I actually think Blackflame is the *current* version of the godslayer flame, after it lost the power of Destined Death. It has the DoT, but not the HP-reducing effect.
@@Thunderlord_Tozn I mean, he never stated of it being separate. Just theorizing on two different versions of the same flame, from the past and in the now. Maliketh's flame/the flames emitted from his blade are black and red, and have the HP-reducing effect along with DoT, because of course he has Destined Death. The Godslaying Blackflame is black and white, with a DoT similar to to Maliketh's Black Blade, but no HP-reducing effect. Which is what he means on it possibly being a "current version" as the flame likely had a similar effect to Maliketh's Destined Death flames before, because of GEQ having Destined Death.
If i'm not wrong the black flame just has to do with the godskin that were a faction under the gloamed eye queen or something like that, until marika murdered most of them, the rune of death has that red in it. Two different things, if what I'm saying is even true (idk saw people discussing it on reddit)
@@Gale42 They’re not different because the black flame originated from the Gloam-Eyed Queen. The Gloam-Eyed Queen, before she faced Maliketh, had the Rune of Death, so most likely her “black flame” was red at the time (basically the same flame as the RoD)-and the lost the “red” color after losing the power of the Rune of Death. Which is what Maliketh has now.
A weird thing about the safety roll is that it works regardless of equip load. Even if you have over 100% equip burden, you can still safety roll out of a knockdown.
glad you brought up melina's gloam-eye here. that frenzy ending has been one of the biggest lore-drops since day 1, but i've still not seen anyone tackle it convincingly. her purple eye is the only thing in-game that could be described as "gloam-eyed," yet nobody seems to mention it. i wonder if she actively keeps her eye closed to hide it, rather than being blind in that eye. perhaps the mark around her eye is some sort of brand sealing its power. idk but its fun to speculate, 100% expect the gloam-eyed queen to be explored in dlc. its kinda funny how many characters melina is associated with. shares the eye/apparition thing with ranni, shares the butterfly thing with malenia/miquella, and has some connection with the gloam-eyed queen and night of the black knives.
Interestingly enough the seal on her eye also appears to be a beast claw, which would make sense if Maliketh did something to seal the power of the black flame after defeating the godskins.
The beast eye you receive from Gurranq is clawed and also resembles Melina's eye. Because of its stone structure, i've seen a few people state that Marika is the Gloam Eyed Queen
Pretty sure Melina is Marika’s child, as she has such a deep connection to her that she can recite words she had spoken eons ago. I don’t believe she is the gloom eyed queen, so it leaves a lot to think about.
@@johnkramer2144 yeah i dont think either melina or marika is the queen at all, which makes the connection all the more intriguing. melinas deep connection to marika is absolutely there, and its pretty much certain that shes at least a demigod, but its hard to say what their actual relation is. makes me wonder if the gloam-eyed queen mighta been part of that whole family, or if the timeline even works out on that, but again i expect dlc to explore it.
I have a theory that explains Melina pretty well, it's in the comment section of this video ruclips.net/video/AIim26oLSG8/видео.html I wrote too much to explain here... I am dubbing it the "Mitosis" theory... seriously, check it out this guys video gave me a eureka moment on the lore.
Blackflame blade has similar mechanics to carian slicer; it casts faster in jumps, after rolls, while running, and crouching. Maybe if you crouch after the parry you can get the riposte?
Saint you can change your godskin peeler and keep black flame tornado. Just grab the Black flame tornado AOW from the godskin duo, re-infuse the weapon with _that_ black flame tornado as keen (or whatever), and boom. youll still be able to apply black flame weapon too as long as its you know, not an elemental infusion..
Hair is the guide. Marika's children have red or gold hair. Melina has hybrid hair of red and gold resulting in pink. Melina calls herself a daughter of Marika and claims her physical body is burned and broken. Marika has a body which is broken and burned by what appears to be crystallized death flame. Melina is probably a clonal daughter of Marika. Similar to Millicent et al being clonal daughters of Malenia. Marika effectively rebirthed her soul through the Erdtree in order to escape imprisonment both from the Erdtree and from the Radagon personality which had been imposed on her. This is why a supposed daughter of Marika gets no mention anywhere. She's not a daughter in the typical sense and nobody has seen her except for the player and possibly Vyke. Given all of that, Marika demonstrates a capacity for multiple manifestations, the Gloam Eyed Queen likely is/was Marika. So Melina is the Gloam Eyed Queen in the sense that she is Marika and Marika is the Gloam Eyed Queen. So GEQ was never killed. More than likely the imposition of the Radagon personality on Marika suppressed the GEQ manifestation. The Godskins were defeated, probably because they lost their leader in what seems to be one of many of Marika's attempts to break free from the control of the Greater Will. Being controlled her whole life and trying to break free is kinda her entire deal, it seems.
