Saw two this morning, lashed up in a light power move, passing through downtown Pittsburgh on their way to Conway Yard. I said out loud "what the heck are those?" Seeing them the day they were revealed...they're very cool!
+Metra MP36 407 Despite all what you are saying they are not exactly green technology........they are still burning fossil fuels. So in the long shot it's not sustainable, and definately not enviromentally friendly.....yeah railroads are by far more ecological than road transport (half more than 50% of the traffic and only roughly 25% of the CO2 emissions in the US) but it's still burning Diesel fuel.....thus still pumping out more emissions than an electro. If the Switch was made to electrification, there could be a lot more CO2, Nitrous Oxide and soot emissions be saved. And that would really improve air quality........
Or 6 brand new Genset RP22C made by RJ Corman that are the most fuel efficient locomotives ever because, they break down so often that they end up parked. True story.
Looks like our country's trains are starting to catch up a bit with trains in other countries, being more eco-friendly. First, I saw the Grand Canyon Railway begin regularly fueling one of their steam locomotives with waste vegetable oil, and now I see the Norfolk Southern give classic locomotives modern technology to make them more eco-friendly. These are good signs. :)
This is where innovation happens, the private sector. If green tech is going to make it, green tech has to turn a profit and be affordable without all the tax.
The other reply is wrong. It started before this actual manifestation when NS sought to take its tiny fleet of GP 59's which NS was the only purchaser of (2500hp) and began rebuilding those specifically for the Chicago area in a joint arrangement that upgraded them to tier 2 and also with microprocessor control and engine management. Also having a nominal fleet of GP 50's (3500 hp), NS began seeking out if these also could be involved in a similar smog reduction program. The first engines became ECOGP22's (eco rated 2200 hp) and that was largely obtained by removing the turbo chargers and reworking the entire exhaust system for a re-burn for emission reduction. The GP 50's however timed really well with EMD releasing an actual tier 3 - 710 prime mover which was/is largely applied to passenger locomotives but also made for a perfect fit into these. OF NOTE: NO NS GP 50 WAS ORIGINALLY LOW NOSE. All new ADMIRAL cabs were fashioned and have a distinct 71 inch nose. Also in cab are -3 rated electronics and microprocessor engine management systems as well as a much updated and improved electrical cabinet. These were down rated BUT THE ALTERNATORS WERE UPGRADED SUBSTANTIALLY TO A D87 AND THE TRACTION MOTORS ALSO A NEW VERSION TO MATCH. With those 2 items not only did these all become universal across the system as far as those 2 parts, but also it created a much greater traction with less HP. This 2nd incarnation of NS rebuild is known as ECO GP33 (3300 HP down from 3500). Also of note: IN BOTH CASES these are all MATED and in several cases are mated with a CALF aka SLUG. You can determine if its a POWER/POWER set or a POWER/SLUG set simply by looking for the joining and ALL THE CABLES or not. NOTE: The power/slug sets are ALL yard assigned and at hump locations. Inman yard Atlanta has some of these. The powered sets are all on the road in short haul switching assignments around several major cities = ATLANTA + CHICAGO. NS has maybe 50 GP 50's and so far 26 have been in this program. ROME GA also has 1 set that handles ALL the local jobs there. I see a set running out of Forest Park to the East Point yard almost daily. According to trains magazine the amount of emissions in each rendition is severely reduced. In the Eco GP 22 its maybe 50% (or less) of an original GP40-2 and in the case of the ECO GP 33 its maybe 20%. OF NOTE: FLARED RADIATORS VERY SD 45 ISH. One major change in these is the way the cooling system works and in some cases it works in REVERSE. In that case it acts as a hot water reservoir that PRE WARMS THE FUEL FOR COLD START. These engines are designed to be shut off DAILY which is a major alteration for any EMD product and why NS opted out of just buying these as EMD rebuilds and chose to redesign and build them in house. Any guy who ever has been faced with cold starting an EMD locomotive, well you can loose your religion fast. The other side of the cooling system is that is is ITEM SEPARATED. There is now a radiator on each side assigned to specific cooling tasks for a DUAL COOL system. Finally, NS did all this on its own initiative without being harassed into it. There are also several other NS rebuild projects going on and 1 major one is taking 70 series engines and rebuilding them with ALL NEW SELF STEERING TRUCKS, + changing them into AC traction. These are marked by an ELECTRIC BLUE added to the paint scheme. Several were done at Chattanooga Shops and others are at Juniata each with its own version of the electric blue. Juniata has a HORSE MANE feature added into the paint scheme on the sides while the Chattanooga ones have a much greater blue addition. THIS IS SO FREAKIN CRAZY AND SO OLD SCHOOL! Railroads in the 40s & 50s did this type stuff in its divisional engine houses. Santa Fe had multiple versions of BLUE BONNETS which many think were standard but OH NO and even more several divisions had there own YELLOW BONNET schemes. SR gave division shop foremen a certain leeway as well and SEVERAL CLASSES OF BIG STEAM ON SR WAS PAINTED IN VIRGINIA GREEN. SO TVRM be damned, 4501 needs to be green, Just sayin. Hope all this serves to explain some things.
