It's interesting to hear Caps armor described as "scalemail" I always thought of it as invoking the feathers of an eagle. Very interesting, excellent work gentlemen!
Sam's Captain America suit was hands down the best looking in my opinion and with his new shield design incorporating Falcons symbol with the star is awesome. 10/10
53:19 so fun fact about this suit it’s actually from a Marvel mobile game, Contest of Champions, it’s an OC character called Civil Warrior and has the exact same design except has the classic shield with an arc reactor center piece so he can do special moves and have a uni-beam attack Came out during the Cap Civil War movie as a tie in event new character. It’s supposed to be Steve in an Iron Man suit and I guess cause Marvel owns the design they decided to use it in Secret Empire
They mention evil Hydra Cap dead and nevercreturing and 1 month later he is back in Uncanny Avengers #1, but this time as Captain Krakoa. No one stays dead permanently in the Marvel Universe.
Hey I know this is a bit of a late comment but if you search up “Captain America White Skull”, you can see him wearing a modernized version of the exoskeleton that has the weird visor - when he rescued the skull.
If I were to put Captain America back into the Nomad identity, I would make his suit more Old west or frontiersman looking. I’d Old Man Logan the hell out of that costume. Give cap a duster, a black tank top with a spray painted on white star, some military surplus camo pants in like an olive drab, some cowboy boots and then accessorize him with a sawed off shotgun. That would be the perfect Nomad costume
I liked the Marvel Now update of Cap's costume (Hickman's Avengers run) it was more armored and tactical looking. Love his classic costume but that Hickman's run costume still kept the same aesthetic as the classic but made it modern. I'm a helmet guy now as opposed to Cap having a cowl.
So, slight precision - Captain America wasn't truly retired after WW2. Publication ceased because sales of every superhero books took a nose-dive after WWII, but he did have a bunch of "specials" in the 50s... extremely cringy, paranoid "red scare" comics. Stan Lee and collaborators came up with the "stuck in ice" idea specifically to make these 50s comics non-canon. They were recanonized years later as being a different who got given a flawed recreation of the super-soldier serum and went mad. He popped up as a villain a few times over the years, notably in Brubaker's run.
A Cap book that Sal and Joel should also review is Jack Kirby's "Captain America's Bicentennial Battles." Along with a time travel storyline, it includes a collection of period costume designs that gave dramatically different looks that I found more challenging than the costumes displayed on this installment. Another great one, guys...
Great video. The Nomad costume would've looked better if the exposed skin area was covered with fabric the same color as the inside of the cape. Also, Wolverine's costume is brown and tan like an actual Wolverine animal. Superman didn't wear a mullet. It was just long hair. If it's short/low on the sides and short/low or buzzed on top then it's a mullet.
I'm a big fan of Classic Cap, so a lot of the redesigns don't work for me. That being said, I love the Ultimate WWII suit with the helmet and heater shield. The Marvel Now suit was a decent modernized version of the Classic. I hope to see Captain America in Dimension Z on Back Issues someday.
Never could find a good place to ask this: what is the intent behind relatively recent costume designs having excessive seams/piping? They'd seem redundant if they get lost in motion or in a dynamic scene, or in disparate art direction?
You are 100% on with the Kenner dress up Bruce Wayne toys in regards to Alex Ross. That said, both his Bucky and Spidey are in my top twos for either character. If you've seen his X-Men, it's.. he goes with a simple style and loves black. Consequently, I can't help but be a sucker for his concepts.
you missed one costume. Steve wore a very basic costume stripped off of all american flag parts and a different mask and an orange laser-shield during the storyline "Enemy of the state". That was also the storyline which featured a very buff Bill Clinton actually using the Captain America shield, and shirtless Steve Rogers having a smalltalk with Dr. Doom
@@comicpopreturns Do you mean “who cares what I have to say”, or, “who cares that I have a different opinion”? The former would be mean; the latter would be ideal.
It's interesting to hear Caps armor described as "scalemail" I always thought of it as invoking the feathers of an eagle. Very interesting, excellent work gentlemen!
To be fair feathers ARE highly modified scales. So it's accurate either way
@@logansmith2703Exactly! That's how paleontologist determined that birds and dinosaurs were related...
@@logansmith2703 I can't argue with the facts!
The big suit you missed was the marvel now design which he wore in dimension z
Sam's Captain America suit was hands down the best looking in my opinion and with his new shield design incorporating Falcons symbol with the star is awesome. 10/10
53:19 so fun fact about this suit it’s actually from a Marvel mobile game, Contest of Champions, it’s an OC character called Civil Warrior and has the exact same design except has the classic shield with an arc reactor center piece so he can do special moves and have a uni-beam attack
Came out during the Cap Civil War movie as a tie in event new character. It’s supposed to be Steve in an Iron Man suit and I guess cause Marvel owns the design they decided to use it in Secret Empire
Please do more costume reviews!
I'd love to see a Green Arrow episode
the dozens of Arrowheads would watch
They mention evil Hydra Cap dead and nevercreturing and 1 month later he is back in Uncanny Avengers #1, but this time as Captain Krakoa. No one stays dead permanently in the Marvel Universe.
Nice to see Joel back on the channel.