I always put it together like this: - Pre-Shattering, Gloam Eyed Queen and Marika fight, possibly because M is a god. - GEQ loses, and the Death she and the Godskins own are stolen and sealed (this could be why Destined Death is red/black and Black Flame is white/black, because the true power was taken from the BF, leaving it partially blank). - At some point, M has the GEQ reborn through the Erdtree, making her a sort of daughter, but the power she holds is sealed. She is also bodiless. - At some point M shatters the Elden Ring, and gets imprisoned. She makes Melina serve as a kindling maiden to burn the Erdtree, to either free M or sever the Greater Will from the Lands Between or whatever her goal actually was. - Melina might have been with Vyke, maybe not. Eventually we meet up with her, though. Another thing to note is that in the Frenzied Flame ending, Melina gets her sealed eye back and also states that she will end us with Destined Death, which implies she has her powers back.
Something I've recently thought about is the connection between Roderika and Marika. Both have same hair, *and* Hewg compare her to someone he's met before (which I personally think is Marika herself). But Roderika came over the sea, so perhaps only a distant relative?
@@prins-henrik1530 Hewg says "I saw another one like her, long ago. Their eyes share the same hue." I believe Roderika's eyes are green, and I don't think we know what color Marika's eyes are. Hewg is also terrified of Marika, so I think he would have mentioned that. Hair color is pretty important though, so maybe Roderika is just related to the Numens?
@@prins-henrik1530 Interesting. Like I mentioned, I think Marika had a lot of schemes relating to trying to free herself from her position. Maybe Roderika is a part of one of those schemes? Maybe a failed part? I dunno, could be interesting to spend more time on evaluating the possible connection.
In the items Lore it says that the black flames lost its original power after maliketh obtained deastined death,thats why black fales have DoT but it doesn´t reduce the HP like Deastined death effect.
Melina is probably Marika's daughter(file name for her model, and she rounds out the third trio of demigod children: Godwyn/Morgott/Mohg, Ranni/Rykard/Radahn, Malenia/Miquella/Melina). Gloam Eyed Queen was a competitor of Marika to become a god, before being defeated by Maliketh. Melina might be her reincarnation(Erdtree reincarnation being weird and all) or successor to her role as guardian/wielder of destined death.
I was also working on a black flame build so glad you’re doing the work for me so I can just use what you use because I know it’ll be infinitely better. Thanks Saint!
Full O flame can combo into things as big as a curved greatsword r1. Can also combo into gurranqs boulder with radagons talisman even at low cast speed. Rn I'm trying to see if I can land O flame -> boulder -> beast claw rollcatch.
9:28 I've heard a few theories about Melina and the Gloam-Eyed Queen. Like how she's not her daughter, but the queen herself since she only appears to you as a spirit and her appearance is explained as a she's a younger version of herself since a queen wouldn't be a maiden.
Fun fact: blackflame blade can be cast at max speed while jumping, rolling, and running. You can use old lords talisman to buff its duration. It's essentially a non-expensive alternative to rope grease... and it has a DoT effect that can be activated on both phantom hits and ranged ashes of war. If you land multiple hits, the damage over time stacks like bloodflame blade... I've been using it with the Urumi, it's fantastic for fighting off overly defensive players that do nothing but dodge, as regardless of how many times they dodge you, the DoT still applies.
I’ve been having a lot of fun with my blackflame build named: Adherent of Dark. The incantations definitely aren’t meta but they have some cool uses, scouring black flame for example randomly hits way harder sometimes but im not sure why(I suspect it has something to do with hitting two different hitboxes of the spell at once, but no proof on that). As for the god slayers greatsword, the downwards swing of the weapon art’s hit box ends while the sword is still pointing mostly into the air, so you can get a LOT more range if you free aim the downwards swing straight down. Anyways can’t wait to see what you do with the build, thanks Saint.
I'm fairly sure it's mentioned somewhere that most versions of death-flame (Ghostflame, Blackflame, Destined Death) were all once one kind of flame and that it was purple or violet on the visible light spectrum before their colour and power diminished
This has been one of my favorites since drop glad some people are catching on also another tip if you proc frostbite the noble presence doesn’t get rid of it you can inflict more damage on a boss since all their resistances will be down and stay that way if you dont have any other source of fire damage its a good way to inflict fire damage without removing frostbite
Free aiming any fireballs is so fun when you get the hang of it and it surprises so many players, they don't expect to be hit when they are far away. Giant's flame surprises them with death most of the time, lol.
The algorithm got you all fucked up, bro. It's been forever since I've been recommended any of your vids and I've always loved them. I feel like you're a very underappreciated content creator and I pray that in the future, you gain more of a following and more exposure so that the algorithm can do you some justice. Great vid as always!
aw man, i pickedup dark souls 1 again just a few weeks ago for a little bit but i had no idea return to lordran was happening. great build and great video, thanks for sharing!
the black flame if I am not mistaken only draws pawer from the destined death and with it being inside Malekith now, it's lost it's god slaying properties.
I love your thematic builds, and that inspired me to do always the same thing with all 10 characters slots in all souls games. Also been playing with a black flame build, and I love it, but haven't tried noble presence like that, so gonna do it from now on
Scouring Blackflame is best used in conjunction with Blackflame Ritual. Both of which are territory-denial style attacks. After launching a Ritual, hop out and then assess how your opponent is approaching, if they go around, chances are they cannot see you charging the Scouring spell. If they are trying to escape the ritual that's even better because most people try everything they can to get out of the ritual due to the stagger. Honestly...we need Blackflame Combustion...