Michael Asher Steam engines are also a lot cleaner than hazardous diesel fuel. Buring oil and coal is still cleaner than burning diesel fuel. I too prefer steam, though I've yet to see a steam loco in person in my lifetime
the locomotives look awesome but what happens when that stuff breaks.. are they going to be in the shop nonstop like diesel trucks with emission issues because that stuff isn't good for a diesel engine
Daniele Pelaia, yard. They don't have enough power for the long hauls which means you need more engines which equals the same or more emissions out of the eco friendly ones because there is more. Like you may need 6 while a long hauler can do 4.
@@a.j.deutsch1792 If NS has done their homework those units will be geared for a much lower maximum speed then road units. Which means they be able to pull heavier trains than a road unit normally could.
JT The Railfan, they aren't mainliners. If so they are a scam. Most mainline trains have 4400 hp compared to these guys 3000. So really it emits the same emissions on the long haul because you need more!
wow, nice looking motive power indeed! imagine what you good folk at NS could do if the green weenies would get off the road so to speak. enough is certainly enough, if I hear about the miserable day one more spotted owl has...
Engines are all about power. If you want power in a diesel engine you have to put fuel to it. One gal. of diesel fuel puts out so much smoke. I don't care what you say All thay are doing is treating it so you can't see the smoke.
xXGoldDoesMCXx, no because if we run out of oil we can't put it in the trains to make them run or even make the train! The parts on the train have oil in it.
Marek Pekárek, they are yard trains. So petrol is better and you WOULD NEED LOTS FOR ELECTRICITY for a freight train. Works for passenger trains because they are lighter and don't haul nearly as much!
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Hilarious that the railroads and residents are required to “lower emissions” while the world’s busiest airport here covers the entire city with noxious jet fuel exhaust. 😂
I thought the current 'hybrid' versions of diesel electric locomotives was already fairly green. Toyota' ripped off the idea and put it on an automotive platform....called it a Prius (run on gas instead of diesel)....would be even more efficient if run on diesel, but we are a non-smoking society now. ha
yes, which is a form of Fuel. and they use huge electric generator for they tracktion wheels, if know what i mean. some 600v , High amps. + alot of batterys.
I think it's funny that they're bragging about committing to a cleaner environment, when the evidence that their trains leak their contents is in plain sight when they show the locomotives. Why didn't you get a few men or even boys to go scoop up as much of that crap as possible before the big photo shoot ? Even a pickup truck with a hefty generator and a bunch of shop-vac's and long extension cords would have been great. Or rent a vac-truck and just suck it all up....
Quit the bullshitting and tell us about the locomotives themselves, what did you do to reduce emissions etc ? looks like all you did was rebuild a bunch of engines in to slug sets, slug set are nice but they have limitations. we use them on CSX and while they are handy you can not separate them to do fancy switching moves and some of the slugs do not get enough power from the mother unit to properly run the heaters.
