8:34 Everyone's reaction when getting slammed by arty! Most annoying thing to happen when you playing the game and having a good brawl and arty has to ruin it by sitting in the back and wanking off. If this tank had A SHOVEL or CHICKEN COOP fence wiring on it maybe you wouldn't have taken so much damage. Honestly I don't know how you guys can play this game as living as playing this game for fun for me after 30 minutes I wanna throw it out the window!
We do not do this for a living though. Edvin has a full time job and Zwhatsh is a full time student. WoT content creation is only a hobby. We would need to make about 10 times as much money of our content to make a living.
so youre saying that when you have 2 122 TMs that has no equipment on its like having the dpm of 1 isu 152k? its like wg made a character and put all points into toughness
11:51 Here’s what happened: Now I don’t know the armor stats of the Strv S1, but he pulled up right as Edvin was about to shoot. With that steep of a front and the increased ricochet chance of APCR, 9/10, it’s gonna bounce. You might have realized it now Edvin, but if not, this is why it bounced.
When you see the tanks in the Japanese tech tree and those tanks were enough to basically dominate the armored battle in the Asian theater.... Well that's how none-existant the Chinese tanks have been in WW2 🤣
The track section on the S1 is counted as armor, I believe 60mm, which would have auto bounced your shot at that angle.. I've had the occasional bounce on my S1 on that.
nonhistorical camo wont remove 3D styles, i already reported that to WG, when they did is-7,e100,bat camo and they replied, sorry, 3D are considered historical
This seems like the most frustrating type of machine - it's JUST on the cusp of being a GOOD tank, but it's lacking in too many areas. Not fast enough to be a flanker or rammer, the lauded Alpha seems to be an outright lie... Unless you're a person with a 'gotta catch 'em all' sort of mentality, I don't know why you would bother.
50% discount is the same (full) price you'll pay for the same tank in a few months when it's just released into the premium shop anyway, just like every other event tank they've had so far...
Keep in mind, this thing has THE STRONGEST turret(if you ignore 2 kupolas) in the Tier 8 of every single tank currently in the game.....280mm btw on a MEDIUM tank turret which is super nicely angeled....No other Tier 8 medium tank, premium or tech tree has a stronger turret....Well, only T29 but he is Tier 7 but is a heavy tank, this is a medium....
What I fail to understand is that despite the aweful reload & mobility, the ace & MoE requirement is sky high. People have managed to make this thing work
Honestly they should buff 2 of 3 things: the reload, the engine power and along with the turret armor in general(or shrinking the cupolas as well as maybe deleting one of them so that you can actually do something)
As long as you don't need the DPM it is fine. The second it is a DPM battle you are toast. Hull down and hold a ridge. Fine. Stay behind a bend and fire every reload. Fine. Circle a slow tank faster then it's gun can turn. Fine. Everything else loses every time.
How's the mobility? Those T-40-odd and 50-odd type tanks seem to be pretty mobile. Maybe play it as a hit and run vehicle? Pop out, take a shot, back off and come from a different direction while reloading
Sniper with a strong turret? Except the Cent 5/1 has better gun handling, 500 more dpm, only 7 less pen, -10 gun depression, better power to weight, better terrain resistances, better reverse speed and 400 base view range.
The 2d camo you earn/buy in the marathon can be applied to any tank in the game. The 3d style that you can earn by doing missions in the 122tm can only be applied to the 122tm. Same style that we use in the gameplay.
The previous video we were literally ramming tanks to death left right center. Biggest collection of memes on youtube lol. And now we are tryharding because we dont do something really silly and dumb for one video. This tank has no meme potential. It's just bad and boring. We can't force humor.
it really works well for me..only dpm sucks. mobility is meh but thats okay for that kinda armor. Had alot of bounces on my commander hatches also on t7/8 :) its a shiny lil special ricecorn
He most likely had a repair kit as I was the only tank so far to have dealt damage to him. So I did not want to risk a tracking shot with this brutal reload. Tracks tend to absorb shells. And even with a tracking shot he would still have almost 14 seconds to repair and turn his gun. I just wanted to be sure my last shell connected. But I see your point.
@@AwesomeEpicGuys Wasn't even thinking about tracking. Quick auto aim shot and then go around him to either escape behind the corner or try to circle/side hug him. I'm not claiming that I would do any better in the heat of battle though.