Marika plucked the rune of death from the elden ring. Thus began her reign as marika the eternal. She gave the rune of death to her shadow, maliketh, to safeguard it. On the night of the black knives a shard of the rune of death was stolen and made into the black knives
After a year playing elden ring I just learned that if you pop the balloon that the skeletons drop from, even if there's no skeletons on it, you get a high level golden rune. High level relative to the zone you're in. Only the 1st time you pop it I assume. I haven't tried popping the same balloon twice
5:55 and 7:10 Yes! Very excited to see what you can do with just Black Flame stuff. BF Blade is just too little for what is required of it. Maybe if the cast was faster, longer, and the DoT was 5% HP not 2%. I just like seeing that CS on a Black Flame caster. It really takes a lot to mix the two together, stat-wise. I use every class of fire incant on my pyro guy (Giant/BF/Madness/Blood) and I absolutely love using BF Ritual to set up a kill with BF Tornado Ash. So, I really recommend that.
Also sad that for some reason it gets worse incant scaling thann electrify, despite the short time. I'm pretty sure electrify is going to do more damage 9 times out of 10
On the other hand, it does add a large amount of AR while it's buffed. During one of his streams he checked when he was around level ~140 and it went up over 250 ar
It’s a quick cast spell tho. It’s literally amongst the fastest casting spells in the game. You do anything, just like catch flame or swift glintstone shard, and it will come out faster. If you’re really cheeky you can jump cast it, the use an ash that hits multiple times when you land and it’ll do tons of damage. I like to use it with repeating thrusts.
Have you considered Black Knife hard swap even though it deals Holy? Great ranged addition. Also, I love Flame Grant Me Strength/fire physick/Golden Vow/Godfrey Icon/Flocks Canvas with black flame builds, really carries the somewhat bad Incants especially with high Fth. Great vid as always, can't wait to see the finished build
I liked this video near the beginning and then tried to like it again when you were free throwing the black flame fire balls definitely gonna sun you’re funny
BTW all of the Godslaying nobel pieces buff the nobels presence spell not just the chest piece in their discription so using the boots or bracers will still increase its damage
The black knife really synergizes well with a black flame build. Gives a relatively quick-moving projectile that eats up HP. Makes sense to steal back the destined death that was taken from you. It’s also hard to see you using it when you’re in the center of a black flame ritual.
You should try a greatsword with storm blade. Storm blade procs the Black Flame Blade DOT, and is pretty good. Using the flame monk curved greatsword would probably look dope (if you can get the stupid thing to drop)
imagine landing fully charged nobles presence with two seals and noble's robe equipped (40% boost from get go without taking in consideration incant scaling) and if you also add the godfrey icon,canvas,fire scorpion talismans on top..... ufff! it is very very nasty
Idk if it's just me but I've been invading at RL 200 and 90% of my invasions lately are boss fogs, I don't know why the small area right before Radagon/Elden Beast is invadable but jesus christ I wish it wasn't, 80% of my invasions are that stupid little area, 10% are right in front of Malania, 5% are Limgrave Gankers just sitting there all day, and the last 5% is that ever sweet and oh so rare people actually exploring.
I have encountered some mohg elevator gankers who would get the invader on the elevator then use tons of aoe’s when they couldn’t run. If you didn’t go to the elevator to die a constant stream of hunters would try to kill you. And since they weren’t using the tongue it was only one invader.
Just a heads up, fire based AoW like flame of the red mane, Eruption and etc. can transfer the effects of Black Flame Blades DoT, so buff a weapon with Black Flame Blade then use flames of the red man and suddenly you technically have another Black Flame incantation
Catch Flame combos pretty regularly into Straight Sword Stance R2. It's not 100% perfect every time, but it's consistent enough to be considered a combo.
You definitely can change the affinity and ash of war on the godskin peeler I know because I have 2 keen godskin peelers and one of them has spinning slash on it
praise raptor of the mist because if you use it and they end up not hitting you, you can follow up with a light attack to get a crouch attack. Aka slap that baby on a UGS and if they miss you get one free big boy poke
I’ve found the best way to catch people after a backstab is to turn my back and start to walk away and then immediately r1, locking back on. Don’t give them a reason to safety roll basically.
its funny that you bring up going back to lordran, i got that same feeling when elden ring pvp clicked for me. its just Dark Souls 3 pvp with a few more fancy mechanics that look like they came from sekiro . What a fun combination.
Thank you for making this video I only played blood born and was used to the old rolling now that I know rolling got mega buffed it all makes sense why I can never hit anything no matter the weapon advantage.
Rant ahead: I hate the passive armor bonuses. If I have a fashion set, I will always feel as though I'm losing free damage every time I use the spell. Example Crucible incants. I don't want to have to do a Crucible knight cosplay if I want to use the incants at their fullest potential. Reason why I'm saying this here is because -abyss shriek- *nobles presence* gets a buff from the godskin noble chestpiece (the rather _rotund_ one). Not to mention that i don't think it gets a buff from godskin seal because of the chestpiec bonus. Also it seems completely overshadowed by wrath of gold.