@@AbelG8781 A: they're already the norm in much of the rest of the world though? And B: that's not even my argument, I'm just poking fun at a diesel being called "eco" lmao
@@cpufreak101 yeah well I should've said in the US. Trains elsewhere are tiny compared to our long freights. And yeah I got the joke, these eco rebuilds are garbage. Just leave the classic diesel electric alone!
Post on you tube and twitter ; operation lifesaver ; Northfolk southern ; rail fans ; Eileen Maria Wysocki ; welcome to train safety ; okay ; watching the new trains ; bigger faster : and low on air pollution ; but one draw back ? Know what it is ? Comon you must know since blawnox likes to be dare devils beating trains all the time ; the draw back bigger faster trains ; so you better listen when I tell you to stay off , and Northfolk southern had the rail truck out today riding on the side of the tracks , do you know why ? I , n on the website take a guess ? Property yesterday the neighbor who tried suiside , remember the camera on top of the train ? That takes your picture when you cross ; if you wait five minutes or you go under gates , or talk about trains , remember it , s a video camera engineer sets up ; so you ever get caught he tells you I want the truth , you better cough it up , or go to jail , I use to beat them , he told me to tell him the truth , I did , he said good thing you ,re a friend or you , ll be in jail or nut house , you think I , m making this up , no way , if you , ll fucking with tracks he is very smart , he will get you , and don, t say I tell you so , jesus Northfolk southern and me wants you to think is 20 minutes or 30, or 5 minutes worth your life or limb ? I say no , life is worth living enjoy every minute , do you want in charge of your life ? Don, t ever mess with train , thank you , Eileen Maria Wysocki 15238 412 398 9399
furthermore, vastly less powerful locomotives means you need more of them to do the same amount of work as the full powered ones. that means you're still burning the same amount of fuel if not more. wtf!
These are Yard/local locomotives, And they are not Vastly less powerful, They are 3000 HP compared to 4400 HP on the Mainline locos, Which means you are not using the big locos for operations that do not require them. Which means you save a lot of fuel.
nice job obama administration..you got tax payers to pay half for the locomotives..why cant NS pay for the whole thing themselves? huh? I wish the government would pay for half of a brand new car for me.
Those Are Beautiful EMD GP33ECOs!
Ah, the old Pennsylvania railroad juniata shops in altoona. You made great locomotives back then and even to this day!
Saw two this morning, lashed up in a light power move, passing through downtown Pittsburgh on their way to Conway Yard. I said out loud "what the heck are those?" Seeing them the day they were revealed...they're very cool!
These locomotives look awesome! I love the paint! I hope to see some here in Philadelphia soon.
I wish I could see some here in Philly
@@DelcoImagery I've seen 4 of them in atlanta.
Keep up the good work Norfolk Southern Altoona PA you're the bomb God bless you all
Those locomotives look amazing!!!
2:48 Very impressive! Congratulations
Amazing! Besides the Tier 4 GEVOs, these are the only Tier 4 locomotives that actually look very nice! Outstandingly nice job Norfolk Southern!
These are Tier 3 Locomotives.
No, Tier 3 was the last generation of locos for the railroads.These are Tier 4 and Tier 4 is the new generation for the railroads.
+Metra MP36 407 The GP33ECOs are Tier 3 compliant locomotives.
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+Metra MP36 407 Despite all what you are saying they are not exactly green technology........they are still burning fossil fuels.
So in the long shot it's not sustainable, and definately not enviromentally friendly.....yeah railroads are by far more ecological than road transport (half more than 50% of the traffic and only roughly 25% of the CO2 emissions in the US) but it's still burning Diesel fuel.....thus still pumping out more emissions than an electro.
If the Switch was made to electrification, there could be a lot more CO2, Nitrous Oxide and soot emissions be saved.
And that would really improve air quality........
RIP GP50's, but love these new ECO's, worth the rebuild!!Good progress NS!!!!
They're built off of GP50's!