When you look at the newer tanks, Italian heavy-line and now this one, maybe WG wants to lower the DPM of all tanks in the future to get rid of the turbo-games we have these days? I was just thinking. But then the previously released GSOR tiddi doesn't make sense. Ah well, keep on gaming 😂👍
GSOR also has bad dpm, it just has a powerful clip. But yeah, they seems to do cripple the dpm of new tanks so much to reduce turbo games. I'd like for them to buff this to at least base 1800 DPM. That would still make it the/one of the lowest dpm tier 8 tank but at least it's not comically bad anymore.
13 seconds isn’t bad..........if you have 600+ alpha. It’s dpm is 1430 which is literally tier 3 dpm. It has worse dpm than every tier 4 medium tank in the game apart from 2.
@@rayaneerrjali7846 pen and turret armour, ok. Let’s compare it to the previous marathon tank (Obj.274a) If we compare just the guns (no equipment, no crew). The 274 has 2133 dpm and the TM has 1371. The 274 has 227 pen and the TM has 233. So you’re trading 762 dpm for 6mm of pen. Is that worth it to you? When it comes to turret armour the effective values are pretty much the same (about 290-325mm depending on angle and location). However the TM’s cupolas are literally 3x taller.
Wow, this tank is like a draugen lancen c from console, but much more slow, with worst reload, no concealment, and only 10 more alpha, at least it have more reliable penetration with 233 standard and 299 premium
10:30 - You forget Edvin, it's Chinese. It doesn't get the Stalin-bonus, and Mao is too busy with his Cultural Revolution and Great Leaps to help.... Edit: So, my opinion on the tank based on the video. It's Chinese early MBT, so WG says it's a Medium, because Da Ivan, more vodka! All in all, it seems it's mediocre in most categories, but the gun is the death knell for it. What WG should have done, is give it the old 390 alpha (why it has that awkward 400 US 120mm alpha, I don't know), drop the pen to 221 and reload to about 13-14 sec base (still being slower than on the T-34-3, but it gets APCR and better pen, so you know), and I think it would be fine. Not great, not OP, but fine. The way it is now, not going to waste my time, effort, and blood pressure to try and do an impossible grind for it, nor am I going to waste money on it. Plus, it's going to be in the next Xmas boxes anyway, guaranteed, so whatever.
"It's gonna hurt like a non-lubed cooked cucumber"
Edvin may I ask you how do you know that it hurts? XD
do you think it doesnt hurt?
@@schmirgelt Well you never know - with enough practice, it might just slide in easily
We at AEG have plenty of experience in this field.
@@AwesomeEpicGuys *Dials 91 fucking 1*
@@AwesomeEpicGuys play at2 with derp gun
i just realized you guys have actual microphones now. I like to see it!
No now edvan isnt earape anymore
@@danyelll7237 Lol didn't you see the Ensk game? :D
WTH. I just saw Zwatsch walk past me at the train station in Örebro?! He had a twitch partner rucksack and looked exactly like him!
b r u h
That was Zwhatsh. Why didn't you say hello? Lol
@@AwesomeEpicGuys I sat in a car and realized it was Zwatsch when it was too late :(
RIP
@@AwesomeEpicGuys how often do you two get noticed in public?
14:39 he predicted the BZ176
Edvin : Nice chat, you have done your homework.
Me *who has 122+ assignments left* : YES
8:34 Everyone's reaction when getting slammed by arty! Most annoying thing to happen when you playing the game and having a good brawl and arty has to ruin it by sitting in the back and wanking off. If this tank had A SHOVEL or CHICKEN COOP fence wiring on it maybe you wouldn't have taken so much damage. Honestly I don't know how you guys can play this game as living as playing this game for fun for me after 30 minutes I wanna throw it out the window!
We do not do this for a living though. Edvin has a full time job and Zwhatsh is a full time student. WoT content creation is only a hobby. We would need to make about 10 times as much money of our content to make a living.
Here so early there is still 'rise' instead of 'rice' in the title.
That's what 3 hours of sleep does to your brain. Thanks for pointing it out!
@@AwesomeEpicGuys you guys sleep?
Sometimes.
@@AwesomeEpicGuys I often sleep only 1 hour. Do not recommend it
so youre saying that when you have 2 122 TMs that has no equipment on its like having the dpm of 1 isu 152k? its like wg made a character and put all points into toughness
not dpm, only reload time
@@Filipcorobivblenderi Are you dumb or just stupid?