I recently converted to black flame incantations & I gotta say the kit is nice 👌🏾. I've been combining endure from spiked caestus with noble's presence. The poise seems to stack.
I have a lvl88 build and weapons +17 for invasions and this is the most active level in my opinion. You get invasions b2b and damage in not as ridiculous as lvl125 or above.
Wrath of gold is still just a better version even without hyper armor, I want noble presence to be good but if they didn't roll directly into you on wake-up it won't hit
Its a shame that the godslayer isnt the best for that build you have. As youve discovered long ago its actually a quality weapon with a faith tax... That said, there are actually still many ways to build for it: you can go for more strength, more dex or more faith. Obviously more dex with some str will be the optimal, the minimal dex requirement with faith or str investment will still be roughly equivalent assuming similar effective stats. That said, i still think the faith scaling shouldnt have been so weak.
I ran a black flame build recently, my fashion was ronin chest, godrick soldier gauntlets and boots, with a black knife hood, just sharing if you all would like to check this out
funny enough started the exact same build a few days ago just without the godslayer sword only relying on the twinblade godskin peeler but im still not sure about black flame blade or just infusing it with flame so it scales with faith
Im going to look into it more when im off the clock but, does saint have any videos using a frenzy build? Its my current build but I am trash with the spells. I just can’t figure them out and his vids are *chef kiss* First time doing a non pure physical build too so, maybe It just didnt click yet
Thank god I lost my ability to retain information just avoided so many spoilers 😭 also I temporarily respec my bloodborne hunter themed build into an arcane mage omg crazy I wanna get to sl 140 I think but it revolves around the thorn spells and Raptors cloak lol think about it
Ds1 was my only other souls game, I got Elden Ring just before Christmas and have 150 hours into it I'm loving it, I'm still rune level1 with plus +4 sombering weapons, I was wondering what's the best rune level to invade at with those level of armaments, live the videos keep having fun! \[T]/
Hi Saint about that infinite roll i-frames on wake up at 15:56 i think you should get roll catched with his r1 but your roll loks like it has infinite i-frames just as you said after wake up right?
Okay I feel like a goofball for asking, but where are the return to events even posted. I feel like every time I hear about it it's different than when I thought it be.
Not only you get infinite I frames on recovery from a knockdown but if you're a STRONK, BIG heavy roller you will mid roll out of a knockdown for free!
I, too, can not get scouring black flame to work good in fights, pve and pvp. And I want it to work so bad because it looks cool. But that rising movement of the flame is my bane
I broke a bone in my hand on Christmas Eve and I’ve been playing with a cast on my hand. I really wish I could convey to my opponent that I beat them with bulky cast on my hand
if nobody got me I know FREE AIMED BLACK FLAME FIREBALL GOT ME CAN I GET AN AMEN
AAAAAAMEEEEN BROTHAA
_AMEN_
Amen
no.
@@Belial289 dont spoil the mood man, would you prefer to be burned by a laggy fireball?
The lore you dig into before pivoting to Kroger discounts was fabulous
Kroger discounts *ARE* the lore you fucking _TIMBO_
I actually think Blackflame is the *current* version of the godslayer flame, after it lost the power of Destined Death. It has the DoT, but not the HP-reducing effect.
It’s called “the god slaying black flame” …they’re not separate.
@@Thunderlord_Tozn I mean, he never stated of it being separate. Just theorizing on two different versions of the same flame, from the past and in the now. Maliketh's flame/the flames emitted from his blade are black and red, and have the HP-reducing effect along with DoT, because of course he has Destined Death. The Godslaying Blackflame is black and white, with a DoT similar to to Maliketh's Black Blade, but no HP-reducing effect. Which is what he means on it possibly being a "current version" as the flame likely had a similar effect to Maliketh's Destined Death flames before, because of GEQ having Destined Death.
i mean...that's what the lore says
If i'm not wrong the black flame just has to do with the godskin that were a faction under the gloamed eye queen or something like that, until marika murdered most of them, the rune of death has that red in it. Two different things, if what I'm saying is even true (idk saw people discussing it on reddit)
@@Gale42 They’re not different because the black flame originated from the Gloam-Eyed Queen. The Gloam-Eyed Queen, before she faced Maliketh, had the Rune of Death, so most likely her “black flame” was red at the time (basically the same flame as the RoD)-and the lost the “red” color after losing the power of the Rune of Death. Which is what Maliketh has now.
A weird thing about the safety roll is that it works regardless of equip load. Even if you have over 100% equip burden, you can still safety roll out of a knockdown.
glad you brought up melina's gloam-eye here. that frenzy ending has been one of the biggest lore-drops since day 1, but i've still not seen anyone tackle it convincingly. her purple eye is the only thing in-game that could be described as "gloam-eyed," yet nobody seems to mention it. i wonder if she actively keeps her eye closed to hide it, rather than being blind in that eye. perhaps the mark around her eye is some sort of brand sealing its power. idk but its fun to speculate, 100% expect the gloam-eyed queen to be explored in dlc. its kinda funny how many characters melina is associated with. shares the eye/apparition thing with ranni, shares the butterfly thing with malenia/miquella, and has some connection with the gloam-eyed queen and night of the black knives.
