Barking Riverside Station is Now Open!
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2022
- There’s a new Overground Station on the network! Scheduled to open in December 2022, it opened up five month early - so I went down for a look around … but sensibly waited until the Wednesday following TfL’s guidance to not travel on the really hot days.
Roger also went and blogged about it here: busandtrainuser.com/2022/07/2...
Diamond Geezer also has a view: diamondgeezer.blogspot.com/20...
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This video made me think of the birth of the railways (almost) two centuries ago. A brand-new modern railway line and ditto station right in the middle of nowhere, waiting for the potential passengers to come and live around it.
Me too - also very similar to how they built the DLR through the Isle of Dogs when it was still a rundown dockland.
This is how we should be doing it
Exactly how ‘Metroland’ and much of Suburbia came to exist, London is always expanding but the growth along what was previously land for industrial use along the river is much better than expanding into the green belt.
@@paulm2467it's Londonstan
@@Anticommunism99 oh look, yet another Russian racist, probably from a bot or factory, your attempt to hide your origins hasn't worked properly.
The bicycle storage room should be emulated everywhere. Great idea.
presumably the turnstiles are to stop you taking your cycle that way.
There is a glass cube bike storage area at Lea Bridge station.
Yeah, need to emulate those awesome Dutch stations!
One already exists at Wimbledon
Not the best though
I believe they are currently building a bike storage facility at Kingston, so that will make two.
Let's hope they don't put in turnstiles that make walking a bike through impossible!
Wimbledon has it.
It's built!
Twickenham too. There’s a door on the side that leads a surprisingly long way to the cycle storage room.
@@rogink bikes can squeeze in next to the turnsile or go outside of cycle area and go into the station the main way
What I find cool about Barking Riverside station is that it reminds me of many Asian elevated metro systems. There are actually very few stations in the UK where a railway line runs on an elevated viaduct for a prolonged period of time, so that's pretty neat!
Makes up a bit for the loss of Island Gardens.
Echoes of older industrial Liverpool too \m/
There's quite a few in London, its just the viaduct arches have been given a wall on each side and a business inside
Bring back the Liverpool Overhead Railway!
Which begs an interesting question as to why it is on a viaduct at all. Modern electric trains can negotiate steep gradients (I noticed a 1 in 29 and 1 in 32 sign at St Pancras Thameslink). Why not a ground lever station rather than on stilts, which looks exposed in winter? Do they want easy road crossings under the line? Options for an extension over the river to Thamesmead?
Excellent video Geoff! It would be good to see a Barking Riverside to Central London race, I think it would be interesting. You always ace the new opening videos!
Literally every rail enthusiast in England has been expecting (and indeed waiting) this video to come out.
Can’t credit Geoff enough for continuing to publish new content. 👏
I haven’t lived in London since ‘95 (in Amsterdam). As someone who loved trains from childhood I accidentally came across you on first on twitter. If I am right you travelled to all stations in England.
Anyway, this was informative and your humourous presentation made me laugh. Thank you.
I’m so happy to see an Indoor Cycle Parking. It’s going to be great for commuters.
Except for having to maneuver your bike through those silly turnstiles!
I agree and other stations should live up to having more of these especially the popular and busy ones
@@connecticutmultimodaltrans8226 There's a separate entrance door for bikes. The turnstiles are to keep bikes out of that door, which leads to the main flow corridor.
These videos are so handy as I have a fear of heights. I hate very long escalators. So this helps me view if I can or can't get of at this station. Thank you ❤️
The wide-angle shots are ON POINT in this video.
I'm really glad this station exists. It looks great (both the interior and exterior) and it's new life to an area that DESPERATELY needed it.
The area's completely empty! Barking, Upney, Becontree and Dagenham Dock are far better placed for denser residential areas. Maybe in a decade's time (or two) when the development is fully finished it will be more useful than existing stations but not right now.
@@LyricalWax That's the whole point though, the station is ready now for when it's needed later. The people who move in to the new developments will be able to start using the station immediately.
@@LightbulbTedbear2 seems a bit unfair on already densely populated areas which have been criminally underserved by public transport for decades and are crying out for more Tube stations when there is a station being built in an area yet to be populated.
Another fast way to attempt to get into Central London would be to change to a C2C to Fenchurch Street at Barking (since it's a same platform interchange).
Need to do that at race as a full video at some point Geoff!
Here are the routes I've thought of so far
1. Clippers into London
2. Clippers into Woolwich, Liz into town
3. Overground to Blackhorse Road, Victoria Line
4. Overground to Wanstead Park, Liz into town from Forest Gate
5. Overground to Barking, C2C to Fenchurch Street, Tube to town.
(Also Bond Street will probably beat Brent X West to become 2577, I think...)
