First try was good for Elantra N line and it beat the Si. but the other tries. it was as if the driver was sleeping. I have Elantra Sport myself and it beats Si like really easy. Switch driver please lol. and Mazda is just out of this segment as its AWD with a lot more horsepower. I would love to see Mazda turbo race with Elantra N :D .
@UCBSTxxGIEX6IhwbBS59VsjQ Nobody is saying it isnt, or even talking about Mazda, dumbass. Still a fact that the Elantra driver is slow? He is right and not saying anything wrong... typical anime weirdos ... All dumbasses
@@havoc7154 Mazda is not better in any way lmfao how .. Hyundai is literally #3 in Reliability behind Lexus and Toyota. Kia is #4 Mazda isnt AS reliable and has shit interiors
We all expected the same outcome, but this was still nice to see. The 3 has more power/AWD but is 400lbs+ heavier. Plus the Trans is like a granny. Love my Mazda3 Turbo Premium+ tho! Can’t beat the aesthetics of the Kodo design!!
Perfect video for me. Everyone I know suggested the Mazda 3 or Civic Si, and I got an Elantra N Line instead. After the test drive, I couldn't stop talking about it. It drives so well.
@@mbenton6 I test drove a 2021 Mazda 3 Premium hatchback. I went over a speed bump and was confused about how unsettled the car got, so I went around the block and hit the speed bump again. I didn't like it. Mazda focused on Interior quality, not drivability or how it feels to drive. Hyundai did the complete opposite lol Honda is probably more of a drivers car, with a decent interior...best of both worlds?
I had a 1st gen and brought it up to a little more than 325HP to the wheels. It had so much torque steer it was scary as hell. It handled like a dream though and would beat anything in it's class. It would be nice to see a speed3 with at least 300hp, AWD and have the comfort of their newer interior design. I've waited for a new speed3 since the 2nd gen was introduced and sadly it hasn't happened.
@@brenttitus2134 Initially it sold faster than it could be manufactured but really by the time the 2nd gen came out the market had shifted and the design was already antiquated enough even with the changes the 2nd gen brought forward. The prime reason another speed isn't being produced now is that Mazda says it's both cost and risk associated. Like you said.....it's a niche product. It's not a sure fire profitable move for Mazda to make one now.
The Mazda is awesome, got great performance, (a little bit over the top) But the Elantra performance had improved in the last 4 years with the new Gamma-II engine generation. Let say that I want to see this again later with the Elantra N. Now better that we have an whole family of N, Veloster N, Elantra N, Kona N and Sonata N-Line. 👍
I have the Mazda3 turbo, great car and excellent performance, but for outright acceleration the transmission is really pushing back the engine capability. I estimate with a more modern 8 speed, it would improve at least half a second the 0 to 60 performance.
@@AndresSalazarAutos you have a massive point there. Some cars have great numbers by paper but when the car hit the road, reality is not that great. For example Veloster 1.6T 2013. The engine prodice 201hp, but, by the weight and transmission the 0 to 60 is limited to 7.3s. The Hyundai Accent 2019 [manual] produce 130hp and make the run 0 to 60 in 7.4s. Faster than the Corolla, Civic, Sentra, Elantra and Forte [non-performance models]
Sincerely I have a Kia Forte GT Turbo with the same power from the Elantra N-Line here in the video, my Kia weight 2,762 lbs. I can say my kia run with Civic Si, with Mini Countryman, with Mustang 4 cylinders turbo, with Audi S4 2.0t, All a can say is I have good battles. The true battle I have is in the mountains and the Forte handle great with all season tires, the next change is the tires to summer for better handling, I don't know this Elantra N-Line have a summer tires option, but need summer tires and LSD is the best way to get better traction from the dig. Need to test the same race with Mazda run on regular fuel.
The Elantra N is beautiful now. Beautiful lines. The Mazda is nice too but seems a bit tame in design. The SI looks like a rocket and has nice rims and tail lights Not too many Mazda dealer networks so I’d be afraid to get it serviced
There’s actually quite a lot of dealers for a less prevalent product.. the only thing I think you’d need to worry about is the cost of maintenance not being able to get it maintenanced. If you get one and don’t have a dealer in your area for some reason- please find a way to get it serviced at an actual Mazda center. lil jiffy lube mechanics are not trained properly on those engines like certified Mazda professionals are. Your car will not last long. It’s pricier to have a Mazda but you can have a very reliable car if you treat it properly
Nooo the civic with traction control ALL The way off can launch with break hold 😭😭 put me behind the wheel. Lets redo this. Haha I’m just biased, I like the aftermarket community with the civic too.
These cars may have similar hp and price but they are 3 different cars for different things really. I would say the mazda is the nicest and most comfortable hands down, its for cruising but its the worst in terms of raw performance. The Si is a daily sedan that has some mild sport to it but its not really a high performance vehicle like the type R or the N cars. The Elantra N was created to be a high performance sedan. So it really is in a class of its own for the price that its at. The Civic Si truly competes with the Elantra N-Line
As a new Mazda owner, yes their new cars are really nice and premium built on the interior. But they desperately need a newer faster automatic transmission. Yes, the 6 speed auto is a good reliable transmission, but a 7-8 speed transmission would make their cars faster
Someone can explain to the elantra driver that he has to leave at the same time as the others, not a car behind them. terrible work in all went back 🤦♂️
It's the shit Hyundai design team and management deliberately made the car to prevent from hard launching...In order to race eith these cars you gonna have to make 1 to 2 second headstart....there's no other way
I think we all knew that the Mazda would win the contest but it's interesting to see the differences between those cars. Maybe brake torquing would have helped the Elantra. Well the Si is manual, makes it harder from a dig but still a good car.
brake torque may or may not help the elantra hyundai's even the manual once it sense high brake pressure and accelerate input it cuts the throttle.. try the hand brake u'll get better results
Hyundai/Kia have awful traction control that cuts off all the power. That's why in the rounds when traction control was off, the N Line Elantra was doing much better and beating the Si.
@@braetonwilson4296 100% correct and unless you know that you would just assume the Elantra driver was bad at accelerating. Although his reaction time is slow
"Brake torquing" the Elantra makes it way worse just like you see in this video.. I have an N line and just mashing the gas off the line doesn't produce this lazy ass start, just a little turbo lag in first gear until 3000 rpm
My buddy got a brand new si and I couldn't find one myself so I ended up with a N Line and we have drag raced so many times. Both of ours are 6spd manuals and I win every time. He always has me at the dig from a stop but half way through second I'm always passing him and roll races instantly gives me the advantage. Can't tell if the elantra driver is bad or the dct is bad because I have only heard real good about hyundais wet clutch so I would be surprised if that was actually the transmission.