How do you tell the difference between a GP40-2 and a GP50?
Love the colors! Keep the colors because they are nicer than the other Norfolk Southern liveries
Norfolk Southern a truly magnificent railroad.
Phenomenal. I live in Atlanta and I've yet to see one of these. Maybe they got sucked up into the sky in Paintsville and haven't landed yet.
It`s pretty easy to keep the air clean when you have over 300 trains a week parked on the rails because there isn`t enough track to run on.
Or 6 brand new Genset RP22C made by RJ Corman that are the most fuel efficient locomotives ever because, they break down so often that they end up parked. True story.
300 TRAINS A WEEK ? WASTE OF FUEL IDLING!
transfer it to csx they run it
Looks like our country's trains are starting to catch up a bit with trains in other countries, being more eco-friendly. First, I saw the Grand Canyon Railway begin regularly fueling one of their steam locomotives with waste vegetable oil, and now I see the Norfolk Southern give classic locomotives modern technology to make them more eco-friendly. These are good signs. :)
This is where innovation happens, the private sector. If green tech is going to make it, green tech has to turn a profit and be affordable without all the tax.
this is great and awsome #norfolk southern rocks
This is why i love NS
this isn't helping the environment only a billion dollar corporation !!!
me too
Billion dollar corporations get shit done.
Beautiful equipment
Beautiful locomotive, love the ECO Program NS, keep up the great work!
novas locomotivas da Norfolk Southern, esbanjando beleza neste modelo, e suas novas cores. Sensacional!Gostei.
2 1/2 minutes of hot air from politicians and executives, very little about precisely what was achieved and exactly nothing about how it was done. -1.
They rebuilt GP50’s put some green paint on them and derated the power is all
The other reply is wrong. It started before this actual manifestation when NS sought to take its tiny fleet of GP 59's which NS was the only purchaser of (2500hp) and began rebuilding those specifically for the Chicago area in a joint arrangement that upgraded them to tier 2 and also with microprocessor control and engine management. Also having a nominal fleet of GP 50's (3500 hp), NS began seeking out if these also could be involved in a similar smog reduction program.
The first engines became ECOGP22's (eco rated 2200 hp) and that was largely obtained by removing the turbo chargers and reworking the entire exhaust system for a re-burn for emission reduction.
The GP 50's however timed really well with EMD releasing an actual tier 3 - 710 prime mover which was/is largely applied to passenger locomotives but also made for a perfect fit into these.
OF NOTE: NO NS GP 50 WAS ORIGINALLY LOW NOSE. All new ADMIRAL cabs were fashioned and have a distinct 71 inch nose. Also in cab are -3 rated electronics and microprocessor engine management systems as well as a much updated and improved electrical cabinet.
These were down rated BUT THE ALTERNATORS WERE UPGRADED SUBSTANTIALLY TO A D87 AND THE TRACTION MOTORS ALSO A NEW VERSION TO MATCH. With those 2 items not only did these all become universal across the system as far as those 2 parts, but also it created a much greater traction with less HP.
This 2nd incarnation of NS rebuild is known as ECO GP33 (3300 HP down from 3500).
Also of note: IN BOTH CASES these are all MATED and in several cases are mated with a CALF aka SLUG. You can determine if its a POWER/POWER set or a POWER/SLUG set simply by looking for the joining and ALL THE CABLES or not.
NOTE: The power/slug sets are ALL yard assigned and at hump locations. Inman yard Atlanta has some of these. The powered sets are all on the road in short haul switching assignments around several major cities = ATLANTA + CHICAGO. NS has maybe 50 GP 50's and so far 26 have been in this program. ROME GA also has 1 set that handles ALL the local jobs there. I see a set running out of Forest Park to the East Point yard almost daily.
According to trains magazine the amount of emissions in each rendition is severely reduced. In the Eco GP 22 its maybe 50% (or less) of an original GP40-2 and in the case of the ECO GP 33 its maybe 20%.
OF NOTE: FLARED RADIATORS VERY SD 45 ISH.