Hey I know this is a bit of a late comment but if you search up “Captain America White Skull”, you can see him wearing a modernized version of the exoskeleton that has the weird visor - when he rescued the skull.
The boys are back in town ... The classic duo is back
Joel saying going off my gut and my heart is the most American he has ever sounded
If I were to put Captain America back into the Nomad identity, I would make his suit more Old west or frontiersman looking. I’d Old Man Logan the hell out of that costume. Give cap a duster, a black tank top with a spray painted on white star, some military surplus camo pants in like an olive drab, some cowboy boots and then accessorize him with a sawed off shotgun. That would be the perfect Nomad costume
I loved the Marvel now suit. It was a perfect blend of traditional Cap and Ultimate Cap.
I don’t think the eagle forehead hurt the costume that much.
I don't think it would work for Steve but I really like the Bucky Cap suit. It helps that I had a toy of him.
I liked the Marvel Now update of Cap's costume (Hickman's Avengers run) it was more armored and tactical looking. Love his classic costume but that Hickman's run costume still kept the same aesthetic as the classic but made it modern. I'm a helmet guy now as opposed to Cap having a cowl.
Jack Monroe wore an updated Nomad costume in the 80’s. It was actually a cool redesign by either Mike Zeck or Paul Neary. I can’t remember which.
So, slight precision - Captain America wasn't truly retired after WW2. Publication ceased because sales of every superhero books took a nose-dive after WWII, but he did have a bunch of "specials" in the 50s... extremely cringy, paranoid "red scare" comics. Stan Lee and collaborators came up with the "stuck in ice" idea specifically to make these 50s comics non-canon. They were recanonized years later as being a different who got given a flawed recreation of the super-soldier serum and went mad. He popped up as a villain a few times over the years, notably in Brubaker's run.
A Cap book that Sal and Joel should also review is Jack Kirby's "Captain America's Bicentennial Battles." Along with a time travel storyline, it includes a collection of period costume designs that gave dramatically different looks that I found more challenging than the costumes displayed on this installment. Another great one, guys...
you can tell Joel is Canadian because he drink Tim Hortons coffee
He needs some Tim Bits with that coffee
They gave the Agent Steve suit to Nick Fury Jr. for a while. So it did spin off pretty well to another character.
More classic Joel episodes! They are the best and I miss them!
Sorry we're letting you down with our DAMN good interviews.
Just rewatched the Batman multiverse suits episode yesterday, perfect timing!
Great video. The Nomad costume would've looked better if the exposed skin area was covered with fabric the same color as the inside of the cape. Also, Wolverine's costume is brown and tan like an actual Wolverine animal. Superman didn't wear a mullet. It was just long hair. If it's short/low on the sides and short/low or buzzed on top then it's a mullet.
I'm a big fan of Classic Cap, so a lot of the redesigns don't work for me. That being said, I love the Ultimate WWII suit with the helmet and heater shield. The Marvel Now suit was a decent modernized version of the Classic. I hope to see Captain America in Dimension Z on Back Issues someday.
Never could find a good place to ask this: what is the intent behind relatively recent costume designs having excessive seams/piping? They'd seem redundant if they get lost in motion or in a dynamic scene, or in disparate art direction?
Fuck yeah a prozd enjoyer
A question was brought to my mind who was dead longer captain America or superman
The best distillation of cap 2as the emh suit. With the implied buccaneer boots.
Am I the only one who called John Walker as US A-Hole?
Secret avengers cap logo is the same as the falcon captain america suit
Alex Summers could rock the Nomad costume.
You are 100% on with the Kenner dress up Bruce Wayne toys in regards to Alex Ross. That said, both his Bucky and Spidey are in my top twos for either character. If you've seen his X-Men, it's.. he goes with a simple style and loves black. Consequently, I can't help but be a sucker for his concepts.
Ears getting caught in something doesn't make sense. That's like saying having hair will be a great liability.
I would love a wolverine costume ranks
Love it!
Joel is Back!!!🎉🎉🎉
you missed one costume. Steve wore a very basic costume stripped off of all american flag parts and a different mask and an orange laser-shield during the storyline "Enemy of the state".
That was also the storyline which featured a very buff Bill Clinton actually using the Captain America shield, and shirtless Steve Rogers having a smalltalk with Dr. Doom
MERICA! F🤬&K YEAH!
An EE episode idea I’d love to see is skeletons & robots in comics!
Can wait you to do that for other hero like Green Arrow
Why not?
Steve decided getting the power to become Captain America
Clark accepted the power of being Superman
Let’s gooooo 0:08
Is this supposed to be released in 4th of July? 😊
Nope
I really like the Alex Ross suit but I can see why it gets it’s criticism
I just want to say it wasn't Stan Lee's idea to add cap to the avengers it was definitely Jack Kirby
Link?
i have never used the letter grade system, only percentages lmao ( i live in ny)
I don’t like buccaneer boots or superhero briefs (on Superman, but ESPECIALLY on Batman).
Am I a bad comic book fan?
Who cares?
@@comicpopreturns Do you mean “who cares what I have to say”, or, “who cares that I have a different opinion”?
The former would be mean; the latter would be ideal.
Wow miss the elseworlds exchange
I love these 🎉
Thank you for the Birthday Wishes, love you guys. Stay cool!