This goes to show the Mazda traction control is industry leading. It performs BETTER when on (I think it’s called skyactiv g vector or something like that) this is a performance traction control system
Mazda needs to up it and at least put a dual clutch in this and then it’ll be a real problem for everyone 4 turbo’d. This engine is extremely strong compared to all the turbo 4s out now it just needs a different transmission.
Mazda defeated the dual clutch Elantra N Line so I think their transmission is just fine. Mazda is designing an 8 speed automatic that they will be adding to new models.
@@andrewthach1989 that’s a big negative. This 2.5 turbo is the best in the segment the weak link is the transmission. If the put a 8speed or dual clutch it’s absolutely game over for everyone.
Mazda won't change the transmission. It's very matured and extremely reliable. Reliable transmission reduces cost not only for owners but also for the manufacturer due to less free warranty orders.
I bought a 22 N Line, off the line nothing amazing! Damn engine seems to bog on the DCT from 1-2 gear driving normal and I hate that. I’ve yet to try off the line full throttle. IIt’s not gonna do great dragging. It shines mid range, though. Overall I’m happy.
The Elantra surprised me a bit. The Si would probably kill both of the others in an autocross, as they are ruling in SCCA G Street class racing. The Mazda looks like a great car but I’ll pass until they get rid of the live rear axle and put a dual clutch in it.
@@Marlon_J On an autocross course the Mazda will not fare well. It’s 400 pounds heavier, has 7” wide wheels, a solid rear axle, and torque converter transmission. Autocross isn’t where it will shine.
Fact check.... the elantra N line can be had with a 6 speed manual. Also the mazda 3 is way more expensive than these 2 cars and has an engine that is an entire liter bigger than the others. There was no contest.
Now if they would just give the mazda3 an independent rear suspension and an 8 speed with a quicker steering trio. It'd be the everything killer of the segment
I have the Mazda3 turbo and the rear torsion beam doesn't kill the handling, in fact the fastest FWD car in the Nurburgring has a rear torsion beam (Megane RS Trophy), but I agree with you on the transmission, it isn't bad but the engine is more capable than the transmision allows.
Even if the Elantra reaction time is slower, and i don't think so, it beat the hot hatch benchmark for the last 15 years. This Dct is tricky to launch. I got a Forte gt with the same dct, and i think the Firte launch better than the Elantra. I don't know why touhg...The fact that you can not rev-brake more than 2000 rpm does not help, that's why the SI exploded faster, but the quikness of the DCT take's over pretty fast. I really think the price/performence goest to the Elantra. Yes the Mazda is faster, and it must be with 4wd and 50hp advantage and 311 pft, but it coast almost 10k more than the two other. Two. But it's always fun to see that kind of comparison...Nice job!👍
I have a gt2. I think its faster then the stated 6.7sec 0-60 mph. With traction and stability control off and manual shifting the dct, i seems to be closer to 6 sec.
@@jayniks74 Yeah, exactly. with mine, on new pavement, othetwise the tires have hard time to grip, i also feel it is closer to 6 than 7 sec. Try to drag a Accord 2.0T the other day, the first 4-5 sec, i was right beside him. After that, he eat me as supposed to. After all , it got more than 100hp advantage......Love alot my Gt!🤙
@@kylematthews3683 Got lether to kn my Forte GT.....Keep lane assist, it drive by itself for 30 sec, pretty cool, emergency braking, adaptive cruise...etc...All the goodies.....for 30k Canadian dollars.
@@vicp8772 the Si purpose is for the drivers experience. You’re absolutely right, it is NOT meant to be a drag car. However, the purpose of this video is a drag race, and many Si owners mod to become more competitive in a straight line, have you NOT read the comments here as to how they’re disappointed the Si lost? I mean, i think it did just fine. I wouldnt expect anymore from a stock Si... If anything the Si , somehow, outperformed an awd car with 320 lb-ft tq off the line in some of the digs of this video...which is odd lol
@@junkiexl86just keep in mind you’re paying the premium $$ for that reliability. If you treat it like a Honda or Hyundai you won’t have a car for very long- the engineering is much more sophisticated and complex. The differences lie underneath the hoods of these cars and the servicing standards of them. Honda and Hyundai don’t require much to stay running
Had my Lava Orange, 6 sd. manual N-line for about a year now. First of all, never try to run anybody from a dig with traction control on. Computer cuts power to save clutch and tire wear. Second, try to do a 30 m.p.h.roll. Peak torque comes in at 2500 and stays till 5000 rom. Should take any SI new or old. I do. FYI, just finished 2,000 road trip, comfortable, got 42.2 m.p.g. on highway. And cheaper than an SI.
@@gogosport3562 yea but I'm saying in terms of putting it up against the accord and k5, sorta an apples and oranges comparison. Just like if you put the Miata in there it'll beat them all
@@MrSwaggernaut83 Now a Miata vs a 3 would be a fun race, should be pretty close, with a slight edge to the 3 in a straight line, then on a track to see the MX-5 show what it's great at.
@@garys2157 true yea I forget it's not really that powerful moreso just sporty. My point stands though, put a Porsche 911 in there and THEN we'd have a bad race haha. Just saying comparing within classes is really only place where the these races make any sense
Interesting vid. I also didn't know I hadn't subscribed, which I did just now. Thanks for a lot of fun comparison vids. I think dry dcts have slow start, but shifts very fast afterwards. This explains elantra's performance here. Break launch would have helped Elantra a lot.
Great video man. I've been waiting for an Elantra N Line dragrace for a while now, thanks for bringing it. I would also appreciate if you do a dragrace featuring Elantra N Line, Civic Si, and Kia Forte GT please. Much love
@@fakedazzleful For what you are getting yes it is a fantastic price. 250 hp 310 lb/ft tourque, awd, great handling, just as reliable as a Toyota or a Honda, premium quality interior and it looks good. So yeah it is fantastic for the price. Only downside is the rear passenger room. Other than that, its better than its competition. They don't sell much because people are stuck in the past when it comes Toyota and Honda.
I've been saying for years, I guess decades now, that I'll buy a Civic SI ASAP when there's a DCT or automatic transmission. Disappointed every time there's a new generation, and hear SI is manual only. Why don't you want my money, Honda?
