You know what Pauline, Im from the south coast of NSW , I work in a Cafe and we have Muslim Men and Women come in for a coffee or food, everyone is happy there is no separation, everyone is interested having a chat . talking about how great it is on the south coast, where are you from cool , that's great.. being kind to each other goes along way, being human.
if the 'Muslim' people you speak to read the Quran seriously and believe what they read, they are dangerous to western society. That is a fact . However I feel a lot of people who are born in today's generation in a Muslim family, like to label themselves as Muslims but don't actually know or believe what is in the Quran. That is the same with any other religion I believe .
So if that is the case, is it not fair to say that it's probably not been a problem for a while? Yet today we can find cases of violence against women and non-Muslims every day. Take a look at thereligionofpeace.com. At the time of writing this, there have been 32,444 Islamic terror attacks around the world since 9/11 alone. In 2016, a report came out that in the UK, a new case of FGM is found every 109 minutes. Here in the US, we have just had a case in Michigan with FGM. We have also had honour killings, and I'm sure you've heard of the Orlando and San Bernadino shootings, which were terror attacks. We've many others. I would just as soon arrive at the same conclusions as you, but I see too much evidence to the contrary. Jihadwatch.org is a site that documents all the terror in the world (and more). It is updated frequently. Please take a look at it. I think you will find it enlightening. Both the sites I mention here show the nature and magnitude of the threat.
Pauline, look at Indonesia, your next door neighbor country. That's a democratic country with the largest muslim population in the world. Ideology and religion is absolutely different.
Thony kind u need to do some research dude, isn't always islam. If Christians do the bombing or some other terrorist stuff u won't call them terrorist, u will only say it's criminal or maybe u will call them terrorist but u won't judge them by their religion. As simple as that dude. And if u judge islam is terrorists just by bomb bali or other shit, then you must be lack of knowledge :).
She definitely wronged about non of islam countries doesn’t have democratic rules... Malaysia is a democratic country and Malaysia is also a islam country...
Any religion that is enforced by its government and it implies that all citizens has to follow its muslims laws whether your muslim or not. So that said muslim religion is a ideology.
She is incorrect. If western system separate religion from state, then why is there a holiday on christmas day and easter and not for other religions? There should be holiday on other religious events as well just like in India where there is equal representation of all religions. If not, then there is a big flaw and from this rises ultra nationalists like pauline.
At the end of the day Australians don't need to justify their way of life to muslims. If muslims are unhappy in Australia they're free to return home. Don't come into Australia and tell us how to live and what to accept. Imagine an Australian in Iraq, Afghanistan or other muslim country telling muslims to accept his way of life. His head would probably be cut off and kicked down the street. Australians are getting sick of muslim demands.
'Pauline Hanson doesn't believe Islam is a religion and doesn't accept Indonesia is a democracy.' That is not quite what she says. In any case, it is not Pauline Hanson who should be subjected to a trial by TV like this. It is the Muslims in the studio who should be asked to explain what kind of country they would like Australia to be in the future - all women covering up like them, polygamy, sharia law, limbs being amputated as judicial punishments, girls being married at 9 years old?
And all of that islamophobic bullshit you said at the end just show's how low your understanding of muslims and that's not what we wan't. we just wan't peace no harm to muslims no prejudice no rules againt's us just RESPECT, yet somehow you mofos think that's somehow going to lead to shariaa law bieng implemented in australia but that's just because you simply have no basic idea how that law even work's, you can't put shariaa in a non islamic country (a country were not most people living there are muslims) yet you still wan't to be islamophobic instead of just simply respecting muslims as humans without lumping them with horrible people.
***** keep your left-wing bullshit to yourself. you don't care about aussie values, culture and history. this is not your country and it never will be, go back where you came from. you only care about your own ethnic politics.
Pauline's impetus for her political career has, from day 1, been about fear mongering race and religion. She has nothing else to offer but will conveniently try to gaslight people into thinking otherwise. A highly manipulative individual
Thank you Pauline Hanson for defending Aussie culture & values. Many in the West are not on board with Islamic 7th century iron age morality. Such pearls of wisdom as killing Homosexuals, GM genital mutilations of girls, Pedophilia, honour killings, forced marriage, amputations, killing Apostates, death for Blasphemy, stoning for adultery, & my favorite, Sharia Law. Historians will judge you kindly for defending Humanity, there are many who criticize White Theocracy but silent when real courage is required.
What about christianity in the east pauline? What about christianity in Russia? Isnt it an ideology when these eastern christians prevent the democratic right of the people in Russia to be homosexual? Why does christianity interfere with the state's decisions in russia pauline, is it an ideology? How about the crusades? Why did they fight in the name of christianity? Shouldn't christianity if it is not an ideology, remain inside the church? The points you make are wrong. When you say that only islam interferes with democracy and judaism and christianity do not interefere with democracy this is wrong. Do the ten commandments agree with democracy? How about all the rules and rituals and commands given in the torah and the bible? Why do democratic people need kosher food? If judaism and christianity are not ideologies and promote democracy, then they should not have any commands or ways of life prescribed. They should let people live ANYWAY they want. Why does christianity require you to believe in jesus to be saved from hell. If you dont accept jesus, you are said to burn in hell. Is this democracy? The point that you should be making is, all 3 religions, Judaism, christianity and Islam are ideologies. However, when the modern world evolved, christians and jews were comfortable to embrace secular views and confine their religion only to the places of worship. Muslims are more devoted to their faith and will not let secular ideas to change the message of the One true god- Allah.