Also possible: OG to Barking, District/H&C into town.
@@theprodigal72 Quicker to add Eliz line from Whitechapel rather than trog all the way on H&C.
Will be interesting to see, but I think. Barking to Fenchurch St. will be quickest.
mornington crescent.
@@rogerdines6244 Depends on where the finish is - if it's where Geoff said (Oxford Circus) then the Fenchurch Street - Bank (either via Tower Hill/Monument or not) interchange might ruin that idea.
@@chrisoddy8744 surely charing cross/trafalgar square should be the finish as it is where the distances are measured from.
Almost my neck of the woods. Barking Riverside is a housing development that was supposed to have 10,800 homes but was halted after 1,500 homes until the station was finished. But it's being dwarfed by the new estate being built through Dagenham and Rainham along the Thames looking to provide another 40,000 homes...
Beam Park? That isn't along the Thames though. There is a vast expanse of land, the A13 and rail lines between the Thames and Beam Park. I know there are a lot of flats in the Beam Park development but surely not 40,000 homes.
@@lombardo8 You are correct about Beam Park, and yes, that is supposed to have 40,000 homes, all in low-rise accommodations. But Beam Park appears to be part of a bigger plan to build homes across that whole area, linking up the various estates that already exist, all through that belt of land. It's not been stated how many homes in total for the entire area. Many have been connected to extensions to Docklands Light Railway to Dagenham Dock and Rainham, for example, as well as a potential new crossing over the Thames to Belvedere...
After the new station Renwick road is built, a connection from there to dagenham docks and beam park can be built for C2C to Grays. It will then be easy to go to and from the new developments.
@@darkstarrysky7756 Which would be good, but means sharing the tracks with C2C, so they will have to sort out timetabling issues. It might not be feasible since it's a lot more track to share, and it's also still used by freight trains too. But we can dream...
What Dagenham could really use is a solid north-south connection that can deal with all the east-west lines going through it, as well as the A13 and the A12. I think a tram line or trolleybus might be the best approach there, since the Heathway and Whalebone Lane are always solid with traffic.
Also, apparently it will cost £54 million to restore Dagenham East station so that C2C trains can stop there one again. But given the new film studio being built in the area, it might be worthwhile... and means Dagenham East might be a feasible alternative for a north-south connection instead of Dagenham Heathway...
Nice to see my old boss Matt being interviewed. Was one of the best jobs I ever had working in the BRL project office and was quite sad I was driven out by a now-former manager there but these things happen. Area is good, what Matt has done is to be only applauded and I will certainly be taking the train route over there to see how the station has come on from when I first saw the piling going in all those years ago. Thanks for this Geoff!
They usually allow for slack in the timetable at major stations and terminus stations to counter possible delays. Two examples
- Bush Hill Park to Enfield Town is timetabled as 7 minutes even though the train does this in 3 minutes.
- Cheshunt to Broxbourne (on the train to Hertford East) is timetabled as 6 minutes, even though the train does this in 4 minutes.
Geoffs eyes lit up. You've got a Cafe??!! Thinking about his next cup of tea.
District Line trains do open both their doors at Barking on the other platform I'm a train driver and when I call at Barking I see them do it at times.
Barking is my local station and I use the Goblin to get to north london frequently so having the line extended further into the borough is really a very pleasant and welcome addition. As for Barking station itself, well, not the most pleasant place to be and is increasingly unable to handle the amount of people using it - overall, its in urgent need of being regenerated. There appears to be some work going on to improve the station, but from what I can tell things haven't budged in months! Even more annoyingly, various stalls selling tat have been allowed to set up shop right by the entrance which have only made things even more crowded whilst not really adding anything of value.
Hopefully the extension to Barking Riverside will bring about the improvements at Barking that you mentioned. It’s important that travellers (commuters especially) have facilities that are fit for purpose. One would hope that the increased usage on the line would force TfL to act sooner rather than later.
@@GodAtum it won't be, it will be at least a decade until people start piling on. Take a look at the satellite view of the area, it's completely desolate!
Me too
@@GodAtum The train wont be full from Barking Riverside for the foreseeable future. There aren't enough people living on the estate just yet.
@@lombardo8 Probably can't afford the London Premium.
I worked 300 yards from here between 1986 and 2003. Commiserations for having to visit Barking, but great vid Geoff.
I was there a year ago on site watching it being built around me! So happy to see it finished and trains running on the viaduct finally!