@@TheSuburban15 It’s frustrating too because the DCT auto Hyundai Elantra Sport/N-Line and auto Kia Forte GT is filling the void for a ~200hp 19K-21K compact fun sedan. The competition is beating them to market and people are buying DCT Volkswagon Jetta GLI’s in droves. Yet Honda still won’t give the Civic Si an automatic transmission (the one from the Accord 2.0T or 1.5T might work). Meanwhile the Acura ILX (which is supposed to be the Luxury Si like the TSX/RSX/Integra/Prelude kinda were) is literally pricing themselves out of the running when the car starts at $26k and can jump to $35k. For $26k, people want AWD Subaru WRX’s not an overpriced $26k rebranded 9th Gen Civic with an ILX badge. Especially not when the 11th Gen Civic is on the market and has an even better interior.
@@GA-wq8xq There's a significant difference in price. The Mazda 3 Turbo base price is at least $5k more than the other two, and in this class of car, that's substantial.
i hear u man.. was just curious as i see it just doesn't want to come out the hole.. could be hyundai's tune, i have only driven the older versions i realize even the manual once the ECM sees high brake pressure and accelerate input it cuts the throttle every time.. i don't know if this newer elantra has a manual hand brake if that would help but if u guys find the formula let me know
It’s a good video. But can we at least acknowledge that the Civic is the older out of the three. It is at least 4 years older. Cars have progressed so much in that time. Can you please try it out with the 2022 Civic Si coming out later this year.
The si is good but stock it’s held back by its clutch and rev hang. The si would smoke these two cars if you added a Hondata +9 psi tune and a clutch that would support that said tune or just stick with the +6 psi tune and stock clutch
Not in the same category of cars, the all wheel drive Mazda3 has around 60hp more then the civic and also cost way more. Not sure about the Elantra. The Mazda3 all wheel drive has a lot more in common with a WRX then a civic si.
@@fredzeppelin3969 your right that same argument could be made for all cars but the si is not overrated. For 25k in 2017 you got active dampers, LSD, tighter steering in sport mode, a rear wing for actual downforce not just for looks. You don't get that in any other car in 2017 unless you pay more. The gti got active dampers but if you put 3k more. Honda intended it to be fun and taken to the track which almost nobody except professional drivers did and they love it. Regular people only care about 0 to 60 so they were disappointed but it wasn't meant for them. Remember I said downforce it generated by the wing? Yeah that slows the car down in a drag race. Great car in track but not this format it's terrible.
Not really sure what the Mazda was doing there. At least make it a more fair comparison. It had 50 more hp and almost 120 lb ft more than both cars. Not to mention it’s also an awd. Was a winner before the race started which is always boring
All the Civic Si driver needed to do was to redline all his shifts from 2nd gear instead of shifting every 2 seconds. He can't even take off the line properly.
I have a 2020 civic si and I understand it’s very difficult to launch it if someone doesn’t know exactly how to launch it. Car and driver posted 0-60 at 6.3 but motortrend did at 6.8 snd all the others in between. If the traction control is not all the way OFF, ( pedal dance) the car bogs down pretty bad. 2800-3100 rpm is a good range to launch it. P.s 18000 miles still on the first clutch lol
You do know that the Si is underrated, right? It usually dynos 185-190 whp @ 2900 lbs... The 1.6t from hyundai/kia is underrated as well, anywhere between 180-185 whp and 195-200 lb-ft wtq...(at least the newer gens). Idk about this Elantra n-lines and why theyre so slow off the line (same problem with the Sonata n-line vs k5 GT), but the kia Forte GT has not problem taking off quick... I have a few timed pulls with dragy in my channel 0-60 in 6.31 -6.4 sec... Im actually kinda surprised how slow that Elantra took off...especially on that 3rd run...wow. Lol
The civic was the only manual transmission and im pretty sure i can shift way better than this dude.. i have that car .. and it goes to 200km/h in no time .. but the guys in mazda and hynfuck .. put it in manual and that will be different game .. driver skills i like to see .. but constructor dont sells Much of manual tranny and that it will desapear 😥
Own both a 23 Elantra n line and a 10th gen Si. The Si feels faster basically everywhere and can actually put power down in corners. The Elantra loves to smoke its inside tire thanks to that open front diff. Si does not like that 1-2 shift at all, slows every race from a dig way down, but always feels more responsive than the n-line. The Elantra is a good buy for what you get though, plus is more daily usable (10th gen is a coupe)
The Mazda is waaay heavier than the other two, almost 400lb more?, I have the Mazda3 turbo as my daily, for real world driving is way more than enough, for performance driving I think the transmission is getting old, 10 years ago it was great, now it is only adequate.
@@kellyyyanneee Mazda doesn't have one, for daily use I believe and 8 speed (which they are allegedly developing) should be enough, the engine has more than enough oomph, the transmission doesn't make it justice (at least is not a CVT ahem ahem Subaru)
I have a 2020 Civic Si coupe. I just test drove a Mazda3 turbo. It was good, and I know it’s faster than the Si, but it didn’t feel like it. It was just missing that fun factor. Why?
I really love Mazda now that they are offering turbo motors with AWD. They just need to shoehorn that motor into the Miata and watch them sell! Lol I will say in the CX-5 Sig we just got, the turbo is all midrange and the transmission does shift before red line. A huge tuner needs to come in and make some upgrade to ECU and TCU. My car is next in line for an upgrade and I'll be trading in my 2015 IS F Sport for a 3 Turbo hatch! The interior on the Mazda is so much nicer than my Lexus.
Just wanna state that the guy in the Elantra is almost always last with the reflexes. Another driver pls :))
I was thinking the same thing like dude. It took 8 tries..... switch drivers please!
First try was good for Elantra N line and it beat the Si. but the other tries. it was as if the driver was sleeping. I have Elantra Sport myself and it beats Si like really easy. Switch driver please lol. and Mazda is just out of this segment as its AWD with a lot more horsepower. I would love to see Mazda turbo race with Elantra N :D .
@@sinccrruon with a racechip the n line beat the mazda 😈 I have the first racechip they deliver for elantra n line.
@@sinccrruon Mazda is also 400lbs heavier
Yea he sleepin
That elantra driver has a reaction time of a granny.
It’s the car
@@SamCarLegion run 3 definitely wasn’t the car
I know for a fact it’s the car, sometimes it goes like it should, sometimes it doesn’t lol
I have the n line it dosent like hard take offs
@@MegaHusseinhussein my cousin has a n line elantra, it launches great. Brake torque it.
We ask and you deliver.thank you. Finally a reviewer that cares about his viewers.
Always
Those manual shifts really killed that SI.
Manuals are slow these days compared to newer autos and of course DCT
@@GodKing804 True
Driver upgrade on manual
If I was driving the Si would’ve hung in there much better 😄
Deadass, the driver lost that shit not the car 😂
Elantra driver is a bit slow to react in every run.🙄
The numbers say Mazda is faster why even blame the driver ? lol Move on kid mazda is faster.
