Yup! and you’re kids will remember their mother as depressed and miserable, as I remember my mother. She stayed for us but died at 61. I believe the stress of my dad killed her, and know what, now he has a new girlfriend. I pray to never end up like her. 🙏🏽
Maybe because the problem is the choice in partner. Not the structure of the thinking.... a lot of women have good partners that have that mentality too. We just only hear the bad stories
@@teri_p I just went to the Ja Rule, Ashanti, Nelly and Lil Jon concert in Oakland. And Gotti was disrespectful then to his wife and kids ……20 years later talking about an affair from young Ashanti (20-23) he was an OLD ASS MAN with wife kids and the record deals. No respect for him. These WOMEN HELD GOTTI DOWN.
This is not true, I feel it was him being a beta male trying to transform into ALPHA because he was able to bag Ashanti off the Vapors💨 and favors he got super gassed ⛽️ and messed up
@@jasminejohnson6038 And that’s all, has nothing to do with him loving Ashanti. You are right. She moved on and didn’t fold. Unfortunately his wife did. She has never moved on because he wouldn’t allow it.
Thank God for therapy! It's what rescued Deb from a life of disrespect, and misery. Irv's parents have no respect for Deb's heart, mental state, emotional state, soul, or her life. Be very careful the type of people you choose to procreate with and their family.
Deb resembles Tammy... Waka Flocka wife and it's so sad that both of them are beautiful loyal women that was cheated on... It doesn't matter how you look and how much you hold a man down its never good enough for some men.
Then how do you explain him chasing Ashley Martelle, Hannah Palmer or Val Mercado? He pretty much is an equal-opportunity dater who goes after whoever he is attracted to. They could be White, Latina or Black -- as long as they're beautiful, Irv is gonna try to holla.
@@leagueG5 I explain it by saying I don’t know the mans whole social security number like you! Tf! 🥴😭 Were you one of those women? Lol Anyway! The man has a type
@@pureintentions9290 No, I'm one of the dudes who helped edit film scenes on Tales. His girlfriends would visit set. Not interested in knowing his ss number. Ya boy got A1 credit. 💯
Irv's kids gone see this when they get older and resent him for it, I'm not saying hate him or stop loving him, but when you treat a childs mother that way it'll fuck them up. Russell told him straight and I'm glad he didn't mix his words.
It was hard to see the eldest daughter upset, really all their kids that their parents couldn’t make it work. Seeing chatty party Irv in 2022, I hope Deb is living her best life!!!!!!
We have to start asking ourselves why do we want someone back that really doesn’t give a damn about me or my feelings. And don’t give me that “oh he cares about her” no that’s no caring or love! This is when you love someone more than you love yourself.
He already admitted to being in love with Ashanti! It's hard to watch this knowing he was probably thinking about Ashanti the whole time. He is still obsessed with her til this day..
Ashanti doesn't even like him, nor does she want him, but his wife is begging Irv because of their children... He didn't live in their family home for 7 years plus 👀 but talks about tradition. Smh
7 years of SEPARATION…that marriage is dead. How can they not support her moving forward or GET ON THEIR SONS HEAD to grow up. 7 years?! I know I’m late but that’s horrible
One line that Deb said on this show that I tell my husband till this day. Irv asked her something and she said I gave you these kids your paid and full.
She couldn't stop Irv from cheating on her before Ashanti or after Ashanti, I just don't know why she was and still is blaming Ashanti!!! Plus everyone that was around back then knows that they were separated, Irv is just an disrespectful Person!!!!!! Thats All.
@Bold&Black MuvA Thats What You Say, However Irv Gotti Did and Still Does Believe Ashanti Is And Was Better!!!!, He is the one Thats Still Talking About Ashanti And Not His Wife!!!! And I'm Not Disrespecting Her I'm Just Stating Facts By Irv's Behavior And The Words Thats Coming Out Of His Mouth!!!! Not Mine On Anyone Else's Mouth !!!! We all Want Him To Shut Up And Stop Talking About Ashanti And Stop Being Disrespectful To His Ex Wife And His Kids!!!!!, Enough Said!!!!!.
