For all those people who commented about not having enough space to move from the front to the back when the slides were in, should understand that the "squeeze" is there because of the TV installed behind the PS sofa. That sofa has to be moved forward to accommodate that. If you don''t get that option, you will have more room to move around. As it is shown in the video, you can actually get past those seats, it's just a little tight. Must people alway gripe about every little thing???
This isn't griping about a little thing??? For this kind of money and that tight of a squeeze for you or your wife to even get to the bathroom while you're on the road no thanks. What are you suppose to do, pull over and pop a slide out to move around a bit??? Somebody wasn't thinking about comfort for passengers while driving, just thinking about the $$$$ Aren't these supposed to be self-contained while on the road, make your self something to eat, make coffee, etc, without having to stop everywhere when you want to make something to eat. I would be planning on driving at least 10 to 15 thousand miles around the U.S. and Canada and I don't want to always have to pull over and pull a slide out to get from front to back as I will not be camping steady I will be doing a lot of driving. And as far as that sofa being out because of the T.V. is there any possible way to make it fold up to give you some room to walk by while you're on the road???
it became a joke, when they showed it had no usibility while driving or befor slide outs extended. how do you get to the bathroom or get some thing to eat while traveling?
Ronald Day I agree. It is possible to get to the galley, but not without difficulty. Not too many people would want to climb over furniture to do so. I was disappointed to see this myself. Thanks for the feedback! I’ll definitely pass it along to Tiffin at my next opportunity.
i thought part of the rv experience is being able to use your own bathroom when ever and were ever you want. and being able to eat from your kitchen when ever and were ever. with this set up only able to do that when set up with slides out and parked for duration. and what do you do if more then two are traveling? the others lay down on the couches?
If you pay attention and see the gap between the coaches, it should have have enough space for anyone to walk to the backside while driving. After all it’s only “leg room “.
Nice coach, but I didn't like the bathroom in the middle. I prefer a 1/2 bath in the middle and full in the back. But, nice and beautiful coach. I'll take one for free... :-)
Love the slide fascias. That simple picture frame look is perfect. Looks simple, but time consuming and expensive to create. Slide fascias were never meant to be a focal point. But somehow they became a focal point distracting from the overall look. These slide fascias have cohesion and balance with all the other beauty around them. There are no corner pieces to cover bad cuts. The pieces must align perfectly. Otherwise that piece goes to a smaller slide box. If the cut for the smaller slide box gets screwed up, that beautiful piece is reused somewhere else. Likely as a support brace hidden away. Awe kinda sad. That beautiful piece of wood had two chances to be admired for life. That was until some human cut this wood incorrectly twice. Now the beautiful wood is hidden away like all the other rejected wood bits. Don't fret, despite never getting a chance to shine bright, the wood piece is happy to still play a vital role. More importantly it's one more piece of wood not clogging up a landfill. Hahaha. Feeling cheeky and chatty tonight. Cheers from Seattle!
That's the advantage of seamless slides. The slide rooms in this coach are ONE PIECE, unlike the multipiece slides used in the marketplace, and they provide for a very clean look.