Ah, glorious, this will make a fine addition to the next Edvin Rage Compilation ;)
Oh no
DPM is overrated anyway
*drives off in a Manticore*
And the wz-114 x)
Edvin's ricochet off the Udes 03 was worth the entry ticket alone
35 minutes of zwatsh losing his loader
Just wait he's reloading xD
11:51
Here’s what happened: Now I don’t know the armor stats of the Strv S1, but he pulled up right as Edvin was about to shoot. With that steep of a front and the increased ricochet chance of APCR, 9/10, it’s gonna bounce. You might have realized it now Edvin, but if not, this is why it bounced.
*This tank perfectly represents the Chinese tech tree, they try to copy the soviets but just don't quite get there*
When you see the tanks in the Japanese tech tree and those tanks were enough to basically dominate the armored battle in the Asian theater.... Well that's how none-existant the Chinese tanks have been in WW2 🤣
only one chinese tank is playable IN the game, the wz111 5a
I bet Chinese tanks perform a lot better IRL than Russian tanks do these days in Ukraine...
With "This style feels like WoT Blitz" is very accurate
The track section on the S1 is counted as armor, I believe 60mm, which would have auto bounced your shot at that angle.. I've had the occasional bounce on my S1 on that.
17:14. Yey, that's me LUL
they should have just given it 200 more dpm. This seems like a pain. Imagine going full f2p set up on this tank. That would hurt.
Just wait for T-34-3 buffs then compare. This tank is straight up idiot bait.
Both tanks shoot dumpling and sometimes tofu in a nutshell.
@@hirokjyotideka5571 Just wait for T-34-2 buffs then compare.
14:30 someone at Wargaming listened.
That 3D style is probably the thing that pushes me to remove non-historical camo
We think many feel the same. This 3d style is a bit too much.
nonhistorical camo wont remove 3D styles, i already reported that to WG, when they did is-7,e100,bat camo and they replied, sorry, 3D are considered historical
This seems like the most frustrating type of machine - it's JUST on the cusp of being a GOOD tank, but it's lacking in too many areas. Not fast enough to be a flanker or rammer, the lauded Alpha seems to be an outright lie... Unless you're a person with a 'gotta catch 'em all' sort of mentality, I don't know why you would bother.
I like it. It is very good at brawling and it's base pen is amazing. It's also very insanely accurate for a 122.
This tank is in fact way better with standard round , the premium one are worst ( but onely usefull on t10 , taking 5 or 3 of them is enouth )
3:36 Damn Zwatch rocking that smooth ASMR voice
50% discount is the same (full) price you'll pay for the same tank in a few months when it's just released into the premium shop anyway, just like every other event tank they've had so far...
Keep in mind, this thing has THE STRONGEST turret(if you ignore 2 kupolas) in the Tier 8 of every single tank currently in the game.....280mm btw on a MEDIUM tank turret which is super nicely angeled....No other Tier 8 medium tank, premium or tech tree has a stronger turret....Well, only T29 but he is Tier 7 but is a heavy tank, this is a medium....
The reload of this tanks is so bad so u have to cut the clip until you reload again :)))
15:20 "you hit him for 400 and then you die" no Edvan, you hit him for 308 😂
Damn Zwhatsh is raging the whole video you can hear him calmly rage
The 122 tm is one of the best tier 8s so yeah. When i played it, i felt competitive as fuck and smashing tier 10
I'm just playing my T 34 3 and bullying these things lol
The CHAD 34-3 vs TM Virgin 122
Make a video of that. Does the T-34-3 has enough pen for the 122TM front with AP? I don't think so.
and 34-3 is getting buffed soon too xD
@@steffent.6477 preferential MM bro
@@megamagner9463 I know and have that tank. I just don't think his AP could deal with the 122TM front plate.
This tank made me grind the most in my life for commitment. I only got 3 hours of sleep D: and got it
11:15 who is capping your base? All reds are well outside the capture zone
What I fail to understand is that despite the aweful reload & mobility, the ace & MoE requirement is sky high.
People have managed to make this thing work
Honestly they should buff 2 of 3 things: the reload, the engine power and along with the turret armor in general(or shrinking the cupolas as well as maybe deleting one of them so that you can actually do something)
I give up my never nor my can stand this and I don't have enough time to complete this marathon. I'll just rest and recover on the holidays.
As long as you don't need the DPM it is fine. The second it is a DPM battle you are toast.
Hull down and hold a ridge. Fine.
Stay behind a bend and fire every reload. Fine.
Circle a slow tank faster then it's gun can turn. Fine.
Everything else loses every time.