Glad that you finally managed to get out to film Geoff. I must confess that Barking Riverside has fast become my favourite Overground station due largely to its design elements. Very capacious, light and airy! The station architecture is also reminiscent of those just opened on the Elizabeth line.
I really hope that they extend the line towards Thamesmead in concert with the DLR extension in the future. You can never have enough connectivity!
Barking Riverside has the potential to be a lovely development with a real community feel judging by the plans. And the opportunity for folks to escape the high cost of living in central London is definitely a welcome thing!
The Thames Clipper service adds another alternative mode of transport as you mentioned. Could make for some interesting and varied commutes given the inclement British weather. I look forward to seeing the race between boat and train in your future video.
Thanks again for your efforts Geoff.
Any extension to Thamesmead will probably be on the Overground OR the DLR, but not both. I'm sure I read somewhere that the DLR extension is the preferred option.
@@englishciderlover7347 I had heard that too. But as you know, the powers that be haven’t made a final decision. It’ll come down to funding and build cost. As always.
Fantastic video Geoff, your travels inspire me. On Tuesday I took Bus Route 18 Brighton & Hove, Southern Rail Brighton-Victoria, Victoria Line to St Pancras, Eurostar to Brussels,SNCB Brussels-Welkenraedt,Change trains to Aachen, Bus SB66 and home!! Four Nations, Five trains and Two buses all in one day!! 🇬🇧🇫🇷🇧🇪🇩🇪🇪🇺
This station is surprisingly similar to Orientkaj station here in Copenhagen - in the design and the fact it's a temporary end of line - which marks the current end of Metro line 4 as the part of the city it's meant to service has yet to be built, so at some point the bridge the station sits on will be extended to have up to four more stations (that are planned at the moment) to complete the line.
Riverside isn't really a temporary terminus. There have been proposals to extend GOBLIN to Thamesmead but an extension of the DLR instead seems more likely.
@@cidersocialism6714 they should do both. The Overground to Abbey Wood Via Thamesmead Central. The DLR extension calling at Thamesmead West, Central and East.
@@MylesHSG They really should it would cut journey times from east London and north east London to south east London so much
Another excellent video, Geoff - love all the different shots.
Also impressed that it’s a new station with a train shed!
I think it should stay as Goblin. The Bakerloo didn't get renamed when it got extended - otherwise it would now be the Harrow & Wealdephant & Castle line.
As far as the time allowed in the timetable, it's pretty common to allow a lot of contingency between the last two stops. On my home line, Waterloo to Reading, the timetable allows a generous 9 minutes from Earley to Reading. The train that should have departed Earley at 1707 today actually departed at 1710, and arrived at Reading a minute early, having taken only 5 minutes.
In the other direction, the timetable allows 13 minutes to get from Clapham Junction to Waterloo - but the train that left Reading at 1542 managed it in 11. The train that left Reading at 1612 did it in 8, catching up 5 minutes of its 7 minute delay at Clapham Junction.
Rather than Harrow & Wealdephant & Castle line, how about another contraction to the Hastle Line?
Deliberately adding minutes to journey times to allow for delays is a con. If it takes 5 minutes, it should say 5 minutes and not a minute longer, and if it's delayed, say it's delayed. I feel annoyed when a short journey takes longer but is still recorded as on time. Or when a delayed train leaves a station late but gets to the next station on time - it's like, well OK, can you not just do that all the time and people will get to their destinations quicker? P*sses me off.
@@LyricalWax Exactly my thoughts! Very common issue with a lot of bus routes too!
You obviously did the cycle parking for my own appreciation. Thanks, G.
6:34 it should stay as Goblin. The Bakerloo line "Baker Street to Waterloo" now goes way beyond Baker Street and also past Waterloo, but kept the same name.
So are you telling me the name makes no sense now and should have been named something else
bakerloo always went past waterloo, but only as far as lambeth north
It's certainly a smart-looking station, very modern and airy. I'd love to visit when I'm next in London!
My daily dose of happiness is here!
I love the London transport network despite living a couple of hours away, and I never knew there were such good RUclips videos about it! Thank you for putting me on the tube map.
Loving these new stations going up . Very futuristic, with lots of space and more . Great video.
The turnstiles are so bikes don't get taken onto the pedestrian concourse. I presume there's a cycle entrance on the other end of that room, you enter through that on your bike, then pass through the turnstile on foot.
Great to see Barking Riverside open. I was there as well on Wednesday and got my bag of goodies.
It's great to see the development in the area and to have another station on the network.
You really are the best in your field of informative videos.
I grew up in Barking, now living in Zurich, great to watch this video.