Interestingly enough the seal on her eye also appears to be a beast claw, which would make sense if Maliketh did something to seal the power of the black flame after defeating the godskins.
The beast eye you receive from Gurranq is clawed and also resembles Melina's eye. Because of its stone structure, i've seen a few people state that Marika is the Gloam Eyed Queen
Pretty sure Melina is Marika’s child, as she has such a deep connection to her that she can recite words she had spoken eons ago.
I don’t believe she is the gloom eyed queen, so it leaves a lot to think about.
@@johnkramer2144 yeah i dont think either melina or marika is the queen at all, which makes the connection all the more intriguing. melinas deep connection to marika is absolutely there, and its pretty much certain that shes at least a demigod, but its hard to say what their actual relation is. makes me wonder if the gloam-eyed queen mighta been part of that whole family, or if the timeline even works out on that, but again i expect dlc to explore it.
I have a theory that explains Melina pretty well, it's in the comment section of this video
ruclips.net/video/AIim26oLSG8/видео.html
I wrote too much to explain here...
I am dubbing it the "Mitosis" theory... seriously, check it out this guys video gave me a eureka moment on the lore.
Blackflame blade has similar mechanics to carian slicer; it casts faster in jumps, after rolls, while running, and crouching. Maybe if you crouch after the parry you can get the riposte?
Be careful, saint! Don't let your black flame near the gasoline you redeemed your kroger fuel points for!
Saint you can change your godskin peeler and keep black flame tornado. Just grab the Black flame tornado AOW from the godskin duo, re-infuse the weapon with _that_ black flame tornado as keen (or whatever), and boom. youll still be able to apply black flame weapon too as long as its you know, not an elemental infusion..
He can't do it _yet,_ as the build is not complete and he still wanted to use BFT, which is why he did this here.
@@qwormuli77 lmao I came down here to say the same thing as op, but fair enough GSD at level 80 is pretty damn hard 😅
@@Chaduceus Yeah, he'd do it , but he hasn't blasted the duo yet.
@@Chaduceus sleep pots go brr
Problem is that blackflame tornado dispells any weapon buffs that are on your weapon.
Hair is the guide. Marika's children have red or gold hair. Melina has hybrid hair of red and gold resulting in pink.
Melina calls herself a daughter of Marika and claims her physical body is burned and broken. Marika has a body which is broken and burned by what appears to be crystallized death flame.
Melina is probably a clonal daughter of Marika. Similar to Millicent et al being clonal daughters of Malenia.
Marika effectively rebirthed her soul through the Erdtree in order to escape imprisonment both from the Erdtree and from the Radagon personality which had been imposed on her. This is why a supposed daughter of Marika gets no mention anywhere. She's not a daughter in the typical sense and nobody has seen her except for the player and possibly Vyke.
Given all of that, Marika demonstrates a capacity for multiple manifestations, the Gloam Eyed Queen likely is/was Marika.
So Melina is the Gloam Eyed Queen in the sense that she is Marika and Marika is the Gloam Eyed Queen.
So GEQ was never killed. More than likely the imposition of the Radagon personality on Marika suppressed the GEQ manifestation. The Godskins were defeated, probably because they lost their leader in what seems to be one of many of Marika's attempts to break free from the control of the Greater Will. Being controlled her whole life and trying to break free is kinda her entire deal, it seems.
I always put it together like this:
- Pre-Shattering, Gloam Eyed Queen and Marika fight, possibly because M is a god.
- GEQ loses, and the Death she and the Godskins own are stolen and sealed (this could be why Destined Death is red/black and Black Flame is white/black, because the true power was taken from the BF, leaving it partially blank).
- At some point, M has the GEQ reborn through the Erdtree, making her a sort of daughter, but the power she holds is sealed. She is also bodiless.
- At some point M shatters the Elden Ring, and gets imprisoned. She makes Melina serve as a kindling maiden to burn the Erdtree, to either free M or sever the Greater Will from the Lands Between or whatever her goal actually was.
- Melina might have been with Vyke, maybe not. Eventually we meet up with her, though.
Another thing to note is that in the Frenzied Flame ending, Melina gets her sealed eye back and also states that she will end us with Destined Death, which implies she has her powers back.
Something I've recently thought about is the connection between Roderika and Marika. Both have same hair, *and* Hewg compare her to someone he's met before (which I personally think is Marika herself). But Roderika came over the sea, so perhaps only a distant relative?
@@prins-henrik1530 Hewg says "I saw another one like her, long ago. Their eyes share the same hue." I believe Roderika's eyes are green, and I don't think we know what color Marika's eyes are. Hewg is also terrified of Marika, so I think he would have mentioned that. Hair color is pretty important though, so maybe Roderika is just related to the Numens?
@@prins-henrik1530 Interesting. Like I mentioned, I think Marika had a lot of schemes relating to trying to free herself from her position.
Maybe Roderika is a part of one of those schemes? Maybe a failed part?
I dunno, could be interesting to spend more time on evaluating the possible connection.
In the items Lore it says that the black flames lost its original power after maliketh obtained deastined death,thats why black fales have DoT but it doesn´t reduce the HP like Deastined death effect.