@UCBSTxxGIEX6IhwbBS59VsjQ Nobody is saying it isnt, or even talking about Mazda, dumbass. Still a fact that the Elantra driver is slow? He is right and not saying anything wrong... typical anime weirdos ... All dumbasses
@@kobesn1fan24 mazda better.
@@havoc7154 Mazda is not better in any way lmfao how .. Hyundai is literally #3 in Reliability behind Lexus and Toyota. Kia is #4 Mazda isnt AS reliable and has shit interiors
@@kobesn1fan24 Mazda is better.
Elantra CN7 NLine driver’s reaction was off it almost felt like he did want to race
@@NishitNayakTheAmateurCricketer I don’t think so in the video the CN7 N-Line diver was going after they move not in the right time
We all expected the same outcome, but this was still nice to see. The 3 has more power/AWD but is 400lbs+ heavier. Plus the Trans is like a granny. Love my Mazda3 Turbo Premium+ tho! Can’t beat the aesthetics of the Kodo design!!
My issue with the 3 turbo is it looks like all of the other 3's.. not sporty enough
I agree
@@vroomgc Because they're not trying to be sporty with it. LOL meant for a whole different kind of crowd.
@@ZACH_95_ Well they succeeded then lol.
Mazda has way better curves all around on the body. The elantra looks like a fish with prosthetics imo, and the honda is just boring looking.
Shame on me. I've been watching, liking and commenting for over 2 years not realizing I hadn't even subscribed! Just did. Keep bringing them on.
All good bud :)
@@SamCarLegion Would be interesting to put the mazda 3 turbo vs accord 2.0
I literally just looked at a 6 speed manual Elantra N Line at the Hyundai dealership. They exist.
Thank you for your comment- In Canada it only comes in DCT for the new 2021 elantra n line
Be sure to wait for the 2022 with the Veloster N engine!
Yeah, my 21 n-line is a 6 speed manual
Something about ripping on a 4 banger economy car is so much fun. All great, fun cars but I would definitely choose the Mazda. So classy.
I did last week
Classy? Lol
@@mharro88 if you’ve sat in one you def will know what he’s talking about
@@Grimesitty I have it's ok but not classy
@@mharro88 watch Any major car review of the Mazda 3 and you’ll hear the
Gush over how premium the interiors are, you’re in the minority my dude
Perfect video for me. Everyone I know suggested the Mazda 3 or Civic Si, and I got an Elantra N Line instead.
After the test drive, I couldn't stop talking about it. It drives so well.
The Mazda 3 have way more power stupid
Promoting Hyundai eh?
@@mbenton6 I test drove a 2021 Mazda 3 Premium hatchback. I went over a speed bump and was confused about how unsettled the car got, so I went around the block and hit the speed bump again. I didn't like it. Mazda focused on Interior quality, not drivability or how it feels to drive. Hyundai did the complete opposite lol
Honda is probably more of a drivers car, with a decent interior...best of both worlds?
@@trofimlysenko4576 nah, I just like mine. It's dumb looking, super cheap interior, but it makes weird gurgly/farty noises and is fun
@@mbenton6 I did. It's boring
The manual shifting in the Civic SI kills its momentum every time!
Yes thank you the 32lb flywheel really doesn’t help lol
The rev hang doesn’t help either. You can shift fast but you’ll damage your clutch/transmission doing it.
I love manuals, but they just can’t compete with new autos
A lot of Civic Si owners have no idea that a Elantra GT N Line is faster they have no clue
@@lilmoris1. The technology of today’s 🚗 show manuals are a thing of the past. You get more of a driving experience,but that’s it.
Mazda needs to bring back the speed. I have a 2012 speed3 and to this day it still puts a smile on my face when I open it up. Zoom Zoom!
I had a 1st gen and brought it up to a little more than 325HP to the wheels. It had so much torque steer it was scary as hell. It handled like a dream though and would beat anything in it's class. It would be nice to see a speed3 with at least 300hp, AWD and have the comfort of their newer interior design. I've waited for a new speed3 since the 2nd gen was introduced and sadly it hasn't happened.
@@ryanb418 And it never will again. It was very niche and sold like crap.
@@brenttitus2134 Initially it sold faster than it could be manufactured but really by the time the 2nd gen came out the market had shifted and the design was already antiquated enough even with the changes the 2nd gen brought forward. The prime reason another speed isn't being produced now is that Mazda says it's both cost and risk associated. Like you said.....it's a niche product. It's not a sure fire profitable move for Mazda to make one now.
Basically what the 2.5t is. Just got to wait for a tune
Zoom zoom is right
The Mazda is awesome, got great performance, (a little bit over the top) But the Elantra performance had improved in the last 4 years with the new Gamma-II engine generation. Let say that I want to see this again later with the Elantra N. Now better that we have an whole family of N, Veloster N, Elantra N, Kona N and Sonata N-Line. 👍
I have the Mazda3 turbo, great car and excellent performance, but for outright acceleration the transmission is really pushing back the engine capability. I estimate with a more modern 8 speed, it would improve at least half a second the 0 to 60 performance.
The elantra N will crush the mazda.
@@AndresSalazarAutos you have a massive point there. Some cars have great numbers by paper but when the car hit the road, reality is not that great. For example Veloster 1.6T 2013. The engine prodice 201hp, but, by the weight and transmission the 0 to 60 is limited to 7.3s. The Hyundai Accent 2019 [manual] produce 130hp and make the run 0 to 60 in 7.4s. Faster than the Corolla, Civic, Sentra, Elantra and Forte [non-performance models]
Sincerely I have a Kia Forte GT Turbo with the same power from the Elantra N-Line here in the video, my Kia weight 2,762 lbs. I can say my kia run with Civic Si, with Mini Countryman, with Mustang 4 cylinders turbo, with Audi S4 2.0t, All a can say is I have good battles. The true battle I have is in the mountains and the Forte handle great with all season tires, the next change is the tires to summer for better handling, I don't know this Elantra N-Line have a summer tires option, but need summer tires and LSD is the best way to get better traction from the dig. Need to test the same race with Mazda run on regular fuel.
@@QuiquePR Lol... a 4cyl mustang has 110 more horsepower and a shit ton more torque. Your kia doesnt stand a chance unless the driver is asleep.
Wow at the Mazda very impressive you can hear the turbo
The Mazda has way more power then the other two and barely is pulling away. Disappointed...
The transmission holds it’s true potential back. If they at least put a dual clutch in it it would be a type-r, veloster N level problem.