One major change in these is the way the cooling system works and in some cases it works in REVERSE. In that case it acts as a hot water reservoir that PRE WARMS THE FUEL FOR COLD START. These engines are designed to be shut off DAILY which is a major alteration for any EMD product and why NS opted out of just buying these as EMD rebuilds and chose to redesign and build them in house. Any guy who ever has been faced with cold starting an EMD locomotive, well you can loose your religion fast.
The other side of the cooling system is that is is ITEM SEPARATED. There is now a radiator on each side assigned to specific cooling tasks for a DUAL COOL system.
Finally, NS did all this on its own initiative without being harassed into it. There are also several other NS rebuild projects going on and 1 major one is taking 70 series engines and rebuilding them with ALL NEW SELF STEERING TRUCKS, + changing them into AC traction.
These are marked by an ELECTRIC BLUE added to the paint scheme. Several were done at Chattanooga Shops and others are at Juniata each with its own version of the electric blue. Juniata has a HORSE MANE feature added into the paint scheme on the sides while the Chattanooga ones have a much greater blue addition.
THIS IS SO FREAKIN CRAZY AND SO OLD SCHOOL! Railroads in the 40s & 50s did this type stuff in its divisional engine houses. Santa Fe had multiple versions of BLUE BONNETS which many think were standard but OH NO and even more several divisions had there own YELLOW BONNET schemes. SR gave division shop foremen a certain leeway as well and SEVERAL CLASSES OF BIG STEAM ON SR WAS PAINTED IN VIRGINIA GREEN. SO TVRM be damned, 4501 needs to be green,
Just sayin. Hope all this serves to explain some things.
I want to be an engineer for Norfolk southern ever since I was 3.
They are beautiful
Electrification is possible for all railroads (laughing in Milwaukee Road), but this is a good-faith step in the right direction.
We came across one of these consists at Conway Brigde.
We have some of these in the NS Conway yard
nice video and great catch of the new ns engine's.
Nice share, thanks! :)
Aged like fine wine
Great effort and a great story! Congratulations to NS and to our country.
I like how they don’t make them look ugly
Great Video. Loved It. Very Nice.
I'm glad they have clean burning engines but I like steamers a lot better.
Michael Asher Steam engines are also a lot cleaner than hazardous diesel fuel. Buring oil and coal is still cleaner than burning diesel fuel. I too prefer steam, though I've yet to see a steam loco in person in my lifetime
Lol, steamers.
Go to Africa!
Do they use def. How does it work
absolutely love to gp33eco Fantastic work by emd
Nice locomotive.i hope more success for ns
Pretty cool!
The whole family of the Eco Norfolk southern fleet
Where dose it run
the locomotives look awesome but what happens when that stuff breaks.. are they going to be in the shop nonstop like diesel trucks with emission issues because that stuff isn't good for a diesel engine
They'll probably overheat every five minutes.
kodiak4502004 our shop is overwhelmed with the tier 4 stuff.. yeah its really complicated and we are getting zero tech help
Thank you NS!
Its nice to see another NS locomotive other than the GEVO's
This is similar to when commuter rails switched from the old Forney locomotives to electricity in metro areas.
They are So Beautiful 😍
I have never seen this locomotive on the Horse Shoe Curve.
are they going to scrap the SD40-2s?
+up4014 steam train fan
Hopefully not ... but eventually they will :(
They still love their SD40-2s though! They love their SD40E's as well :P
so that means they are going to? Benjamin Esposti
+up4014 steam train fan they are rebuilding most SD40-2 cabs into admiral cabs
Shane's Vids okay!
up4014 steam train fan Oops I meant just NS
If its got a 3000 hp engine, then why not just call it a GP40 eco?
I was landing on a plane after we took a trip to Colorado and there was a pair of the ecos I could see
GO NORKLOFT SOUTHERN!!!!!!!!!!
I don't approve.
Norkloft?? U having a seizure?