Indonesia is a rare case, it is moslem ,but we would have to ask those that have converted to Christianity how they are treated or feel in their own country , if they are shunned or segregated , I don't know any, so I cant say .we know islam originated in medina ,through muhammed and spread throughout the middle east ,even up to turkey ,but turkey is somewhat liberal in its ideas ,almost secular ,and that is why we have just seen an attempted military coup , because isis doesn't believe that turkey has a pure form of islam , it sees the government as being puppets of the west , Italy doesn't recognize islam as a religion and therefore doesn't grant it any tax breaks , its teachings and philosophies are violent and it hides behind decent people that obviously haven't analysed its teaching ,probably just grew up believing in it ,or maybe converted to it not really questioning it ,and of course if you were born in an Islamic country then you gotta be one .
Ever heard of the KKK? Terrorism from Islam is actually quite small once you compare it to the terrorism Christianity has caused. It isn't however talked about as much and is brushed off regularly.
Look at our country Indonesia, we are different religions, we are different tribes, and trust. but we can live in love each other .. side by side. and we did not think about it. all we know is Peace is beautiful
By the way, Indonesia is a democracy country. Just because Indo had more muslims than non-muslims, doesnt mean its Islamic Country. Islamic/Muslim country can only labeled to a country under Sharia/Islamic Law, such as Saudi Arabia. And one who say islam is against democracy, they should read Fiqh Law, cause they probably knows Islam only from media, and read the quran without tafseer(The meaning of Qur'an which representing general meaning per word)
Some day some time and some place Musilms will need to face the absolute true fact their Prophei was an actual real life tribal gangster warlord. HE did unspeakable things. And COMANDED his followers the same things.
The cunning muslim woman ask for "more important issues" to deviate the main and central discussion: It's Islam-muslims a political ideology? The easy answer for that question is YES, based in the quran, haddiths, sharia. That muslim woman detour, deviate, circumvent that and other issues about muslims with TAQIYYA-TAWRIYAH.
cristian country? are you kidding me! country consist of public, its their choice for their faith not you. you say islam rude, did yours perfectly good?
Shoaib Khan Poland 96.5% Catholic, Russia 83% Apostolic Orthodox and growing. Hungary, Slovakia, Czechia. Lepanto 1571AD and Vienna September 11, 1683AD has not disappeared from our memories nor from New Yorkers.
David Marler, I'm not taking sides with Pauline Hanson, (for various reasons) however, you saying that she doesn't believe Islam is a religion, and that she doesn't accept Indonesia to be a democracy, is a false statement. It is a fact that Islam is one of the monotheistic religions, as well as being an ideology. Hanson is well aware that Islam is a religion, she is just not focusing on the religious, but the ideological aspect of Islam. I think it is her right to do so, considering that so much harm is done in the name of Islam, not only in Australia, but worldwide. When it comes to Indonesia, well it has quite a complex history, but since independence, it was mainly ruled under a military dictatorship. Some kind of semblance of democracy is fairly recent, and I don't think one can compare this so called democracy in Indonesia, to democratic systems in the western world. I'm not making a value statement, it is just that a concept like a democracy, takes time to evolve in the consciousness of people.
Exodus 23:9 Do not oppress a foreigner; you yourselves know how it feels to be foreigners, because you were foreigners in Egypt. Hebrews 13:2 Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it. Mark 12:31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself. There is no commandment greater than these.
Yeah, she say islam not democracy Then how abu bakr be the leader of islam after muhammad die, when even muhammad never choose anyone as the next leader
Islam, Judaism and Christianity all stem from the Abraham-ic faith... The smartest argument, counter argument to stem from a Muslim mind. The answer is, they don't.
What about the terrorist behavior of non-Muslims towards Muslims, why did we not consider the religion of these people as terrorist? What about world wars and massacres, why do we not consider the religion of those who participated in it as a terrorist? Or does the issue only apply to Muslims? Why all this hatred for Muslims?
If we look at Poland we will see Christianity united with the state, the church is not separate from the state. In Polish churches priests don't preach the Word of God, instead a Far-Right IDEOLOGY from the ruling party. I am a catholic and I can tell you that, at least in Poland, the Catholic Church is not separate from the state. Even the most christian parties like PSL and Poland 2050 support a split from the church and the state.
There are many countries which will not allow non Muslims to hold government positions (Pakistan). Why can't Australia ban non Christians from holding government positions.
Dear Ms. Pauline Hanson, our country (your beloved neighbor here, who once spied by your gov) is indeed Islamic and a Democratic country. We also elected some non-muslims leaders on our regional provinces thru conventional non sharia election. No wonder people like you always underestimate us, you yourself have no idea who your neighbor is. Dont let ur hatred against one faith makes you adjust stupid arguments with bullshits just like what u did.
India had hundreds of years trying to have Muslims and other religions live in peace. Finally Gandhi gave up and created Pakistan for the Muslims as they were fighting with all other religions. Why does some people in Western countries think they can avoid the same infighting and bloodshed India experienced with a large Muslin population for hundreds of years? The Koran teaches good Muslims to live apart from non Muslims and not to befriend them. That is why there will always be 2 nations within on nation where you have a Muslim majority. There IS NO integration . The Koran teaches against this.