You can probably do the black flame into repost if you crouch. Crouching makes the cast way faster
Melina is probably Marika's daughter(file name for her model, and she rounds out the third trio of demigod children: Godwyn/Morgott/Mohg, Ranni/Rykard/Radahn, Malenia/Miquella/Melina). Gloam Eyed Queen was a competitor of Marika to become a god, before being defeated by Maliketh. Melina might be her reincarnation(Erdtree reincarnation being weird and all) or successor to her role as guardian/wielder of destined death.
I was also working on a black flame build so glad you’re doing the work for me so I can just use what you use because I know it’ll be infinitely better. Thanks Saint!
Godskin Peeler with Loretta’s Slash on it is amazing.
Full O flame can combo into things as big as a curved greatsword r1. Can also combo into gurranqs boulder with radagons talisman even at low cast speed. Rn I'm trying to see if I can land O flame -> boulder -> beast claw rollcatch.
I feel like black flame blade would be much better if you didn’t stop moving for that split second after casting it
Same. It would also look sick.
@@saintriot it would probably be the coolest spell imo if it was just seamless casting like the rope buffs like you were saying
9:28 I've heard a few theories about Melina and the Gloam-Eyed Queen. Like how she's not her daughter, but the queen herself since she only appears to you as a spirit and her appearance is explained as a she's a younger version of herself since a queen wouldn't be a maiden.
I can attest to the statement regarding 120 invasions... It feels like 95% of the time you pop at and they're at the fog gate...
And people really seem to think 125-150 is the meta range.
Like no. Just straight up no.
For your black flame build, the Black Flame Monk chest piece looks absolutely amazing and I suggest taking a look at it!
Fun fact: blackflame blade can be cast at max speed while jumping, rolling, and running. You can use old lords talisman to buff its duration. It's essentially a non-expensive alternative to rope grease... and it has a DoT effect that can be activated on both phantom hits and ranged ashes of war. If you land multiple hits, the damage over time stacks like bloodflame blade... I've been using it with the Urumi, it's fantastic for fighting off overly defensive players that do nothing but dodge, as regardless of how many times they dodge you, the DoT still applies.
Yes. I like to jump cast it into repeating thrust. Very strong damage
I’ve been having a lot of fun with my blackflame build named: Adherent of Dark. The incantations definitely aren’t meta but they have some cool uses, scouring black flame for example randomly hits way harder sometimes but im not sure why(I suspect it has something to do with hitting two different hitboxes of the spell at once, but no proof on that). As for the god slayers greatsword, the downwards swing of the weapon art’s hit box ends while the sword is still pointing mostly into the air, so you can get a LOT more range if you free aim the downwards swing straight down. Anyways can’t wait to see what you do with the build, thanks Saint.
I'm fairly sure it's mentioned somewhere that most versions of death-flame (Ghostflame, Blackflame, Destined Death) were all once one kind of flame and that it was purple or violet on the visible light spectrum before their colour and power diminished
This has been one of my favorites since drop glad some people are catching on also another tip if you proc frostbite the noble presence doesn’t get rid of it you can inflict more damage on a boss since all their resistances will be down and stay that way if you dont have any other source of fire damage its a good way to inflict fire damage without removing frostbite
Free aiming any fireballs is so fun when you get the hang of it and it surprises so many players, they don't expect to be hit when they are far away. Giant's flame surprises them with death most of the time, lol.
The algorithm got you all fucked up, bro. It's been forever since I've been recommended any of your vids and I've always loved them. I feel like you're a very underappreciated content creator and I pray that in the future, you gain more of a following and more exposure so that the algorithm can do you some justice. Great vid as always!
aw man, i pickedup dark souls 1 again just a few weeks ago for a little bit but i had no idea return to lordran was happening. great build and great video, thanks for sharing!
I see the completed build on your channel. As soon as I'm done here I'm checking it out. First time seeing your vids and I'm enjoying it.
the black flame if I am not mistaken only draws pawer from the destined death and with it being inside Malekith now, it's lost it's god slaying properties.
I love your thematic builds, and that inspired me to do always the same thing with all 10 characters slots in all souls games. Also been playing with a black flame build, and I love it, but haven't tried noble presence like that, so gonna do it from now on
Gotta love someone that has fun with whatever is fun for them, instead of following “meta”. You have my respect🤝.
Scouring Blackflame is best used in conjunction with Blackflame Ritual.
Both of which are territory-denial style attacks. After launching a Ritual, hop out and then assess how your opponent is approaching, if they go around, chances are they cannot see you charging the Scouring spell. If they are trying to escape the ritual that's even better because most people try everything they can to get out of the ritual due to the stagger.
Honestly...we need Blackflame Combustion...
Marika plucked the rune of death from the elden ring. Thus began her reign as marika the eternal. She gave the rune of death to her shadow, maliketh, to safeguard it. On the night of the black knives a shard of the rune of death was stolen and made into the black knives
damn, looks like I'm gonna put my faith build back to work again
After a year playing elden ring I just learned that if you pop the balloon that the skeletons drop from, even if there's no skeletons on it, you get a high level golden rune. High level relative to the zone you're in. Only the 1st time you pop it I assume. I haven't tried popping the same balloon twice
5:55 and 7:10 Yes!