Those were a few years ago. Their decor follows high-end home designs. The grey trend was short lived. The next few years will be about light tones. Think late 80's through the mid 90's in super high end homes. Middle class homes will see the trend a few years later when prices begin to come down as the novelty wears off in the high-end market. Think white washed oak, gloss blond woods, and then an all white painted or veneer look. The concurrent trend at the opposite end of the spectrum is matte finish darker woods and stains. The matte finish trend is winding down. Ramping up again is the high gloss dark woods and stains for those not into the light trend. Hopefully we'll see a playful mix of both in some units. I love the contrasting look and "visual feel" between the matte and super high gloss finishes all grounded by the perfect countertop choice. Let's pray they leave the pink and green granite in the 90's. I was never fond of those granite choices. Our kitchen, a few bathrooms, and the bar were all pink granite. Dad had the green granite in mine and my brother's bathrooms, the pool house, a few fireplaces, and all over the library and his office. It was gaudy granite overload. Over used like white Carrara marble is today. I do love the white marble with grey veining when used in moderation. Today the floor, walls, entire shower, and vanity is all white Carrara in mother's new bathroom. In 5-8 years it'll be ripped out for the next trend. If only the Carrara was used just on the floor or as the shower and vanity top or a two slab book matched accent wall, it all wouldn't need to be ripped out and replaced. Mother is too reliant on fads. I blame all those magazines and their decorator. Those decorators know how to keep their clients for life. One little email saying hello with a new bathroom ghosted behind the text and her phone starts going off. "Is this the new it bathroom?". "You've got all the measurements for my home. Order it as just like this and let me know when to take my vacation! Let's lunch next week. Say Wednesday at 3ish. 3 is close enough to five so I can have a cocktail. ". Wow. I really went on and on over nothing. Geez. I am like my mother. Yikes. Cheers from Seattle!
At what level do you get push button start in Motorhomes with a FOB that controls doors and basement doors ,, along with remote app with cameras , awning , and lock /unlock .. Inexpensive things that really enhance a coach, instead a bunch of keys banging against dash? Tiffins flagship lets get in 2019 proven technologies , quality coaches that are lagging behind
Keith Wheeler your talking about an Entegra Cornerstone, but the “ vega system is not 100%, there are three players involved in that coach system, it’s giving fits to both the new owners and Rv dealers,as well as Entegra. I know, I own one.
I'm going to trade my 2016 Winnebago oh my God there's so many motorhomes RVs out there they're just so beautiful I don't it it's like I'm like a child and a candy store I'm 73 I still travel a lot I have my children my grandchildren and great-grandchildren and the family keeps growing so the buses have got to get bigger we love the life we're gypsies if you will I don't care but we have a home to live in we just love the open road.
Helen Boula LOTS of choices!! But if there’s anyway I can help, let me know. -And I agree with you...love the open road! Something very liberating about traveling.
Head of the bed should always be on ''patio side'' for added tranquility (sleep early or get up late: no noisy neighbors) - Same for dinette, quiet meal not always possible with noisy disrespectful asses next door.
Interior camera shots were bad. Thank you for showing interior with slides in, most will not show that shot. Still, with only 2-3” of isle, this RV is eliminated as a possibility. If you can’t walk down the isle easily, the motorhome is useless. We will look at all the Tiffins at the January RV show in Tampa next January. But the MP looks crowded and not very user friendly.
Jeffery Myers thanks for the critique. It’s just a hobby. Sounds like I have a little more work to do though. As for the coach, I too was surprised at how little space there was with the slides closed.
Tom, the interior camera shots were great; some people consider themselves a lot more qualified to criticize than they ought. It's very nice to see your efforts to present coaches without the huckster sales pitches, and without them in the picture. Nice editing and music as well!
Indeed good camera work, and very nice RV. Been looking up many brands, models and floorplans lately. Although these lay outs are very nice, I feel they look too ''Victorian''. Tiffin and Entegra retained my attention but, as well as all the other manufacturers both seem to have designers that know but 6 colors: white, off-white, beige, brown, grey and black. Same for the exteriors. I don't know the reason. Is it for ease and speed of production rate, (C'mon boys, pump em out ! !") resale value, looking for an old 19th century estate style, or just pure lack of creativity. I would require more colors than that or ''NO SALE''. The interior does not have to look like a discobar, but could sure be more lively ! Just saying !
guy lamson unless something’s changed, there is a 600 hp option. However, that’s a much smaller buyer pool. The majority don’t want to pay the additional up front, or at the pump. -that said, if money were no object, I’d have the 600. LOTS of power and merging into traffic just isn’t a problem. 😉
Another Tiffin interior dominated by beige everuthing. It seems their designers have never heard of blue, green, orange, yellow, etc., and feel obligated to match the wood color every time. Their interior are so bland ...!