@@TheKasai23 It's heavier and the AWD adds more parasitic loss so the difference is not as dramatic as you might think
Mazda 3 is soooo overhyped
@@mbenton6 stop hating about what? I have both civic and mazda 3. I'm just saying based from what I have and what I experience! Duh!
The Elantra N is beautiful now. Beautiful lines. The Mazda is nice too but seems a bit tame in design. The SI looks like a rocket and has nice rims and tail lights Not too many Mazda dealer networks so I’d be afraid to get it serviced
That Honda is trash lol wtf
South Korean car designs are too exaggerated.
im sry but the elantra doesnt look that cool to me
@@metaldreams3595 I agree the Mazda seems the sportiest and the most luxurious to me
There’s actually quite a lot of dealers for a less prevalent product.. the only thing I think you’d need to worry about is the cost of maintenance not being able to get it maintenanced. If you get one and don’t have a dealer in your area for some reason- please find a way to get it serviced at an actual Mazda center. lil jiffy lube mechanics are not trained properly on those engines like certified Mazda professionals are. Your car will not last long. It’s pricier to have a Mazda but you can have a very reliable car if you treat it properly
All wheal drive a more hp what’s yours expected
Mazda all the way, and it's AWD, which helps with rain and snow.
Nooo the civic with traction control ALL The way off can launch with break hold 😭😭 put me behind the wheel. Lets redo this. Haha I’m just biased, I like the aftermarket community with the civic too.
@RUclips Sucks do you data or just made up your own fact?
These cars may have similar hp and price but they are 3 different cars for different things really. I would say the mazda is the nicest and most comfortable hands down, its for cruising but its the worst in terms of raw performance. The Si is a daily sedan that has some mild sport to it but its not really a high performance vehicle like the type R or the N cars. The Elantra N was created to be a high performance sedan. So it really is in a class of its own for the price that its at. The Civic Si truly competes with the Elantra N-Line
That is an N line. The N hasn’t arrived yet. The N would beat the Mazda.
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@@jjchockey if the civic was tuned n had the right parts, it would easily beat these other cars
Did you not watch the video? The Mazda absolutely shit on both of these cars
They might have similar HP but the Mazda has 320lbs of torgue
Mazda really make a Quantum Leap since 2020, in all areas. I think Mazda is in their own league.
As a new Mazda owner, yes their new cars are really nice and premium built on the interior. But they desperately need a newer faster automatic transmission. Yes, the 6 speed auto is a good reliable transmission, but a 7-8 speed transmission would make their cars faster
Mazda the past 10 years have been death traps
@@bradleypetersen241 wtf are you talking about idiot? Mazda has very safe cars
@@silimarina. ya at 30 mph
@@bradleypetersen241 Look at some crash test score idiot. For example Mazda 3 got one of the best scores in 2019 in EuroNCAP.
Someone can explain to the elantra driver that he has to leave at the same time as the others, not a car behind them. terrible work in all went back 🤦♂️
It's the shit Hyundai design team and management deliberately made the car to prevent from hard launching...In order to race eith these cars you gonna have to make 1 to 2 second headstart....there's no other way
The sound from Mazdas GoPro
Was it mounted on the turbo or something
I think we all knew that the Mazda would win the contest but it's interesting to see the differences between those cars. Maybe brake torquing would have helped the Elantra. Well the Si is manual, makes it harder from a dig but still a good car.
brake torque may or may not help the elantra hyundai's even the manual once it sense high brake pressure and accelerate input it cuts the throttle.. try the hand brake u'll get better results
Hyundai/Kia have awful traction control that cuts off all the power. That's why in the rounds when traction control was off, the N Line Elantra was doing much better and beating the Si.
@@braetonwilson4296 100% correct and unless you know that you would just assume the Elantra driver was bad at accelerating. Although his reaction time is slow
All the damn time. I knew the Mazda would win. I can’t find a single video where the Mazda didn’t win
"Brake torquing" the Elantra makes it way worse just like you see in this video.. I have an N line and just mashing the gas off the line doesn't produce this lazy ass start, just a little turbo lag in first gear until 3000 rpm
I never thought I’d see the day an Elantra goes head to head with an SI in a drag race and be this close or better. I am now a believer.
Wait until you see the Elantra n
@@Joseph04film that is elandra n
@@sreerajb6444that's N line
N has a wing behind
@@chunggwa sorry. My mistake
The new n has 288 hp. Its a monster.
My buddy got a brand new si and I couldn't find one myself so I ended up with a N Line and we have drag raced so many times. Both of ours are 6spd manuals and I win every time. He always has me at the dig from a stop but half way through second I'm always passing him and roll races instantly gives me the advantage. Can't tell if the elantra driver is bad or the dct is bad because I have only heard real good about hyundais wet clutch so I would be surprised if that was actually the transmission.
This goes to show the Mazda traction control is industry leading. It performs BETTER when on (I think it’s called skyactiv g vector or something like that) this is a performance traction control system
Mazda needs to up it and at least put a dual clutch in this and then it’ll be a real problem for everyone 4 turbo’d. This engine is extremely strong compared to all the turbo 4s out now it just needs a different transmission.
Mazda defeated the dual clutch Elantra N Line so I think their transmission is just fine. Mazda is designing an 8 speed automatic that they will be adding to new models.
It won't happen. Mazda is pretty confortable with their torque converter tranmission.
Def not better than the VW turbo 4's
@@andrewthach1989 that’s a big negative. This 2.5 turbo is the best in the segment the weak link is the transmission. If the put a 8speed or dual clutch it’s absolutely game over for everyone.
Mazda won't change the transmission. It's very matured and extremely reliable. Reliable transmission reduces cost not only for owners but also for the manufacturer due to less free warranty orders.
I bought a 22 N Line, off the line nothing amazing! Damn engine seems to bog on the DCT from 1-2 gear driving normal and I hate that. I’ve yet to try off the line full throttle. IIt’s not gonna do great dragging. It shines mid range, though. Overall I’m happy.
I have one too. Hearing a pedal commander and JB4 fixes this off the line issue!
The Elantra surprised me a bit. The Si would probably kill both of the others in an autocross, as they are ruling in SCCA G Street class racing. The Mazda looks like a great car but I’ll pass until they get rid of the live rear axle and put a dual clutch in it.
I totally with you if they all were autos the civic would’ve washed them
No the SI won't. It doesn't have 250hp and 311 torque like the Mazda. The Mazda is closer to the Type R.
@@Marlon_J On an autocross course the Mazda will not fare well. It’s 400 pounds heavier, has 7” wide wheels, a solid rear axle, and torque converter transmission. Autocross isn’t where it will shine.