Very excited to see what you can do with just Black Flame stuff. BF Blade is just too little for what is required of it. Maybe if the cast was faster, longer, and the DoT was 5% HP not 2%. I just like seeing that CS on a Black Flame caster. It really takes a lot to mix the two together, stat-wise.
I use every class of fire incant on my pyro guy (Giant/BF/Madness/Blood) and I absolutely love using BF Ritual to set up a kill with BF Tornado Ash. So, I really recommend that.
Also sad that for some reason it gets worse incant scaling thann electrify, despite the short time. I'm pretty sure electrify is going to do more damage 9 times out of 10
On the other hand, it does add a large amount of AR while it's buffed. During one of his streams he checked when he was around level ~140 and it went up over 250 ar
It’s a quick cast spell tho. It’s literally amongst the fastest casting spells in the game. You do anything, just like catch flame or swift glintstone shard, and it will come out faster. If you’re really cheeky you can jump cast it, the use an ash that hits multiple times when you land and it’ll do tons of damage. I like to use it with repeating thrusts.
Have you considered Black Knife hard swap even though it deals Holy? Great ranged addition. Also, I love Flame Grant Me Strength/fire physick/Golden Vow/Godfrey Icon/Flocks Canvas with black flame builds, really carries the somewhat bad Incants especially with high Fth. Great vid as always, can't wait to see the finished build
I liked this video near the beginning and then tried to like it again when you were free throwing the black flame fire balls definitely gonna sun you’re funny
BTW all of the Godslaying nobel pieces buff the nobels presence spell not just the chest piece in their discription so using the boots or bracers will still increase its damage
The black knife really synergizes well with a black flame build. Gives a relatively quick-moving projectile that eats up HP. Makes sense to steal back the destined death that was taken from you.
It’s also hard to see you using it when you’re in the center of a black flame ritual.
It is NOT hard to see a guy literally jump ABOVE the damn flames. I swear people just be saying shit to say it.
You should try a greatsword with storm blade. Storm blade procs the Black Flame Blade DOT, and is pretty good.
Using the flame monk curved greatsword would probably look dope (if you can get the stupid thing to drop)
Storm blade's nifty like that. Did u know if u put it on the shotel the projectiles retain the shield-ignore bonus?
I also tried to do a Black Flame Blade riposte a few days ago, and I can confirm, max cast speed is not enough.
imagine landing fully charged nobles presence with two seals and noble's robe equipped (40% boost from get go without taking in consideration incant scaling) and if you also add the godfrey icon,canvas,fire scorpion talismans on top..... ufff! it is very very nasty
Idk if it's just me but I've been invading at RL 200 and 90% of my invasions lately are boss fogs, I don't know why the small area right before Radagon/Elden Beast is invadable but jesus christ I wish it wasn't, 80% of my invasions are that stupid little area, 10% are right in front of Malania, 5% are Limgrave Gankers just sitting there all day, and the last 5% is that ever sweet and oh so rare people actually exploring.
I have encountered some mohg elevator gankers who would get the invader on the elevator then use tons of aoe’s when they couldn’t run. If you didn’t go to the elevator to die a constant stream of hunters would try to kill you. And since they weren’t using the tongue it was only one invader.
best line 10:32 "did you bring your Kroger card?" :D
Just a heads up, fire based AoW like flame of the red mane, Eruption and etc. can transfer the effects of Black Flame Blades DoT, so buff a weapon with Black Flame Blade then use flames of the red man and suddenly you technically have another Black Flame incantation
Well, thanks for finding my build for me. I wanted to use the black flame but wasn't sure how to mix it up
O'Flame and Catch Flame True Combo into so many things
Catch Flame combos pretty regularly into Straight Sword Stance R2. It's not 100% perfect every time, but it's consistent enough to be considered a combo.
You definitely can change the affinity and ash of war on the godskin peeler I know because I have 2 keen godskin peelers and one of them has spinning slash on it
praise raptor of the mist because if you use it and they end up not hitting you, you can follow up with a light attack to get a crouch attack. Aka slap that baby on a UGS and if they miss you get one free big boy poke
I’ve found the best way to catch people after a backstab is to turn my back and start to walk away and then immediately r1, locking back on. Don’t give them a reason to safety roll basically.
amazing video saint, your a souls genius
"only at level 80" lol. I've only spent enough time on this build that I couldn't learned another language in that time
you can quick cast black flame blade by just casting it after crouching
Nobles presence could be buffed if you have the godskin noble chest piece on
its funny that you bring up going back to lordran, i got that same feeling when elden ring pvp clicked for me. its just Dark Souls 3 pvp with a few more fancy mechanics that look like they came from sekiro .
What a fun combination.
Thank you for making this video I only played blood born and was used to the old rolling now that I know rolling got mega buffed it all makes sense why I can never hit anything no matter the weapon advantage.
You can put Black Flame Tornado onto a peeler if you want it to be Keen or Heavy etc.
Rant ahead:
I hate the passive armor bonuses. If I have a fashion set, I will always feel as though I'm losing free damage every time I use the spell. Example Crucible incants. I don't want to have to do a Crucible knight cosplay if I want to use the incants at their fullest potential.