Don’t like it! Tv’s in a horrible place, got to put coffee pot on other side of stove instead of next to sink, rather have drawers than a fireplace in bedroom.
WOW! The interior is so impressive without being gaudy. Thank you.
Extremely well vision of the totally new bus makeover. Awesome job
Very nice unit
Great camera work and editing. It allows time to see the coach without someone telling you it has "so much storage"
James Burley thanks so much!! It’s a hobby of mine. Appreciate the feedback!
For all those people who commented about not having enough space to move from the front to the back when the slides were in, should understand that the "squeeze" is there because of the TV installed behind the PS sofa. That sofa has to be moved forward to accommodate that. If you don''t get that option, you will have more room to move around. As it is shown in the video, you can actually get past those seats, it's just a little tight. Must people alway gripe about every little thing???
This isn't griping about a little thing??? For this kind of money and that tight of a squeeze for you or your wife to even get to the bathroom while you're on the road no thanks. What are you suppose to do, pull over and pop a slide out to move around a bit??? Somebody wasn't thinking about comfort for passengers while driving, just thinking about the $$$$ Aren't these supposed to be self-contained while on the road, make your self something to eat, make coffee, etc, without having to stop everywhere when you want to make something to eat. I would be planning on driving at least 10 to 15 thousand miles around the U.S. and Canada and I don't want to always have to pull over and pull a slide out to get from front to back as I will not be camping steady I will be doing a lot of driving. And as far as that sofa being out because of the T.V. is there any possible way to make it fold up to give you some room to walk by while you're on the road???
45 MP is good floorplan for peace and quiet !
What they don't show you is with the slides in you can't walk through it.
Dennis Adams they did show you, it was a tight squeeze but it appeared it could be done
Nice coach but now I see why they don't show them with slides in how the do you get to bathroom's
Intelligent video instead of a sales rep and bad music.
Can’t get to the bathroom on the road. That sucks!
Very nice
There's no pathway down the middle w/ the slides in.
Rick D you’re right. I really like Tiffin products, but was really surprised/disappointed when I saw this.
it became a joke, when they showed it had no usibility while driving or befor slide outs extended. how do you get to the bathroom or get some thing to eat while traveling?
Ronald Day I agree. It is possible to get to the galley, but not without difficulty. Not too many people would want to climb over furniture to do so. I was disappointed to see this myself. Thanks for the feedback! I’ll definitely pass it along to Tiffin at my next opportunity.
i thought part of the rv experience is being able to use your own bathroom when ever and were ever you want. and being able to eat from your kitchen when ever and were ever. with this set up only able to do that when set up with slides out and parked for duration. and what do you do if more then two are traveling? the others lay down on the couches?
@@TomMatlock1 oh and thank you for showing us what it was like with the slides in. would never have expected that little of space.
If you pay attention and see the gap between the coaches, it should have have enough space for anyone to walk to the backside while driving. After all it’s only “leg room “.
Nice coach, but I didn't like the bathroom in the middle. I prefer a 1/2 bath in the middle and full in the back. But, nice and beautiful coach. I'll take one for free... :-)
Paradise on 🌍 😊. One day. God willing ~
Well done tiffin bravo nice for 2019 ☺👌👏👏👏👍
R j , agreed! I only have a few negatives I was able to come up with, but on the whole, great redesign!
Love the slide fascias. That simple picture frame look is perfect. Looks simple, but time consuming and expensive to create. Slide fascias were never meant to be a focal point. But somehow they became a focal point distracting from the overall look. These slide fascias have cohesion and balance with all the other beauty around them. There are no corner pieces to cover bad cuts. The pieces must align perfectly. Otherwise that piece goes to a smaller slide box. If the cut for the smaller slide box gets screwed up, that beautiful piece is reused somewhere else. Likely as a support brace hidden away. Awe kinda sad. That beautiful piece of wood had two chances to be admired for life. That was until some human cut this wood incorrectly twice. Now the beautiful wood is hidden away like all the other rejected wood bits. Don't fret, despite never getting a chance to shine bright, the wood piece is happy to still play a vital role. More importantly it's one more piece of wood not clogging up a landfill. Hahaha. Feeling cheeky and chatty tonight.