She never blamed ashanti. Everyone else was blaming her. A lot of ppl didn't watch his show. They new school kids never seen this. I remember this he wasn't living with her. They wasn't together. And ppl keep going back and forth. They just never divorced and he was ok with being separated. And he wasn't sleeping with her
@@victorialove3463 she did not him... she did and she didn't break them up that had nothing to do with her they were separated when they started dealing
And folks they were separated!!! There u have it. And they pretty much been separated as she said for basically 7 years it's been this way. This show was before a lot of yalls time. So I remember it. He wasn't living there and they were separated. He came by to see the kids and they didn't even have sex. Also in another episode he wanted to sell the house and get a new house but she didn't want him to sell the house cuz at this time things wasn't flowing how it use to. He wasn't broke but their house was paid for. And Deb said no to no more debt when they house was paid for. She also didn't have to work. He took care of their family. He did things this was cuz how he grew up. So he stayed around for their kids. Ashanti was never the reason for thwir split up. They been sit up for 7 years even in this show they were separated.
Why did Irv marry her if he didn’t care that much? I don’t get it. It’s one thing to sleep with and impregnate someone and leave cuz triph people been doing that but why did he marry her just to act single? Is he a narc? She’s beautiful and seems nice
@@angholloway5091 yeah but this lady is actually beautiful too. She just isn’t dressed for show biz but imagine her dolled up. Plus that’s shallow. He was already married to her when he dated Ashanti so he cheated. Glad Ashanti played him now he is crying because she cheated on him with Nelly and left him in prison. He left some one that loves him for some one that was using him as a career advancement tool.
@@angholloway5091 Deb is beautiful naturally. Is that a good excuse to go outside your marriage because the other person is “beautiful” ? Granted Deb said that they were separated but it’s obvious that Irv’s been messing around before Ashanti came in the picture anyway.
He was infatuated with Ashanti, Ashanti is a player, she always been, she's a woman playboy. She doesn't love these niggas, or men, they love her. She get to that bag and move on. She doesn't do long term relationships, she doesn't like being held down. No kids or husband, she may even be bisexual. Her lover might be a stud. Idk but she is a free spirit and doesn't play with these ninjas.
It’s obviously that he didn’t love his wife like that at all. They shouldn’t even have gotten married. She’s beautiful and she seems to be on the inside. I hope she found or will get a better man who really loves her.
@@nea415 period. This is why us Black women are okay being single. And men think we are “bitter” and “die alone” and it’s like…wow. Or what die knowing a man like Irv hated you, but loved someone else and has no issues saying he did, but never talks about the love he has for you? This is crazy and some black men are very delusional
The fact that Irv’s parents have been married for 52 years and he grew up with seeing that example and he treats Deb like trash is horrible!
Yet, it seems like there’s a possibility his mom “could have” turned a blind eye to some things based on their way of thinking..
I hate parents who don’t hold their children accountable. I can’t deal with people like that and I’m not taking the blame for someone else’s actions.
The problem with that "old-school values" bullshit is that the wife always ends up suffering in the end.
Yup! and you’re kids will remember their mother as depressed and miserable, as I remember my mother. She stayed for us but died at 61. I believe the stress of my dad killed her, and know what, now he has a new girlfriend. I pray to never end up like her. 🙏🏽
Maybe because the problem is the choice in partner. Not the structure of the thinking.... a lot of women have good partners that have that mentality too. We just only hear the bad stories
Deb went through a lot with this man I truly wish her the best God Bless 💜💙💚💙💜
A wife is the most important part of a man’s life. She is his greatest treasure. Nothing else should come before her.
I have so much respect for the wife…. Then and NOW.
Really how come?
@@teri_p I just went to the Ja Rule, Ashanti, Nelly and Lil Jon concert in Oakland. And Gotti was disrespectful then to his wife and kids ……20 years later talking about an affair from young Ashanti (20-23) he was an OLD ASS MAN with wife kids and the record deals. No respect for him. These WOMEN HELD GOTTI DOWN.
Me too I love Deb she is beautiful Irv Gotti is a idiot for cheatin on her
She put up with a lot.
I don't. She doesn't even respect herself.
Irv is a good woman’s greatest fear 🤦🏽♀️
This is not true, I feel it was him being a beta male trying to transform into ALPHA because he was able to bag Ashanti off the Vapors💨 and favors he got super gassed ⛽️ and messed up
Love this
Could you explain what you mean by this
well said!
Good girls love bad guys you didn't know that 🤔🤔
He seems to have loved Ashanti more. 20 yrs later, you can still see the hurt in his eyes. I hope Deb found someone better.
Cuz she couldn’t be “KEPT”. As beautiful a person deb seemed, women like her always get the short end with dudes like irv.
@@kenyak2959 yep shes the "one that got away"
@@jasminejohnson6038 And that’s all, has nothing to do with him loving Ashanti. You are right. She moved on and didn’t fold. Unfortunately his wife did. She has never moved on because he wouldn’t allow it.