Burqua is not a piece of religious attire its a piece or legal attire its called sharia law not sharia religion, the muslim fundalmentaists who practice sharia law are not practising a religion they are practising a legal code that overrides our national laws and degrades women and treats them as second class citizens. That is acceptable? No. I have no problem with the headscarf, I have no problem with Allah. I have a problem with extremist fundamentalists of all religions who take their religion as law not as a guide, religion is not law it is a guide on how to live a better more fullfilled life of body mind and spirit/soul/psyche.
Mr Mr Quram says dont blam aur use bad word for others faith U just follow ur own One example As a muslim uf ur neighbour is hungry den u cant eat untill u share ur food with them
You need to know that religion and ideology are two different ways. They have their own rules. Don't look at only one point of view. Islam doesn't a threat. Could you please change your mind if you're an open minded person? Why don't you think why you wear clothes on your body? To protect yourself! We have the same reason! But our way are different and we have our own reason of that. Just live on your belief and don't judge Islam as a threat. If we were threat, then we won't be a great religion with a long and very long history. When you couldn't make respect on even one thing then you couldn't make a respect for the whole country aspects. Don't be so racist!
I can answer the question. The organization shouldn't have teachings that promote selfishness towards others. They can have requirements for things and exclude members from participating in services but they shouldn't encourage selfishness against people that are not part of that organization / ideology. Everything breaks down into selfishness or selflessness. If people can live a selfless life then they do not need to depend on some religion that only exists to help people get to that state of mind. At possibly the highest point of awareness we are able to understand that we are all figments of the greater awareness which is existence and when we understand that it is much easier to love our neighbor and forgive others because we understand we are interacting with figments of the same awareness which is also us. Anyway, unless people get a direct connection to the greater awareness they might not know what I am talking about - and that's fine - everyone is traveling their own path and we all have to decide if we are happy with who we are or not. Having said all that I do think that religion can be beneficial as there are negative forces that encourage selfish behavior and so it is good to have a place where you can focus on learning about selfless behavior - otherwise there is no alternative to selfishness being taught. There is all kinds of technical stuff I can say about the most recent discovery of the earlier Koran which didn't mention 'said character' at all and spoke mostly of Jesus however in the end - such technicalities do not override the fact that we can choose between selfishness or selflessness. Those whom choose selfish behavior are literally degenerating as a character and they hinder their own development as a figment of awareness. Jesus was an example of how to live a selfless life however if it were not Jesus it would be someone else - and no matter who it is, in the end it is just another figment of our self - the greater awareness - sending an example to show people that there is an alternative to selfish behavior. So I steer clear of organized religion but that is because I have had my own experiences and I also seek to be a selfless person -- the problem I have with organizations is that they are prone to corruption and humans make mistakes - so it is never fun when you are innocent and yet are condemned / banished / exiled / punished for something you didn't do - by the very organization you devoted your life to.
poulin is one kind of mental disorder person who is presenting by some un peaceful people ..poulin you don't know about Islam. .only Islam given lot respect women no other religion ..sorry as Muslim our Constitution is QURAN..and prophet Mohammad SA shoes exect democracy no body can't bit prophet ...coz he is not for Muslim he was for mankind. and he showed how to pass daily life ..
In around 1988 my boss who was an Egyptian Christian Kroptic said they had to leave Egypt because of Muslims because they could not get jobs because the weren't Muslims she said they didn't want to leave they had to she also said to me that you will have trouble in this country in years to come. Really didn't know what she was saying but she was right on the mark.
Four words to describe Australia now. Divide and bloody conquer. The right side of Politics is alive and well in our once very free and democratic society. The redhead is of the very same mindset that runs usa. Lovely! We like them have lost our country and our democracy because of the likes of her and her Cronies. I hope Talkbully and Co are pleased with and proud of themselves for what they have all done, to drive a wedge between all of us who truly like this country we call home. Thanks very much for turning this wonderful place into yet another overrun racist Cesspool. Congratulations to every political hag the people have to call our representatives. Disgusting! To say the least.
If Pauline believes that Australia is a Christian nation, then she ought to note that there aren't a whole lot of democratic ideals laden in its formative texts. That Christians can overlook this dogma in the pursuit of secular, modern society means that Muslims could do the same... and in fact do the same in many millions of cases.
Dear Pauline, exactly which verse in the Quran that you point out earlier? Because us Muslim will abide to every meaning from the Quran. Please don't lie using verses from Quran to deceive others. No being can bear eternal torments in Jahannam, do not bring others to join your ignorance. Learn Quran if u wish to quote the verses. May Allah grants us all guidance, to Muslims n also non-Muslims.