@@aroundomaha that's really not alot heavier for the amount of HP and especially torque on the mazda.
Mazda, Elantra and in the bottom Honda is no surprise... just take the L and leave at that... always some technical Bull**** bro stop
civic si training his self each rounds for better fast shift
Great job Sam you earned my subscription God bless Canada is killing this drag race reviews.
Thank you!
Me 2
the mazda is 32k. Elantra is 24k. I would get 8k change and spend 2k upgrade to smoke the mazda easily. 6k for girls
Girls wont go out with you if you drives an Elantra 😂
@@loyscgodlike if you are fat and short then not;p, but if you are a chad you can drive a POS and still get it
@@panhuragan4388 facts 😂😭
bro this is the elantra n. it starts at 34k
the regular elantra goes 0-60 in 8.4 seconds. it’s slow as shit
Fact check.... the elantra N line can be had with a 6 speed manual. Also the mazda 3 is way more expensive than these 2 cars and has an engine that is an entire liter bigger than the others. There was no contest.
Canada doesn’t get a manual Elantra N Line - your fact check is fact checked 👍
@@SamCarLegion LOL. USA gets it. My bad.
@@SamCarLegion whocares the rest of the world does.
The guy driving the Elantra ruined this comparison. Complete wash.
Now if they would just give the mazda3 an independent rear suspension and an 8 speed with a quicker steering trio. It'd be the everything killer of the segment
I have the Mazda3 turbo and the rear torsion beam doesn't kill the handling, in fact the fastest FWD car in the Nurburgring has a rear torsion beam (Megane RS Trophy), but I agree with you on the transmission, it isn't bad but the engine is more capable than the transmision allows.
@@AndresSalazarAutos totally agree. The AWD cleans the torsion beam problem up. This is the next level speed3, but that transmission is the weak link.
Mazda has just finished designing an 8 speed and will include in new models starting from 2023 model.
@@braetonwilson4296 yes! From my understanding they are not putting that one into the mazda 3 tho...
Power specs of the Mazda put it up with Veloster N or Elantra N not the N Line.
310 TQ vs less than 200 TQ , no comparison.
Mazda is a very refined built car , fantastic looks , good technology and reliability.
Even if the Elantra reaction time is slower, and i don't think so, it beat the hot hatch benchmark for the last 15 years. This Dct is tricky to launch. I got a Forte gt with the same dct, and i think the Firte launch better than the Elantra. I don't know why touhg...The fact that you can not rev-brake more than 2000 rpm does not help, that's why the SI exploded faster, but the quikness of the DCT take's over pretty fast. I really think the price/performence goest to the Elantra. Yes the Mazda is faster, and it must be with 4wd and 50hp advantage and 311 pft, but it coast almost 10k more than the two other. Two. But it's always fun to see that kind of comparison...Nice job!👍
I have a gt2. I think its faster then the stated 6.7sec 0-60 mph. With traction and stability control off and manual shifting the dct, i seems to be closer to 6 sec.
@@jayniks74 Yeah, exactly. with mine, on new pavement, othetwise the tires have hard time to grip, i also feel it is closer to 6 than 7 sec. Try to drag a Accord 2.0T the other day, the first 4-5 sec, i was right beside him. After that, he eat me as supposed to. After all , it got more than 100hp advantage......Love alot my Gt!🤙
And with extra weight on mazda???
The mazda costs $3k more than the civic si. Not $10k. And you get all leather interior in addition to the vastly superior performance.
@@kylematthews3683 Got lether to kn my Forte GT.....Keep lane assist, it drive by itself for 30 sec, pretty cool, emergency braking, adaptive cruise...etc...All the goodies.....for 30k Canadian dollars.
Out of the 3, which puts a bigger smile on ur face? That's the real winner. Don't forget the twistes.
1. Subjective.
2. Not everyone has access to twisty roads.
3. Lots of Si owners mod and tune to become faster in a straight line.
so.
@@M4B21S88 wished more ppl know that straight line isn't everything. And if ur not a stick driver, there's so much ur missing. But thats another story
@@vicp8772 the Si purpose is for the drivers experience. You’re absolutely right, it is NOT meant to be a drag car.
However, the purpose of this video is a drag race, and many Si owners mod to become more competitive in a straight line, have you NOT read the comments here as to how they’re disappointed the Si lost? I mean, i think it did just fine. I wouldnt expect anymore from a stock Si...
If anything the Si , somehow, outperformed an awd car with 320 lb-ft tq off the line in some of the digs of this video...which is odd lol
Love your videos keep it up!!! Can't wait for more affordable drag races!
Thank you
Would have been nice to have a summary of all the runs.
That Mazda is legit in the class. So torquey, what do you think is an acceptable comp for it?
Thankfully the a proper Elantra N is in development with a slightly tuned version of the Veloster N's engine
N line
Yess sirrr
Had no idea the new Mazda 3 where this fast
And reliable, esp the 20/21's damn near bulletproof. Cant be said about Civics the last 4-5 years. Not sure about Elantra's.
@@junkiexl86just keep in mind you’re paying the premium $$ for that reliability. If you treat it like a Honda or Hyundai you won’t have a car for very long- the engineering is much more sophisticated and complex. The differences lie underneath the hoods of these cars and the servicing standards of them. Honda and Hyundai don’t require much to stay running
Sleepy Joe driving the Elantra or something?
Hah! Indeed sleepy joe👍👍👍
Had my Lava Orange, 6 sd. manual N-line for about a year now. First of all, never try to run anybody from a dig with traction control on. Computer cuts power to save clutch and tire wear. Second, try to do a 30 m.p.h.roll. Peak torque comes in at 2500 and stays till 5000 rom. Should take any SI new or old. I do. FYI, just finished 2,000 road trip, comfortable, got 42.2 m.p.g. on highway. And cheaper than an SI.
Next the Mazda 3 turbo vs 2.0T accord vs the k5 or the Sonota n line nice vid man keep them coming 👍👌
I think that's more of the Mazda6's territory
@@MrSwaggernaut83 the new Mazda 3 is faster than the 6 👀
@@gogosport3562 yea but I'm saying in terms of putting it up against the accord and k5, sorta an apples and oranges comparison. Just like if you put the Miata in there it'll beat them all
@@MrSwaggernaut83 Now a Miata vs a 3 would be a fun race, should be pretty close, with a slight edge to the 3 in a straight line, then on a track to see the MX-5 show what it's great at.