@@kenyak2959 yep, it’s easier to love the chick that don’t come with responsibilities. She’s the one who got away.
Deb is a natural beauty not a scrap of makeup
Facts
But not more beautiful than ashanti!!!
Right, Deb is absolutely gorgeous. 😍
You are too!
Both women are very beautiful!!! Ashanti with out makeup is also very beautiful.
Thank God for therapy! It's what rescued Deb from a life of disrespect, and misery. Irv's parents have no respect for Deb's heart, mental state, emotional state, soul, or her life. Be very careful the type of people you choose to procreate with and their family.
Whos here after the drink champs lmao
RUclips’s analytic model is superb.
When reality tv was the shyt and errthang wasnt fake for SHOW
Im so happy Ded figured out what was best for her
Wish she would have figured that out before marrying him and having his kids but what’s done is done.
Breaking generational curses is so important. Deb went down the same path as her mother.
👏👏👏👏
Deb resembles Tammy... Waka Flocka wife and it's so sad that both of them are beautiful loyal women that was cheated on... It doesn't matter how you look and how much you hold a man down its never good enough for some men.
His mother was annoying. She was making excuses for him. I’d never want her for a mother-in-law.🙃
honestly most moms do this. taking son’s side. it’s crazy to me
Man it’s time to rewatch this lol
Lmmfao Riiiggghhhtttt 😂😂😂😂
What channel was it on
Rewatch it why it's old
Lol, he had this beautiful loyal woman and he was chasing after Ashanti playa ass 😭
Irv Gotti, you ain't shit and you Deb, are such a beautiful woman. You deserve so much better. I think happy would look so amazing on you.
Irv Is A Guy Who Has A Very Fragile Ego. He Hides Behind This Gangster Persona.
Irv has a type. Ashanti has the same type of features his wife has. I pray his wife found peace 💙
Thats what I was thinking
Then how do you explain him chasing Ashley Martelle, Hannah Palmer or Val Mercado? He pretty much is an equal-opportunity dater who goes after whoever he is attracted to. They could be White, Latina or Black -- as long as they're beautiful, Irv is gonna try to holla.
@@leagueG5 I explain it by saying I don’t know the mans whole social security number like you! Tf! 🥴😭 Were you one of those women? Lol Anyway! The man has a type
@@pureintentions9290 No, I'm one of the dudes who helped edit film scenes on Tales. His girlfriends would visit set. Not interested in knowing his ss number. Ya boy got A1 credit. 💯
@@leagueG5 Gotcha’
& Good luck with your career 🦋💯 sounds great.
Irv's kids gone see this when they get older and resent him for it, I'm not saying hate him or stop loving him, but when you treat a childs mother that way it'll fuck them up. Russell told him straight and I'm glad he didn't mix his words.
No they’ll be happpy their father was a successful man
@@MallLaSoulyou sound ridiculous
Never life off of a man. Always have something going for yourself so that if you need to leave you can leave.
Please correct your sentence please .
True, I think some men resent women who depend on them totally.
His wife was sweet, friendly & submissive , and he still F it Up
It was hard to see the eldest daughter upset, really all their kids that their parents couldn’t make it work. Seeing chatty party Irv in 2022, I hope Deb is living her best life!!!!!!
I would love to see what she’s up to now
Chatty Irv 😂
He ain't shit because of his parents.
We have to start asking ourselves why do we want someone back that really doesn’t give a damn about me or my feelings. And don’t give me that “oh he cares about her” no that’s no caring or love! This is when you love someone more than you love yourself.
He already admitted to being in love with Ashanti! It's hard to watch this knowing he was probably thinking about Ashanti the whole time. He is still obsessed with her til this day..
Ashanti doesn't even like him, nor does she want him, but his wife is begging Irv because of their children... He didn't live in their family home for 7 years plus 👀 but talks about tradition. Smh
7 years of SEPARATION…that marriage is dead. How can they not support her moving forward or GET ON THEIR SONS HEAD to grow up. 7 years?! I know I’m late but that’s horrible
Late or not, you spoke truth.
For real tho if one year passed and he still doing the same eff that I'm out
I bet she was staying faithful too
Couldn't be me
He was about to say that he'll sacrifice his family in the first 10 seconds but he switched it up 💯
I remember this. She felt trapped in her home 🏡.
Deb was/is fine! Wtf is wrong wit IG?!