Cheers from Seattle!
That's the advantage of seamless slides. The slide rooms in this coach are ONE PIECE, unlike the multipiece slides used in the marketplace, and they provide for a very clean look.
In 30 years I'll be able to buy this used with 150,000 miles on it
EricDavidFloyd lol! Me too!
Nice bus and gave a thumbs up !
Magnifique 👍
Love the bus and tech.but but at 54 i want better choice of wood color . I tired of the browns and cherries. How about grey and ash.
Those were a few years ago. Their decor follows high-end home designs. The grey trend was short lived. The next few years will be about light tones. Think late 80's through the mid 90's in super high end homes. Middle class homes will see the trend a few years later when prices begin to come down as the novelty wears off in the high-end market. Think white washed oak, gloss blond woods, and then an all white painted or veneer look. The concurrent trend at the opposite end of the spectrum is matte finish darker woods and stains. The matte finish trend is winding down. Ramping up again is the high gloss dark woods and stains for those not into the light trend. Hopefully we'll see a playful mix of both in some units. I love the contrasting look and "visual feel" between the matte and super high gloss finishes all grounded by the perfect countertop choice. Let's pray they leave the pink and green granite in the 90's. I was never fond of those granite choices. Our kitchen, a few bathrooms, and the bar were all pink granite. Dad had the green granite in mine and my brother's bathrooms, the pool house, a few fireplaces, and all over the library and his office. It was gaudy granite overload. Over used like white Carrara marble is today. I do love the white marble with grey veining when used in moderation. Today the floor, walls, entire shower, and vanity is all white Carrara in mother's new bathroom. In 5-8 years it'll be ripped out for the next trend. If only the Carrara was used just on the floor or as the shower and vanity top or a two slab book matched accent wall, it all wouldn't need to be ripped out and replaced. Mother is too reliant on fads. I blame all those magazines and their decorator. Those decorators know how to keep their clients for life. One little email saying hello with a new bathroom ghosted behind the text and her phone starts going off. "Is this the new it bathroom?". "You've got all the measurements for my home. Order it as just like this and let me know when to take my vacation! Let's lunch next week. Say Wednesday at 3ish. 3 is close enough to five so I can have a cocktail. ".
Wow. I really went on and on over nothing. Geez. I am like my mother. Yikes.
Cheers from Seattle!
Its a nice coach but is it as good as a marathon
At what level do you get push button start in Motorhomes with a FOB
that controls doors and basement doors ,, along with remote app with cameras , awning , and lock /unlock .. Inexpensive things that really enhance a coach, instead a bunch of keys banging against dash? Tiffins flagship lets get in 2019 proven technologies , quality coaches that are lagging behind
Keith Wheeler your talking about an Entegra Cornerstone, but the “
vega system is not 100%, there are three players involved in that coach system, it’s giving fits to both the new owners and Rv dealers,as well as Entegra. I know, I own one.
WOW!!!! Did you notice the outside air temp on the dash?? 134 degrees???!!!
This is a beautiful Coach. Unfortunately, there is no getting around or a place for family or friends to sit with the slides in when traveling.
Starlene Spencer I agree. I really like Tiffin Motorhomes, but must admit, I too was a little disappointed with this aspect of the coach.
Very nice!
I'm going to trade my 2016 Winnebago oh my God there's so many motorhomes RVs out there they're just so beautiful I don't it it's like I'm like a child and a candy store I'm 73 I still travel a lot I have my children my grandchildren and great-grandchildren and the family keeps growing so the buses have got to get bigger we love the life we're gypsies if you will I don't care but we have a home to live in we just love the open road.
Helen Boula LOTS of choices!! But if there’s anyway I can help, let me know. -And I agree with you...love the open road! Something very liberating about traveling.