I agree with pauline.muslims are benefiting from a system created by western society that has separated politics and religion.its a great country overall even though i do think aboriginals should have been considered humans from very begining of colonization of the continent.if they think islamic political system is great than go live in a muslim country but they wouldn't do that of course because they know deep down that they are better off in australia than saudia arabia( i am muslim myself but im not retarded)
Malak Malak read my comments again moron thats not what i said.maybe you have reading deficiency.by your prehistoric standards that is keeping muslims from advancing into a developed world i am a shitty muslim.your clerics drive cars,use phone and internet,electricity,use modern medicine and equipment(saving millions of muslim lives) still these hypocrite clerics cannot see what is right and wrong.maybe im not the problem you are.maybe the western countries should have left muslims in 17th century where they belong and kept all scientific advancement away from them.maybe then they could see what is right and wrong.edison made the light bulbs that light the kabba in mecca
Sorry saki, but i am disagreed with u. Do u hv any idea of any non-muslim people in muslim country been through? Malaysia is one of the muslim and great country . This country have various types of tradition and religion. Evrybody is free to live . If ur idea is logic, dont u think millions of people need to migrate to other country just bcause its a muslim country? It is your thought. This ideology is just ridiculous.
syazwan mohsin problem with muslims and all faiths in general is that they very easily claim anybody from history.ibn sina was not considered a muslim by muslim clerics of that time and today. www.bakkah.net/en/the-reality-of-ibn-sina-avicenna-famous-scientist-and-philosopher.htm Its like dr abdul salam won the noble prize in physics and many muslim claim him as product of islam but he is from qadiani sect that is declared infidel/kafir by most muslim clerics and government of pakistan and persecuted. No religion can claim science.many scientist were persecuted by religion.to invent and discover needs knowledge of the physical,scientific method and free critical thinking which is complete opposite of blind faith.the best thing that happened to science is secularism.seperation of religion and state is the only way human race can move forward.unfortunately muslim majority of today are like christians of dark ages and secular world must be protected from them at all cost.
syazwan mohsin and you have no idea www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2016/08/28/the-radicalisation-of-islam-in-malaysia-academicians-worry-that-an-exclusivist-way-of-interpretating/ Only a matter of time ISIS beheading videos will start coming out of Malaysia also
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You know what Pauline, Im from the south coast of NSW , I work in a Cafe and we have Muslim Men and Women come in for a coffee or food, everyone is happy there is no separation, everyone is interested having a chat . talking about how great it is on the south coast, where are you from cool , that's great.. being kind to each other goes along way, being human.
fuque yu have you?
if the 'Muslim' people you speak to read the Quran seriously and believe what they read, they are dangerous to western society. That is a fact . However I feel a lot of people who are born in today's generation in a Muslim family, like to label themselves as Muslims but don't actually know or believe what is in the Quran. That is the same with any other religion I believe .
joseph le may . THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE IS FULL OF HORRORS AGAINST WOMEN AND NON BELIEVERS.IT IS NO DIFFERENT TO THE QUR'AN.
Please do tell when was the last time we saw any horrors being committed against women and non believers in the name of Jesus?
So if that is the case, is it not fair to say that it's probably not been a problem for a while? Yet today we can find cases of violence against women and non-Muslims every day. Take a look at thereligionofpeace.com. At the time of writing this, there have been 32,444 Islamic terror attacks around the world since 9/11 alone. In 2016, a report came out that in the UK, a new case of FGM is found every 109 minutes. Here in the US, we have just had a case in Michigan with FGM. We have also had honour killings, and I'm sure you've heard of the Orlando and San Bernadino shootings, which were terror attacks. We've many others. I would just as soon arrive at the same conclusions as you, but I see too much evidence to the contrary. Jihadwatch.org is a site that documents all the terror in the world (and more). It is updated frequently.
Please take a look at it. I think you will find it enlightening. Both the sites I mention here show the nature and magnitude of the threat.
Why can't he shut up??? I want to hear her complete her opinion.
Ever notice that people who speak against islam are talked over while muslims are NEVER interrupted...
u said that indonesia not democracy ?? u have to read more..
Pauline, look at Indonesia, your next door neighbor country. That's a democratic country with the largest muslim population in the world. Ideology and religion is absolutely different.
the godlight I do agree with you.
I'm indonesian
which teaching?
Thony kind u need to do some research dude, isn't always islam. If Christians do the bombing or some other terrorist stuff u won't call them terrorist, u will only say it's criminal or maybe u will call them terrorist but u won't judge them by their religion. As simple as that dude. And if u judge islam is terrorists just by bomb bali or other shit, then you must be lack of knowledge :).
Thony kind then tell me what happen in myanmar? What happen in palestine? U won't call it terrorism. Sad fact dude, Open your eyes.
She definitely wronged about non of islam countries doesn’t have democratic rules... Malaysia is a democratic country and Malaysia is also a islam country...
Any religion that is enforced by its government and it implies that all citizens has to follow its muslims laws whether your muslim or not. So that said muslim religion is a ideology.
Indoneaia is democracyhahahahahahahahaha ffs are these clowns serious. People can't walk down the street holding hands.
And western women wearing bikini in bali and lombok beach, or they wearing burka ? Did you know you sound so dumb ? 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
Why are you interrupting Pauline everytime.
She is incorrect. If western system separate religion from state, then why is there a holiday on christmas day and easter and not for other religions? There should be holiday on other religious events as well just like in India where there is equal representation of all religions. If not, then there is a big flaw and from this rises ultra nationalists like pauline.
Isn't it nice almost every day is a holiday because of multiculturalism ?
At the end of the day Australians don't need to justify their way of life to muslims.
If muslims are unhappy in Australia they're free to return home. Don't come into Australia and tell us how to live and what to accept. Imagine an Australian in Iraq, Afghanistan or other muslim country telling muslims to accept his way of life. His head would probably be cut off and kicked down the street. Australians are getting sick of muslim demands.