They find out later in life
Show me a beautiful woman & I'll show a man that's tired of f'n her. Truth of life.
Gotti is a fat biscuit of a man who has a self inflated ego.
He was having an affair with Ashanti
All these men like Irv, Diddy, Jim Jones don’t know a good thing when they have it. They take sexy over beauty which is so immature. 😕
I had a feeling this was going to start popping up on the feed
Im just noticing Deb and Ashanti look alike slightly. Something around the eyes/eyebrows and cheeks.
I don't see it
No they dont!
One line that Deb said on this show that I tell my husband till this day. Irv asked her something and she said I gave you these kids your paid and full.
Irv Don't Want Deb To Move On. He Likes Having Her Stuck. That Is So Selfish And A Form Of Abuse.
Desire for power is addictive and dangerous
Now He's lonely and complaining about women in their 20's only wanting his money.
He hit that wall HARD!
Plastered all over It.
Oh the golden years of reality TV! This was a pretty good show.
She couldn't stop Irv from cheating on her before Ashanti or after Ashanti, I just don't know why she was and still is blaming Ashanti!!! Plus everyone that was around back then knows that they were separated, Irv is just an disrespectful Person!!!!!! Thats All.
@Bold&Black MuvA Thats What You Say, However Irv Gotti Did and Still Does Believe Ashanti Is And Was Better!!!!, He is the one Thats Still Talking About Ashanti And Not His Wife!!!! And I'm Not Disrespecting Her I'm Just Stating Facts By Irv's Behavior And The Words Thats Coming Out Of His Mouth!!!! Not Mine On Anyone Else's Mouth !!!! We all Want Him To Shut Up And Stop Talking About Ashanti And Stop Being Disrespectful To His Ex Wife And His Kids!!!!!, Enough Said!!!!!.
She never blamed ashanti. Everyone else was blaming her. A lot of ppl didn't watch his show. They new school kids never seen this. I remember this he wasn't living with her. They wasn't together. And ppl keep going back and forth. They just never divorced and he was ok with being separated. And he wasn't sleeping with her
@@tearrahramsey1986 Yes she did, go back and watch growing up hip hop NY, And will hear it for yourself.
@@victorialove3463 she did not him... she did and she didn't break them up that had nothing to do with her they were separated when they started dealing
We don't know the behind the scenes, what she probably saw in his phone. She probably confronted Ashanti and she probably didn't stop.
I wonder what happened to Sonny. They never show him on Growing Up Hip Hop NY but they show his Irv & the rest of the family.
RandomBlackGamer i knw i was wondering the same. They did show him for a second at jjs birthday but that was it
He was with Gotti on Drink Champs.
IRV definitely has a TYPE & he definitely fell for ashanti.
Irv was on that Manosphere red pill ish!
His poor ex wife, I hope she found peace and happiness.
He did Deb so bad….
Happiness should never be just your kids f that ..muse deserves happiness of her own
I used to believe that but it’s not worth it. Kids may not fare better when they live in a toxic space…
She looks just like that girl that got locked up for killing that man then got out.... Cyntonia.. I think that's her name
Love the relationship Gotti and Russell have
Gotti should have had that relationship with his wife and kids
They probably shared a tub of Vaseline at some point in time.
He name should be I ain't shit.
And folks they were separated!!! There u have it. And they pretty much been separated as she said for basically 7 years it's been this way. This show was before a lot of yalls time. So I remember it. He wasn't living there and they were separated. He came by to see the kids and they didn't even have sex. Also in another episode he wanted to sell the house and get a new house but she didn't want him to sell the house cuz at this time things wasn't flowing how it use to. He wasn't broke but their house was paid for. And Deb said no to no more debt when they house was paid for. She also didn't have to work. He took care of their family. He did things this was cuz how he grew up. So he stayed around for their kids. Ashanti was never the reason for thwir split up. They been sit up for 7 years even in this show they were separated.
He didn't know what he had right in front of him
I forgot how good this show was😲
I forgot how young they were when they had this show.
Debbie moms is jamaican and Angelique is MY GOD DAUGHTER!
😒😒
What?
Is deb mixed race
How can I get Season 1?
I’m thinking the same thing can’t watch season 2 I feel like I have missed out
I’m thinking the same thing can’t watch season 2 I feel like I have missed out
I have season 1 on DVD but I'm not sure if I should upload that
This show is actually good I'm glad it's available
Why did Irv marry her if he didn’t care that much? I don’t get it. It’s one thing to sleep with and impregnate someone and leave cuz triph people been doing that but why did he marry her just to act single? Is he a narc? She’s beautiful and seems nice
Ashanti is beautiful that's why irv was seeing her on the side!!!