@@TomMatlock1 thank you so much.
I have YET to see one of these with enough closet space.
Q
2019 and the driver seat belt glide already popped out of seat.
Super nice coach I would buy one if it was done in American cherry wood on cabinets and floors and darker furniture
Head of the bed should always be on ''patio side'' for added tranquility (sleep early or get up late: no noisy neighbors) - Same for dinette, quiet meal not always possible with noisy disrespectful asses next door.
Not functional with the slides in ??
Dodge Charger taillights?
Sonicsneverdie pretty sure they are...
Interior camera shots were bad.
Thank you for showing interior with slides in, most will not show that shot. Still, with only 2-3” of isle, this RV is eliminated as a possibility. If you can’t walk down the isle easily, the motorhome is useless.
We will look at all the Tiffins at the January RV show in Tampa next January. But the MP looks crowded and not very user friendly.
Jeffery Myers thanks for the critique. It’s just a hobby. Sounds like I have a little more work to do though.
As for the coach, I too was surprised at how little space there was with the slides closed.
Tom, the interior camera shots were great; some people consider themselves a lot more qualified to criticize than they ought. It's very nice to see your efforts to present coaches without the huckster sales pitches, and without them in the picture. Nice editing and music as well!
Dear Ronald Day how dare you how dare you. JK
WOW!!!! I want one. How much is it? Incredible bus. Great video. Thank you.
Greg
George Norcross pretty sure this one runs mid to upper $300k range.
How Much ?
Indeed good camera work, and very nice RV. Been looking up many brands, models and floorplans lately. Although these lay outs are very nice, I feel they look too ''Victorian''. Tiffin and Entegra retained my attention but, as well as all the other manufacturers both seem to have designers that know but 6 colors: white, off-white, beige, brown, grey and black. Same for the exteriors. I don't know the reason. Is it for ease and speed of production rate, (C'mon boys, pump em out ! !") resale value, looking for an old 19th century estate style, or just pure lack of creativity. I would require more colors than that or ''NO SALE''. The interior does not have to look like a discobar, but could sure be more lively ! Just saying !
Why do the back headlights resemble a doge?
4:13 Kind of cramped wouldn't you say?
What do you expect when you have 4 slides???? I guess some people just have to have something to complain about.
Why only 450 HP and not 605 HP? The obvious answer is cost but I'm sure people would pay for the privilege
guy lamson unless something’s changed, there is a 600 hp option. However, that’s a much smaller buyer pool. The majority don’t want to pay the additional up front, or at the pump. -that said, if money were no object, I’d have the 600. LOTS of power and merging into traffic just isn’t a problem. 😉
@@TomMatlock1 Why doesn't Tiffin promote the 600 HP if they have one?
guy lamson dunno... all I know from selling them is that it simply appeared as a line item on the order form. But it’s just not a big seller.
WOW
What might its price be??
Anindita Chatterjee I believe this one runs in the mid to upper 300k range.
It's more than the $350,000 he said. It is about $500,000 list price.
Mike K. You are likely right. I never give retail numbers. I was estimating an actual sale price.
Id love to be the chaffeur
price?
I'd have to look it up to refresh my memory, but I believe somewhere in the $380k range.
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I likit
Would like to see some handicap excesable motor coaches
Yes
Excesable?
How much bruh bruh?
Sillo Zakakanivskie pretty sure this one runs in the mid $300k range.
Another Tiffin interior dominated by beige everuthing. It seems their designers have never heard of blue, green, orange, yellow, etc., and feel obligated to match the wood color every time. Their interior are so bland ...!
Found the presentattion rather boring.
Terry Boaz I’m sorry to hear that. I’ll try to make future productions more engaging.
Appalling interior, really.
Don’t like it! Tv’s in a horrible place, got to put coffee pot on other side of stove instead of next to sink, rather have drawers than a fireplace in bedroom.
You just don't like it because you can't afford it.
Paul Wicklund that is very true
Bathroom is shit