Reason why I'm saying this here is because -abyss shriek- *nobles presence* gets a buff from the godskin noble chestpiece (the rather _rotund_ one). Not to mention that i don't think it gets a buff from godskin seal because of the chestpiec bonus. Also it seems completely overshadowed by wrath of gold.
Free aim scouring black flame just slightly down so that the whole wave hits farther than locked on
I recently converted to black flame incantations & I gotta say the kit is nice 👌🏾. I've been combining endure from spiked caestus with noble's presence. The poise seems to stack.
Lmao, you clowned that one dude so hard he committed unalive out of shame and lack of skill
I miss elden ring pvp, I need to pick it up again
I have a lvl88 build and weapons +17 for invasions and this is the most active level in my opinion. You get invasions b2b and damage in not as ridiculous as lvl125 or above.
Blackflame Blade comes out faster after a roll, when crouching or when running Saint
it looked like you used scouring black flame to great effect in this video
i believe black flame blade also casts more quickly after a roll or attack, just like catch flame
The godslayer has a true combo with catch flame or the evolved version of it
We've been waking ppl up to fire pillars for years. Where have you been?
When charged it had some range at the end there!!!
Wrath of gold is still just a better version even without hyper armor, I want noble presence to be good but if they didn't roll directly into you on wake-up it won't hit
10:37 "From downtown!"
Its a shame that the godslayer isnt the best for that build you have. As youve discovered long ago its actually a quality weapon with a faith tax... That said, there are actually still many ways to build for it: you can go for more strength, more dex or more faith. Obviously more dex with some str will be the optimal, the minimal dex requirement with faith or str investment will still be roughly equivalent assuming similar effective stats. That said, i still think the faith scaling shouldnt have been so weak.
You can infuse the peeler...
I can't say if it's a latency thing or not, but i tried It, and seems that black flame tornado chains with full charged noble presence
I ran a black flame build recently, my fashion was ronin chest, godrick soldier gauntlets and boots, with a black knife hood, just sharing if you all would like to check this out
Ohh Kobe. All net black flame
funny enough started the exact same build a few days ago just without the godslayer sword only relying on the twinblade godskin peeler but im still not sure about black flame blade or just infusing it with flame so it scales with faith
Im going to look into it more when im off the clock but, does saint have any videos using a frenzy build? Its my current build but I am trash with the spells. I just can’t figure them out and his vids are *chef kiss*
First time doing a non pure physical build too so, maybe It just didnt click yet
A few. They’re a bit old tho so the technicalities may not apply anymore.
lore and tech, love it
Noble precence can be back stabbed
Hahahaha “kobe” got me
I'm personally a Stone of Gurranq enjoyer myself
Thank god I lost my ability to retain information just avoided so many spoilers 😭 also I temporarily respec my bloodborne hunter themed build into an arcane mage omg crazy I wanna get to sl 140 I think but it revolves around the thorn spells and Raptors cloak lol think about it
The all 6 games build!?
Ds1 was my only other souls game, I got Elden Ring just before Christmas and have 150 hours into it I'm loving it, I'm still rune level1 with plus +4 sombering weapons, I was wondering what's the best rune level to invade at with those level of armaments, live the videos keep having fun! \[T]/
Hi Saint about that infinite roll i-frames on wake up at 15:56 i think you should get roll catched with his r1 but your roll loks like it has infinite i-frames just as you said after wake up right?
Unless you’re going for the RP, why not just use Wrath of Gold. I feel like it’s superior in every way.
Do you even know who Saint is? He ALWAYS goes for the rp over efficiency or min/max’ing.
@@Thunderlord_Tozn I see, that’s dope. I wish my brain functioned like that lol
One you beat Godskin Duo, you get Black Flame Tornado. So you can infuse the Peeler Keen and keep the Ash.
you think he doesn't know?
@@cridus_ he doesn’t mention it in the video. So you’re guess is as good as mine
@@darkknight57691 he specifically said getting the ash *early* making me believe that he hasn't been to faram yet with the character
2:38 what's in your left hand? I don't recognize this item icon
165 i think is the sweetspot you want to invade as low as 150 and up to 200!
You won’t get up to 200 at that level, most you’d get is like 180-185.
@@Thunderlord_Tozn my bad
@@sambellware5810 what? 165 can invade 149-202
Okay I feel like a goofball for asking, but where are the return to events even posted. I feel like every time I hear about it it's different than when I thought it be.
noble presence is fire
This is some high level geekery. I love it l!
Not only you get infinite I frames on recovery from a knockdown but if you're a STRONK, BIG heavy roller you will mid roll out of a knockdown for free!
Ew.
I, too, can not get scouring black flame to work good in fights, pve and pvp. And I want it to work so bad because it looks cool. But that rising movement of the flame is my bane
I find quite fun to use on pvp and against bosses.
I hit like for the free throw fireballs. sick shit.
Yeah I feel oh flame combos into most things
hey saint riot, it's youtube. i think you might enjoy catch flame into square off rollcatch
I broke a bone in my hand on Christmas Eve and I’ve been playing with a cast on my hand. I really wish I could convey to my opponent that I beat them with bulky cast on my hand