@@garys2157 true yea I forget it's not really that powerful moreso just sporty. My point stands though, put a Porsche 911 in there and THEN we'd have a bad race haha. Just saying comparing within classes is really only place where the these races make any sense
I feel like that honda could have been shifted a little quicker
You can definitely shift it quicker
No lift shift enable! :-D
Whoever was driving the si can't drive lmao
I own si and this guy doesn't know how to shift.
Interesting vid. I also didn't know I hadn't subscribed, which I did just now. Thanks for a lot of fun comparison vids. I think dry dcts have slow start, but shifts very fast afterwards. This explains elantra's performance here. Break launch would have helped Elantra a lot.
Thank you
Throw the Elantra driver away. That car is much quicker than it’s made out to be.
I just bought the Mazda3 turbo and 2 days later I come across this video. Sheeeesh!
Congratulations
Thank you so much, hopefully I can start making RUclips videos about it
Great video man. I've been waiting for an Elantra N Line dragrace for a while now, thanks for bringing it. I would also appreciate if you do a dragrace featuring Elantra N Line, Civic Si, and Kia Forte GT please. Much love
I am trying to find one 😬. Thank you. One more is coming like this but not forte
@@SamCarLegion As a Forte GT owner, I just want to say I’ve been patiently waiting for y’all to include it in some drags 😅😂
We’d take them all I think. I’m FBO so idk
That Mazda 3 is stunning, mazda always seems to have amazing quality for a fantastic price
Fantastic price? Mazda Is more expensive than Honda, Toyota, Nissan, kia and all others. That's why they don't sell much.
@@fakedazzleful For what you are getting yes it is a fantastic price. 250 hp 310 lb/ft tourque, awd, great handling, just as reliable as a Toyota or a Honda, premium quality interior and it looks good. So yeah it is fantastic for the price. Only downside is the rear passenger room. Other than that, its better than its competition. They don't sell much because people are stuck in the past when it comes Toyota and Honda.
@@fakedazzleful The quality is far better
@@fakedazzleful fantastic price than acura, infinity and lexus. What r u thinking!
@@fakedazzleful And it's better than those cars
They found the worst driver for the Elantra to make the video 🤣
the car is just trash.
@@havoc7154 nah, the driver is...
@@havoc7154 the Elantra N line is 0-60 in 5.8 seconds its not bad
I'm watching this in my 20 civic si,,waiting for my girlfriend to get into the dmv,,I love it too many people don't shift gears now
I outgrew manual shifting years ago.
@@billpii6314 how do u out grow driving manuals lol
Can't wait to see that the new 2022 elantra N line will look like in these types of races.
Much better the smartstream motor is way better 1.6t
Dayyyum Mazda beat all of them 😳 Nice work Mazda,
What did you expect 🤡
It's awd and your surprised, if the other 2 were awd it'd be different but if a frog had a tail it wouldn't bump its ass lol 😆.
@@lsjionredlinesupercharged2049 I’m sure the Mazda will gap ur uglyass Saturn
The Elantra driver is not doing the car justice 😭
Honestly, many Civic buyers want a cheap Hatchback automatic transmission Si. Honda make it happen now.
I've been saying for years, I guess decades now, that I'll buy a Civic SI ASAP when there's a DCT or automatic transmission. Disappointed every time there's a new generation, and hear SI is manual only. Why don't you want my money, Honda?
@@TheSuburban15 It’s frustrating too because the DCT auto Hyundai Elantra Sport/N-Line and auto Kia Forte GT is filling the void for a ~200hp 19K-21K compact fun sedan. The competition is beating them to market and people are buying DCT Volkswagon Jetta GLI’s in droves. Yet Honda still won’t give the Civic Si an automatic transmission (the one from the Accord 2.0T or 1.5T might work). Meanwhile the Acura ILX (which is supposed to be the Luxury Si like the TSX/RSX/Integra/Prelude kinda were) is literally pricing themselves out of the running when the car starts at $26k and can jump to $35k. For $26k, people want AWD Subaru WRX’s not an overpriced $26k rebranded 9th Gen Civic with an ILX badge. Especially not when the 11th Gen Civic is on the market and has an even better interior.
Brake torquing the Elantra/Sonata N-Line usually helps.
Doesn’t work lol. I have one.
Did you launch the Mazda with two pedals?
Yes
I think the elantra hp is a little underrated for it to be keeping up with the mazda in the roll races that hard.
More gears than the mazda. Also mazda focuses ecu tunes on reliability. Not peak power. The skyactiv platform has more potential with a simple tune.
Nice DragRace, I love Mazda 3 turbo!!! Good job guys!!!
Thank you
@@SamCarLegion hi Sam, it would be interesting to see Mazda 3 Speed 1st gen vs 2nd Gen vs the new turbo
@@oswaldosamayoa1678 sounds like smth i can do
This was decided from the opening stats on the cars. Would have been nicer to see a comparable Mazda3 trim (FWD, around 200 HP trim)
awd is standard in the 3
Mazda killed it !!!!
I wonder if they fully turned off the traction control on the si or if they just pressed the button
I was wondering the same thing 😂
The mazda 3 doesn't really belong in this race, its really a class above the other two in terms of performance, not really comparable numbers
But price wise not far off. True the Mazda is better built and a higher quality interior.
@@GA-wq8xq There's a significant difference in price. The Mazda 3 Turbo base price is at least $5k more than the other two, and in this class of car, that's substantial.
@@chuckd7423 The Si will be around $28k I thought and the base 3 turbo is $30k so there is a gap of c. $2k which is still something I agree
@@GA-wq8xq the si msrp is a bit over 25k, where the heck did you get 28k from?
Are y'all taking applications to replace that Elantra driver?
just curious which technique you guys used to launch the Elantra?
Many lol
i hear u man.. was just curious as i see it just doesn't want to come out the hole.. could be hyundai's tune, i have only driven the older versions i realize even the manual once the ECM sees high brake pressure and accelerate input it cuts the throttle every time.. i don't know if this newer elantra has a manual hand brake if that would help but if u guys find the formula let me know
If you fart into the seat it might catch the other 2
Not sure when this was shot, but my n-line has a 6 speed manual.
아방이 스타트 하는거봐~ ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 너무 티나잖아.
ㅋㅋ 대놓고 조작질같네요
저런 테스트가 개판 스타트가 너무 티나네
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 대놓고 너무 티나게 한다
It's Hyundai's fault for softening the launch by design. Hyundai president = fail
Sport mode is a complete waste of time in the Mazda. It hold the gears way to long and over revs the engine. Normal mode is much better.
It’s a good video. But can we at least acknowledge that the Civic is the older out of the three. It is at least 4 years older. Cars have progressed so much in that time. Can you please try it out with the 2022 Civic Si coming out later this year.