I want one in Ho scale NOWWWW
looks as if the 4718 and 4719 are slug sets.
the rear engines are modified GP15s
I noticed that too, it looks like every second unit is a slug. Not exactly new tech!
Made from... SD40s?
Those locomotives must be super reliable if NS built this class off of them.
Perhaps they could develop a modern steam turbine engine powered by a miniaturized pebble bed reactor.
Bring Them down To the FEC!!
This is how trains are better than cars
can someone please explain are these locomotives yard or road swirchers
Daniele Pelaia, yard. They don't have enough power for the long hauls which means you need more engines which equals the same or more emissions out of the eco friendly ones because there is more. Like you may need 6 while a long hauler can do 4.
@@a.j.deutsch1792 If NS has done their homework those units will be geared for a much lower maximum speed then road units. Which means they be able to pull heavier trains than a road unit normally could.
I want to see one but I live near CSX line.
JT The Railfan, they aren't mainliners. If so they are a scam. Most mainline trains have 4400 hp compared to these guys 3000. So really it emits the same emissions on the long haul because you need more!
Is that the highest rated horse power. 3000
Lol nope, 4400 is the industry standard.
SD45 Radiators, cool
Man what a boneyard @2:48
Don't say NS BP4 999 is being replaced.....
Crap, now I need to buy new locomotives for my HO scale Norfolk Southern layout in my basement.
Keep a watch , Some Revell HE 111s ruined my marshalling yard
Too bad BNSF and UP have more dense traffic than every eastern carrier! =P
NYC heritage unit at 2:07
So you can get these in N scale but not HO??!! It's enough to drive anyone crazy
wow, nice looking motive power indeed! imagine what you good folk at NS could do if the green weenies would get off the road so to speak. enough is certainly enough, if I hear about the miserable day one more spotted owl has...
1:30 thats one hard bottle
There is thousands of santa fe locomotives sitting and rotting away in new Mexico.
K and?
This is even in ROBLOX games!
What ? A new coat of paint makes this locomotives more efficient?
The American flag is always on the speakers right.
Engines are all about power. If you want power in a diesel engine you have to put fuel to it. One gal. of diesel fuel puts out so much smoke. I don't care what you say All thay are doing is treating it so you can't see the smoke.
Ah Yes, because other cities do not deserve clean air to breathe.
eco engines have passed locust grove ga
This is why polution isn't going to kill all of us, once we run out of oil, the world will be all green, electric.
xXGoldDoesMCXx, no because if we run out of oil we can't put it in the trains to make them run or even make the train! The parts on the train have oil in it.
I appreciate the efforts to lower the environmental burden , but would not be more eco electric locomotives ?
Marek Pekárek Idk, maybe because we don't have any electric fright lines.
Marek Pekárek, they are yard trains. So petrol is better and you WOULD NEED LOTS FOR ELECTRICITY for a freight train. Works for passenger trains because they are lighter and don't haul nearly as much!
*even the damn video has seen Heritage units*
I'll bet most of that money went to those pencil pushers .
I hope they are D.E.F Free.
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Hilarious that the railroads and residents are required to “lower emissions” while the world’s busiest airport here covers the entire city with noxious jet fuel exhaust. 😂
GO USA!. Sal.des.new yorkc.
A forbidden word
What the hell are you talking about?
@@AbelG8781 this was like 3 years ago I genuinely do not know
@@therookie9276 uhmm ok....
I thought the current 'hybrid' versions of diesel electric locomotives was already fairly green. Toyota' ripped off the idea and put it on an automotive platform....called it a Prius (run on gas instead of diesel)....would be even more efficient if run on diesel, but we are a non-smoking society now. ha
but the gas it run on like over $10k
MARCELLINO GUARNERO, don't all trains run on diesel?
yes, which is a form of Fuel. and they use huge electric generator for they tracktion wheels, if know what i mean. some 600v , High amps. + alot of batterys.
need alot oh horse power to move heavy stuff.
Only 3000HP??? Thats nothing
so now it takes more of these to do the same work as the full powered engines. WTF!! That's less efficiency
Michael Gillette They are meant to be used in a yard, like a regular GP40-2, just with less emissions.