Patrick Lewis
Well said 👏👏👏👏👏
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If you don't like Australian muslims, u can go back to where u came from. This land belongs to Aboriginal Australian.
Ignorance is an enemy within. I feel for this old lady as she is just obsessed with Islamophibic sentiments out of hearsay.
Pauline Hanson keeps getting interupoted, Why is it that people can't digest the truth?
Richard Schroepfer oh sir people can digest the truth which she is not saying .....see simple
Yes of course. 'When IN Islam, it's hallowed as takyyia.
Takiyya is shia. Nothing to do with muslim geez
How can we believe that? Is is more takyyia?
So when ISIS commits acts of terror and calls it jihad, they will inherit the hell fire?
Why doesn't Pauline Hanson come out with the word everyone fears in the west Sharia Law!!!
'Pauline Hanson doesn't believe Islam is a religion and doesn't accept Indonesia is a democracy.' That is not quite what she says. In any case, it is not Pauline Hanson who should be subjected to a trial by TV like this. It is the Muslims in the studio who should be asked to explain what kind of country they would like Australia to be in the future - all women covering up like them, polygamy, sharia law, limbs being amputated as judicial punishments, girls being married at 9 years old?
And all of that islamophobic bullshit you said at the end just show's how low your understanding of muslims and that's not what we wan't. we just wan't peace no harm to muslims no prejudice no rules againt's us just RESPECT, yet somehow you mofos think that's somehow going to lead to shariaa law bieng implemented in australia but that's just because you simply have no basic idea how that law even work's, you can't put shariaa in a non islamic country (a country were not most people living there are muslims) yet you still wan't to be islamophobic instead of just simply respecting muslims as humans without lumping them with horrible people.
I am a practicing Catholic and increasing number of Christian said we are not even Christian !
Actually Pauline..... We are in fact, NOT a Christian country! We are a multicultural country!
go back where you came from
Multi race country...Because we are ONE but we are MANY from all the lands on earth we come...NOT MULTICULTURAL
We should never have let you foreigners through the boarder youre destroying Australia identity.
***** Islam will NOT prevail and those who try to push ISLAMIC ideologies in Australia will not prevail also...Fantastic isn't it.
***** keep your left-wing bullshit to yourself. you don't care about aussie values, culture and history. this is not your country and it never will be, go back where you came from. you only care about your own ethnic politics.
Pauline's impetus for her political career has, from day 1, been about fear mongering race and religion. She has nothing else to offer but will conveniently try to gaslight people into thinking otherwise. A highly manipulative individual
I fully believe that Pauline has the support of the majority of Australians regarding her views on Islam and Muslims in general.
Terrifying.
really..
Only the uneducated Australians.
if this is true, pathetic
Believe what you like, you are wrong.
Great question but bad,wrong,rubbish, nonsense etc answer..
Thank you Pauline Hanson for defending Aussie culture & values. Many in the West are not on board with Islamic 7th century iron age morality. Such pearls of wisdom as killing Homosexuals, GM genital mutilations of girls, Pedophilia, honour killings, forced marriage, amputations, killing Apostates, death for Blasphemy, stoning for adultery, & my favorite, Sharia Law. Historians will judge you kindly for defending Humanity, there are many who criticize White Theocracy but silent when real courage is required.
Pauline Dummy Hanson
Pauline apparently went to uni to understand religion ? Please explain Pauline ? You have big words now , and don't have to ask people what they mean.
What about christianity in the east pauline? What about christianity in Russia? Isnt it an ideology when these eastern christians prevent the democratic right of the people in Russia to be homosexual? Why does christianity interfere with the state's decisions in russia pauline, is it an ideology? How about the crusades? Why did they fight in the name of christianity? Shouldn't christianity if it is not an ideology, remain inside the church?
The points you make are wrong. When you say that only islam interferes with democracy and judaism and christianity do not interefere with democracy this is wrong. Do the ten commandments agree with democracy? How about all the rules and rituals and commands given in the torah and the bible? Why do democratic people need kosher food? If judaism and christianity are not ideologies and promote democracy, then they should not have any commands or ways of life prescribed. They should let people live ANYWAY they want. Why does christianity require you to believe in jesus to be saved from hell. If you dont accept jesus, you are said to burn in hell. Is this democracy?
The point that you should be making is, all 3 religions, Judaism, christianity and Islam are ideologies. However, when the modern world evolved, christians and jews were comfortable to embrace secular views and confine their religion only to the places of worship. Muslims are more devoted to their faith and will not let secular ideas to change the message of the One true god- Allah.
I think hanson name comes from judaism?? is it right??
Let all muslim countries respect all other religions by allowing them to practice their own religion without fear
WE ARE NOT A CHISTIAN COUNTRY AND I WAS BORN HERE....LET PEOPLE HAVE ANY FAITH THEY WANT...PAULINE HANSON IS VERY UNSAFE....PETER
She is amazing! Love her.
This is crazy bitch
This is what I don't get! That Lady said 1 nation? And they wanted to have a state of there own!!
My ears are bleeding from hearing her ignorance....