Sure
The si is good but stock it’s held back by its clutch and rev hang.
The si would smoke these two cars if you added a Hondata +9 psi tune and a clutch that would support that said tune or just stick with the +6 psi tune and stock clutch
@@valkyrie743 "If the Civic were modded it would win." Says a lot about how overrated the Si is.
Not in the same category of cars, the all wheel drive Mazda3 has around 60hp more then the civic and also cost way more. Not sure about the Elantra. The Mazda3 all wheel drive has a lot more in common with a WRX then a civic si.
@@fredzeppelin3969 your right that same argument could be made for all cars but the si is not overrated. For 25k in 2017 you got active dampers, LSD, tighter steering in sport mode, a rear wing for actual downforce not just for looks. You don't get that in any other car in 2017 unless you pay more. The gti got active dampers but if you put 3k more. Honda intended it to be fun and taken to the track which almost nobody except professional drivers did and they love it. Regular people only care about 0 to 60 so they were disappointed but it wasn't meant for them. Remember I said downforce it generated by the wing? Yeah that slows the car down in a drag race. Great car in track but not this format it's terrible.
Not really sure what the Mazda was doing there. At least make it a more fair comparison. It had 50 more hp and almost 120 lb ft more than both cars. Not to mention it’s also an awd. Was a winner before the race started which is always boring
Mazda had 400 pounds more in curb weight.
Mazda rules!
Good video. You are improving the drag races.
Can you please find better drivers ? The civic si driver was misshifting and was a sore in the eye to watch.
All the Civic Si driver needed to do was to redline all his shifts from 2nd gear instead of shifting every 2 seconds. He can't even take off the line properly.
@@nash6006 Actually the 10th gen Si is much faster if you shift at 6k rpm or right before as the power falls off after that. Redline is 6500-6600 rpm.
I have a 2020 civic si and I understand it’s very difficult to launch it if someone doesn’t know exactly how to launch it. Car and driver posted 0-60 at 6.3 but motortrend did at 6.8 snd all the others in between. If the traction control is not all the way OFF, ( pedal dance) the car bogs down pretty bad. 2800-3100 rpm is a good range to launch it. P.s 18000 miles still on the first clutch lol
@@bosemanracing3800 what a fun and great car huh. I have 202 too coupe and oh I love the way it looks
I've subscribed and I'm glad I did.
Keep it coming!
Welcome :)
Problem with SI to turn TC completely off takes 10 steps to do and if you don’t turn it off completely car will not be as fast
Does it actually help to be completely off??
@@Stormtrooper-oc4vn Yes, the vsa will cut throttle if it senses a loss of traction. That kills a turbo car's momentum
@@darkknight097 oh thanks a lot!!
Why would you test the mazda 3 with these other two? Its way more expensive, has AWD, and is way more powerful.
Tbh, the civic si should of had a tune for 20hp or so, yes its the lightest but it also has the least horsepower. But job job Mazda
You do know that the Si is underrated, right? It usually dynos 185-190 whp @ 2900 lbs...
The 1.6t from hyundai/kia is underrated as well, anywhere between 180-185 whp and 195-200 lb-ft wtq...(at least the newer gens).
Idk about this Elantra n-lines and why theyre so slow off the line (same problem with the Sonata n-line vs k5 GT), but the kia Forte GT has not problem taking off quick...
I have a few timed pulls with dragy in my channel 0-60 in 6.31 -6.4 sec...
Im actually kinda surprised how slow that Elantra took off...especially on that 3rd run...wow. Lol
@@M4B21S88 ah wow
Would the hond type r be a better competitor or is it considered a different class compare to these three cars?
Driver mod needed for the civic si
Finally found some one that said it🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Wow great video man !
Thank you
Is anyone else hypnotized by the wheels changing direction when the cars are speeding. Especially on the civic SI.
What?? Lol
Mazda 3 turbo sounds like a jet🤣 I love it
Correction: the Elantra N Line is offered in DCT AND manual
The civic was the only manual transmission and im pretty sure i can shift way better than this dude.. i have that car .. and it goes to 200km/h in no time .. but the guys in mazda and hynfuck .. put it in manual and that will be different game .. driver skills i like to see .. but constructor dont sells Much of manual tranny and that it will desapear 😥
@@ericfrappier5492 no civic s.i is slow calm down.
Own both a 23 Elantra n line and a 10th gen Si. The Si feels faster basically everywhere and can actually put power down in corners. The Elantra loves to smoke its inside tire thanks to that open front diff. Si does not like that 1-2 shift at all, slows every race from a dig way down, but always feels more responsive than the n-line. The Elantra is a good buy for what you get though, plus is more daily usable (10th gen is a coupe)
The Mazda is waaay heavier than the other two, almost 400lb more?, I have the Mazda3 turbo as my daily, for real world driving is way more than enough, for performance driving I think the transmission is getting old, 10 years ago it was great, now it is only adequate.
They should at least put a dual clutch in it.
@@kellyyyanneee Mazda doesn't have one, for daily use I believe and 8 speed (which they are allegedly developing) should be enough, the engine has more than enough oomph, the transmission doesn't make it justice (at least is not a CVT ahem ahem Subaru)
But the torque, awd, and hp help it more
8 speed would be adequate as it wouldn't be hunting gears like a 10 speed.
I have a 2020 Civic Si coupe. I just test drove a Mazda3 turbo. It was good, and I know it’s faster than the Si, but it didn’t feel like it. It was just missing that fun factor. Why?
Civic Si needs a driver mod..
It wouldnt really change the outcome in the end sadly.
I really love Mazda now that they are offering turbo motors with AWD. They just need to shoehorn that motor into the Miata and watch them sell! Lol I will say in the CX-5 Sig we just got, the turbo is all midrange and the transmission does shift before red line. A huge tuner needs to come in and make some upgrade to ECU and TCU. My car is next in line for an upgrade and I'll be trading in my 2015 IS F Sport for a 3 Turbo hatch! The interior on the Mazda is so much nicer than my Lexus.
Im also lookin at an upgrade and the Mazda 3 turbo hatch is on my list ;)
Mazda has that torque and awd
Awd makes a huge difference
Ok now you’re racing that Mazda3
Great intro!
Thank you
I would really like to see how a Kia stinger gt line 2.0 performs in a race since there isn’t any videos on it . (Not the 2.5t)
Not available in canada
love to see the 2022 stinger AWD 2.0 in a race like this race
Is Elantra's driver an old man?
I understand that this was a drag race but during the 13 minutes it would have been nice to get a quick shot of the interior of each vehicle.
I love you Mazda ❤
I swear you guys have at least one guys that has the worst reaction time