He’s doing this because he wants to have his cake and eat it too sad selfish life hopefully he sees the light sooner than later.
@@angholloway5091 yeah but this lady is actually beautiful too. She just isn’t dressed for show biz but imagine her dolled up. Plus that’s shallow. He was already married to her when he dated Ashanti so he cheated. Glad Ashanti played him now he is crying because she cheated on him with Nelly and left him in prison. He left some one that loves him for some one that was using him as a career advancement tool.
Because some men want to lock a woman down so no other man can claim her. Meanwhile he’s doing whatever he wants out in the streets
@@angholloway5091 Deb is beautiful naturally. Is that a good excuse to go outside your marriage because the other person is “beautiful” ?
Granted Deb said that they were separated but it’s obvious that Irv’s been messing around before Ashanti came in the picture anyway.
I'm just now seeing this 🤣🤣
I use to watch this show
Loved this Show
Well gotti never got his 2nd run...yet...I doubt he will it's really hard in hip hop....he's lucky enough to have the 4 or 5 year run he did
He was infatuated with Ashanti, Ashanti is a player, she always been, she's a woman playboy. She doesn't love these niggas, or men, they love her. She get to that bag and move on. She doesn't do long term relationships, she doesn't like being held down. No kids or husband, she may even be bisexual. Her lover might be a stud. Idk but she is a free spirit and doesn't play with these ninjas.
Lol how u know
@@ashleyskitchen6711 No one really knows just my opinion
She was with Nelly for 10 years and broke up because he didn't want to marry. Yep sounds like a real playa... Now she's pregnant with Nelly baby 🧐
Nelly married Ashanti 6 months ago it was just announced
Deb I Hope You Got Your
Life!!!
It’s obviously that he didn’t love his wife like that at all. They shouldn’t even have gotten married. She’s beautiful and she seems to be on the inside. I hope she found or will get a better man who really loves her.
Love Irv's honesty...Most just can't swallow it whole!
They swallow it by not putting up with it.
He can be for the streets then stay there.
Didn't know he had a show back in the day. This was before Russell did 🧘♂️ yoga .
he is almost like steve jobs, like obsessed at all costs. shes trying to change a foul person who is on a mission nothing you can do .
His Wife is a strong beautiful woman
I use to love this show
This makes since now...he wanted Ashanti. Smh
This right here must have inspired Ashanti's hit song Unfoolish
murder inc supporter since day 1💃
14:17 An UNDERSTANDING is NOT a happy, healthy marriage...it's just a long marriage.😧🥴
Anyone know what Deb is doing now? And has she moved on to someone else?
Deb's doing amazing. She has a dope hat line that's sold in Nordstrom's and a few other high end retail stores.
Nobody is watching this ish,he was miserable back then and he still is miserable now!
selfish mutha%^$%^&
Glad to find this always been a Murder Inc fan with Ja n Ashanti,Dark man X !!!!
Blame Ashanti. That dominican kitty hit different
I love Irvs parents
However it seems like they want her to except Irvs cheating
They just old school. You don’t break up the family no matter what, because family trumps all.
That’s because they’re trash just like their son.
@@2jcward Happiness should trump all
@@nea415 period. This is why us Black women are okay being single. And men think we are “bitter” and “die alone” and it’s like…wow. Or what die knowing a man like Irv hated you, but loved someone else and has no issues saying he did, but never talks about the love he has for you? This is crazy and some black men are very delusional
His ex wife is so beautiful 🤩 I hope she found better I hate these dudes real men are rare these days
I love me some IRV! True Cancer ♋️
thank you
Lol why y'all keep calling Ashanti a player in these comments... What I miss??
Where’s season 1
Irv Gotti is brilliant and an entertainment genius
Facts
Nope she said am out..and left there was no reason for her to know yr worth..
This was a great show
She's beautiful
I like Irv but this is embarrassing. He should get this taken down before his kids watch it.
Im a huge fan of Irv and Murda Inc
14:59, Irv said what he is doing. What is the denial???
Hate the way this girl talks with that half smirk
How am I just finding out about this show?
She favors Ashanti …… A LOT!!!😳😳😳
No
What ethnic background is Irvs father? Just curious.
This show was hard to watch
Damm I thought Irv was black damm lol
What's Deb's race?
Why does it matter 😂
Deb fine .. irv is a clown
irv had a good woman smh