Fun fact: the 2 things next to the gun are places for ATGM’s but wargaming doesn’t want to implement ATGM’s because they’d be “unbalanced”
Happy Cucumber Day Guys
Seems like its designed to be a sniping support tank, not a brawling medium, would play well with TDs
Yes. But in that case you might as well just play an actual TD that performs the TD role even better lol.
@@AwesomeEpicGuys I know im just trying to talk myself into buying it, the Chinese tanks are my favorite after all...
@@lordfrostdraken Then go for as high of a discount as possible :) You can buy a tank even if it's trash haha :D
@@AwesomeEpicGuys Proud owner of the ELC even 90 too, man that tank sucks but i have so much fun in it.
When your mom sees your grades after the exam:
(Zwhatsh 12:16)
is it me or loader in your tank dies more often than radioman on kv-5?
We got the same impression.
I agree this tank have the stats for a very decent frontliner... but to hold a position and not push a position.
That laugh at the beginning at 2:30 sounds like edvans just finished crying and his mate told him a somewhat funny joke R U OK edvan?
Been waiting for T8 premium for so long
From someone who did the grind for the Renegade, never again will I do that level of grind again
Renegade is godlike compared to the 122tm though. Worth!
You need dpm when a chokepoint suddenly breaks and things start pouring through it..
when edvine said "blitz". in my head, i thought the gonna go back to blitz. but then i realized they cant. sad
Why can't they? No promo acc anymore?
@@steffent.6477 the borrowed cc accounts for a certain amount of time. idk if they can ask for it again or no
DezGaez says hi. You have been Dez BOMBED!!
"rages at missed/bounced shot"
Me: well if you didn't drive the tank before you shot and....
Wg: Here's our new tier 8 Chinese premium medium tank with 400 alpha and a lot of armor, it has 360 alpha and no relative armor.
12:12 poor Zwhatsh that face X'D
You can add decals to camo but not always to 2-D styles.
How's the mobility? Those T-40-odd and 50-odd type tanks seem to be pretty mobile. Maybe play it as a hit and run vehicle? Pop out, take a shot, back off and come from a different direction while reloading
Edvin : not pen a side of a tank
Edvin : *inhale* HOW THAT'S NOT PEN
30:06 oh you are an arty now
Thanks for the honest review about what is obviously abysmal about this tank. If it were Russian the dpm would be at least 2 hundred higher.
I was thinking about doing the mission marathon but i saw the DPM xD
10:34 Correction: Non lubed cucumber with teeth*
So it's a MT version of American T 34 Heavy Tank. Strong turrets, powerful high pen guns but tragic DPM.
EdvinE20 you need to put the vents in the right spot man, you can get more out of the tank
Bounty equipment does not benefit from the slot.
@@AwesomeEpicGuys oof
122 TM: 59-Patton's reborn
can I just say the part with the High Alpha medium got nuked by arty in the first segment of gameplay... that's why I play Blitz...
Sniper with a strong turret?
Except the Cent 5/1 has better gun handling, 500 more dpm, only 7 less pen, -10 gun depression, better power to weight, better terrain resistances, better reverse speed and 400 base view range.
I was actually afraid that it is going to be op but not anymore lol
this title is even better than "thick pasta!?"
Here’s another Dezbomb from DezGamez, keep up the great content
Damn he looks good...
Zwhatsh, that is.
Do you think wg will buff dpm sometime in future?
i acctualy love this tank, but you have to find a right playstyle for you and the tank itself
AEG, wait you CAN use this camo for any tank? I thought it said a special style for the 122 TM? Help
The 2d camo you earn/buy in the marathon can be applied to any tank in the game. The 3d style that you can earn by doing missions in the 122tm can only be applied to the 122tm. Same style that we use in the gameplay.
@@AwesomeEpicGuys ok thanx
Nice Sonic the hedgehog cosplay Edvin.
Thanks!
112 TM gun feels like Guard stunned..
Well this tank Has loader in one of the cupola so thats why All of the dead loader.
Oh! 400 alpha dmg!
Keep rolling under 360 average dmg.
But in rusky tanks you can get consistent rolls of 500.
Edvan has changed so much he used to be a huge memer but now he is a tryhard who rages so much. but atleast he doesn’t rage for no reason
The previous video we were literally ramming tanks to death left right center. Biggest collection of memes on youtube lol. And now we are tryharding because we dont do something really silly and dumb for one video. This tank has no meme potential. It's just bad and boring. We can't force humor.
