thingy (the time parts)
The final ram kill reminded me of the young blonde girl on a sofa meme.
Awesome epic burp Zwhatsh .Thats a push that your family should be proud of lol.
Thanks, lol
Zoom forward and miss all the comedic value guys? Not a chance! Carry on boys
Use the name fantastic awesome boys when there's a guest in your platoon
You can shoot the at 15 and the a version in the gun slide with average gun and it’s a pin almost every time
burped so hard he smelled it at his house
I wouldn't be awesome and epic if I didn't watch the whole video
That T69 had the small gun. F
13:37 this aged well, looking back at this vid I'm just like
*Caliban: Let me introduce myself*
Oh yeee!!!!
Frontal turret has two little stripes without spaced armor. This stripes are the weakspots
We showed this in the video. However. They are more less armored spots than weak spots.
English second language, not good at writing it. So I used the speak to text on iPhone. My accent made it hard to understand. But you’ll get the general idea.
My thoughts on the new account it would be that the loader would have the shell in his hand in the closer you are to the grace. The closer he is realistically to having that showing the container. However if you fire the gun the loader would have to be clear because the in container for all the reloader as well as the wholesome before the gun rotates back which would kill the loader. So the loader hast to get all the way which would mean he already has a shell in his hand which he doesn’t have to get all the rack he already is ready to load it and has the adrenaline to load it. Meaning he is only about six seconds away from loading the gun because he already has a shell on his hand would probably take six seconds quotation marks to get the shell out of the rock and into his hands before loading the gun so cutting the really low time in half would make sense for almost every single auto reloading system so they could implement it on this tank and if it works they can implement it on every single auto reloading tank.
I actually checked tanks.gg for the cupolas. They aren't weak spots at all, they are optics on the roof litterally, so no cupolas to aim
Skipping the talking is not why we tune in. lol Good review. tanks :)
Thanks for watching! :)
I want this tank. Shame it wasn't in the shop yet.
Obj703 was sold mid August after the boxes. Might be similar with the Bisonte.
I'm gonna make a push to call them gamble boxes like they are imo. U think so, too?
Unfortunately....
correct if i'm wrong but does this thing not look like a baby version of the xm-1
Your italian is perfect, you can actually eat pasta with me if you want
Mamma mia!
Thicc pasta? ;)
@@AwesomeEpicGuys thicc hull down maccheroni turret
Shrek: So that much be the New Italian Heavy Tank🇮🇹
Do You think he’s Compensating for something.
If you had a choice. Would you play this Italian heavy tank or the Fiat 2000 (if WOT ever had this in the game)?
Is it a christmas loot box release like the Obj 703 II and e75ts last year?
Probably.
17:58 I was really going to swear over there like wtf? LOL
Who would not love to listen to you guys talk , that is the reason i watch your videos.
Can't wait to get my hands on it!!!! Looooksss so fine eee!!!!!
Well i said it only now but the charioteer that is a tech tree t8 has 210 pen on he for 480 for 3.4k dpm
Can we have an F for BruhMeh in the shit barn
F
F
Bruh.
I just buy bisonte on shop last month.well i like it😂
Thanks for description stuff but I'll watch whole video anyway
the most fun part was you guys stressing the time stamps for us😂. Whining worked. Never mind, I actually watch the entire videos of yours ANY TIME! (9 Nine! 9 NEIN! 9)🤣
We have actually provided timestamps for a long time. Just never pointed it out in the video :)
@@AwesomeEpicGuys We always appreciated it, your content is always quality entertainment👍
Great video!😘👍
Thanks! ;)
can this thing angle or it has only frontal armor like Liberté has
Ha, Zwhatsh said "shituation"
The tank looks a lot like the XM1 General Motors
Next week: New tier 8 “premium” British TD with an autoloader.
No, really, they are also releasing an autoloading tier 8 British TD.
It's like thye're trying to see how far they can get with as many loot box based noob proof tanks possible, there used to be weakspots and lack of armor balancing vehicles no premiums used to be WORSE than their tech tree counterpart and that was ok because premiums were marketed to skilled players who wanted crew trainers and credit makers. Next up autoloading 8 shot 240mm arty with Type 5 heavy armor pre buff on wheels
So this tank has preferential mm?
Hahah yea guys are so funny, keep it up guys!
Happy you enjoy our crappy content :)
Edvin, do you think they are gonna add Fiat 2000 with the new Pasta Heavy Tonks?
We can only hope! 🙏 As it's the only "real" italian heavy tank though it feels wrong not to add it!
Geometry dash misic in the background
Love it xd
Look in tier 8 the obj 279 is defender and the chieftan is bisonte