Indonesia is a rare case, it is moslem ,but we would have to ask those that have converted to Christianity how they are treated or feel in their own country , if they are shunned or segregated , I don't know any, so I cant say .we know islam originated in medina ,through muhammed and spread throughout the middle east ,even up to turkey ,but turkey is somewhat liberal in its ideas ,almost secular ,and that is why we have just seen an attempted military coup , because isis doesn't believe that turkey has a pure form of islam , it sees the government as being puppets of the west , Italy doesn't recognize islam as a religion and therefore doesn't grant it any tax breaks , its teachings and philosophies are violent and it hides behind decent people that obviously haven't analysed its teaching ,probably just grew up believing in it ,or maybe converted to it not really questioning it ,and of course if you were born in an Islamic country then you gotta be one .
i was born in australia and im muslim no one forced me lol
exactly ,you live in a country that gives you the freedom of choice ,if you were born in Saudi Arabia you wouldn't have a choice .
Why do you believe in Islam?
+James we dont believe in Islam we believe in God,
tara michael Yes but you are a muslim?
I love you, Pauline..You are my hero
The Magna Carta was heavily influenced by the church Ms Hanson. What do you say to that?
Ever heard of the KKK? Terrorism from Islam is actually quite small once you compare it to the terrorism Christianity has caused. It isn't however talked about as much and is brushed off regularly.
Look at our country Indonesia, we are different religions, we are different tribes, and trust. but we can live in love each other .. side by side. and we did not think about it. all we know is Peace is beautiful
Try building a Church is Aceh.
Paulene is saying the same thing too!! Australia in NOT a "Christian" country!!
By tradition it is.
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By the way, Indonesia is a democracy country. Just because Indo had more muslims than non-muslims, doesnt mean its Islamic Country. Islamic/Muslim country can only labeled to a country under Sharia/Islamic Law, such as Saudi Arabia. And one who say islam is against democracy, they should read Fiqh Law, cause they probably knows Islam only from media, and read the quran without tafseer(The meaning of Qur'an which representing general meaning per word)
Some day some time and some place Musilms will need to face the absolute true fact their Prophei was an actual real life tribal gangster warlord. HE did unspeakable things. And COMANDED his followers the same things.
Evidence???
The cunning muslim woman ask for "more important issues" to deviate the main and central discussion: It's Islam-muslims a political ideology? The easy answer for that question is YES, based in the quran, haddiths, sharia. That muslim woman detour, deviate, circumvent that and other issues about muslims with TAQIYYA-TAWRIYAH.
cristian country? are you kidding me! country consist of public, its their choice for their faith not you. you say islam rude, did yours perfectly good?
we had a christian country ? does she even know the means of christian country and if she does find me one.
Shoaib Khan Poland 96.5% Catholic, Russia 83% Apostolic Orthodox and growing. Hungary, Slovakia, Czechia. Lepanto 1571AD and Vienna September 11, 1683AD has not disappeared from our memories nor from New Yorkers.
Then move back to a Muslim country and live happily over there!
Pauline hanson ur lose.
David Marler, I'm not taking sides with Pauline Hanson, (for various reasons) however, you saying that she doesn't believe Islam is a religion, and that she doesn't accept Indonesia to be a democracy, is a false statement. It is a fact that Islam is one of the monotheistic religions, as well as being an ideology. Hanson is well aware that Islam is a religion, she is just not focusing on the religious, but the ideological aspect of Islam. I think it is her right to do so, considering that so much harm is done in the name of Islam, not only in Australia, but worldwide. When it comes to Indonesia, well it has quite a complex history, but since independence, it was mainly ruled under a military dictatorship. Some kind of semblance of democracy is fairly recent, and I don't think one can compare this so called democracy in Indonesia, to democratic systems in the western world. I'm not making a value statement, it is just that a concept like a democracy, takes time to evolve in the consciousness of people.
Exodus 23:9 Do not oppress a foreigner; you yourselves know how it feels to be foreigners, because you were foreigners in Egypt.
Hebrews 13:2 Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it.
Mark 12:31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself. There is no commandment greater than these.
She needs history lessons, seriously!
Yeah, she say islam not democracy
Then how abu bakr be the leader of islam after muhammad die, when even muhammad never choose anyone as the next leader
Indonesia is a democracy. What you believe or don't believe does not change facts.
She is not very good whit her answers
Islam, Judaism and Christianity all stem from the Abraham-ic faith...
The smartest argument, counter argument to stem from a Muslim mind. The answer is, they don't.
What about the terrorist behavior of non-Muslims towards Muslims, why did we not consider the religion of these people as terrorist? What about world wars and massacres, why do we not consider the religion of those who participated in it as a terrorist? Or does the issue only apply to Muslims? Why all this hatred for Muslims?
If we look at Poland we will see Christianity united with the state, the church is not separate from the state. In Polish churches priests don't preach the Word of God, instead a Far-Right IDEOLOGY from the ruling party. I am a catholic and I can tell you that, at least in Poland, the Catholic Church is not separate from the state. Even the most christian parties like PSL and Poland 2050 support a split from the church and the state.
There are many countries which will not allow non Muslims to hold government positions (Pakistan). Why can't Australia ban non Christians from holding government positions.
When she reads something she sounds like she's 9 and here she sounds normal.
Paulene is just as uninformed...
Should of asked the muslim chick if she follows sharia law and if she thinks that supersedes democratic law
She is prejudiced.