DezNation say hello ❤️👋👋
it really works well for me..only dpm sucks. mobility is meh but thats okay for that kinda armor. Had alot of bounces on my commander hatches also on t7/8 :) its a shiny lil special ricecorn
Play this tank at 50% crew, I dare ya.
Hello from Deznation!!!
21:50 SU doesn't have a turret lol
You could've owned him
He most likely had a repair kit as I was the only tank so far to have dealt damage to him. So I did not want to risk a tracking shot with this brutal reload. Tracks tend to absorb shells. And even with a tracking shot he would still have almost 14 seconds to repair and turn his gun. I just wanted to be sure my last shell connected. But I see your point.
@@AwesomeEpicGuys Wasn't even thinking about tracking. Quick auto aim shot and then go around him to either escape behind the corner or try to circle/side hug him. I'm not claiming that I would do any better in the heat of battle though.
Yesterday in my UDES 03 I rolled for 292... the lowest possible.. I have 390 average damage
how does it compare to a 274a?
keep up the good work
They are different. But the 274a is a bit better imo. It's russian lol.
YESSS A TIER 8 PREMIUM TONK
Finally!
My very first completed marathon... Now I need therapy
well done
Will you ever return to Warthunder or Crossout?
You never know ;)
we need the super coffee now(super chaffee)
When you have so many tanks that you fergot you had some
I recognize the Geometry Dash music on 27:45 ! (Fingerdash)
27:21 Fingerdash song from Geometry Dash lol
If you act like it's a 320 alpha gun, you'd think it does some nice high rolls...
When you look at the newer tanks, Italian heavy-line and now this one, maybe WG wants to lower the DPM of all tanks in the future to get rid of the turbo-games we have these days? I was just thinking. But then the previously released GSOR tiddi doesn't make sense. Ah well, keep on gaming 😂👍
GSOR also has bad dpm, it just has a powerful clip. But yeah, they seems to do cripple the dpm of new tanks so much to reduce turbo games.
I'd like for them to buff this to at least base 1800 DPM. That would still make it the/one of the lowest dpm tier 8 tank but at least it's not comically bad anymore.
13 sec is not bad also in blitz they have ox t34 xd
13 seconds isn’t bad..........if you have 600+ alpha.
It’s dpm is 1430 which is literally tier 3 dpm. It has worse dpm than every tier 4 medium tank in the game apart from 2.
@@jk844100 oh but the tank sacrifice dpm for pen and turret armor
@@rayaneerrjali7846 pen and turret armour, ok. Let’s compare it to the previous marathon tank (Obj.274a)
If we compare just the guns (no equipment, no crew). The 274 has 2133 dpm and the TM has 1371. The 274 has 227 pen and the TM has 233.
So you’re trading 762 dpm for 6mm of pen. Is that worth it to you?
When it comes to turret armour the effective values are pretty much the same (about 290-325mm depending on angle and location). However the TM’s cupolas are literally 3x taller.
@@jk844100 to be honest i dont like Chinese tank there a rip off
Also why did u spend 5 minutes on comment
It feels like you are reloading your magazine ( I hope I spelled it correctly)
Rhino:Shitty DPM.
China new tank:Muhahahaha!
This needs 440 alpha
Or 490 ;)
Wow, this tank is like a draugen lancen c from console, but much more slow, with worst reload, no concealment, and only 10 more alpha, at least it have more reliable penetration with 233 standard and 299 premium
10:30 - You forget Edvin, it's Chinese. It doesn't get the Stalin-bonus, and Mao is too busy with his Cultural Revolution and Great Leaps to help....
Edit: So, my opinion on the tank based on the video. It's Chinese early MBT, so WG says it's a Medium, because Da Ivan, more vodka! All in all, it seems it's mediocre in most categories, but the gun is the death knell for it. What WG should have done, is give it the old 390 alpha (why it has that awkward 400 US 120mm alpha, I don't know), drop the pen to 221 and reload to about 13-14 sec base (still being slower than on the T-34-3, but it gets APCR and better pen, so you know), and I think it would be fine. Not great, not OP, but fine. The way it is now, not going to waste my time, effort, and blood pressure to try and do an impossible grind for it, nor am I going to waste money on it. Plus, it's going to be in the next Xmas boxes anyway, guaranteed, so whatever.
At last a tank who existed
I feel like this thing is a Chinese version of the American t34 heavy tank. The dpm and armor are just bad.
11:52 wut wat wat?