Nice video, I think that the bicycle storage should go to more stations
Love the clear roundel and how it reflects onto the ground!!!!!
What a lovely facade on the station.
Solid 5 star video as always Geoff, it looks really impressive, and I've yet to visit it, hope to do it soon, keep up the great videos 👍
Thanks for another informative video, Geoff!! Will have to come down and see this new station for myself sometime!
What an awesome looking station! Keep up the great content!
Glad to see you seeing the Barking Riverside area!
Absolutely Barking - but very enjoyable - as ever!
There's a small cycle storage space at the new entrance to Hackney Central.
Brilliant video Geoff. Thank you for sharing this that was very interesting and great information to know.
Hello Geoff I love your videos.. Just to inform you and your followers, the district line still opens the doors on both sides at barking when at platforms 2 & 3 when the service terminates at Upminister/ Dagenham East. The train showed in your video was scheduled to finish at barking therefore the doors do not open on platform 2.
Some more stations for me to do when i come back to UK next year! Thanks again Geoff!
This is the kind of day that melts your heart, your face, and your shoes. And Geoff, ever the brave fellow, wears a light gray shirt. My hero.
As usual an excellent video Geoff
Great to see you so fit and well for this momentous (?) extension to the Overground. You were looking distinctly peaky when you did the Q&A session a couple of weeks ago. Cheers
I think it should now be called the Gospel Oak _and_ Barking Line since there's more than one Barking, plus it will make more sense if the proposed extension to Thamesmead goes ahead if TfL ever decides to give Thamesmead railways.
Can only dream of a Thamesmead station 😝😝
Thats the GOABLIN which is harder than GOBRKIN
GOBRLIN NOT GOBRKIN
Great vid as usual Geoff. I can’t wait to visit the station when I return to the UK next week.
Nice to see they are continuing to focus on transit oriented development.
8:10 Wimbledon Station has a bike storage facility although this is inside of the gate-line and behind all of the stores that are on the main passageway
Nice video Geoff, I knew you will never miss out on anything like this
Great video! Looks like a very nice new station - clean and modern and all that, but goodness does it need some art and plants IMO! I will say that the train itself gives such a glorious pop of color in the sea of gray/brown/beige. That shot of it going over that bridge/viaduct was just molto bene! :)
Another great video, Geoff. Looking forward to your visit to Marsh Barton here in Exeter.
Hey Geoff took a ride on the district line today on my way back from work. Can confirm the doors at Barking still open on both sides as there is a lift on platform 1 still in use for now. They still play the lift access announcement to face the front of the train and use the doors on the left 👍
They do still, i was on the district line eastbound yesterday and it did all of that
They don't open the doors both sides on trains terminating at Barking, despite the inconvenience this can cause to the disabled and older people.
@@davespagnol8847 that’s bad! Still do on the district line passing through - no reason why they couldn’t for all trains!
Great video Geoff! I loved it 👍🏻😀
The translucent logo is nice, are there any others like it around TfL?
Its amazing to think Londonist videos are so old but they are still great especially ones with Geoff Marshall included :)
My main concern with these modern stations is the lack of escalators. I’m 70 and stairs are difficult for me. The lifts are not always working at these stations. How someone in a wheelchair would manage without the lift I don’t know. Obviously they wouldn’t be able to manage.
Completely agree - all modern stations should have escalators! Surely it doesn't break the bank and the benefits of it are immeasurable. Lifts are super slow, can quickly get scruffy and dirty if not maintained and cannot cope with large crowds. And don't get me started on when it's broken down!
Stay positive LyricalWax
Agreed, though wheelchair users aren't the issue as they can't use escalators anyway, it's more people who struggle with stairs. It feels like that by adding lifts, transport planners feel they can leave out escalators altogether, when they really speed people through stations.
@@PlanetoftheDeaf I agree with you that wheelchair users can’t use escalators. I think the real issue here is that if they are going to leave out escalators they need to make sure that the lifts are working. I have recently been to stations with no escalators and lifts not working. I struggle with stairs and recently I nearly fell backwards down a flight of them. They seem to have been built steep as though the planners think we are mountain goats.
Looks like they're following the Japanese model of having the station as a hub, then building shopping and housing around it. Maybe TfL should start their own supermarket franchise too?
Japanese model or old railway model? 'Cause this is exactly what happened with a lot of railways back in the day: they built a station and then the area around it was built-up.
This model was originally developed in London with the Metropolitan line in 1863, the whole area is still known as Metroland.
Northern Line expansion, new Overground station, and, of course, the Purple Train. Exiting times.