Dear Ms. Pauline Hanson, our country (your beloved neighbor here, who once spied by your gov) is indeed Islamic and a Democratic country. We also elected some non-muslims leaders on our regional provinces thru conventional non sharia election. No wonder people like you always underestimate us, you yourself have no idea who your neighbor is. Dont let ur hatred against one faith makes you adjust stupid arguments with bullshits just like what u did.
There is democracy in pakistan . Which is a Muslim country . What are u talking about.
Why is this white guy so rude, he is constantly cutting off Pauline? He needs to learn some manners.
Hanson is right
India had hundreds of years trying to have Muslims and other religions live in peace. Finally Gandhi gave up and created Pakistan for the Muslims as they were fighting with all other religions. Why does some people in Western countries think they can avoid the same infighting and bloodshed India experienced with a large Muslin population for hundreds of years? The Koran teaches good Muslims to live apart from non Muslims and not to befriend them. That is why there will always be 2 nations within on nation where you have a Muslim majority. There IS NO integration . The Koran teaches against this.
Burqua is not a piece of religious attire its a piece or legal attire its called sharia law not sharia religion, the muslim fundalmentaists who practice sharia law are not practising a religion they are practising a legal code that overrides our national laws and degrades women and treats them as second class citizens. That is acceptable? No.
I have no problem with the headscarf, I have no problem with Allah. I have a problem with extremist fundamentalists of all religions who take their religion as law not as a guide, religion is not law it is a guide on how to live a better more fullfilled life of body mind and spirit/soul/psyche.
Bishops sit in the Westminster . The political head of state is also head of Church of England. Diluted now but not for hundreds of years.
Who the hell is afraid to walk the streets in Ostraaa?
I think this woman just plainly hates islam and muslim ...
No…she hates their ideology, their violence, their mentality!
Mdm. Pauline... you may give the same answers to Israeli Jews too...
What does the koran say no personal opinons
Mr Mr
Quram says dont blam aur use bad word for others faith
U just follow ur own
One example
As a muslim uf ur neighbour is hungry den u cant eat untill u share ur food with them
Thony kind i bet you didnt even read the quran, juat assumption.
it s so funny that people who know less talk the most
she is a divider.
You need to know that religion and ideology are two different ways. They have their own rules. Don't look at only one point of view. Islam doesn't a threat. Could you please change your mind if you're an open minded person?
Why don't you think why you wear clothes on your body? To protect yourself!
We have the same reason! But our way are different and we have our own reason of that. Just live on your belief and don't judge Islam as a threat. If we were threat, then we won't be a great religion with a long and very long history.
When you couldn't make respect on even one thing then you couldn't make a respect for the whole country aspects.
Don't be so racist!
Religion is the poison for the mind!
I can answer the question. The organization shouldn't have teachings that promote selfishness towards others. They can have requirements for things and exclude members from participating in services but they shouldn't encourage selfishness against people that are not part of that organization / ideology. Everything breaks down into selfishness or selflessness. If people can live a selfless life then they do not need to depend on some religion that only exists to help people get to that state of mind. At possibly the highest point of awareness we are able to understand that we are all figments of the greater awareness which is existence and when we understand that it is much easier to love our neighbor and forgive others because we understand we are interacting with figments of the same awareness which is also us. Anyway, unless people get a direct connection to the greater awareness they might not know what I am talking about - and that's fine - everyone is traveling their own path and we all have to decide if we are happy with who we are or not. Having said all that I do think that religion can be beneficial as there are negative forces that encourage selfish behavior and so it is good to have a place where you can focus on learning about selfless behavior - otherwise there is no alternative to selfishness being taught. There is all kinds of technical stuff I can say about the most recent discovery of the earlier Koran which didn't mention 'said character' at all and spoke mostly of Jesus however in the end - such technicalities do not override the fact that we can choose between selfishness or selflessness. Those whom choose selfish behavior are literally degenerating as a character and they hinder their own development as a figment of awareness. Jesus was an example of how to live a selfless life however if it were not Jesus it would be someone else - and no matter who it is, in the end it is just another figment of our self - the greater awareness - sending an example to show people that there is an alternative to selfish behavior. So I steer clear of organized religion but that is because I have had my own experiences and I also seek to be a selfless person -- the problem I have with organizations is that they are prone to corruption and humans make mistakes - so it is never fun when you are innocent and yet are condemned / banished / exiled / punished for something you didn't do - by the very organization you devoted your life to.
im glad that Pauline is voicing the way Australians really feel about that plague called islam
Anthony Masluk Really sorry that you are the way you are.
Really sorry.
im not scared to walk the streets
Not yet, Cal. But in some areas of British cities you probably would be if you are not a Muslim.
WHERE IS ANGEL FUCKING DIAZ?!?!
Good luck if you go to Germany..
don't be scared
Without knowing their teachings and knowing about their text you have no knowledge to debate them
Pauline. Such a shame to the great country Australia
It is not a shame to defend your values….
poulin is one kind of mental disorder person who is presenting by some un peaceful people ..poulin you don't know about Islam. .only Islam given lot respect women no other religion ..sorry as Muslim our Constitution is QURAN..and prophet Mohammad SA shoes exect democracy no body can't bit prophet ...coz he is not for Muslim he was for mankind. and he showed how to pass daily life ..