If NS is not switching it't bichin
I think it's funny that they're bragging about committing to a cleaner environment, when the evidence that their trains leak their contents is in plain sight when they show the locomotives. Why didn't you get a few men or even boys to go scoop up as much of that crap as possible before the big photo shoot ? Even a pickup truck with a hefty generator and a bunch of shop-vac's and long extension cords would have been great. Or rent a vac-truck and just suck it all up....
Quit the bullshitting and tell us about the locomotives themselves, what did you do to reduce emissions etc ? looks like all you did was rebuild a bunch of engines in to slug sets, slug set are nice but they have limitations. we use them on CSX and while they are handy you can not separate them to do fancy switching moves and some of the slugs do not get enough power from the mother unit to properly run the heaters.
Dude you need to relax and go back to work!
Lol at "green" and "eco". It still burns diesel, you're not gonna get clean without electrification.
Gee....I wonder how their wheels move then...
@@AbelG8781 I'm well aware they're diesel-electric, which isn't the same thing as pure electric. Just find it ironic is all lol
@@cpufreak101 there will not be electric locomotives for a long long time. Electrical power isn't enough.
@@AbelG8781 A: they're already the norm in much of the rest of the world though?
And B: that's not even my argument, I'm just poking fun at a diesel being called "eco" lmao
@@cpufreak101 yeah well I should've said in the US. Trains elsewhere are tiny compared to our long freights. And yeah I got the joke, these eco rebuilds are garbage. Just leave the classic diesel electric alone!
Lo que debe hacer Ferromex
Interdouceing… NS ELECTRIC GREEN LOCOMOTVIVES
Oh their just batteries!
GREENABILITY,,,🌏🌎🌍 ECO-FRIENDLY
Hol’ up
The green paint on the locos looks ugly
GREEN IS A MORE VISABLE COLOR🚦
Paint it black
Reading and northern is still a better railroad than NS
Post on you tube and twitter ; operation lifesaver ; Northfolk southern ; rail fans ; Eileen Maria Wysocki ; welcome to train safety ; okay ; watching the new trains ; bigger faster : and low on air pollution ; but one draw back ? Know what it is ? Comon you must know since blawnox likes to be dare devils beating trains all the time ; the draw back bigger faster trains ; so you better listen when I tell you to stay off , and Northfolk southern had the rail truck out today riding on the side of the tracks , do you know why ? I , n on the website take a guess ? Property yesterday the neighbor who tried suiside , remember the camera on top of the train ? That takes your picture when you cross ; if you wait five minutes or you go under gates , or talk about trains , remember it , s a video camera engineer sets up ; so you ever get caught he tells you I want the truth , you better cough it up , or go to jail , I use to beat them , he told me to tell him the truth , I did , he said good thing you ,re a friend or you , ll be in jail or nut house , you think I , m making this up , no way , if you , ll fucking with tracks he is very smart , he will get you , and don, t say I tell you so , jesus Northfolk southern and me wants you to think is 20 minutes or 30, or 5 minutes worth your life or limb ? I say no , life is worth living enjoy every minute , do you want in charge of your life ? Don, t ever mess with train , thank you , Eileen Maria Wysocki 15238 412 398 9399
Norfolk southern destroyed historic high hood locomotives
this only benefits humans not nature
furthermore, vastly less powerful locomotives means you need more of them to do the same amount of work as the full powered ones. that means you're still burning the same amount of fuel if not more. wtf!
These are Yard/local locomotives, And they are not Vastly less powerful, They are 3000 HP compared to 4400 HP on the Mainline locos, Which means you are not using the big locos for operations that do not require them. Which means you save a lot of fuel.
@@mayhemmike1789 vastly? The average freight loco has 4000 hp. That of most passenger trains in the US
nice job obama administration..you got tax payers to pay half for the locomotives..why cant NS pay for the whole thing themselves? huh? I wish the government would pay for half of a brand new car for me.