And the Bank capacity upgrade and the South Kensington Piccadilly Line station upgrade
Thanks for another great video Geoff 👌
Hi Geoff, District Line trains still do open doors on both sides. It's Hammersmith and City Line trains which don't which was the train that was in the camera shot as LU staff need to inspect the train to make sure it's empty.
Thanks Geoff. I travel to Upton Park from Crouch Hill every couple of weeks or more. Fastest way is to Barking then get the District. I am in the habit of sleeping if I'm knackered. Going to have to rethink that now that Barking is no longer the terminus - some kind soul usually wakes me up if 'This train terminates here' doesn't. Looks as if this may well be the fastest way to the River for folks in my bit of London too. Can't be bad.
I think the turnstiles on the cycle parking might be to dissuade people from bringing their bikes through to the rest of the station - I assume that the parking area is accessed through an exterior door?
Okay. That makes sense. I was utterly baffled as to how I would get a bike in there.
If the turnstiles have counters they could also be there to track usage.
Excellent station, excellent video, both with a lot of character!
Love it thanks 4 the informative smile
Brilliant video, Barking Riverside looks like a good station. :)
Thank you. 👍🏻
It's always fun to see my little local railway line get some attention!
Wow Amazing Video Geoff! I actually really didn't know when the Barking Riverside extension was gonna open Lol
Great video. I'm from Barking, The new station looking much nicer and fresher than the old one! :)
As mentioned about the district line at about 0:50, if a Metrolink tram terminates at Victoria, both sides can open!
I love Geoff’s Ensemble in this video. It’s very cute and something that I would wear.
I'm watching this video whilst standing in the same place as you were in this video
Hi Geoff, I just spoke to someone that works at national rail and they just told me that there are now 2589 station in GB on the national rail network, also another great video Geoff!
All the Best,
All the trains (Dominic)
Finally, I missed this version of Geoff!
great stuff, thanks Geoff
Great stuff, Geoff. I had noticed that there was an Overground train (which did not look as though it was in service) stationed on platform 8 a few weeks ago, which set me wondering whether the Overground trains would be re-routed at Barking station. So this video has confirmed that. What will be interesting is seeing how the Overground trains will make the journey between Woodgrange Park and Barking in both directions, now the trains are directed to platforms 7 and 8 at Barking.
When they ran to Barking's platform 1, the trains clearly stuck to tracks that stayed on the north side of the District and Hammersmith & City Lines. Now, they would have to cross all the tracks that lie on the eastern approach to Barking. That will be good to see.
That train that you saw on platform 8 was the training train which was used by the overground instructors to teach and develop the drivers route knowledge so they could sign it off on their route card.
So awesome!!
The Barking to Gospel Oak line..... used to be the Barking to Kentish Town line when i grew up with it at the bottom of my garden. In my fathers childhood it was the East Ham to St Pancras line.... how times change! Interesting to see the old Creekmouth Power Station site now, it's previous claim to fame was that it had 2 Sunday journeys on bus route 62, which was the last to be operated by RT class buses. The last Sunday of their operation to Creekmouth, in March 1979, was the busiest the area had been for decades!.....
The Barking Riverside Station is so cool! 👏🏽
Excellent video as always Geoff! You need to come back over to Ireland to visit our new (ish) station Pelletstown and visit the abandoned ghost station of Kishoge in Dublin!
The station is looking good!
Awesome video Geoff
I have been in London that week - enjoying the hot weather ,-).
If I had known that the station opened I would have definitely gone there. I traveled on the new purple train instead and visited the Northern Line extension to Battersea Power Station
It’s very upsetting that TfL decided to open this amazing brand new station on a day when only essential travel was necessary because I would’ve otherwise had a great chance to finally meet up with you and a lot of other train spotters, but instead I had to go by myself today 😢😢😢
Wimbledon has an indoor bike storage and clapham junction has a huge bike storage
I’m glad to see Barking Riverside station in London Overground in location borough is London Borough of Barking & Dagenham. I’m very excited.
Great idea to open a line there for future development better than an add on rushed later...
Wow such a beautiful station
I was at Barking yesterday, and I *swear* I saw the Eastbound District Line open on both sides!
It really is a simple pleasure to see updated signs and placards posted at the very opening day (well this was taken a few days later Geoff said, but you get my point) that you can actually rely on.
I wish they do the same on our public transport system in Jakarta. It’s getting there, but frankly still a jumbled up mess.
Thanks
Lovely video
Great video Geoff! Another way to get into Central London by train could be going 1 stop down the line to Barking and changing there for a c2c train to Fenchurch Street or catch a District Line or H&C Line train into Central London from Barking instead.
Nice one Geoff. 😊👍