Yall shud thank to pauline, she wanted to save australia !
ha ha you are a moron
I really hope you're joking! The way she talks, if she continues to talk out of her backside like that, she'll start world war 3!
Gar cit Australia been safe for Eva what's the problem idiot
Gar cit fucku
In around 1988 my boss who was an Egyptian Christian Kroptic said they had to leave Egypt because of Muslims because they could not get jobs because the weren't Muslims she said they didn't want to leave they had to she also said to me that you will have trouble in this country in years to come. Really didn't know what she was saying but she was right on the mark.
the protestors support her? bad point
Nik Xenophon is Greek
Four words to describe Australia now. Divide and bloody conquer. The right side of Politics is alive and well in our once very free and democratic society. The redhead is of the very same mindset that runs usa. Lovely! We like them have lost our country and our democracy because of the likes of her and her Cronies. I hope Talkbully and Co are pleased with and proud of themselves for what they have all done, to drive a wedge between all of us who truly like this country we call home. Thanks very much for turning this wonderful place into yet another overrun racist Cesspool. Congratulations to every political hag the people have to call our representatives. Disgusting! To say the least.
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Ok.Let terrorists keep doing the same thing, tolerate violence….if you say anything you are Islamophobic.
And also why you dont ?
Why dont you ask what comes first sharia law or Australian law
A word of advice Pauline. Look into history and u will find Islam, Christianity and Judaism lived happily together under the rule of god.
Where????
@@echoe4806 u look and you will find ...
What the fuck is 'Is-lame'?
Pauline is absolutely right.
So satisfying
Don't talk abt what's in the Quran,when u don't understand it in the first place Pauline!
Surah 2:191: "And kill them (non-Muslims) wherever you find them … kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers (non-Muslims)."
look at the desert countries people are living under democracy.....ha ha ha
I need translate :((
Although I support Pauline, she really needs to develop better argumentation skills
Yeah she's not a good speaker Malcolm Roberts is though
AU known as Black water prison
If Pauline believes that Australia is a Christian nation, then she ought to note that there aren't a whole lot of democratic ideals laden in its formative texts. That Christians can overlook this dogma in the pursuit of secular, modern society means that Muslims could do the same... and in fact do the same in many millions of cases.
Pauline Hanson is so good
Chris Frick stupid
Pauline LEGEND
Mitchell Karr that term is thrown around quite a lot nowadays. Sorry, but she's not the true definition of such a word.
What comes with the package
well said pauline , does who dont agree will end up biting their own tongue 1 day
Dear Pauline, exactly which verse in the Quran that you point out earlier? Because us Muslim will abide to every meaning from the Quran. Please don't lie using verses from Quran to deceive others. No being can bear eternal torments in Jahannam, do not bring others to join your ignorance. Learn Quran if u wish to quote the verses. May Allah grants us all guidance, to Muslims n also non-Muslims.
that ranga gets drilled by the host about never having terror attacks in oz
I agree with pauline.muslims are benefiting from a system created by western society that has separated politics and religion.its a great country overall even though i do think aboriginals should have been considered humans from very begining of colonization of the continent.if they think islamic political system is great than go live in a muslim country but they wouldn't do that of course because they know deep down that they are better off in australia than saudia arabia( i am muslim myself but im not retarded)
Malak Malak read my comments again moron thats not what i said.maybe you have reading deficiency.by your prehistoric standards that is keeping muslims from advancing into a developed world i am a shitty muslim.your clerics drive cars,use phone and internet,electricity,use modern medicine and equipment(saving millions of muslim lives) still these hypocrite clerics cannot see what is right and wrong.maybe im not the problem you are.maybe the western countries should have left muslims in 17th century where they belong and kept all scientific advancement away from them.maybe then they could see what is right and wrong.edison made the light bulbs that light the kabba in mecca
Sorry saki, but i am disagreed with u. Do u hv any idea of any non-muslim people in muslim country been through? Malaysia is one of the muslim and great country . This country have various types of tradition and religion. Evrybody is free to live . If ur idea is logic, dont u think millions of people need to migrate to other country just bcause its a muslim country? It is your thought. This ideology is just ridiculous.
Saki dont forget the father of modern medicine which is Ibn Sina. U need to read the history of dark ages of Euporean country.
syazwan mohsin problem with muslims and all faiths in general is that they very easily claim anybody from history.ibn sina was not considered a muslim by muslim clerics of that time and today.
www.bakkah.net/en/the-reality-of-ibn-sina-avicenna-famous-scientist-and-philosopher.htm
Its like dr abdul salam won the noble prize in physics and many muslim claim him as product of islam but he is from qadiani sect that is declared infidel/kafir by most muslim clerics and government of pakistan and persecuted.
No religion can claim science.many scientist were persecuted by religion.to invent and discover needs knowledge of the physical,scientific method and free critical thinking which is complete opposite of blind faith.the best thing that happened to science is secularism.seperation of religion and state is the only way human race can move forward.unfortunately muslim majority of today are like christians of dark ages and secular world must be protected from them at all cost.
syazwan mohsin and you have no idea
www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2016/08/28/the-radicalisation-of-islam-in-malaysia-academicians-worry-that-an-exclusivist-way-of-interpretating/
Only a matter of time ISIS beheading videos will start coming out of Malaysia also
I didn't know the KKK had roots in Australia to, thought it was just an American thing